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post #421 of 978
1/23/12 at 12:54pm
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Originally Posted by ricwhite View Post

Can anyone recommend a good USB hub that plugs in to an outlet that has enough power to charge these Monster 3D glasses. I bought this one from amazon and after 24 hours, the glasses were still not charged. I can't tell by reading the descriptions of the hubs whether they will charge the glasses or not. If someone has personal knowledge of one that works, please let me know. Thanks.

Oh great I just bought this one also to try and charge my Optoma RFs. I thought 500mA would be enough.
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post #422 of 978
1/23/12 at 5:35pm
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Originally Posted by derek View Post

Oh great I just bought this one also to try and charge my Optoma RFs. I thought 500mA would be enough.

I went ahead and purchased the Monster iSlimCharger - which is the one recommended in the Monster 3d glasses manual. It is only a single charger, so I guess I'll have to rotate charge my 4 pairs of glasses. The other one just didn't work. I plugged my glasses in my computer USB and the glasses were charged in a few hours, but I need a charger for the theater room.

Here is a link to the Monster charger.
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post #423 of 978
1/28/12 at 9:35pm
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Originally Posted by getchevyn View Post

It's on the bottom of this page. The adjustment software is in the "firmware" download.

http://www.monstercable.com/max3d/default.asp

need some help here.. i got multiple "update failures" and even after i got a firmware update confirmation, the process to get the glasses updated seems like it's stuck and i can't get the emitter to do anything but have the middle red light lit up...it can't transmit 3d right now it seems.

PS - i've tried the factory reset via pressing the left joystick - not working. i think i bricked my emitter trying to update it :-(
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post #424 of 978
1/29/12 at 10:18am
i see that a couple of other people earlier in this thread had the same "red LED stuck in the middle" problem after trying to upgrade the firmware. a fix was mentioned to exist but wasn't described. thsnks in advance!!
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post #425 of 978
1/29/12 at 1:57pm
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Originally Posted by oleus View Post

need some help here.. i got multiple "update failures" and even after i got a firmware update confirmation, the process to get the glasses updated seems like it's stuck and i can't get the emitter to do anything but have the middle red light lit up...it can't transmit 3d right now it seems.

PS - i've tried the factory reset via pressing the left joystick - not working. i think i bricked my emitter trying to update it :-(

I have several extra emitters and I have done the update on several. On the first one I had a freeze and was able to do the update on the second try. You might want to try it again.
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post #426 of 978
1/29/12 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

I have several extra emitters and I have done the update on several. On the first one I had a freeze and was able to do the update on the second try. You might want to try it again.

i've tried dozens of times - i get constant "update failed" notices after the green bar fills up a bit...sometimes it instantly says "firmware update complete - please remove usb from emitter and plug back in" but the emitter is still stuck in update mode (middle red light stuck on). i left it off overnight and tried again a few times today, same result.

way earlier in the thread a couple of other people had the same issue and while a fix was mentioned it was not described or followed up on with the people describing the issue.

it won't flash on when a 3d signal is sent to the projector with it hooked in, all i get is the one red light :-( tried the factory reset option (holding joysick to the left for ten seconds) - nothing
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post #427 of 978
1/29/12 at 4:40pm
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Originally Posted by oleus View Post

i've tried dozens of times - i get constant "update failed" notices after the green bar fills up a bit...sometimes it instantly says "firmware update complete - please remove usb from emitter and plug back in" but the emitter is still stuck in update mode (middle red light stuck on). i left it off overnight and tried again a few times today, same result.

way earlier in the thread a couple of other people had the same issue and while a fix was mentioned it was not described or followed up on with the people describing the issue.

it won't flash on when a 3d signal is sent to the projector with it hooked in, all i get is the one red light :-( tried the factory reset option (holding joysick to the left for ten seconds) - nothing

Wow, it really sounds that you might have a bad emitter. Contact Monster and they will probably send you a new one. If you are unsuccessful PM me.
next week. I may be able to help you.
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post #428 of 978
1/29/12 at 4:41pm
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

Wow, it really sounds that you might have a bad emitter. Contact Monster and they will probably send you a new one. If you are unsuccessful PM me.
next week. I may be able to help you.

thanks, i appreciate that.

i'll contact monster tomorrow and see if i have any replacement options.
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post #429 of 978
2/2/12 at 1:23pm
Anyone know if the latest firmware from Monster is still 1.05.04 as of at least a few months ago, or has it been updated?
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post #430 of 978
2/2/12 at 4:05pm
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Originally Posted by lovingdvd View Post

Anyone know if the latest firmware from Monster is still 1.05.04 as of at least a few months ago, or has it been updated?

This one is the latest.
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post #431 of 978
2/2/12 at 7:07pm
These glasses are fantastic! So much better than Xpand and ViewSonic! I am so happy with this purchase. Now if I could disable DLP Link on my Samsung TV....
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post #432 of 978
2/3/12 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by derek View Post

I have the Optoma RF version of the glasses and did some testing with my new Optoma GT750 projector. I was noticing ghosting to the level where I did not expect with the Optoma DLP. At first I thought I would need to tune the glasses/emitter combo. I'm using their 'default' configuration right out of box which I assume is already set for optimum Optima DLP use. What I found is that the lenses need to be as parallel as possible to the screen and your eye's viewing path as perpendicular to the lenses for optimum ghosting and color performance. I was somewhat 'reclining' in my seat and as the lens became less parallel to the screen the ghosting increases. This sucks for using a recliner...so I tilted the frames downward a bit...the frame handles lifted off my ears...but the ghosting decreases and disappears. However the other artifact is that the picture darkens a bit (with a somewhat green tint.) This I attribute to my eye's viewing angle now hitting the lens at a less than perpendicular angle causing more light loss/polarization.
If anyone is using Bit Cauldron type glasses with Optoma projectors did you find a need to tune them out of the box?

Just noticed this post! Not sure if you figured it out but if you increase the duty cycle to a little greater than 100% you can eliminate the color shift as you move your head. I have the original emitter firmware that came from VIP and the default settings i believe is 105% and that worked perfectly with my Acer H5360 DLP. If I reduced it to 100% it was like you said. Color shifting as you turn your head. So not sure if other resellers including Monster use a 105% duty cycle default. It may be as high as 107 I would need to check it but make the adjustment as you watch something in 3D and increase duty cycle until the color shifting goes away. Below 100% will get worse because you are reducing the amount of time one color is flashed up on the screen. Remember there is a rotating color wheel so reducing duty cycle means you are reducing the amout of time one color is displayed.

Ron
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post #433 of 978
2/3/12 at 6:26pm
I just got these and I have to say that while I really love how lightweight they are, it just didn't get much better for me than that. I played with the adjustments and just couldn't really improve on the ghosting enough without compromising the brightness. Also I wasn't a fan of the buzzing sound from the glasses in my ear or the brightness pulsing that I noticed when I had paused the movie. These are going to most likely get sent back.
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post #434 of 978
2/3/12 at 6:36pm
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Originally Posted by brahby View Post

I just got these and I have to say that while I really love how lightweight they are, it just didn't get much better for me than that. I played with the adjustments and just couldn't really improve on the ghosting enough without compromising the brightness. Also I wasn't a fan of the buzzing sound from the glasses in my ear or the brightness pulsing that I noticed when I had paused the movie. These are going to most likely get sent back.

That's the trick...reduce duty cycle so that you don't see ghosting. At least on everything but DLP. Its a compromise between ghosting and brightness. You will just have to live with the glasses that came with your TV or go DLP. Simply amazing how good DLP looks with 3D material.
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post #435 of 978
2/10/12 at 2:07am
I just order the glasses+emitter kit on Amazon. Price is substantially reduced below retail. Is Monster blowing these out for some reason? I also noticed it's not very easy to find a pair of glasses on their own for purchase. Just the kits...
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post #436 of 978
2/10/12 at 4:33am
It does seem that Monster is getting out of the 3d Glasses business. They did not display them at CEDIA or at CES. When I asked why the rep told me that there were too many issues with different 3d formats. He also told me that they are still selling those in stocks.
It also seems that they are reducing the price to sell them out. They are a great buy for the price they are selling at on Amazon at this time.
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post #437 of 978
2/11/12 at 3:55pm
I'll bet there were way more support issues and their associated costs than Monster wanted to put up with. Also Optoma is selling the same glasses and transmitter for less money, undercutting this part of their business.
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post #438 of 978
2/12/12 at 5:11am
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Originally Posted by Rolls-Royce View Post

I'll bet there were way more support issues and their associated costs than Monster wanted to put up with. Also Optoma is selling the same glasses and transmitter for less money, undercutting this part of their business.

The MSP price for the Optoma is less but the price price on Amazon for the Monster glasses with the transmitter is much lower than Optoma's price. I have never seen them for less. I would suggest using Amazon and select Trade Point and the company to buy them from. I got them in two days.

http://www.amazon.com/MonsterVision-...9052172&sr=8-1
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post #439 of 978
2/12/12 at 5:54am
So is anyone in need or interested in just the RF emitter? I just need another pair of glasses. So if anyone is interested, we can work out the cost difference for just the emitter. Maybe split the cost in half? I'll buy the kit and send the emitter out to whom ever wants to do this.

Thought I would put it out there...
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post #440 of 978
2/12/12 at 6:44am
^^^

i've got a spare emitter sitting around doing nothing... drop me a pm...

edit: oops, you want the glasses not the emitter... not enough coffee yet...
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post #441 of 978
2/12/12 at 7:37am
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Originally Posted by oleus View Post

i've tried dozens of times - i get constant "update failed" notices after the green bar fills up a bit...sometimes it instantly says "firmware update complete - please remove usb from emitter and plug back in" but the emitter is still stuck in update mode (middle red light stuck on). i left it off overnight and tried again a few times today, same result.

way earlier in the thread a couple of other people had the same issue and while a fix was mentioned it was not described or followed up on with the people describing the issue.

it won't flash on when a 3d signal is sent to the projector with it hooked in, all i get is the one red light :-( tried the factory reset option (holding joysick to the left for ten seconds) - nothing


Your stuck in update mode because of the various differences in USB controllers and the software update was written for high throughput. Some controllers will not handle it and also make sure you don't have any other USB devices connected but the mouse and keyboard during update. Wireless USB dongles can interrupt the transfer.

The 3DVIP Theater threads make mention of that issue and it was corrected in the firmware written for those RF glasses but apparently not for Monster. The VIP firmware was deliberately slowed down for transfer to fix that issue. Unfortunately using another private labeled firmware could possibly cause an issue with Monster even though they are the same glasses. But that would only be an issue if the emitter was returned to Monster in my opinion.
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post #442 of 978
2/12/12 at 7:55am
For any of you wondering what the monster 3d glasses look like after you have sat on them!




Doh!, I do like these glasses seem to get a lot lesss eyestrain than the ones that came with my HW30..
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post #443 of 978
2/12/12 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

The MSP price for the Optoma is less but the price price on Amazon for the Monster glasses with the transmitter is much lower than Optoma's price. I have never seen them for less. I would suggest using Amazon and select Trade Point and the company to buy them from. I got them in two days.

http://www.amazon.com/MonsterVision-...9052172&sr=8-1

This is a relatively recent development, I think. I was looking for more glasses a few months ago and at that time the Monster glasses were selling everywhere for MSRP or close to it. The Optomas were advertised for less, but no one had them in stock until a bit later. I ended up holding out for the Optomas, and I'm glad I did.
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post #444 of 978
2/12/12 at 9:50am
Do the optima glasses work with the monster transmitter?
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post #445 of 978
2/12/12 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by boulders View Post

Do the optima glasses work with the monster transmitter?

yes, they are the same glasses just with Optoma branding on them. and the new low prices on the monstervisions are about in line with what i paid for the Optoma rf's in september (i already need two more, scratched one par and had a cleaning mishap with the other!).
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post #446 of 978
2/12/12 at 1:07pm
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Originally Posted by SgtVideo View Post

Your stuck in update mode because of the various differences in USB controllers and the software update was written for high throughput. Some controllers will not handle it and also make sure you don't have any other USB devices connected but the mouse and keyboard during update. Wireless USB dongles can interrupt the transfer.

The 3DVIP Theater threads make mention of that issue and it was corrected in the firmware written for those RF glasses but apparently not for Monster. The VIP firmware was deliberately slowed down for transfer to fix that issue. Unfortunately using another private labeled firmware could possibly cause an issue with Monster even though they are the same glasses. But that would only be an issue if the emitter was returned to Monster in my opinion.

Try turning off the firewall. I have several transmitters and have had no problem doing the update. The other VIP firmware would probably work and I doubt that Monster would even check for it. They are selling the glasses out and would probably just send you a replacement.
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post #447 of 978
2/12/12 at 1:11pm
Will the optima glasses work fine with the monster kit? I'm assuming so, just want to be sure.
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post #448 of 978
2/12/12 at 1:14pm
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

Try turning off the firewall. I have several transmitters and have had no problem doing the update. The other VIP firmware would probably work and I doubt that Monster would even check for it. They are selling the glasses out and would probably just send you a replacement.

the VIP firmware worked perfectly for my Optoma/Monster emitter FYI
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post #449 of 978
2/12/12 at 1:16pm
[quote=oleus;21635229]the VIP firmware worked perfectly for my Optoma/Monster emitter FYI[/QUOTE

It seems that the VIP is newer firmware than the Monster it has a later number.
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post #450 of 978
2/13/12 at 12:51pm
Would anyone please report whether these glasses have successfully reduced crosstalk. This is the only concern I have with the 3D from my un55c8000. it's a 2010 model and crosstalk is a factor in my enjoyment of 3D. I've found little comment on this aspect of these glasses, maybe it's because there is no benefit.
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