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post #4891 of 5097
Might require a new panel, but I wouldn't worry about it. Samsung seems to take these sorts of problems seriously when you're under warranty.
post #4892 of 5097
First time poster, so bear with me. I've been looking for a replacement for my Samsung 46" DLP set that's 8 years old. I primarily use the set for games, tv, sports, and movies (Blu-ray/streaming). I'm looking for something in the 60" to 64" range for around $2k, Magnolia has the 2011 D8000 for $2100. My questions are:

1. What are the main drawbacks for this set?
2. Are there any huge differences between the D8000 and D7000?
3. Is the stand sturdy enough?
4. Is a performance/warranty plan necessary?
5. What are the best 3D glasses for this set?
6. What's the best way to break in this set?
7. Any reasons to get the 2012 model?

Thanks in advance
post #4893 of 5097
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Originally Posted by AvidHiker View Post

Might require a new panel, but I wouldn't worry about it. Samsung seems to take these sorts of problems seriously when you're under warranty.

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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

My red remote light (in the lower left area of the panel frame) flashes only during startup, is on when in standby and off when viewing. Just like the manual says. (mine's the 59D8000 but shouldn't be any different?). That with buzzing I'd return it.

Thanks guys..
The buzz is there but I unless I focus on it, I concede that it isn't bugging me all the time, and I realise that my Kuro buzzes too.

As for the Red Light... hmmm, it's stopped... funny thing it is..
post #4894 of 5097
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Originally Posted by AgentCooper7 View Post

First time poster, so bear with me. I've been looking for a replacement for my Samsung 46" DLP set that's 8 years old. I primarily use the set for games, tv, sports, and movies (Blu-ray/streaming). I'm looking for something in the 60" to 64" range for around $2k, Magnolia has the 2011 D8000 for $2100. My questions are:

1. What are the main drawbacks for this set?
2. Are there any huge differences between the D8000 and D7000?
3. Is the stand sturdy enough?
4. Is a performance/warranty plan necessary?
5. What are the best 3D glasses for this set?
6. What's the best way to break in this set?
7. Any reasons to get the 2012 model?

Thanks in advance

Hi and welcome to AVS.
I have benefited from seniors here who shared loads of info with me, so I will try to do the same.
I was in your shoes not long ago.

- main issues:
Buzz, FBr, Peel, of which the buzz is the main thing now, with most of the rest resolved. The blacks are worse with cinema smooth engaged, but really, I don't notice it.
- 7000 vs 8000 PQ - the consensus is their PQ is about the same
- stand is ok, but not the most stable, not that you have choice for them... 8000 is worse
- IMO, I will get a 5 year warranty, given Samsung's rep on suspect capacitors and the buzz issue (you should search on this thread and others for more info on this)
- the performance of 3D glasses vary, others can answer this
- download D-Nice's slides (search for it on this forum) - there is a thread on this
- 2012 E series has better blacks (10%?), CS blacks issue fixed, and those internet / smart TV related functions plus some minor differences in no of HDMI, no VGA input, etc.

Good luck
post #4895 of 5097
what are people using to clean the screen without leaving residue?
post #4896 of 5097
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Originally Posted by MSchu18 View Post

what are people using to clean the screen without leaving residue?

A clean lens grade microfiber cloth. For more that dust, use distiled water to make the cloth slightly damp. After using the damp cloth, dry the screen, as you go, with a second clean cloth. You can get the right microfiber cloths at Amazon. Avoid any chemical based cleaning fluid and don't do any heavy scrubbing if your screen has any kind of coating on it.
post #4897 of 5097
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Originally Posted by petetherock View Post

Hi and welcome to AVS.
I have benefited from seniors here who shared loads of info with me, so I will try to do the same.
I was in your shoes not long ago.

- main issues:
Buzz, FBr, Peel, of which the buzz is the main thing now, with most of the rest resolved. The blacks are worse with cinema smooth engaged, but really, I don't notice it.
- 7000 vs 8000 PQ - the consensus is their PQ is about the same
- stand is ok, but not the most stable, not that you have choice for them... 8000 is worse
- IMO, I will get a 5 year warranty, given Samsung's rep on suspect capacitors and the buzz issue (you should search on this thread and others for more info on this)
- the performance of 3D glasses vary, others can answer this
- download D-Nice's slides (search for it on this forum) - there is a thread on this
- 2012 E series has better blacks (10%?), CS blacks issue fixed, and those internet / smart TV related functions plus some minor differences in no of HDMI, no VGA input, etc.

Good luck

How bad are the stands? Not that I will try and knock over, but is that the problem with them?
post #4898 of 5097
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Originally Posted by AgentCooper7 View Post

How bad are the stands? Not that I will try and knock over, but is that the problem with them?

I wall mounted mine, but there are remarks on the stability of the D8000 stands. It's wide but the front to back distance is not a lot, so if you have a narrow shelf / console there is some risk, especially if you have a small child.
post #4899 of 5097
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Originally Posted by AgentCooper7 View Post

How bad are the stands? Not that I will try and knock over, but is that the problem with them?

Yeah, the stand could be more stable but is fine for most people (can rock a bit when bumped, but will not topple unless really slammed). The D7000 and D8000 are essentially the same in terms of picture quality. If you go with a D series model, DO NOT UPGRADE YOUR FIRMWARE. Live with it for a week or so to see if you notice any brightness fluctuations. If you do, go here and install the firmware fix FIRST before using any current firmwares (if you don't, you may not be able to install the FBr fix):

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1389562
post #4900 of 5097
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

a clean lens grade microfiber cloth. For more that dust, use distiled water to make the cloth slightly damp. After using the damp cloth, dry the screen, as you go, with a second clean cloth. You can get the right microfiber cloths at amazon. Avoid any chemical based cleaning fluid and don't do any heavy scrubbing if your screen has any kind of coating on it.

tyvm
post #4901 of 5097
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Originally Posted by MSchu18 View Post

tyvm

post #4902 of 5097
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Originally Posted by AgentCooper7 View Post

How bad are the stands? Not that I will try and knock over, but is that the problem with them?

The splayed four legged variety on the D8000 is a large footprint and just plain fugly; it's not that it's not stable particularly but it's not confidence inspiring either; it can tilt slightly if you don't mount it correctly to the panel, and some apparently even had a problem after proper mounting. The pedestal stand of previous models was better IMHO, cleaner looking smaller footprint and more stable.
post #4903 of 5097
So I need suggestions. My 64d8k has what appears to be cracks in the clear part of the bezel.

I think it had something to do with the snap crackle pop I hear,and have heard since I bought it. In the manual it mentions this as normal sounds of the set " settling in" or something along those lines.

Should I be concerned and try to have it repaired?
post #4904 of 5097
So is the new filter really worse to maintain black levels in bright room and rejecting reflections? 64D8000 is getting pretty cheap and im interested to buy one instead of e-series, but im worried about the missing changed real black filter :/
post #4905 of 5097
Need advice on the pn59d8000. I keep reading about issues in this forum and not many positive remarks. Is the d8000 a good product? Will it be as good or better than my c8000? I am about to purchase the tv from Crutchfield but don't want a tv that I will have to return. This will be my 3rd try at a tv. I first tried an open box from Best Buy a un60es6100 (hated the picture). Then Tried the Sharp 60" quatro (hate it less but still don't like the picture:confused:). Will I be happier with the D8000? Please advise.
post #4906 of 5097
The picture is fabulous, I have 2, and they don't buzz. The blacks are stellar and the whole unit works well my my Directv , Blurays & Popcorn Hour A300
post #4907 of 5097
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Originally Posted by mitchr3242 View Post

Need advice on the pn59d8000. I keep reading about issues in this forum and not many positive remarks. Is the d8000 a good product?

You'll generally see more negative issues highlighted in a forum like this. Read the CNET reviews, I've found them to be accurate and then go look at displays if possible. I can recommend the D8000, I think the picture quality on this display is the best of the 2011 crop, but that's only one opinion. Each brand has minor drawbacks and whether those drawbacks turn you off or not you won't know until you spend a couple of weeks with it.
post #4908 of 5097
Thanks for the feedback. I have seen the pn64e8000 at a local Best Buy and the loop they were running seemed very dark. Someone at work who owns the a pn64d8000 told me that Samsung cut back on the brightness for this year's model to comply with energy star. Not sure if that is a true statement or not but my biggest concern is brightness. This person did tell me that the d8000s are brighter than the e8000s. Any thoughts on this?
post #4909 of 5097
I too can recommend the D 8000. I have the 51 incher. No buzz, no problems whatsoever. I am not a fan of the claw looking stand but it does swivel. All in all I am very pleased with Samsung D8000. smile.gif
post #4910 of 5097
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post


I see this on their website for USB update only for 1026.0/1026.1 (says 1026.0 but then has 10261 in the body of the description):


10261. Title Firmware for PDP TV D8000 series.(ver 1026.0)2. Applicable Model 51D8000FF, 59D8000FF, 64D8000FF3. Carrier or Corporate Customer all customers4. Description - MLB.TV apps upgrade (server changing)


- This firmware enhances security.


- This firmware can be available Amazon app.


- This firmware will decrease flickering problem on 3D mode. (only 3D model)

- Change the way to get out of Store Demo Mode - Change the type of information of Info banner - Prevent escaping issue when pressing volume button on video apps(Netflix, Vudu, etc) - Support Remote Service - Support Netflix 3.1

All OS Apr 5, 2012


I'm on 1024 myself and may try this later if it enables the Amazon app, but I don't see that it addresses your concern. Try asking Samsung?

Just curious, do you know why it is only available as a USB upgrade and not ethernet (online)?

I too have been waiting for Amazon (now that I permanently hooked up a Sony streaming blu-ray player to my TV.smile.gif )
post #4911 of 5097
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

Just curious, do you know why it is only available as a USB upgrade and not ethernet (online)?
I too have been waiting for Amazon (now that I permanently hooked up a Sony streaming blu-ray player to my TV.smile.gif )

No, I don't. Think my avr also indicated usb updates only but then updated just fine over the net. Just be sure to copy your settings if you update either way.

I found Amazon app on my PS3 so went that way....went through their Prime/free content that I hadn't seen yet pretty quick, tho.
post #4912 of 5097
Hello, I have a 64d8000 it about one year and 2 months old and has about 200-300 hours on it. Today I want to watch a movie and the hdmi inputs do not seem to be working. Tried all of them nothing but tv and pc still work. Any idea on what to do? Thanks smile.gif
post #4913 of 5097
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Originally Posted by Nemesis1979 View Post

Hello, I have a 64d8000 it about one year and 2 months old and has about 200-300 hours on it. Today I want to watch a movie and the hdmi inputs do not seem to be working. Tried all of them nothing but tv and pc still work. Any idea on what to do? Thanks smile.gif

So you cycled through the source options and only the pc and tv inputs are active? Did you try unplugging the tv and letting it reset for 10 seconds or so then plugging it back in? I assume you did check the actual HDMI connections on the tv and source unit?
post #4914 of 5097
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Originally Posted by mitchr3242 View Post

Need advice on the pn59d8000. I keep reading about issues in this forum and not many positive remarks. Is the d8000 a good product? Will it be as good or better than my c8000? I am about to purchase the tv from Crutchfield but don't want a tv that I will have to return. This will be my 3rd try at a tv. I first tried an open box from Best Buy a un60es6100 (hated the picture). Then Tried the Sharp 60" quatro (hate it less but still don't like the picture:confused:). Will I be happier with the D8000? Please advise.

I had the C8000 also, and in my opinion that model had 3 times more issues than the D8000. The D8000 is brighter, sharper with better whites and blacks, you'll notice a dramatic improvement right out of the box and with calibration { yours and pro.} it gets better. I've had mine for almost 10 months and I'll sometimes go a couple of days without watching it and when i finally get the time ... it blows me away sometimes even sends chills up my back, never felt that with the C8000.
AGAIN, just my opinion... I've seen and toyed with this years model {E8000} and for me the D8000 still holds the crown, G o F o r I t !!!
Edited by Dizazter68 - 7/19/12 at 10:48pm
post #4915 of 5097
what picture setting gives you the most screen image?
when on regular cable I only have 4:3, and 16:9... for blurays I seem to also get Just Scan.

currently I use just scan over 16:9 because it seems to offer a tad more image, on cable the 16:9 setting seems to cut off the top and bottom of the image on non HD broadcasts. I really do not get the option of other settings, they are grayed out.
post #4916 of 5097
WOW! - So ive had my 51inch for 6 months now, No burn in, No buzzing at any time, ITs our main TV for everyday and Movie viewing so it gets lots of hours. I was carefull with usage for the first few months. I work as a photographer so I very picky about tonal range and colour reproduction, I did the calibration myself, took me around 30 minutes of minor tweaks, my brother in law is a firm Panasonic owner always buys their best product he was blown away with the quality. I also have a samsung tablet the streaming and controlling features are great, I can go out in the back yard watch any source while the family is playing on the wii or watching a movie. The 3D option is great especially something like IMMORTALS. Im running video via the OPPO 93 and audio as 7.1 via a pioneer amp , OPPO is doing the audio decoding, video goes direct to the Monitor. I also use a Belkin AV current controller, it looks great and makes a big difference with cable signals (very visible change on my SD Toshiba LCD) I think I have used every connection and feature possible, I have a Hard drive hooked up and use several of the apps such as the YOUTube streamer, audio direct from the TV goes out via the optical out to a yamaha receiver. I also use the DLNA with my ipad/laptop for direct streaming. So far ive not found any issues with any of the features. Ill post some pictures of my set up if I get a chance. It took me a couple of months to decide to purchase as I was concerned about some of the issues but its performed perfectly - got it from Best Buy with the help of a gift voucher.
post #4917 of 5097
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

So you cycled through the source options and only the pc and tv inputs are active? Did you try unplugging the tv and letting it reset for 10 seconds or so then plugging it back in? I assume you did check the actual HDMI connections on the tv and source unit?

Yes I checked the hdmi connections and even tried different hdmi cables. Plus I tried all the hdmi inputs and nothing, then I unplugged the tv like you said and it worked! Thank you, but it's odd thing to happen I hope something in the tv isn't about to quit lol
post #4918 of 5097
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Originally Posted by Nemesis1979 View Post

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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

So you cycled through the source options and only the pc and tv inputs are active? Did you try unplugging the tv and letting it reset for 10 seconds or so then plugging it back in? I assume you did check the actual HDMI connections on the tv and source unit?

Yes I checked the hdmi connections and even tried different hdmi cables. Plus I tried all the hdmi inputs and nothing, then I unplugged the tv like you said and it worked! Thank you, but it's odd thing to happen I hope something in the tv isn't about to quit lol

It's always a good thing to try with complex electronics/computers to let them do a cold reset like that...
post #4919 of 5097
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I found a picture of an intact D8000 credit to member Zoyd


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This is how mine came

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Looks like I have
LOGIC CONTROL
X-MAIN BOARD
Y Main Board

I need
MAIN BOARD
POWER SUPPLY
Bluetooth Module
SPEAKERS
LVDS Cable
Remote

I don't have a cabinet (plastic samsung front and back) but plan on doing a custom border.
I don't have the mount nor the stand but I plan on mounting it on the wall. (I believe the mounting holes are on the actual screen?)

Question 1: Can someone please tell me if I need anything else for this tv to work?

Question 2: Also what makes it a D8000 vs a D7000? is it just the main board?

Question 3: Where in this pic is the Bluetooth installed?

Question 4: If i was to buy the bezel (front and back) and stand mount Any suggestions on where I can get it?
thank you in advance
Edited by trinimd - 7/20/12 at 11:19pm
post #4920 of 5097
Anybody using the 1026 firmware yet that can tell me where I can find the Amazon app? Upgraded via USB and looked high and low but alas, no Amazon app that I can see (widgets, yahoo, etc..). Wondering if I somehow have to download it from somewhere (where?).

Anyone?

Thanks!
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