Official Samsung 2011 PNxxD8000 Thread [No Price Talk] - Page 110

my greenees are gone at 54

I agree also. Too high of brightness will bring the "greenees" out.

I am surprised "Motion Judder Reduction" got completely removed from the D8000.. On the C8000 it worked good for scrolling scenes involving no people.. Like the Grand Canyon type documentary.. I would have rather seen Samsung add in a 1-10 fine adjustment scale onto the menu of the Standard/Smooth setting.. Like the LCD/LED sets have. I bet that would have worked well.

So I guess there is no judder reduction at all in the new D series plasmas?

[quote=jsulmeyer;21043754]Hi everyone,

Here are my questions:

1. I'm assuming I got a pretty good deal. Any comments?

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jsulmeyer

Based on my experience buying the same TV from the same store, you got a great deal. I don't know enough to answer any other questions you "asked", but I do like my TV. I had a Sam LED and traded for the plasma.

Wes

Hey guys,
Maybe the brightness fluctuation issue was taken care of in 1022. I just got 1022 last night and checked Samsung's web site this morning where they still do not tell you what changes are in 1022.

I'm curious also to see the notes on ver 1022. Since I have yet to notice the brightness fluctuations (after 6 months of use) on my 59D8000, I won't know if that was fixed.

Got me 64D8000 yesterday morning...will provide a deep review with my thoughts in the next few days, but let it run for a bout 8 hours straight yesterday, and dropped in Cue's settings (via ChadB) late last night and WOW! I can not be happier given the price Fry's is selling this for through today - only wish it was 70". My room is large, and going from a 55" to 64" is noticeable, but not the size difference I anticpated.

Its an August build, no peeling, no buzzing (other than what you would anticipate when sticking your head behind the TV) and no brightness pops. So far, just one hell of a TV.

Good to hear. You hear no buzzing when sitting in the sweet spot? (that is, horizontally and vertically centered, a few feet or more away from the screen?)

No, no buzzing. I am sure everyones sweet spot is different. I sit 13-14 feet away...hear no buzzing. Even if I were sitting 8 ft away, I still hear no buzzing.

If I mute the TV, and make sure every other background noise is limited, sure, there is probably some faint audible buzzing/humming at 2ft or so from the TV...but even then, its not much, nor any different than any other plasma I have been around.

Not referring to you sivart321, but if that is the buzzing you guys are always talking about, I'm sorry, but you all need to move on and enjoy your purchase and live your lives. Who the hell watches TV muted, with your face a couple feet from a a 64" TV, carefully listening for a buzz? Life is too short.

If it were that simple, I think very few people would be complaining. For me, the buzz is audible 8+ feet away anytime there is quiet dialog being played. If it was 2 feet away or less, I would be happy and deal. As it is, I have friends and family who comment on it who were otherwise unprompted. It still may be somewhat isolated, but I wanted to get a feel for what you received as I too got the set at Fry's for the crazy cheap price.

Thanks for the info.

I am not audio expert, but having built a couple houses and dealt with HVAC guys who have solved sound transmission problems...might it be as simple as your setup may be amplifying the buzz? I have no idea, but would placing a thin fabric, or membrane on the wall beind the tv absorb the buzz so that it is not further amplified by hitting the wall and getting bounced back at you?

From what I can tell the buzz is coming out of the panel itself and not from the boards in the back/behind. It is simple enough idea to try but I cannot imagine it doing anything. I am also having Fry's come out to take a look and likely replace it.

Well, given you bought from Fry's - might as well take advantage of their generous return policy.

I know a lot of folks dislike Frys - but my experiences have alwasy been top notch - and it was no different on this TV- they sent 3 guys out to deliver mine and they actually took the time to take down my old tv and put the new one up (on the stand), plug in the DirecTV HDMI and let me inspect it for 10 minutes.

New firmware posted on Samsung website today.... Ver.1022.1

Oh wow. Thanks zoyd. That what's exactly what took care of it. I had to dial your settings from the cal thread down to 51 on brightness but now no greenies. The tech reps are still gonna drop by when the parts are ordered so I'll have to factory reset to remove my cal-day/night modes.

I agree. My setup with Fry's was very stress-free. Their installers did break one of the tabs when attaching the screen to the mount, but I wasn't worried about it as that's more of a guide and certainly an issue a little superglue will fix if I feel like taking time enough to do it. I never felt pressured or like I was wasting their time, even though my delivery was set up literally two hours before (not actually scheduled for that day). If you've got one locally or feel like ordering through their online portal, I highly recommend Fry's. Just do your research before you walk into the store as their people aren't nearly as knowledgeable as what I've found searching through forums like these.

Seems to finally have fixed the Netflix black flashing screen...

My tv seems to lighten up on some dark scenes. The blacks look great and then the whole scene seems to lighten. It doesn't always happen, but its fairly frequent.

Any ideas?

This is the brightness pop you hear us all talking about. It's something inherent in the tv's design. I have enough light in my room that I never really notice it.

unfortunetly not......i enjoy that feature too. i love it on first person shooters.

I got a replacement set and it has the same 1 year warranty as the original. I'm not sure why they mentioned 90days to you?

If you have 3d glasses you can get them to replace them for you as well. However, they gave me refurbs in so-so condition cosmetically while my previous pair's were mint.

The 'D' series is a big improvement over the 'C' IMO except for the fluctuating brightness. As you probably read, some people don't notice it at all so it's hard to say how much that'll bother you? Other than that this set is fantastic!

As for the buzzing, my 1st 'D' was very loud and my 2nd one is a little louder than my 'C' which I already thought was loud. It bugs me but I can live with it. I think the odds of truely getting a non-buzzer is rare for those who have sensitive ears.

Good luck. ps.- I was lucky and got Samsung to replace my 1st replacement immediately. So if your 1st replacement set has problems don't be afraid to demand another replacement instead of having them try to fix it.

My C8000 is out of warranty so they are giving me a new 2011 with a 90 day warranty and have been told I can buy additional. Are you saying you got a replacement for your C8000 with a full year extension on top of what you had with the C8000?


Never noticed any buzzing with my C8000 even putting my ear right up to the set.


I was assuming the 3D glasses I am using for the C8000 would work with the D8000 - not so?


Yeah - I plan to look for the brightness issue and run the new set through its paces but with the extended warranty, and the service I am getting so far, I shouldn't expect any issues from them on making it right. I really like my C8000 except for the pink banding which I guess they cannot easily fix - thus the new set.

Sorry, I overlooked that, mine was within the year warranty. Yes, they said the new tv has a new 1 year warranty. After your 90 days try and regisiter it to see what happens? I think it's strange that they'll give you a new tv without the year warranty. Either way that was cool of them.

I thought you wrote in another forum about buzzing, my bad.

The glasses are different, blue tooth vs infra-red. They won't work.

I'd be curious to see how you feel about the brightness issue? I loved my 'C' and I was shocked at how much better the 'D' is overall. Let me know what you think?

Review of 64D8000

Received my 64D8000 on Wednesday morning via Fry's. Had been shopping for a 64", 65", or 70" set to replace a 6 year old 55" SXRD.

My consideration set was the Sammy 64D7000, 64D8000, Panny VT30, and the Sharp 70" 735 series. Price really was not a huge factor, but as you will read, ultimately price tipped the scale in favor of the Sammy 64D8000.

As much as I liked the Sharp 70" - I simply got a bit of cold feet buying the first generation of the 70" sets...however, I think a 70" set would have given me more wow factor in terms of size. My room is big, and 64" got small pretty fast. Don't get my wrong - its big, but not as big as I would have thought. My room is 20x24 or so, with 10ft ceilings. TV fades into the room pretty quick.

I purchased from Fry's in Downers Grove, IL. The sale has ended, so I will say that for a few days, they were selling the 64D8000 for $2299. No online retailer came within 15% of that. I know a lot of folks don't like Fry's, but my experience, like others I have had with them, was great. Purchase took about 15 minutes. Of course they pushed extra cables, mounts and extended warranties - passed on all. Purchased at about 8PM on Tuesday - for $50 they delivered by 9:30 AM next morning. Three guys brought it in, put it on the stand, powered it up, hooked up the HDMI to DirecTV and let me inspect it for 5-10 minutes. I said it looked great, and they were on their way. Best $50 I could have spent not having to try and transport that beast on my own.

On to the TV itself. Having read this thread top to bottom, a piece of me was concerned about the peeling or brightness issues. As I expected, I have neither problem. My August build looked great out of the box...no peeling, pops or buzzing. I will say, I knew if it looked this good out of the box after only being on 10 minutes, I would be in for good things once I dialed it in properly.

Not that I believe the break-in period was needed - but had some meetings to attend for work - so let it run for a good 8 hours while I was out. Got back home and plugged in Cue's settings (from the calibration thread) and am floored at how much pop and sharpness their is to the picture. I am glad my decision to go Samsung over Panny verified itself. IMHO, I just think the Samsung had a bit more "oomph" to the picture - the color is just so lifelike. Nothing against the Panny, as maybe it has the black level edge, but being a "layperson", I like the color and vividness more than black level.

I tuned on a older movie "The Firm" (Tom Cruise) that dates to 1993 on HBO. I could not believe how awesome it looked. I would have swore it was shot a couple weeks ago - absolutely not noise or grain in the picture.

My kids watched "Up" that night, and wow, is that a reference movie to show off these new TV's. Phenomenal.

DirecTV looks great on this thing - and am pleasantly surprised how good SD looks on this thing.

The SMART TV stuff is very cool - I just wonder how much of it I will actually utilize.

This thing does seem to put out some heat - so clearly LED has an edge there.

The stand is a bit too modern for my likes - but it will eventually be wall mounted, so not a big deal. Still don't get why Sammy would not have used the same one as the d7000, as it just looks classier.

In the end, can't imagine a TV performing better than this one...It really is a 10/10, and the fact that I paid $2299 for a top of the line 64" plasma is insane.

As I expected, the brightness pops, peeling and buzzing are non-existent. Not saying that some people don't have it - but I highly doubt it is as widespread as the handful of posters on here make it appear.

I would highly recco this TV to anyone without reservation. And at the price this thing appears to be going for, its an absolute steal.

I liked it so much, two days later, I bough the lower model D550 in the 59" version for the master bedroom - and set is almost equally as impressive with no issues as well - that set is a July build.

Just used Cue's settings on my D59 last night after 8 hrs of breakin. Wow, impressive. I purchased World Cup Rugby Wales vs Ireland which aired at 9:45pm. We turned out all of the lights and were utterly impressed by the PQ. We have had been using LCDs since 2006, so this is an incredible step up in the pq zone for us.

O.K., here's my situation..coming off a great commercial grade Panasonic 42" Plasma that's been the focal point in our family room for the past 6 years. Needless to say, it's only a 480p "ED" monitor, but the PQ is amazing.. some folks can't tell it's not HD! I'm in the market for a new tv, with a 55.5 inch physical width restriction.. I started looking at the UN60D8000 LED from Samsung (LOVE the physical appearance of that display). It works for me from a physical size front, and "barely" fits the budget. After realizing I'm going to need a new A/V receiver with HDMI 1.4a switching for 3d and return audio, I'm realizing I will be spending a lot more money than planned. The only reason I'm looking now at the PN59D8000 is that I can get it for $1000 less than the 60" LED. My viewing distance is 13' and I don't think the 1" view-able difference is going to kill me!! I'm trying to do as much research as I can before I drop the money on either one of these. I like the energy efficiency of the LED, but the $$$ of the Plasma. I like to watch hockey, other sports, movies, gaming, etc..this thing will see it all. Looking for some feedback for those that have experience comparing the Samsung 60" LED vs. the 59" Plasma.. Is there a glaring reason (other than power consumption, weight, and the bezel) why I would go with the LED over the plasma? (I'm honestly not trying to start the gazillionth thread on LED/LCD vs Plasma...just looking for actual feedback on these specific units).

Oh by the way...see my join date?? Came here back then for guidance in my Plasma purchase! This forum guided my decision 6 years ago which was absolutely perfect.. Hoping for some similar feedback 6 years later!!!

Wow. At the shootout, Just heard that D-nice is leaning toward the Samsung Plasma over the Elite and Vt30 as his favorite panel at the shoot out (excluding the Kuro). Loves its reference color.

He said he was surprised as he thought the Elite would be the winner heading into the event.

He was pretty candid about that...personally I think some of that may have been a shot across the bow of Panasonic to addess color issues that should have already been addressed.

I personally can't tell the difference in actual use, but the Samsung CMS is a lightyear ahead of the Panasonic version, which is well-known to be murderous to calibrate precisely.

What surprised me is that the Panny and Sammy held their own (and then some) against the Sharp Elite.