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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

What happens if you disable upscaling and put it in pass-thru mode?

when I disable upscaling I get the sparkles on PS3/XBOX whenever they are in 1080p, anything lower I get no issues, however on any of my other HDMI cables I'll get a bad picture regardless of resolution
post #3602 of 3823
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Originally Posted by icespide View Post

when I disable upscaling I get the sparkles on PS3/XBOX whenever they are in 1080p, anything lower I get no issues, however on any of my other HDMI cables I'll get a bad picture regardless of resolution

Hi icespide, how did you disable upscaling?

Maybe try turning off "Deep Color" on the PS3 found under Display Settings. And try turning off "Display Discovery" on the Xbox 360 found under Display.
post #3603 of 3823
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi icespide, how did you disable upscaling?

Maybe try turning off "Deep Color" on the PS3 found under Display Settings. And try turning off "Display Discovery" on the Xbox 360 found under Display.

Hey JChin, thanks for trying to help.

Deep color is definitely off on the PS3 (had issues with that a long time ago). Turning off Display Discovery does not fix it either.

I disable upscaling by changing the picture mode to "direct".

the only difference I can make from PS3/360 is that they are outputting RGB while all of my other inputs are outputting YCbCr. is 1080p RGB more bandwidth heavy than YCbCr? It's looking more like its a problem with the receiver, though it bothers me that this one particular cable has less issues than others.
post #3604 of 3823
I originally posed this question over 2 weeks ago...No reply.
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I have the 609 with a Wifi Dongle connected.

My problem is this:

I changed internet providers and need to erase the old info and enter the new info and password, but it has been very tricky.

The manual does not help at all.

Please help!
Thanx.

I need to know how to wipe the old info off of the Wifi dongle and enter the new code...anyone? anyone?? ANYONE???????rolleyes.gif
post #3605 of 3823
I just got verizon fios with their cisco dvr. Can't recall the model #. I've got it hooked up to my onkyo tx-nr609 via hdmi. Before I had fios i had cox with their dvr. I set the video resolution on the dvr to output 1080i.
Switches channels faster. I set the onkyo to upconvert to 1080p. Now the new verizon cisco dvr has a 1080p output setting. So my question is should i let the verizon dvr output 1080p and set the receiver to pass
it through like I do on my sony bdp-s590?
post #3606 of 3823
welp just dropped my nr609 at the repair shop today to be fixed under warranty. they said it'd be 7-10 days before they even evaluated it.

I've given up on onkyo and bought a yamaha RX-V673 to replace it. once my onkyo is fixed i'll be selling it
post #3607 of 3823
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Originally Posted by icespide View Post

welp just dropped my nr609 at the repair shop today to be fixed under warranty. they said it'd be 7-10 days before they even evaluated it.

I've given up on onkyo and bought a yamaha RX-V673 to replace it. once my onkyo is fixed i'll be selling it

How do you like the Yamaha compared to the 609?
post #3608 of 3823
It arrives tomorrow. I'm looking forward to setting it up
post #3609 of 3823
Shouldn't you go to the yamaha board?
post #3610 of 3823
Trying to figure out why Multichannel is not seen in my listening mode options.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vhm2p3tqdtt3czr/Video%20Apr%2017%2C%2010%2022%2040%20PM.mov
post #3611 of 3823
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Originally Posted by jeff.lebowski View Post

Trying to figure out why Multichannel is not seen in my listening mode options.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vhm2p3tqdtt3czr/Video%20Apr%2017%2C%2010%2022%2040%20PM.mov
Provided your sources are multi-channel, when you set your amplifier to 'Direct', that is what you will hear...
post #3612 of 3823
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

Provided your sources are multi-channel, when you set your amplifier to 'Direct', that is what you will hear...

Correct. The manual also states there is a listening mode called "Multichannel". I don't have that option. "Multichannel" (not just another name for 5.1 sound) is a mode for PCM content. Check out page 33 in the manual.
post #3613 of 3823
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Originally Posted by jeff.lebowski View Post

Correct. The manual also states there is a listening mode called "Multichannel". I don't have that option. "Multichannel" (not just another name for 5.1 sound) is a mode for PCM content. Check out page 33 in the manual.
That mode only appears when the amplifier is presented with multi-channel PCM sources...
post #3614 of 3823
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

That mode only appears when the amplifier is presented with multi-channel PCM sources...

Ah. The receiver is displaying 2.0 PCM from the source file (which is AC3 5.1), when the playback device is set to LPCM 5.1. Either he playback device is misrepresenting the audio, or the receiver is at fault. Maybe I need to connect a DVD player to the receiver to check for PCM multichannel source audio.

Playback: Pivos AIOS

Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x720 23.98fps Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch [Audio]
post #3615 of 3823
To confirm... You will need to send a multi-channel PCM source to the Onkyo before you will see the word 'Multich' appear on the front display. Meaning, if you select any of the other listening modes you can easily find your way back to the 'Multich' mode...
post #3616 of 3823
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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital View Post

To confirm... You will need to send a multi-channel PCM source to the Onkyo before you will see the word 'Multich' appear on the front display. Meaning, if you select any of the other listening modes you can easily find your way back to the 'Multich' mode...

AC3 5.1, DD 5.1, DTS 5.1 are not PCM, correct?

I wonder if my AIOS is supposed to be able fake a PCM signal by choosing the HDMI output as LPCM 5.1? So far, the answer is no. Maybe something to ask Pivos.
post #3617 of 3823
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Originally Posted by jeff.lebowski View Post

AC3 5.1, DD 5.1, DTS 5.1 are not PCM, correct?
All of those codecs are essentially zip files. The original PCM soundtrack, which is quite large, is compressed by the encoder to save space on the disc. The decoder decompresses the track back into PCM for processing by the sound system. PCM is the digital audio format that nearly all home entertainment equipment is designed to process. There's no faking it. Your playback equipment will either send an encoded (zipped) format such as DD 5.1, which the receiver will need to decode, or it will do the decoding itself and send the resulting PCM.

When using HDMI, unexpected stereo transmission is usually caused by an HDMI handshake with a TV, which is a 2 channel device. So, if you have set your player to output multichannel PCM and you are getting stereo instead, look for a receiver setting that disables the HDMI audio connection to the TV. As a test, you can simply disconnect the HDMI cable to the TV and see whether you start getting multichannel sound.
Edited by BIslander - 4/18/13 at 12:51pm
post #3618 of 3823
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Originally Posted by jeff.lebowski View Post

AC3 5.1, DD 5.1, DTS 5.1 are not PCM, correct?
Correct... They are 'compressed' digital audio formats. Which are passed to your amplifier as a bit-stream (ie: ones and zeros), which are in-turn decoded by your amplifiers internal (Dolby Digital or DTS) audio decoders.

By comparison, PCM (Pulse Code Modulation) is an 'uncompressed' audio format. And as such has a much larger data band-width...
post #3619 of 3823
On Friday, I was describing my issue to a classmate. He seems to think that the Pivos device shuts off the audio signal completely during pause/unpause, and that's why I have the pop, and subsequently, a longer wait to hear actual audio after unpause. The receiver is getting "new" data from a playback device. This would not be the case with a PC; it's always sending an audio signal, even if that signal is empty.

Is this hogwash?

*Cross posting in the Pivos thread
post #3620 of 3823
I use a mac mini running both win 7 and os x connected to my 609 and when I pause, it stops sending audio after a few seconds. when I unpause, I have to wait about 3 seconds before the audio resumes.. I never figured out a way to change that.. maybe someone else knows? perhaps it could be an xbmc or windows power saving setting? or a setting in the intel video driver since I'm using hdmi
post #3621 of 3823
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Originally Posted by uncola View Post

I use a mac mini running both win 7 and os x connected to my 609 and when I pause, it stops sending audio after a few seconds. when I unpause, I have to wait about 3 seconds before the audio resumes.
Have you been able to determine whether any particular audio format connects slower than another?
post #3622 of 3823
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Originally Posted by uncola View Post

I use a mac mini running both win 7 and os x connected to my 609 and when I pause, it stops sending audio after a few seconds. when I unpause, I have to wait about 3 seconds before the audio resumes.. I never figured out a way to change that.. maybe someone else knows? perhaps it could be an xbmc or windows power saving setting? or a setting in the intel video driver since I'm using hdmi
I find this only happens when I'm using bitstream to the 609. It does not do this when I'm using the HTPC to decode audio.
post #3623 of 3823
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Originally Posted by uncola View Post

I use a mac mini running both win 7 and os x connected to my 609 and when I pause, it stops sending audio after a few seconds. when I unpause, I have to wait about 3 seconds before the audio resumes.. I never figured out a way to change that.. maybe someone else knows? perhaps it could be an xbmc or windows power saving setting? or a setting in the intel video driver since I'm using hdmi

My HTPC only takes a second or so to resume audio (if even that). And yes, my Onkyo 607 has to quickly re-detect the audio (you can see it happen on display).

 

Not sure about a mac-mini, but on my Lenovo h430 (Intel 2000 / Realtek) ... when using HDMI, it appears to use the RealTek for audio. Whereas on my other AMD based HTPC, the dedicated Radeon card handles both audio and video through the HDMI port (even though it has a dedicated audio card).

 

Edit: In Win7, do you have the Sound device defaulted to HDMI?


Edited by Tesla1856 - 5/2/13 at 2:27pm
post #3624 of 3823
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post


I find this only happens when I'm using bitstream to the 609. It does not do this when I'm using the HTPC to decode audio.

I guess, but who does that? Ever since my first HTPC many years ago ... I have allways used either SPDIF or HDMI for sound. That's the only way to get Bitstream to the amp for decoding and proper discrete channel playback.

 

If you decode at PC, you are likely only going to get stereo or some inferior mixed-down Pro-Logic to the amp.


Edited by Tesla1856 - 5/2/13 at 3:03pm
post #3625 of 3823
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

I guess, but who does that? Ever since my first HTPC many years ago ... I have allways used either SPDIF of HDMI for sound. That's the only way to get Bitstream to the amp for decoding and proper discrete channel playback.

If you decode at PC, you are likely only going to get stereo or some inferior mixed-down Pro-Logic to the amp.
Agreed. The only sources from my HTPC that decode onboard are things like webapps (Youtube, Pandora) or iTunes or other locally played music files, or Netflix if it's run through the browser (I guess when I run Netflix through 7MC, also, not sure. Don't usually use Netflix on that HTPC, I'd have to check). Everything else is run through WMP, and my system is set up to bitstream the audio.

If my system has been "quiet" for a while, it'll take a half second to restart audio, but this is much less inconveniencing/ less noticeable than the receiver picking up the bitstream. I likewise notice that my powered subwoofer will shutdown if it hasn't been used in a while.
post #3626 of 3823
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Originally Posted by am_dew View Post

Has anyone had to reset their 609 because the HDMI out stopped working? I had to do just that last night in order to get the HDMI out working again. I could hear audio through my 5.1 speaker system attached to the 609 but no video or audio was making it to my Vizio LCD. I tried everything to troubleshoot, but it came down to the fact that the 609 was not outputting anything through the HDMI out. Of course, I lost all my custom settings and Audyssey calibration due to the reset. I sure hope this is not the start of more problems.

I just did mine and it worked great. I then went and did the latest firmware update and it's back to it's stellar performance
post #3627 of 3823
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Originally Posted by ftboomer View Post

I just did mine and it worked great. I then went and did the latest firmware update and it's back to it's stellar performance

Yea, it worked for me as well, but it was a mild pain to go back and re-calibrate and restore other settings to what I had originally. Things have been OK since then...knock on wood.
post #3628 of 3823
Re Onkyo 609, trying to stream media from my laptop to receiver then out to projector. I have the VGA cord but for sound I connect a cable to the headphone jack on my laptop but where does the other end plug into the receiver to have full sound? The cord is not the typical RCA or component but rather the same setting as earphones.

Any help much appreciated.

It's Penguins time!
post #3629 of 3823
well i take it your laptop has no hdmi...
you will need a headphone to rca cable
3-5 online or 10 at a radio shack
any brand is fine

or you could invest in an audio card for your laptop
best move is to get a laptop with hdm and then you have an htpc
post #3630 of 3823
I recently bought one of those converter type devices to stream media from my Samsung Galaxy 3 phone to a display device. It works fine when I connect it directly to a TV but when I connect it to my 609, nothng happens at all.

Anyone aware of setting or hanshake issueCREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 90s?
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