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post #4741 of 5052
4/5/12 at 12:25am
I'm trying to think of how to describe this buzzing. From behind, I can't hear the sound thats been bothering me. Instead from behind it just sounds like a typical electronic running. From anywhere in front of the TV, anywhere where your head is in front of the glass panel, you are immediately hit with this high-pitched noise I can only describe as some sort of insect. The moment you turn your head the sound gets much louder.
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post #4742 of 5052
4/5/12 at 1:07am
Sorry for the constant posts but I thought I'd add that turning the contrast ratio, brightness, and cell light to 0 don't really affect the noise. Also this noise is not that audible from the sides or behind.
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post #4743 of 5052
4/5/12 at 6:22am
It's funny, I notice that my set does have the humming now. The good thing is that I don't notice it when watching TV. Generally, I have mounted the TV on the wall and it's not directly centered to my face... as in, I have it mounted higher than optimal. When I sit down, it's not a problem at all. When I stand up, I can hear the buzzing. If I had this TV on my stand right in front of my face, I think that the buzzing may bother me.
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post #4744 of 5052
4/5/12 at 6:37am
Yami, you most likely have panel noise (not power supply). This is fairly common with Samsungs. My first attempt to get the repair guy to fix it was rejected, but I did not follow up with Samsung (they were repairing something else at that time). I can manage it by tilting the panel - raise the back side of the stand an inch or less. This sends most of the noise more towards my floor, so as long as I sit up straight, I'm not bothered by it. My reluctance to pursue it with Samsung is because they have a very poor track record with repairing buzzes, and I'm otherwise very pleased with the TV.

That said, if you are persistant, they will most likely take care of it for you under warranty.
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post #4745 of 5052
4/5/12 at 8:35am
Yami,

I got my 64D8000 yesterday. I would say overall that this panel buzzes less than my 50C550, neither are loud enough to be interfering. Frankly, my wife doesn't hear it at all. However, I do notice as they are watching a 3D movie off of Brighthouse that there are occasional brightness pops, perhaps it could even be the source material.

Again, being a child that grew up with a VCR that showed Macrovision (anyone remember that?) on all prerecorded vhs tapes, this is such a minor thing to me that I am in agreeance with Katzmeyer about the fact that neither of these issues detract from the whole experience.

I found the mosquito noise of the VT30 to be far more annoying IMHO.
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post #4746 of 5052
4/5/12 at 9:17am
There are some that buzz, some that don't, and everything in between. Either you have a relatively good set, or are not as sensitive to the noise. This is mostly high frequency, so I've found many people are unable to hear it (or barely notice). But for those of us who can, when it is relatively loud, it is absolutely not something that can be ignored. BTW, I am unable to hear even a slight buzz from my friend's PN64D8000.
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post #4747 of 5052
4/5/12 at 12:10pm
To answer the question about the glasses. Best Buy has the 2011 Battery operated ones for $20. We got 3 pairs but one magically did not have a battery in it so we will need to exchange it. The other 2 work great! We tried the Cable "free" ppv 3d stuff and it looked fantastic! Even at half res (Top/Bottom mode)
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post #4748 of 5052
4/5/12 at 5:59pm
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Yami, you most likely have panel noise (not power supply). This is fairly common with Samsungs. My first attempt to get the repair guy to fix it was rejected, but I did not follow up with Samsung (they were repairing something else at that time). I can manage it by tilting the panel - raise the back side of the stand an inch or less. This sends most of the noise more towards my floor, so as long as I sit up straight, I'm not bothered by it. My reluctance to pursue it with Samsung is because they have a very poor track record with repairing buzzes, and I'm otherwise very pleased with the TV.

That said, if you are persistant, they will most likely take care of it for you under warranty.

Is that technically a defect? I am going to return it to the amazon seller, but since they have no models left, I will simply be getting a refund. In order for them to pay me to ship it back, it needs to be deemed defective. This panel noise seems ridiculous, which leaves me to believe it is a defect. I can't see how anyone could tolerate this level of buzz. When I looked on youtube, there are similar sounding buzz noises on videos called "Samsung plasma buzz"
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post #4749 of 5052
4/5/12 at 6:03pm
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Is that technically a defect? I am going to return it to the amazon seller, but since they have no models left, I will simply be getting a refund. In order for them to pay me to ship it back, it needs to be deemed defective. This panel noise seems ridiculous, which leaves me to believe it is a defect. I can't see how anyone could tolerate this level of buzz. When I looked on youtube, there are similar sounding buzz noises on videos called "Samsung plasma buzz"

There's a definition of what Samsung calls acceptable noise levels in the manual I believe. Certain number of feet away with the tv's speakers up to a set number...a guideline the seller may well go by.
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post #4750 of 5052
4/5/12 at 6:29pm
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To answer the question about the glasses. Best Buy has the 2011 Battery operated ones for $20. We got 3 pairs but one magically did not have a battery in it so we will need to exchange it. The other 2 work great! We tried the Cable "free" ppv 3d stuff and it looked fantastic! Even at half res (Top/Bottom mode)

That's awesome news , I was wondering if I needed the more expensive rechargeable ones , for reasons other than being rechargeable , but if the cheap ones perform well , I'll definitely go that route.

I still need to order a wall mount , I looked on MONOPRICE , they have some excellent prices , but are the mounts heavy enough to hold the 64"? I need some good suggestions on an inexpensive mount that is proven to work well with this model TV.
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post #4751 of 5052
4/5/12 at 7:49pm
[QUOTEI still need to order a wall mount , I looked on MONOPRICE , they have some excellent prices , but are the mounts heavy enough to hold the 64"? I need some good suggestions on an inexpensive mount that is proven to work well with this model TV.[/quote]

I have seen other people post that they have used a mount from Monoprice, I wasn't comfortable hanging a $3500. TV with a $30 dollar mount.

Don't get me wrong, I spend big bucks at Monoprice but not for a TV mount.
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post #4752 of 5052
4/5/12 at 8:48pm
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[QUOTEI still need to order a wall mount , I looked on MONOPRICE , they have some excellent prices , but are the mounts heavy enough to hold the 64"? I need some good suggestions on an inexpensive mount that is proven to work well with this model TV.

I have seen other people post that they have used a mount from Monoprice, I wasn't comfortable hanging a $3500. TV with a $30 dollar mount.

Don't get me wrong, I spend big bucks at Monoprice but not for a TV mount.[/quote]

Those are my sentiments exactly , this is a huge investment for me , I can't have it come crashing down on me. It seems there is a wealth of information on this forum with regards to AV equipment , but I cant find much about wall mounts. They vary greatly in price , I've seen them anywhere from $15 to $500 , I just need to know what are some good ones , that won't have a problem supporting the substantial weight of a 64" plasma for many years to come.
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post #4753 of 5052
4/5/12 at 8:56pm
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I have seen other people post that they have used a mount from Monoprice, I wasn't comfortable hanging a $3500. TV with a $30 dollar mount.

Don't get me wrong, I spend big bucks at Monoprice but not for a TV mount.

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Those are my sentiments exactly , this is a huge investment for me , I can't have it come crashing down on me. It seems there is a wealth of information on this forum with regards to AV equipment , but I cant find much about wall mounts. They vary greatly in price , I've seen them anywhere from $15 to $500 , I just need to know what are some good ones , that won't have a problem supporting the substantial weight of a 64" plasma for many years to come.

If you aren't going to use an articulating mount it doesn't take a very expensive mount that is rated for the weight of the display to do the job. Even with a more expensive mount, I would replace the lag bolts with a higher quality. I'd also try for three studs instead of two, but in my case I had to go with two studs. I would make absolutely sure that the bolts are dead center on the studs.

One reason for spending more is to get a mount that will easily tilt and adjust in case you want to get behind the display without dismounting it. Of course if you go with a flat mount that's not possible.
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post #4754 of 5052
4/5/12 at 9:25pm
[/quote]If you aren't going to use an articulating mount it doesn't take a very expensive mount that is rated for the weight of the display to do the job. Even with a more expensive mount, I would replace the lag bolts with a higher quality. I'd also try for three studs instead of two, but in my case I had to go with two studs. I would make absolutely sure that the bolts are dead center on the studs.

One reason for spending more is to get a mount that will easily tilt and adjust in case you want to get behind the display without dismounting it. Of course if you go with a flat mount that's not possible.[/quote]

Unfortunately the wall I am most likely to mount it on has studs on 24" centers , so two studs is the most I'll likely be able to hit , I definitely intend to use some good stainless lag bolts , 3.5" long. I have no need for tilt or articulation for viewing , but it might be nice for access to the connections. Sanus makes one that has what they call a kickstand , it's a low profile mount that allows the panel to tilt out on the bottom for easier hookup, but I'm not sure how good of a mount it is.
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post #4755 of 5052
4/5/12 at 10:19pm
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Sanus makes one that has what they call a kickstand , it's a low profile mount that allows the panel to tilt out on the bottom for easier hookup, but I'm not sure how good of a mount it is.

Sanus stands are high quality. I have a Peerless ST670 which is also a good quality tilt mount. I've used the tilt feature once in over four years.
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post #4756 of 5052
4/6/12 at 2:05am
Hi,

I just received my 64PSD8000 and I also suffer the loud buzz, offcourse the loudest when you are sitting right in front of it.

Somebody here mentioned some 40 pages ago that an engineer used 'shims' on a coil to reduce the vibrations. What is a 'shim' exactly and does anybody have a picture of it?
And what
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Adjusting the rheostats to their spec values seems to have done the trick. I don't think the main board replacement did anything. I also noticed how they installed shims on each power board to help reduce any vibration.

Is there a picture of the backside of an open TV online?

I really love the tv except for those unbearable noises. I had a 50" LG plasma before and that one didn't bother me at all.
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post #4757 of 5052
4/6/12 at 8:00am
Well I called samsung and told them, and they will send a technician sometime on Wednesday. Hopefully it can be fixed or replaced.. even though I'm feeling uneasy since I still watch 4x3 content or game a lot, I don't want to get rid of the TV since its a very good one visually speaking. I'm hoping the burn-in only happens when you leave something static on for a very long time. I also watch news and stuff, but I can't see that being that big of an issue since they are always interrupted by commercials, or logos that are translucent.
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post #4758 of 5052
4/6/12 at 9:18am
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Those are my sentiments exactly , this is a huge investment for me , I can't have it come crashing down on me..

I've had my Samsung 52" LCD, (probably weighs about 80lbs), on a Monoprice mount for over 2 years and have never had a problem. My new Samsung plasma is on the same mount. I think it cost about $30.

I understand your guys' trepidation I guess but I think you're worrying FAR too much. Unless you guys are buying articulating mounts it's just a piece of metal bolted to the wall by a few bolts, how much money do you need to spend? If you want to blow a couple hundred bucks on a mount go right ahead. Just doesn't make sense to me.
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post #4759 of 5052
4/6/12 at 11:55am
I agree on the concern over the mount. I mounted my PN50C550 with a flush mount and even tried hanging from it to see if it would budge. The key is to make sure it is attached to your wall studs properly.

If you think you will have trouble lining up the studs, use a 2 inch or thicker sheet of plywood, attach it to 2 or 3 studs, texture and paint it, and then mount the tv mount to that.
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post #4760 of 5052
4/6/12 at 11:58am
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I've had my Samsung 52" LCD, (probably weighs about 80lbs), on a Monoprice mount for over 2 years and have never had a problem. My new Samsung plasma is on the same mount. I think it cost about $30.

I understand your guys' trepidation I guess but I think you're worrying FAR too much. Unless you guys are buying articulating mounts it's just a piece of metal bolted to the wall by a few bolts, how much money do you need to spend? If you want to blow a couple hundred bucks on a mount go right ahead. Just doesn't make sense to me.

You have quoted Fuzzybear50 under my name due to a HTML coding error that I've fixed now. Sorry for the confusion.
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post #4761 of 5052
4/6/12 at 12:24pm
So now that I have had my pn64d8000 for a day or so I can say that it is absolutely amazing!

We replaced a 10 year old CRT RPTV that lost it's convergence I/C, but we have a Samsung plasma in the bedroom. When I watched the C550, I thought to myself that it couldn't look THAT much better, maybe the D550 would be just as good, but it certainly does make a huge difference. Star Wars looks night and day different between the 2 panels, not just the deeper black levels, but the overall color gammut and clarity.

Then in addition, this is our first 3d tv, we watched and oogled at a few trailers and those 3D IMAX movies that are free on PPV and we spent several hours playing Uncharted 3 in 3D. I especially love how REAL the water looks in 3D! I have only noticed some rare crosstalk where it seemed like a goof in the source material, less frequent than what I've experienced in the 3D movies in theme parks and theater releases.

I heard some slight buzz initially, it sounded like a wasp, because it was a wasp! No more buzz!!

I occasionally see brightness pops, but I understand there is a FW fix for that.
I am in no hurry to install it. It doesn't bother me much and no one else in my household has even noticed it.
If you find a good deal on the D8000, jump on it!!! I highly recommend it!
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post #4762 of 5052
4/6/12 at 3:29pm
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So now that I have had my pn64d8000 for a day or so I can say that it is absolutely amazing!

We replaced a 10 year old CRT RPTV that lost it's convergence I/C, but we have a Samsung plasma in the bedroom. When I watched the C550, I thought to myself that it couldn't look THAT much better, maybe the D550 would be just as good, but it certainly does make a huge difference. Star Wars looks night and day different between the 2 panels, not just the deeper black levels, but the overall color gammut and clarity.

Then in addition, this is our first 3d tv, we watched and oogled at a few trailers and those 3D IMAX movies that are free on PPV and we spent several hours playing Uncharted 3 in 3D. I especially love how REAL the water looks in 3D! I have only noticed some rare crosstalk where it seemed like a goof in the source material, less frequent than what I've experienced in the 3D movies in theme parks and theater releases.

I heard some slight buzz initially, it sounded like a wasp, because it was a wasp! No more buzz!!

I occasionally see brightness pops, but I understand there is a FW fix for that.
I am in no hurry to install it. It doesn't bother me much and no one else in my household has even noticed it.
If you find a good deal on the D8000, jump on it!!! I highly recommend it!

Congrats!! I missed the boat at best buy!!
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post #4763 of 5052
4/6/12 at 5:52pm
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Congrats!! I missed the boat at best buy!!

what happened at best buy
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post #4764 of 5052
4/7/12 at 8:21am
I finally got my PN59D8000's picture to look nearly excellent. Only thing is on some channels, the faces look the color of a doll. Like plastic. But other channels are perfect. Is it the cable or the T.V.? If the T.V. what adjustment should I make? Also, on this model should I be getting blurring and artifacts during sporting events when fast motion passes with the crow in the background? Because the crowd looks a little blocky. Any help appreciated. Thanks!
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post #4765 of 5052
4/7/12 at 11:33am
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I finally got my PN59D8000's picture to look nearly excellent. Only thing is on some channels, the faces look the color of a doll. Like plastic. But other channels are perfect. Is it the cable or the T.V.? If the T.V. what adjustment should I make? Also, on this model should I be getting blurring and artifacts during sporting events when fast motion passes with the crow in the background? Because the crowd looks a little blocky. Any help appreciated. Thanks!

So you think your tv is being picky? The tv is what it is, so if something changes drastically from channel to channel...or source to source....what do you think? There's a bit of variance in source/material out there as well as issues with delivery. The tv is your most constant element among those.

It's not perfect with motion especially pans like you describe (better than my briefly tried LCD was, though).

What settings did you use to get "nearly excellent"? Did you have it properly calibrated?
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4/7/12 at 2:45pm
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So you think your tv is being picky? The tv is what it is, so if something changes drastically from channel to channel...or source to source....what do you think? There's a bit of variance in source/material out there as well as issues with delivery. The tv is your most constant element among those.

It's not perfect with motion especially pans like you describe (better than my briefly tried LCD was, though).

What settings did you use to get "nearly excellent"? Did you have it properly calibrated?

Picture quality is a subjective issue. For my taste, dynamic mode, cell light 20, contrast 80, brightness 50, sharpness 60, color 55.

Professional calibration is not in my current budget.
I agree that logic dictates the cable signal being the variant given the tv's overall great HD picture.

Thanks for your reply.
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post #4767 of 5052
4/7/12 at 3:09pm
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Picture quality is a subjective issue. For my taste, dynamic mode, cell light 20, contrast 80, brightness 50, sharpness 60, color 55.

Given your current taste, a professional calibration might not please you. The aim of a calibration is to make a display as close as possible to industry standards used in the production of source material. You would have to give up the "jazzy" picture qualities that you like now.
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4/7/12 at 3:31pm
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Picture quality is a subjective issue. For my taste, dynamic mode, cell light 20, contrast 80, brightness 50, sharpness 60, color 55.

Professional calibration is not in my current budget.
I agree that logic dictates the cable signal being the variant given the tv's overall great HD picture.

Thanks for your reply.

Of course PQ is subjective, wasn't questioning that in any case. For example I don't use the dynamic mode at all; it's a bit intense for my taste and skin tones are particularly affected. I use movie mode mostly, sometimes relax or standard for some commercial tv stuff like sports or sitcoms. Mostly I watch movies, though,via HD Directv, DVD, BD,as well as streaming. There are other settings that can be of influence, like color tone and film mode in the picture options menu when you're in dynamic, too, let alone the various other tweaks available in the menus.

You seem to want it much brighter than I do or perhaps due to your environment (bright room?). Like was said, calibration usually does not mix well with use of dynamic mode plus there's the expense vs. experimentation with the various general settings (or even using others' calibration settings like in this thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1333561 if you haven't checked that out).
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post #4769 of 5052
4/8/12 at 7:31am
I think I'm just going to return it to the seller, and not bother with Samsung attempting to look at it or repair it. While watching Lord of the Rings blu-ray, I noticed a constant flux in the brightness on the black bars on top/underneath the film. It was constantly bugging me, and when that goes with the loud noise, I figured I might as well return it and get the LED d8000 version, Un55d8000 (or possibly the 60 inch if I can find an affordable version). The thought of burn-in won't leave my mind, since I do a lot of 4:3 content viewing :/
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4/8/12 at 10:18am
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I think I'm just going to return it to the seller, and not bother with Samsung attempting to look at it or repair it. While watching Lord of the Rings blu-ray, I noticed a constant flux in the brightness on the black bars on top/underneath the film. It was constantly bugging me, and when that goes with the loud noise, I figured I might as well return it and get the LED d8000 version, Un55d8000 (or possibly the 60 inch if I can find an affordable version). The thought of burn-in won't leave my mind, since I do a lot of 4:3 content viewing :/

You might want to take a look here first http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1389562 but if the buzzing has persisted maybe not.
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