Onkyo TX-NR609, TX-NR509, TX-SR309 Thread - Page 111

Can anyone weigh in on the Apple TV 16 bit or auto audio options?

I would suggest using Auto so that the signal will most likely stay the same as coming in.

Thanks, I was planning on it. I'm just trying to understand why some TVs or AVRs would be incompatible with anything lower than 16-bit, since the Apple TV can't output anything higher anyway.

You won't have to worry about the TV being capable of playing the 16-bit source. Every single TV that is at least Stereo can play 16-bit sound. It may not play it well but it will play it nonetheless. The TV's that may not be able to play it are the old CRT mono audio TV's or maybe some of the very early LCD TV's when the technology was brand new and cost over $5K.
A TV will not be made to only play a lower bit-rate of sound today. Also a TV that can play sound at a higher bit-rate will always be able to produce sound at a lower bit-rate without any issue. This will always be backwards compatible. Just like a car that can drive at 200mph will always be able to drive at 25mph when needed.

The weird part is why there's an option to force 16-bit if it converts everything to 16-bit to begin with, whether it's higher or lower quality. And if something can't playback the automatically set 16-bit, why would it playback a forced 16-bit?

Hello all,

Being new to streaming, and being in my sixties, I'm not sure if this is the right area to be on but here goes. I'm running my 509 with a cd ripper NAS server via my Sky router. The problem is that after playing most of a cd's worth of FLAC the 509 says 'no server' and no more music until I manage to get it to reconnect - which takes a couple of goes. Can anyone point me to where the problem might lie. Changing ethernet cables didn't cure it so I'm still in the dark. I love all this new-fangled stuff and find it frustrating with something like this. Any help appreciated. Thanks.

It sounds like your router is dropping the connection to the Onkyo. Is there any other "traffic" on your network that might be taking priority over the audio stream? For example, if your wife/kids are streaming Netflix at the same time, those streams will use up a lot of the available bandwidth of your network, leaving insufficient bandwidth for your music files. Also, some router have a function called QoS (Quality of Service) which gives certain streams priority over other streams on the network, so it may temporarily shut off the flow to your Onkyo. I am assuming that you are cabled from the router to the Onkyo with ethernet cable and not using wireless to send the audio. Finally, check the settings under Networking in the Onkyo setup menu to make sure it knows how you are sending the stream to it. I am an old fart also and stream all my music to my various receivers(Denons and Onkyo) wirelessly with no problems. Ooops, I lied. My main home theater system is wire via ethernet from the router to my new Denon and it works flawlessly. I have a WD My Book Live NAS(2TB) with over 4,000 songs in mostly flac(some mp3 and some WAV) as well as DVD and Blu-ray rips which I stream to my Oppo Universal player. I hope this helps!
Good luck.

Probably a stupid (and repeated) question, but when listening to my iPod in USB mode how do I change the type of audio? On the remote I can only hit "Repeat" when trying to press the "Music" button.

I have the 509 fwiw.

Thanks a lot guys!

What else is it you're after beyond what is explained on p. 21 in the Owner's manual?

Could it be an IP conflict? Are you using DHCP or static IPs? I had to switch to all static on my home network because when the TV's were using the internet (Netflix, etc) they would conflict with my other devices on the network. Also, be sure to use CAT 5e or CAT 6 cables (shielded when having longer runs), and check to make sure that your modem is DOC SIS 3.0, and not 2.0, as this will make a noticeable difference in bandwidth availability.

Properly configured, your network should be able to handle all devices streaming just fine. I can run both TV's streaming Netflix, and have my computers connected and functioning with no problems on my wired network, and that's with 2 tv's, a BD player, Wii, PS2, printer, 2 laptops, A/V receiver, and an NAS all connected (and with a DOC SIS 2.0 modem that I'm upgrading to 3.0 only because I'm only getting about 10% of the bandwidth that I'm paying Comcast for...).

I want to change the listening Modes and actually click on the "Music" button instead of have it just repeat the song or album. Hope that's a bit more clear.

You have to press the receiver button first. Then you can change listening modes. While in USB mode on remote, the mode buttons control search, repeat and random.

Hello all

Sorry if my problem has been aired before but I couldn't find anything in a search.

I have a 609 with the following equipment all connected to HDMI inputs:

1. Sky satellite receiver
2. Sony BDP-S380 Blu-Ray player (also used for playing CDs, SACDs and DVDs)
3. Acer Notebook computer (used to stream audio with Foobar2000)

HDMI output is connected to a Sony 46EX TV (used for video only - all audio played from speakers driven by the 609).

Everything works fine but if I switch off the TV screen while listening to audio from any of the sources, there is an interruption of several seconds after switching off. Similarly, if I switch on the TV when listening to audio, there is again an interruption to the audio - this time for a rather longer period.

It seems that some signal must be returned from the TV over the HDMI cable to the 609. All of the 609 inputs are set to 'Direct'. During the short period when there is no sound, the display changes to 'dialog-norm - 3dB'.

Does anybody know how to overcome this?

Thanks for any help.

609 still going strong. I listen to Pandora for at least 2-3 hours every morning while I drink my coffee...

Getting a bit excited now. I'm ordering the BIC America DV64 towers and DV-62CLRS center channels today to pair up with my 609. Now I get to see what it can really do...

I wonder if I should sell the Onkyo mains and center separately on eBay, or should I wait till I switch out all the satellites and sell it as a full 7 speaker system?

Also, I wonder if a dual sub setup with the BIC F12 and the onkyo would sound good, or should I just replace the Onkyo sub with the BIC and sell it too..?

Hello, I'm new to this forum.
This is a big thread, I tried to search but didn't get what I'm looking at.

My TX-NR509 starts muted and change the volume on AVR remote controller. Nothing happens if I use my tv's remote.
Even if I try to mute and unmute with my TV remote nothing happens.

Is that a bug or a setting ?


TIA
Daniel

Do you have HDMI Control (RIHD) set to ON on the 509 as well as the HDMI-CEC feature on your TV set to ON?

Drinking coffee for 3 hours?!?!

lol, well more like 2 20oz cups within that time period.

I was sure that I was doing something wrong! Is it just me, or do other people find this to be a major usability issue? Really makes the Remote app useless.

Is this still the case with the latest Firmware and Apps?

Got myself the 609 a couple of weeks ago and so far I'm loving it.

A quick question though;

I used the simple Audyssey 2eq setup and it set my front speakers to 40Hz even though they are full range speakers ie tall floor standing with two midwoofer 200mm and a tweeter in D'Appolito configuration.

I'm only using front, centre and a sub at this stage.

Should I set the speakers to full range or has Audyssey decided that it's settings are better or should I just go with what to my ears sounds better.

Thank You.

Edit: All good - just read the Audyssey 101 FAQ - thank you jdsmoothie - everything is how it should be.
Edited by sketchdude - 8/10/12 at 12:13am

Yeah, I have the BIC Venturi DV64 towers and I ran the Audessey detailed setup and it x'd them over at 40hz along with the BIC 62CLRS center channel. You want to leave some of the low end work for your sub, not just the .1 channel.

Crossing them over at the lowest possible setting before Full Range is Audessey's way of saying it recognizes you have some speakers with good range.

Thanks mate - yeah, I will leave them as they are - just watching Iron Man 2 and it sounds sweet!!

It's an awsome amp though I had to pay $610.00 AUD for it - spewed when I saw it for around $350.00 in the US - we get shafted here in oz.

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but I have scoured all of teh interwebs and can't seem to find an answer.

I have the 609 hooked up for my basement theatre system (wired network), with the following components.
1. Cable /sat is HDTV
2. BD / DVD is PS3
3. VCR / DVR is Apple TV
4. Net is my home library (ishare)

Everything is connected via HDMI cables.

My question is this: how can I set this up (or change) to allow for music playback on apple tv or net while I am viewing a different source (tv or PS3)?

I know very little about this stuff, so please be kind. Thanks!

Quick question, I just got netflix. have a new 70LE847U sharp TV connected via the ARC HDMI connector to the 609. with RIHD and ARC off on the 609, netflix on the display (streaming through a hardwired ethernet connection) only played audio through the TV speakers.

I enabled RIHD and set ARC to auto on the 609, and turned on the ARC feature on the sharp (part of aquos link) and viola, audio is now back through the 609.

the annoying thing is i now get the sharp OSD and the 609 OSD, whenever I'm changing volume on the TV. before the change above, i only got the onkyo OSD for volume changes.

anyone deal with this? is the only way to avoid 2 OSD's is run an optical from the TV to the 609 for netfilx audio?
Best,
jeff

^^
AFAIK, yes, although doing so will also resolve the issue of the AVR changing to the TV input everytime the TV and AVR are turned on.

Hi Jdsmoothie,
I did a couple of power down/power ups of all the equipment (using my remotes all on/all off macros). I didn't notice any anomalous input switching, so with this display and AVR I think i'm okay. it wouldn't be such a big deal, but 2 volume OSD's on every input, really? ;-)

I ordered a long enough optical cable so I can test using that option.
Best,
jeff

It's a catch-22 with the ARC feature ... in some cases the TV provides it's own volume bar which can be turned off by setting the TV's HDMI-CEC feature to OFF, but then doing so disables the ARC feature. This is why using an optical cable is often the best solution, which allows you to then turn the TV's HDMI-CEC feature to OFF. Also note that many TV's are limited to PCM 2.0 using the HDMI(ARC) feature, but will generally always pass either PCM 2.0 or DD 5.1 over the optical audio output (eg. w/DD 5.1 Netflix movies).

I can't get any sound from my subwoofer.

I've been using the Onkyo TX-NR609 for about a year now with no problems. I recently purchased my first subwoofer, the BIC America F12.

In addition to the BIC F12, I have a pair of JBL L810's for front left/right and the LC2 for a center channel.


Current receiver settings (Speaker Setup > Speaker Configuration)

Subwoofer: Yes
Front: 100Hz
Center: 100Hz
Surround: None
Front High: None
Surround Back: None
Surround Back Ch: -
LPF of LFE: 100Hz
Double Bass: -


Current subwoofer settings (Back Panel)

Power: Auto (green light is on)
Phase: 0 degrees
Volume: 4
Crossover Frequency: 100Hz
Connected to receiver via digital coaxial cable (orange)
Receiver Type: 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 Receiver

Help me please! I got the subwoofer in the mail the day before my two week vacation and have been looking forward to setting it up... this is killing me, lol.

WIth the sub plugged in an powered ON .. disconnect the sub cable from the 609 and rub your finger over it. Do you hear static? If no, either the sub or the cable itself is defective ... replace if necessary. If yes, then reconnect to the AVR and run Audyssey. Do you hear the test tones from the sub?

Do I need a different type of connection to my Apple TV in addition to my HDMI? I don't need to view the apple TV because I can control my music on my iPad.