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post #1891 of 5060
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Originally Posted by Sooner97 View Post

I've posted a video on youtube about the dimming issues I'm having with my tv. It was happening all the time but today it was only happening on screens with mostly white colors. Anyone else having this issue?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hOfpeihE2Q

your camera is adjusting as well, because your wall in the back is changing too.. can you reshoot and keep the camera at constant Fstop.
post #1892 of 5060
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Originally Posted by arielgo View Post

Hey fellow PNxxd8000 owners. I have searched this forum and other places but can not seem to find the answer to this question. I own the PN64D8000 and I would like to find a way to extend the amount of time that the remote stays lit. When using the remote it stays lit for about 3 seconds and I have to end up pressing another button to turn on the light again.

Any help would be appreciated.

Hold the light button down, it stays lit.
post #1893 of 5060
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Because a picture of the PQ demonstrates the quality of the picture rather than the quality of the PQ?
Roy

Another limiting factor is your computer monitor. Between the limits of the camera's sensor, and the limits of the monitor on the display end, a picture of side-by-side plasmas is only going to show really major differences between the panels.

The Mark One Eyeball: accept no substitutes.
post #1894 of 5060
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

Hold the light button down, it stays lit.

Thanks for the suggestion. The only problem with this solution is now I have to use two hands to manage the remote.
post #1895 of 5060
Okay ... with all this tech that this TV has (PN64D8000) and with my Apple products, ... ipad 2 / iPhone4
Is there any way to add AirPlay to the TV o that I can easily show pictures and other media on the TV wirelessly?
post #1896 of 5060
[quote=iButterfingers;20528777]Okay ... with all this tech that this TV has (PN64D8000) and with my Apple products, ... ipad 2 / iPhone4 Is there any way to add AirPlay to the TV o that I can easily show pictures and other media on the TV wirelessly?[/QUO笴뻥∄䅉 I suggest you go experiment with an app called imediashare. free.
post #1897 of 5060
Well just picked up a PN59D8000 last sunday (5/29). Finally got enough time and another person to set it up on friday (6/3). Put it on the stand and wow that seems really unstable. I personally like the look of the stand but now i think im going to wall mount it after seeing how much it rocks on that stand. I know ppl have been saying on the threads thats what its like, but still.

Anyways Saturday morning go to the tv, and its peeling on the top of the screen about an inch over to the right from the left corner. the bubble is about 1 inch wide and 3/4 inch down. Was not there when i unpacked friday, so im thinking the heat friday night when watching the TV did something. Now gotta head back to BB and either decide if i wanna exchange or refund and maybe start looking at something else. Would like to keep what i got cause i got a great deal from them at magnolia (gotta love price matching) but still don't know what im going to do.
post #1898 of 5060
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Originally Posted by Calilife17 View Post

Well just picked up a PN59D8000 last sunday (5/29). Finally got enough time and another person to set it up on friday (6/3). Put it on the stand and wow that seems really unstable. I personally like the look of the stand but now i think im going to wall mount it after seeing how much it rocks on that stand. I know ppl have been saying on the threads thats what its like, but still.

Anyways Saturday morning go to the tv, and its peeling on the top of the screen about an inch over to the right from the left corner. the bubble is about 1 inch wide and 3/4 inch down. Was not there when i unpacked friday, so im thinking the heat friday night when watching the TV did something. Now gotta head back to BB and either decide if i wanna exchange or refund and maybe start looking at something else. Would like to keep what i got cause i got a great deal from them at magnolia (gotta love price matching) but still don't know what im going to do.

Do you have any pics of the peeling?
post #1899 of 5060
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Originally Posted by iButterfingers View Post

Do you have any pics of the peeling?

Already boxed the TV up last night. I can go see if i can just take the top off and shoot a couple of pics of the peeling. Should of taken pics, didn't even think about it.
post #1900 of 5060
So here are some quick pics. The bubble isnt as big as it was yesterday cause i pressed down on it yesterday to see if it would re attach. so that shrunk it a little. These are not amazing photos, as i just did a couple of quick ones with my iphone.

Edit: if you guys want more pics, let me know and i can go get my Digital camera to try and take better pics. Not returning the TV till like 4pm today until after i get off of work.
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post #1901 of 5060
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Originally Posted by alexkidd View Post

If I live in Canada and buy this TV from Futureshop do I get a free 3D glasses kit?

Yes. 2 battery operated glasses with the Shrek 3D movies.
post #1902 of 5060
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Originally Posted by arielgo View Post

Thanks for the suggestion. The only problem with this solution is now I have to use two hands to manage the remote.

After a few weeks I remember most of the locations anyway, but can at least take my time to locate something I don't remember by holding it down...all with one hand. Easier than getting up and turning on a light. Life's rough
post #1903 of 5060
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Originally Posted by Calilife17 View Post

So here are some quick pics. The bubble isnt as big as it was yesterday cause i pressed down on it yesterday to see if it would re attach. so that shrunk it a little. These are not amazing photos, as i just did a couple of quick ones with my iphone.

Edit: if you guys want more pics, let me know and i can go get my Digital camera to try and take better pics. Not returning the TV till like 4pm today until after i get off of work.

I just came back from my fathers house who also has the same TV as I (PN64D8000) and both corners are starting to peel. He has had it for a month now. I went to BB today to pick me up an Apple TV and noticed the display model form the PN64D8000 started to peel swell. There is something seriously wrong with the film cover.

I read somewhere that Samsung was being cheap by using a darker film layer to create the appearance of deeper black levels. Not sure this is true, but would like to know what that film cover is all about. Could be an antiglare film ... who knows.
post #1904 of 5060
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Originally Posted by iButterfingers View Post

I just came back from my fathers house who also has the same TV as I (PN64D8000) and both corners are starting to peel. He has had it for a month now. I went to BB today to pick me up an Apple TV and noticed the display model form the PN64D8000 started to peel swell. There is something seriously wrong with the film cover.

I read somewhere that Samsung was being cheap by using a darker film layer to create the appearance of deeper black levels. Not sure this is true, but would like to know what that film cover is all about. Could be an antiglare film ... who knows.

its an antiglare film.. its not tinted darker for deeper blacks (BS) but it should not peel.. Shame on Samsung for that.
post #1905 of 5060
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Originally Posted by Sooner97 View Post

I've posted a video on youtube about the dimming issues I'm having with my tv. It was happening all the time but today it was only happening on screens with mostly white colors. Anyone else having this issue?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hOfpeihE2Q

Thanks for the video.

I see it dim a little but i does not look a problem to me.

Have you got eco modes all switched off?

Can you post more video's showing a better example of how bad this flicker/dimming can get?
post #1906 of 5060
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Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post

its an antiglare film.. its not tinted darker for deeper blacks (BS) but it should not peel.. Shame on Samsung for that.

While I suspect Samsung didn't develop it on their own, Samsung should have extensively tested it...but who knows maybe 3M or someone like that was responsible and didn't do their job as promised? Hard to tell these days with suppliers on the hook for so many things...
post #1907 of 5060
Calilife17 and iButterfingers, can you PLEASE post your findings regarding the peeling on the CNET forum for this Peeling problem (and pics if possible Calilife17, and maybe you can simply copy and paste your post # 1897?).
Same for iButterfingers, a copy and paste of post #1903 would be so perfect!!

They (Samsung) needs to see (and if not them, people thinking about buying these sets) what the hell is going on with these tv's, the more proof and people, the better.

Link found in the Peeling thread in this forum or simply put CNET Samsung Peeling in google and you will find it very quickly.

Thanks so much if you can do this
post #1908 of 5060
it is a toss up 65 gt30 or 64d8000 which one guys going too buy tomorrow at bb i can get these tv with in $200 FROM EACH OTHER sorry of the caps. Which one has better blacks
post #1909 of 5060
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Originally Posted by 408wd1 View Post

it is a toss up 65 gt30 or 64d8000 which one guys going too buy tomorrow at bb i can get these tv with in $200 FROM EACH OTHER sorry of the caps. Which one has better blacks

Cnet got slighty better blacks from the D8000. GT30 has the most instances of floating brightness vs other panny pdps. D8000 you have the chance of a peeling AR film. Between those 2 I'd go for the D8000 personally.
post #1910 of 5060
Is this an out of the box peel/within a months time or are there instances where it starts to peel after a month or two down the line? Maybe only time will tell as to the latter and I wouldn't want to be the guinea pig. Geez, is it only on the D8000 models? I was thinking of getting a D7000
post #1911 of 5060
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Originally Posted by pochoboy View Post

Is this an out of the box peel/within a months time or are there instances where it starts to peel after a month or two down the line? Maybe only time will tell as to the latter and I wouldn't want to be the guinea pig. Geez, is it only on the D8000 models?

nah you will probably peel within 2 weeks if you peel at all..going by what people have been posting...and sorry not isolated to D8000.
post #1912 of 5060
I Posted in the PNxxD7000 thread, but relevant to PNxxD8000. The topic is the fluctuating contrast/brightness.


I'm On the second day of a new PN64D7000. It replaced an HP 65" DLP that lasted a little over 5 years. The heat eventually cooked the electronics of the HP set. Unfortunately, parts are scarce or not existent, so it was time to move on. The HP set was stable, with satisfying blacks and color. The only gripe, aside from the short life, was the optical pincusion.

D7000 so far:
- stuck/dead pixels: none that I can find
- Peeling: No. So far, so good.
- Buzz: no. The whir from the TiVo external drive is the only thing I can hear.
- Panel crack: no.

For now, I'm trying to take it slowly with the set. Only break-in I am doing is going with movie mode, with brightness and contrast set at 50. The image is somewhat dark, but the room is dark as well.

One gripe, though. I do get brightness fluctuations. It is noticeable at night. I watched a movie last night (Country Strong) and the set was continuously pumping the image brighter and dimmer. The movie has black bars at top and bottom, and it was distracting to see them go from black, to not so black, and back to black again. There was no fixed pattern. It could happen on the same scene as well. Sometimes it would go for a few seconds without any fluctuation, and sometimes you would get three fluctuations within 5 seconds. After the movie I watched a Tivo'd HD episode of House. No black bars in this case, but the fluctuations were present as well. From this thread as well as the D8000 thread I collected some info, and checked the following parameters:
- Dynamic Contrast
- ECO Sensor
- Motion Lighting
- Edge Enhance
- Black Tone
- Digital Noise
And all are off. Gamma at 0. Movie mode at Auto2. The set is at 1009 FW (updated via network from the original 1006.)

Today I followed a TiVo'd program and used Pause/frame forward/frame backward to pinpoint if the fluctuation appears at particular frames. The answer is yes. I found a particular scene where a person walks in the background; this triggers what appears to be blacker blacks. The person disappears from the scene (at this point the scene is exactly the same as before the person walking across the background) but the blacker blacks remain. At this point I did frame backward to the point before the person walks across the background; the scene remained in the blacker black state. Played the scene forward and the scene remained at the blacker black state through the sequence of the person appearing and walking across the background (this rules out that the recorded program contains the fluctuation). The TV stays in the blacker black state until some other event triggers the black to wash out a little again. At this point if I go back to before the person walks across and Play, the screen again goes through the sequence of going to a blacker black state when the person walks across the background.

Conclusion: a certain balance of colors and/or shades triggers the set to change the brightness and/or contrast. There seems to be a buffer between when the screen gets pumped up and pumped down. In the scene described above, the person going across the background probably results in the TV's parameters to cross a certain threshold and the set goes to a blacker black state. The person disappearing from the background results in a scene that has the same chromatic characteristics as before the person had appeared, however these characteristics do not cross the threshold value to pump the black down. The threshold values of going to deeper black state is not the same as the values to trigger softer blacks (this is what I mean by buffer.) Eventually, another event will cause the blacks to get slightly less black.

So, this has to be some setting that can be tweaked. But I'm stumped, since the settings I listed above are all off.

Durny1
post #1913 of 5060
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Originally Posted by pneumatic View Post


I have not witnessed this on any display models which I frequently browse, but if it did occur it should be easily correctable with the white balance controls.

All the manufacturers are running different white balance settings with most of them tinted blue, so you can't really compare them this way. If one is running D75 and the one next to it is D65 then the D65 will probably look yellow-brown in comparison, when it is actually more correct.

I'm not trying to defend Samsung...I just haven't seen any with a pink tint..and I've seen a lot. I have however observed a couple of 42C450's at different stores with unusually dim picture even at max brightness settings which I would deem as faulty. Not seen it on any 50C450's though....

Hi I've just started reading this thread and thought you might want to see a picture of my 63c7000, they don't come much pinker than this.
LL
post #1914 of 5060
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Originally Posted by Gee123

Hi I've just started reading this thread and thought you might want to see a picture of my 63c7000, they don't come much pinker than this.
Your grayscale has "pinked" try Larry's settings from the d7000/d8000 settings thread
post #1915 of 5060
Hey everyone,

I just wanted to share with you our review of the Samsung PN59D8000 plasma TV.

http://canadahifi.com/forum/showthre...=3106#post3106

I own last year's PN50C8000 (50-inch) model and I'm very pleased with it, but this year's picture performance is so much better that I'm seriously considering picking up one of the new models
post #1916 of 5060
Can anyone help me with this issue -

Basically when I watch regular digital tv through inbuilt antenna, after 10 min the anti burn in ticks in if I do not touch the TV.

Now it does not do it on usb source and i haven't really tried the other sources but it happens even when i switch anti burn in protection off.

I have the australian model, which is the ps64d8000 - I will be calling samsung tomorrow not happy

Latest firmware in AU is 1012.2 and when I first installed this, i thought the problem went away but alas its still there.

Any ideas?

EDIT: It does this on HDMI sources as well... any ideas? Anyone else ever see this before...
post #1917 of 5060
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Originally Posted by FraG_AU View Post
Can anyone help me with this issue -

Basically when I watch regular digital tv through inbuilt antenna, after 10 min the anti burn in ticks in if I do not touch the TV.

Now it does not do it on usb source and i haven't really tried the other sources but it happens even when i switch anti burn in protection off.

I have the australian model, which is the ps64d8000 - I will be calling samsung tomorrow not happy

Latest firmware in AU is 1012.2 and when I first installed this, i thought the problem went away but alas its still there.

Any ideas?

EDIT: It does this on HDMI sources as well... any ideas? Anyone else ever see this before...
Sorry, what do you mean here?

Do you mean the screen saver goes on when your watching normal TV?
post #1918 of 5060
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Originally Posted by LOPANindustries View Post
Sorry, what do you mean here?

Do you mean the screen saver goes on when your watching normal TV?
Yep, or when watching HDMI source. Ie the anti burn in protection kicks in on moving screen.

Oh add to that I have a dead pixel on green screen now... REALLY impressed.

I will ring the store tomorrow, but seeing as I went through 2 C8000's and then said enough of that and waited 3 months for the D8000 I am unsure of how accomodating they will be. I'll try them as they have been great so far but wont hold my breath. I'll ring the national Samsung office here in AU, $4000 TV and dead pixels and this problem, come on now what have I done to upset everyone lol
post #1919 of 5060
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Originally Posted by FraG_AU View Post
Yep, or when watching HDMI source. Ie the anti burn in protection kicks in on moving screen.

Oh add to that I have a dead pixel on green screen now... REALLY impressed.

I will ring the store tomorrow, but seeing as I went through 2 C8000's and then said enough of that and waited 3 months for the D8000 I am unsure of how accomodating they will be. I'll try them as they have been great so far but wont hold my breath. I'll ring the national Samsung office here in AU, $4000 TV and dead pixels and this problem, come on now what have I done to upset everyone lol
Sorry, I'm not sure I understand. What exactly do you mean by "anti burn in protection"? To me, that's a general term that can refer to multiple technologies. Thanks.
post #1920 of 5060
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Originally Posted by Durny1 View Post

I Posted in the PNxxD7000 thread, but relevant to PNxxD8000. The topic is the fluctuating contrast/brightness.


I'm On the second day of a new PN64D7000. It replaced an HP 65" DLP that lasted a little over 5 years. The heat eventually cooked the electronics of the HP set. Unfortunately, parts are scarce or not existent, so it was time to move on. The HP set was stable, with satisfying blacks and color. The only gripe, aside from the short life, was the optical pincusion.

D7000 so far:
- stuck/dead pixels: none that I can find
- Peeling: No. So far, so good.
- Buzz: no. The whir from the TiVo external drive is the only thing I can hear.
- Panel crack: no.

For now, I'm trying to take it slowly with the set. Only break-in I am doing is going with movie mode, with brightness and contrast set at 50. The image is somewhat dark, but the room is dark as well.

One gripe, though. I do get brightness fluctuations. It is noticeable at night. I watched a movie last night (Country Strong) and the set was continuously pumping the image brighter and dimmer. The movie has black bars at top and bottom, and it was distracting to see them go from black, to not so black, and back to black again. There was no fixed pattern. It could happen on the same scene as well. Sometimes it would go for a few seconds without any fluctuation, and sometimes you would get three fluctuations within 5 seconds. After the movie I watched a Tivo'd HD episode of House. No black bars in this case, but the fluctuations were present as well. From this thread as well as the D8000 thread I collected some info, and checked the following parameters:
- Dynamic Contrast
- ECO Sensor
- Motion Lighting
- Edge Enhance
- Black Tone
- Digital Noise
And all are off. Gamma at 0. Movie mode at Auto2. The set is at 1009 FW (updated via network from the original 1006.)

Today I followed a TiVo'd program and used Pause/frame forward/frame backward to pinpoint if the fluctuation appears at particular frames. The answer is yes. I found a particular scene where a person walks in the background; this triggers what appears to be blacker blacks. The person disappears from the scene (at this point the scene is exactly the same as before the person walking across the background) but the blacker blacks remain. At this point I did frame backward to the point before the person walks across the background; the scene remained in the blacker black state. Played the scene forward and the scene remained at the blacker black state through the sequence of the person appearing and walking across the background (this rules out that the recorded program contains the fluctuation). The TV stays in the blacker black state until some other event triggers the black to wash out a little again. At this point if I go back to before the person walks across and Play, the screen again goes through the sequence of going to a blacker black state when the person walks across the background.

Conclusion: a certain balance of colors and/or shades triggers the set to change the brightness and/or contrast. There seems to be a buffer between when the screen gets pumped up and pumped down. In the scene described above, the person going across the background probably results in the TV's parameters to cross a certain threshold and the set goes to a blacker black state. The person disappearing from the background results in a scene that has the same chromatic characteristics as before the person had appeared, however these characteristics do not cross the threshold value to pump the black down. The threshold values of going to deeper black state is not the same as the values to trigger softer blacks (this is what I mean by buffer.) Eventually, another event will cause the blacks to get slightly less black.

So, this has to be some setting that can be tweaked. But I'm stumped, since the settings I listed above are all off.

Durny1

I noticed you have film mode set to Auto 2, have you tried the sequence with film mode set to Auto 1 or Off? I was having similar issues with my 59d8000 while displaying 1080i content from DTV. I read on this forum that Auto 1 allows for proper handling of 1080i so I changed to that. It seems to have eliminated the fluctuating blacks in my case. Auto 1 does not however handle streaming text or "the ticker" properly, so that can get annoying while watching SC or the news but not as annoying as black levels fluctuating.
I have had the tv for a month and a half now and really enjoy the 2d PQ of the set (I haven’t watched much 3d so far). I am using zoyd’s movie mode settings currently.
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