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post #3421 of 3823
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

I really like my new Polk Audio (Series II) CS2. Newegg had them cheap. There is also a newly released replacement model.

I could be wrong, but I always thought Audyssey helpped with the matching.

Thanks for the quick response! I think Audyssey will help resolve discrepancies between speakers featuring dissimilar output levels and speaker configuration, but the main concern is timbre. I've been doing a little more reading on this and now think I need to find a center speaker that will match, tonality-wise, my front L and R speakers. Am going to pay a visit to my local B&W dealer to see what they think. If price is the issue, I may look for something used.
post #3422 of 3823
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Originally Posted by jonny-zed View Post


Thanks for the quick response! I think Audyssey will help resolve discrepancies between speakers featuring dissimilar output levels and speaker configuration, but the main concern is timbre. I've been doing a little more reading on this and now think I need to find a center speaker that will match, tonality-wise, my front L and R speakers. Am going to pay a visit to my local B&W dealer to see what they think. If price is the issue, I may look for something used.

Ya, that's why I just went ahead and bought the whole matched set in same series. I've never been able to afford to do that before (it was always a pair at a time).

 

I've heard B&W is good.

 

I really "use" my speakers (the room is big). Due to driver cone failures over the years ( all my speakers were purchased new) I would never concider buying used speakers.

post #3423 of 3823
Hi,

I placed my Onkyo 509 in a closed cabinet. I would like to control the receiver while the doors are closed, so I bought an IR extender: the Marmitek Inivisible Control 6: http://www.marmitek.com/en/product-details/audio-video-at-home/operate-anywhere/operating-outside-the-infrared-range/invisible-control-6.php

Unfortunately, this set-up didn't work... Only after pressing a button like 10 times, the command got to the receiver. Volume control etc. worked excellent all the time btw. I was sure that the IR emitter was exactly on the "led-receiver" in the front panel of the Onkyo. In the end, I returned the product to the shop.

Therefore my question: does anyone here has experience with IR extenders (in combination with the Onkyo 509)?

And a second question: at the back, there is also an IR input port. Could I use this port in a set-up as well to control the Onkyo? (the manual doesn't go deep into this)

All working options are okay for me smile.gif
Thanks in advance!
post #3424 of 3823
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Originally Posted by SgtPepper00 View Post

Hi,
I placed my Onkyo 509 in a closed cabinet. I would like to control the receiver while the doors are closed, so I bought an IR extender: the Marmitek Inivisible Control 6: http://www.marmitek.com/en/product-details/audio-video-at-home/operate-anywhere/operating-outside-the-infrared-range/invisible-control-6.php
Unfortunately, this set-up didn't work... Only after pressing a button like 10 times, the command got to the receiver. Volume control etc. worked excellent all the time btw. I was sure that the IR emitter was exactly on the "led-receiver" in the front panel of the Onkyo. In the end, I returned the product to the shop.
Therefore my question: does anyone here has experience with IR extenders (in combination with the Onkyo 509)?
And a second question: at the back, there is also an IR input port. Could I use this port in a set-up as well to control the Onkyo? (the manual doesn't go deep into this)
All working options are okay for me smile.gif
Thanks in advance!

If you have a plasma TV, that can sometimes cause problems, but there are work-arounds (I have mostly plasmas here).

 

Yes, that is exactly what that port is for. I'm sure Onkyo knows what is compatible. Problem is, if other devices are in the cabinet, you end up needing the IR-E anyway. I always heard Red-Eye was good.

 

I recommend a vented fan on the 509/cabinet.

post #3425 of 3823
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

If you have a plasma TV, that can sometimes cause problems, but there are work-arounds (I have mostly plasmas here).

Yes, that is exactly what that port is for. I'm sure Onkyo knows what is compatible. Problem is, if other devices are in the cabinet, you end up needing the IR-E anyway. I always heard Red-Eye was good.

I recommend a vented fan on the 509/cabinet.

Thanks for the response!

I contacted Onkyo, but no word from them so far. I'll pass by a few shops next week which sell Red-Eye devices.

On another forum, someone suggested a Keene ir distribution amp http://www.keene.co.uk/electronic/keene-electronics/keene-ir-distribution-amp-kit-inc-fascia-receiver/irbkitf.html. Anyone here got some experience with these in combination with an Onkyo receiver?
post #3426 of 3823
Looking to replace my Onkyo TX-SR805 and Amazon has the TX-NR509 on sale for 173.48. I was wondering if this was a good receiver and if it was worth the price.
post #3427 of 3823
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Originally Posted by T/O View Post

Looking to replace my Onkyo TX-SR805 and Amazon has the TX-NR509 on sale for 173.48. I was wondering if this was a good receiver and if it was worth the price.

I paid $229.99 eleven months ago. I've been pleased with it, although I have issues with audio popping during pause/unpause. But I think I have a unique situation, and the receiver may not even be the cause.
post #3428 of 3823
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Originally Posted by T/O View Post

Looking to replace my Onkyo TX-SR805 and Amazon has the TX-NR509 on sale for 173.48. I was wondering if this was a good receiver and if it was worth the price.
The 509 is a goo receiver and that is a really good price for it. However, it will be a serious downgrade from your current receiver in quality and features.
post #3429 of 3823
I only have 5.1 set up in my apt. and it's mostly used just for watching movies via my PS3. I also can't watch any 3D movies with the old Onkyo. Any music that I currently listen to I stream via my Airport express w/ iTunes from mac to receiver.
post #3430 of 3823
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Originally Posted by T/O View Post

Looking to replace my Onkyo TX-SR805 and Amazon has the TX-NR509 on sale for 173.48. I was wondering if this was a good receiver and if it was worth the price.

That IS a crazy price.

 

They must have ended up with some spares. It's only 5.1 and a little light on the power if your speakers or room is big. Compare to new models 515, 616.

post #3431 of 3823
Living room is about 22x15 and I only have 5.1 set up
post #3432 of 3823
Well, I went and bit the bullet. I'll either be sending it back or selling my SR809. We shall see.
post #3433 of 3823
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Originally Posted by T/O View Post

Living room is about 22x15 and I only have 5.1 set up

I have the 509 and I think my den is 23x15. We use it for movies, television and music and have been very happy with it thus far. It might be slightly underpowered at 80W per but it's a nice receiver and that is a really good price. The Zone 2 feature is nice (I power Zone 2 with an Audiosource AMP 100) for playing music out on my deck during the summer and/or in my dining room when guests join us for dinner while the kids can simultaneously watch a movie or sports in 5.1 in the den. And I like the integrated Apple (iPod, iPhone, etc.) support for playing music and controlling it via my TV. HDMI switching between my Blu-ray player and HD STB works great. And the Audyssey II did a really nice job of automatically calibrating my speakers (5.1) in about 10 minutes. Mine is not connected to my home network or the Internet so I can't use the Onkyo iPhone remote app or Pandora, etc. but those are nice features too. It's a really nice 5.1 receiver IMHO. Go for it. Good luck!
post #3434 of 3823
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Originally Posted by T/O View Post

Well, I went and bit the bullet. I'll either be sending it back or selling my SR809. We shall see.

 

 

Did the 805 have HDMI?

post #3435 of 3823
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Originally Posted by T/O View Post

Living room is about 22x15 and I only have 5.1 set up

If you are keeping your speakers, you would know if you needed more power.

post #3436 of 3823
Yes, the 805 has HDMI but lacks the 3D pass thru capability.
post #3437 of 3823
I have a question that I hope will be simple to answer. I have the 609 and somewhere along the way I have screwed up a setting and all I get is Pro-Logic II no matter what source I am playing. When I first hooked it up, everything played fine. Even Blue-Ray movies play in PLII, and that wasn't the case at one point. I've tried going through the manual and I still can't figure out how to get out of the listening mode settings. My old Onkyo would allow me to just turn off those settings, but for the life of me I can't figure this one out. Any suggestions?

Thanks
post #3438 of 3823
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Originally Posted by Bengal1 View Post

I have a question that I hope will be simple to answer. I have the 609 and somewhere along the way I have screwed up a setting and all I get is Pro-Logic II no matter what source I am playing. When I first hooked it up, everything played fine. Even Blue-Ray movies play in PLII, and that wasn't the case at one point. I've tried going through the manual and I still can't figure out how to get out of the listening mode settings. My old Onkyo would allow me to just turn off those settings, but for the life of me I can't figure this one out. Any suggestions?
Thanks

I would check the Listening Mode Presets, although it seems unlikely that all sources would be messed up...see page 55 of the manual.

http://63.148.251.135/redirect_service.cfm?type=own_manuals&file=SN29400637_TX-NR609_En_web.pdf
post #3439 of 3823
Actually glad this has subject been brought up. FWIW, I have a TX-NR509.

For TV sources (via my FIOS STB), the receiever seems to naturally adjust based on the source format (PL II, Dolby Digital, etc.) and that's what's displayed

For blu-ray, however, it consistently displays as Multichannel. I'm getting full 5.1, just not sure if it's the highest possible quality (Dolby Digital, DTS, etc.) given my components and speaker setup. Everything is connected via HDMI. I think the settings on my blu-ray player are correct, although I'll re-check those later when I'm at home.

Just wanted to see if "multich" (which is what I believe the display indicates) is not inconsistent with a DD or DTS source but simply not displaying it as such. The 509 manual is a little confusing in this regard.
post #3440 of 3823
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Originally Posted by am_dew View Post

I would check the Listening Mode Presets, although it seems unlikely that all sources would be messed up...see page 55 of the manual.
http://63.148.251.135/redirect_service.cfm?type=own_manuals&file=SN29400637_TX-NR609_En_web.pdf


Thanks for the quick response. I'm going to try that when I get home. Is there not a way to "turn off" the listening mode presets and just let the receiver produce the signal it's getting? I can't find anything in the manual that says so.
post #3441 of 3823
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Originally Posted by Bengal1 View Post

Thanks for the quick response. I'm going to try that when I get home. Is there not a way to "turn off" the listening mode presets and just let the receiver produce the signal it's getting? I can't find anything in the manual that says so.
What you are looking for will be one of the options available in that menu.
I cannot for the life of me remember the name of that setting, could be straight through. Just remember if you want to benefit from Audyssey, do not use Direct as the setting. Direct ignores Audyssey.
post #3442 of 3823
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post

What you are looking for will be one of the options available in that menu.
I cannot for the life of me remember the name of that setting, could be straight through. Just remember if you want to benefit from Audyssey, do not use Direct as the setting. Direct ignores Audyssey.

Or also look for "Straight Decode" or "Auto".
post #3443 of 3823
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Originally Posted by Bengal1 View Post

I have a question that I hope will be simple to answer. I have the 609 and somewhere along the way I have screwed up a setting and all I get is Pro-Logic II no matter what source I am playing. When I first hooked it up, everything played fine. Even Blue-Ray movies play in PLII, and that wasn't the case at one point. I've tried going through the manual and I still can't figure out how to get out of the listening mode settings. My old Onkyo would allow me to just turn off those settings, but for the life of me I can't figure this one out. Any suggestions?
Thanks

Ya, what everyone else said ... I just set them so Dolby Digital = Dolby Digital ... like that. There is also "Last Used" which brings up what I wanted to mention. No matter what Listening Mode is auto-selected, you can always press the Movie and Music buttons to cycle through all available modes. If those don't work, you have some other problem.

 

Check your sources. HDMI is good but make sure they are still sending Digital bitstream signals. 

post #3444 of 3823
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Originally Posted by am_dew View Post

Or also look for "Straight Decode" or "Auto".
After looking through the the back pages of the forums, some google and thread searches, I find that you sir have found the correct name for the input. On the 609 you want it set to Straight Decode. This will mean audio played from said source will decode as per it's format. DVD's will be DTS or Dolby. Blu-Rays will be DTS-HD MA or DolbyTrue HD (just a minor word or warning, older blu-ray discs play only Dolby by Default and you have to select the HD/Uncompressed source manually).

My setting are as follows, if I remember correctly

Mono: 5-channel mono
Stereo: 5 Channel Stereo
Dolby Digital: Straight Decode
DTS: Straight Decode
And so on, and so on.

I have it set this way for all my inputs except for my Wii which is only stereo, and so I have it set to 5 channel stereo for all.
Hope this helps ya.
post #3445 of 3823
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post

After looking through the the back pages of the forums, some google and thread searches, I find that you sir have found the correct name for the input. On the 609 you want it set to Straight Decode. This will mean audio played from said source will decode as per it's format. DVD's will be DTS or Dolby. Blu-Rays will be DTS-HD MA or DolbyTrue HD (just a minor word or warning, older blu-ray discs play only Dolby by Default and you have to select the HD/Uncompressed source manually).
My setting are as follows, if I remember correctly
Mono: 5-channel mono
Stereo: 5 Channel Stereo
Dolby Digital: Straight Decode
DTS: Straight Decode
And so on, and so on.
I have it set this way for all my inputs except for my Wii which is only stereo, and so I have it set to 5 channel stereo for all.
Hope this helps ya.

Thanks to everyone for the help. I can't wait to get home and fix this. I'm going to have re-watch The Dark Knight again after getting this fixed, because what I listened to last night wasn't good.
post #3446 of 3823
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Originally Posted by jonny-zed View Post

Actually glad this has subject been brought up. FWIW, I have a TX-NR509.
For TV sources (via my FIOS STB), the receiever seems to naturally adjust based on the source format (PL II, Dolby Digital, etc.) and that's what's displayed
For blu-ray, however, it consistently displays as Multichannel. I'm getting full 5.1, just not sure if it's the highest possible quality (Dolby Digital, DTS, etc.) given my components and speaker setup. Everything is connected via HDMI. I think the settings on my blu-ray player are correct, although I'll re-check those later when I'm at home.
Just wanted to see if "multich" (which is what I believe the display indicates) is not inconsistent with a DD or DTS source but simply not displaying it as such. The 509 manual is a little confusing in this regard.
Also, check your BD player settings. For my Sony's, there is a BD Mix setting that need to be ON when watching PIP-style commentary, but then degrades the audio since the player has to mix the main and commentary. You need to turn it OFF to pass through pure DTS-MA and similar. Other brands of players may use different names.
post #3447 of 3823
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Originally Posted by Bengal1 View Post

Thanks to everyone for the help. I can't wait to get home and fix this. I'm going to have re-watch The Dark Knight again after getting this fixed, because what I listened to last night wasn't good.

Yes, you will defintely want to watch it again when you get it fixed -- as I recall, the soundtrack in The Dark Knight is excellent.
post #3448 of 3823
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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

Also, check your BD player settings. For my Sony's, there is a BD Mix setting that need to be ON when watching PIP-style commentary, but then degrades the audio since the player has to mix the main and commentary. You need to turn it OFF to pass through pure DTS-MA and similar. Other brands of players may use different names.

I too have a Sony (BDP-S570) so was able to find that setting fairly easily. At first it wasn't clear to me that it was working, but after re-loading the BR disc (Scott Pilgrim vs. the World), the displayed listening mode changed from MULTICH to DTS-HD MSTR so apparently it worked and the difference in sound quality was enormous. So thanks! Who woulda thunk that such an obscure setting would do the trick.
post #3449 of 3823
I've had the NX509 for about a year now and love it. I have a question regarding speaker configuration I am hoping somebody on here can help me with. Up until now, I have had two front speakers, two surround speakers and 1 SW, and have only used the receiver for streaming Pandora. Over the holidays I got myself a newer tv finally, as well as a new center speaker. The TV and the center speaker are in an entertainment center cabinet. So my question is, is there an easy way to set it up so that when I am listening in Music Listening Mode to have the center speaker disabled (because it is behind the cabinet doors), and when I am listening in Movie Listening Mode to have it enabled (because the cabinet at that time is open to watch the tv). From what I've seen so far in playing with the settings, the speaker configuration is a global setting, so setting center speaker to 'none' disables it across the board. The closest I have gotten to my desired result is to have music listening mode be in 2.1 and the movie listening mode be in 5.1. Please advise. Thanks!
post #3450 of 3823
I have an ONKYO TX NR414 and am currently using the through function as well and have a high frequency pitch during stand by. How did you fix this buz sound? It's not a ground loop issue as there is no ground wire.
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