Canon HF G10, XA10, XF100, XF105 Owners Thread - Page 73

Thanks for the info Dave, interesting !

Don't let that walking video get ya down. Do some real tests, for me that means shooting a moving scene on a tripod, and then watching that video very closely, if you are a pro and make money from walking with a camcorder, then you really should invest in a steadicam sort of gizmo.

Over on the www.hv20.com there is a guy from Italy trying to sell his gear, it's called the SturdyCam, it's in its infancy, but has potential, the video shot on his homemade gizmo is very impressive, however there are nicer options out there. using one of these gizmos makes the video like you shot, look like you were standing still, or better yet just flying over the scene, like in a dream, it really is THAT smooth.

If you are a pro though, you would have bought a $4,000 camera, so I'm thinking this is for home use, and if it is, really do some tests that are 100% fair to the camera.

Ok watching all the clips now back at work the reason I noticed it more on the right side is that the right side of the lens itself curves the image up and out at the top whereas the left side doesn't. The dynamic OIS accentuates this and that's why to me it gives the impression that the image is warping, pulsing on the top right. Shooting straight lines in times square like lampposts showed a slight bend in at the top left which is to be expected with a WA lens but interestingly the line actually curved up and outwards on the top right.
Since I am at work and can't upload anything, I drew what I saw, forgive the crappy artwork but what I saw was a straight line was indeed straight in the center, curved slightly in when on left side of frame, (normal and expected for WA lens) but curved slightly outwards at the top when on the right. When IS is off, virtually unnoticeable unless you are looking for it but when dynamic IS is engaged, to me the distortion moves and pulses do bothersome.

Yes. Completely disappears when zoomed in which implies even more that it is primarily the lens.

Lol. Don't want to say Dave is a pro or not but you might have not read all of this tread. If you have seen some of his music videos he has done with his $4k Sony nx5x and Sony 550 his video is pro to me, he does great work.

Zippo, no worries. I am not attacking the cam and I actually am mostly very pleased with it. I am a freelance shooter who does do pro level projects and own a nx5u which is $3899 so I do take this seriously. I own a hacked gh1 too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTOevewlP-E

I just did a massive project for Columbia University that had public screenings on campus and has been seen by thousands.

I have to be honest and say , no I have not read all of the thread. I had no idea that Dave was doing high end stuff. I guess the quesiton I have to ask is, why would he want to even spend time on a toy LOL, if he's using 4K video cameras ! :-) take that as a joke, I'm laughing as I say it.

I'm guessing Dave wants a camera to play with, take family video with, that doesn't need to be 20 lbs, BUT... he wants super great quality, and THAT, I totally understand.

So yes, now I know where he's coming from, well said, point taken and now, I'm off to eat some jello :-) I seem to have it all over my face

lol

Zippo, no worries. Honestly the image quality on this is really excellent. I always shoot with 2 cameras and I don't need two full blown pro cams with xlr inputs so the canon looks like a perfect "b" cam for me as it also shoots 30p which is what I use on the nx5u most of the time. (unfortunately I had to shoot the Columbia project at 60i as they wanted SD DVDs made and it was easier that way. The 30p is wrapped in a 60i container but after properly changing the file properties in my editor and dropping it a 30p timeline looks perfect. When I have shot with my cx550 in 60i mode and rendered it to 30p there was slight ghosting during fast movement.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCKXopl_naM

In this promo clip I just edited I did mix the 2. The camera that is going the panning, zooming and closeups is my nx5u shooting at native 30p and the stationary wide shot is the cx550 shooting at 60i. They mix pretty well together but the motion is more solid, less smeary to me on the nx5u. With the canon I should have both cams having the same look.

YLK, some have reported that if you are using Dynamic OIS, then yes, a bit of zoom can solve the problem in those cams that have it.

thank you. will look into it...

Your serial number is from a second batch as far as I can tell.

My serial begins with 46223, yours 46224.

i dont see any power cable that will operate zoom and record on and off on the opteka site. is it a separate part?

It's not my opteka x-grip. I was using this...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ip_Tripod.html


I shot the handheld studio shots in this video with it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrW1RmCwq7Q

Comes with a non lanc proprietary Sony cable that runs the cx550 and other similar model's zoom and record functions. If I sell the Sony I'm selling this too.

I have a total of 4 stabilizer/grip thingies. One is this, one is the opteka x-grip...

http://opteka.com/xgrip.aspx

Which I think is better as it had a shoe on top to attach a light or zoom audio recorder which is how I record bands in clubs. And what I used to shoot this clip...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tnoly0KFCo

I also have a counterweight stabilizer which I used once and didn't really work for me as I don't have the time usually on a shoot to correctly set the balance.

And my fave which is a Halorig HD


http://www.halorig.com/index.php/hal...tabilizer-shop


that I shot this clip with...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGfvsQuBdXg

Coupled with the cx550 active IS, practically like a steadicam.

wow! think i like the sony one now to justify $70 bucks more of craziness..

Beware that the Sony one will only work with the little Sony cams as the connector is a Sony only connector. You can get a pistol grip similar to it without the electronic control for a lot less.

i was gonna say.. was already ready to order and had doubts if itll work on the G10 but i thought i saw you using the G10 on the picture from previous post.

i like the electronic control since i seem to have a problem reaching for the zoom controls on these types of video cameras (M41, G10). maybe i have a small hand (NOT!) or i have the grip belt too tight.

Yeah it would be very overpriced if it were a simple grip without any controls. I think someone here at avs has one without.

firefox won't open that link, it opens up a webpage with a bunch of videos but each video will not play, firefox says it doesn't know how to handle the links.. strange.

if that was a link to a youtube video, a specific video, it didn't work.

http://www.jr.com/polaroid/pe/POL_PLTRIG/

Voila, $12

Whoops. iPhone madness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=FCKXopl_naM

How's this?

Check out this video from the Frugal Filmmaker,

he shows another version of this pistol grip that turns into a
tripod. He got it for about $10 off eBay Vivitar model.
he starts showing it about about 5 mins into the film.

http://youtu.be/AQPtBeBvk54

me want electronic control...

Yep very similar to the Polaroid one for $12.

You'd need to find one with a lanc controller as I believe the g10 uses lanc.

will this work?
http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__EBENK...oduct/sv=title

[quote=Dave Mack;20426872]It's not my opteka x-grip. I was using this...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ip_Tripod.html

Dave,

I just ordered that Grip! Still justing my CX-150 Sony for now.

Just curious as I might have missed it, are you keeping the HF G10 or sending it back?