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post #391 of 5052
3/25/11 at 10:24am
Listen guys. I own both. If anyone is serious about any questions call me David 2483791876
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post #392 of 5052
3/25/11 at 10:48am
When you say you have both TV's which ones are you referring to?
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post #393 of 5052
3/25/11 at 11:14am
And why would you put your phone number out there like that?

Do you live in Nigeria?
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post #394 of 5052
3/25/11 at 11:25am
First off if you guys read this forum or past posts. Own Pn59c8000 and 59d8000. And I live in Michigan which is not near Nigeria I might add. Have you been there though?? Anyways don't given my phone number to help other people who are trying to make a decision.

I do have bad news though. Went with a friend to purchase his Pn59d8000. The manager who is very tech savvy and has been all over the world to tv expos. Told us that we should purchase the pn58c8000 over the d series because he had word that the pn59d8000 over 200 hrs on it loses alot of the blacks because of the LCE. He said reason for this is samsung put out this tv to gradually over time become more natural looking therefore decreasing blacks because of LCE. Sucks cuz I own the 58c but just purchased the 59d. He claims that 58c is the best plasma that samsung has put out and the changes the made to d series took a step back.
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post #395 of 5052
3/25/11 at 11:32am
^^^^^^I don't know if I can listen to anymore of the ridiculous crap being said in this thread
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post #396 of 5052
3/25/11 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by Hudson1 View Post

Similarly, a 1080i signal isn't magically transformed to 1080P

yes it is. Its called Deinterlacing and needs to be done. In the end, a 1080p display will always display everything at 1080p.
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post #397 of 5052
3/25/11 at 11:42am
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Originally Posted by mrstlouis7 View Post

^^^^^^I don't know if I can listen to anymore of the ridiculous crap being said in this thread

I agree!
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post #398 of 5052
3/25/11 at 11:51am
Thanks for reminder of which TV's you have David and graciously giving us the option to call for help.
I currently have the 63C8000 but really feeling like taking it back to BB due to 3D options and wanting more current supported technology. Had to buy the tv with the BluPlayer and 3D glasses that are hard to find. 3D is ok but something not totally needed for my happyness. Plus my eyes water when playing video games in 3D.

David can you post some side by side pics to show us difference in PQ, Blacks, etc.
Is the 3D performance better on the D model?

I would hate to get the D model now with the latest bit of information just given about 200hrs shelf life for blacks. If that is the case they should be ready to give a lot of rebates or refunds. Chadbe sure to verify this in your testing.
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post #399 of 5052
3/25/11 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by david1923 View Post

First off if you guys read this forum or past posts. Own Pn59c8000 and 59d8000. And I live in Michigan which is not near Nigeria I might add. Have you been there though?? Anyways don't given my phone number to help other people who are trying to make a decision.

I do have bad news though. Went with a friend to purchase his Pn59d8000. The manager who is very tech savvy and has been all over the world to tv expos. Told us that we should purchase the pn58c8000 over the d series because he had word that the pn59d8000 over 200 hrs on it loses alot of the blacks because of the LCE. He said reason for this is samsung put out this tv to gradually over time become more natural looking therefore decreasing blacks because of LCE. Sucks cuz I own the 58c but just purchased the 59d. He claims that 58c is the best plasma that samsung has put out and the changes the made to d series took a step back.

Lol. Wow, that's sounds like a load of "desperate to sell old inventory" c**p if I've ever heard any.
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post #400 of 5052
3/25/11 at 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by troy0brown View Post

The good news is that after you "hand over the checkbook" like I did 20 or so years ago, your wife will be so sick of your AV obsession that she will let you buy whatever you want as long as she doesn't have to come along or hear about "should I get 59 or 64" or " should I wait to see the new panasonic"

Yeah...I gotta figure out how that works. For some reason, my wife prefers a smaller display (like 40")...me on the other hand...I'd take the 64" without hesitation.
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post #401 of 5052
3/25/11 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by EvilNui View Post

yes it is. Its called Deinterlacing and needs to be done. In the end, a 1080p display will always display everything at 1080p.

Maybe I could have described it better but I did say it does the pixel mapping at 1:1. But it's not technically 1080P because that entire picture is only being refreshed every other cycle (30 times per second, not 60 times per second) as that is what the input signal refresh rate is.
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post #402 of 5052
3/25/11 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by Hudson1 View Post

But it's not technically 1080P because that entire picture is only being refreshed every other cycle (30 times per second, not 60 times per second) as that is what the input signal refresh rate is.

Obviously i wasn't to clear either . Deinterlacing "converts" 1080i to 1080p and the image is displayed progressively (in full frames) in 60p, 30p or 24p depending on material and deinterlacer if the source was 60 half images per second.
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post #403 of 5052
3/25/11 at 1:05pm
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Originally Posted by david1923 View Post

First off if you guys read this forum or past posts. Own Pn59c8000 and 59d8000. And I live in Michigan which is not near Nigeria I might add. Have you been there though?? Anyways don't given my phone number to help other people who are trying to make a decision.

I do have bad news though. Went with a friend to purchase his Pn59d8000. The manager who is very tech savvy and has been all over the world to tv expos. Told us that we should purchase the pn58c8000 over the d series because he had word that the pn59d8000 over 200 hrs on it loses alot of the blacks because of the LCE. He said reason for this is samsung put out this tv to gradually over time become more natural looking therefore decreasing blacks because of LCE. Sucks cuz I own the 58c but just purchased the 59d. He claims that 58c is the best plasma that samsung has put out and the changes the made to d series took a step back.

Not sure I understood the problem? Is the LCE in the D8000 series the problem? If so, why did he not recommend the D7000 since it doesn't have LCE and last years model ( C8000) does not include "Skype" or the other improvements that this years models have! Not sure if his statement: "C8000 best TV Samsung made" has the ring of truth to it?
Just my 2 cents worth.
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post #404 of 5052
3/25/11 at 7:14pm
This is amazing "warning". I can't believe this. Me and a friend of mine sitting watching my pn59d8000 and he says to me this tv looks shorter I said what you talkin bout. He said let's go look at the pn58c8000 that you put in your room. So we measured the tv vertically and it's 3 in half inches shorter. What the ****. He was right it is shorter top to bottom but inch longer side to side. What the.....
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post #405 of 5052
3/25/11 at 7:23pm
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Originally Posted by david1923 View Post

This is amazing "warning". I can't believe this. Me and a friend of mine sitting watching my pn59d8000 and he says to me this tv looks shorter I said what you talkin bout. He said let's go look at the pn58c8000 that you put in your room. So we measured the tv vertically and it's 3 in half inches shorter. What the ****. He was right it is shorter top to bottom but inch longer side to side. What the.....

Obviously you were measuring the bezel not the viewable screen area...
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post #406 of 5052
3/25/11 at 7:35pm
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Originally Posted by david1923 View Post

This is amazing "warning". I can't believe this. Me and a friend of mine sitting watching my pn59d8000 and he says to me this tv looks shorter I said what you talkin bout. He said let's go look at the pn58c8000 that you put in your room. So we measured the tv vertically and it's 3 in half inches shorter. What the ****. He was right it is shorter top to bottom but inch longer side to side. What the.....

Fail....

Measure the screen size for christs sake....
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post #407 of 5052
3/25/11 at 7:37pm
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Originally Posted by mrstlouis7 View Post

^^^^^^I don't know if I can listen to anymore of the ridiculous crap being said in this thread

Can we fast-forward to a D-nice review of these things, please?
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post #408 of 5052
3/25/11 at 7:39pm
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Originally Posted by Spanbauer View Post

It's like everything we heard from Samsung at CES came from a parallel universe. Black levels are 4x what they claimed, Cinema smooth isn't fixed, there's no local contrast enhancer, the remote isn't touchscreen and the D8000 isn't silver. Hell, at this point someone ought to measure the 51" screen to be sure it isn't actually 50 inches.

I think Samsung just repackaged the C series and changed the letter to D.

lol...seems like everything Samsung claimed would be fixed or improved was either made worse or stayed the same
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post #409 of 5052
3/25/11 at 7:44pm
If you're up to your ears with ridiculous crap and it's only March, I don't know if you Samsung guys are ready for your panels to start winning awards and shoot-outs.
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post #410 of 5052
3/25/11 at 8:46pm
I'm looking at a PN59D8000 to replace my buzzing PN58C8000. Can someone please let me know how many inches from the top of the bezel the mounting screws are located on the back? Thanks!
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post #411 of 5052
3/25/11 at 10:55pm
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Originally Posted by ncfoster View Post

Can we fast-forward to a D-nice review of these things, please?

you will have to wait for the shoot out more than likely.
D-Nice has never had an official review of a Samsung Plasma TV.

besides.... the D8000 51" is a flop. The C8000 58" has better black levels and is a 2010 model

Plus.... the most important improvement we where looking for never happened like people from Samsung said it would.
The old Cinema Smooth Bug!

oh well.... 2012 will be the year of the plasma....
the year that the best Plasma TV's will finally be equal the best 2008 Plasma TV's.

The only chance 2011 has is the VT30.... so we will see
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post #412 of 5052
3/25/11 at 10:59pm
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Originally Posted by david1923 View Post

he had word that the pn59d8000 over 200 hrs on it loses alot of the blacks because of the LCE. He said reason for this is samsung put out this tv to gradually over time become more natural looking therefore decreasing blacks because of LCE.

Sounds fishy to me, but if I get a chance I'll check it.
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post #413 of 5052
3/26/11 at 1:26am
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Originally Posted by Chad B View Post

Sounds fishy to me, but if I get a chance I'll check it.

Chad,

Not sure if you're aware but people are reporting floating blacks on the 2011 Samsungs (notably koffas who owns both C7000 and D7000 models). Are you able to re-check this as well, if you get the chance?
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post #414 of 5052
3/26/11 at 1:40am
i have the 63c8000 and and the only real issues i have are the line bleeding and 3d sync. I know the d8000 fixes the sync issues but does it still have the line bleeding issues?
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post #415 of 5052
3/26/11 at 1:57am
Youtube is full of videos of the LED D7000/D8000 series, but no videos of the Plasma D8000, if anyone wants to make a video please....
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post #416 of 5052
3/26/11 at 8:23am
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Originally Posted by FreakMan09 View Post

i have the 63c8000 and and the only real issues i have are the line bleeding and 3d sync. I know the d8000 fixes the sync issues but does it still have the line bleeding issues?

yes line bleed does exists...as with many panels no matter the mfg.
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post #417 of 5052
3/26/11 at 8:35am
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Originally Posted by Xander21 View Post

Youtube is full of videos of the LED D7000/D8000 series, but no videos of the Plasma D8000, if anyone wants to make a video please....

What video would you like? Just got it setup last night and playing with everything on it this morning. Looking for picture settings now.
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post #418 of 5052
3/26/11 at 8:46am
One with the tv on standby and one displaying an animation or action movie? That's all I'm asking :P thanks!
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post #419 of 5052
3/26/11 at 9:35am
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Originally Posted by Tvidiot View Post

Thanks to the killer deal Chris at Cleveland Plasma just gave me, I will soon be the owner of a 59D8000.

Just for the record, I will

1. Not dwell on black levels
2. Not run break-in slides
3. Post pictures when I get it set up
4. Enjoy the biggest panel I have ever owned.

I'd agree with all your four points except point no. 2, at least for the first few hours. Please just run break-in slides for the initial 100-200 hours. Please do so because there's little harm that can come from it except some sacrifice of time and electricity. Just make sure to give the TV some breaks during the 200 hours or at least make sure it never gets too hot during the break-in.

Resistance to burn-in or IR seem to vary from set to set even within the same model range. Evidence of this is all over the forums, so you don't want to be one of those with a set that is very prone to burn-in during the first 200 hours and ruin your TV for good. Then you'll have to wait around for it to be replaced, assuming your retailer allows you to return the TV for said problem at all.
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post #420 of 5052
3/26/11 at 3:18pm
First off I own both 2010 and the new d800. No floating blacks at all on either. One huge deal is no mjc on pn59d8000 and watching sports it has a problem keeping up and sucks cuz on my c8000 I can put mjc to high takes care of it but with 59d no option. What f is that???
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