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post #4081 of 4133
Thread Starter 
I've decided to sell my Canon HF G10 along with 2 original Canon BP-819 batteries.
Does anyone have an idea of the value. They still are selling for $1,499 on Best Buy but they do go on sale for around $1,300.
Thanks
post #4082 of 4133
Hiya Steve, it's been $1299 at bhphoto for many months now.

Whatever you do, do NOT sell it on amazon!

I just sold my big nx5u camcorder that I do all my freelance shooting with (in order to upgrade) for $3600 on amazon last month, they took their nice $280 cut, then they initiated their "account review" and told me they would hold my funds until the 30 day review was over. Even though i've sold for a couple of years and never had a return or a negative feedback.

Apparently if you only sell small stuff, this doesn't usually happen but if you get a lot of returns or pass about the $800 mark, they automatically do this. Three days before the review was up, they "suspended" my account and told me it would be an additional 15 days.

I emailed them, spoke on the phone, sent my tracking number info, (buyer received the camera three and a 1/2 weeks ago and I have proof) all useless. I have googled this and it seems they do this to almost everyone at some point. They can then close your seller account and keep your money for 90 days, (in case the buyer decides he is unhappy with the item, he actually gets 90 days) and then if wants a refund, they will give him one and he doesn't even have to send the camera back!! There are some horror stories.


http://www.ripoffreport.com/internet...-blo-7c286.htm

http://amazonstolemymoney.blogspot.c...max-results=50

So I am out the money best case another few weeks, worse case, 2 more months or absolute WORST case if the buyer wants a refund and doesn't ship it back.
post #4083 of 4133
Thread Starter 
Wow that kinda sucks if you sell it on Amazon. I have it up for sale on Craigslist with the 2 BP-819 batteries for $1,100.
CL people always talk you down so I figure I might get $1k for it at least I hope so.
Thanks for the heads u about Amazon. I will be sure not to sell through them.
post #4084 of 4133
I can hear interviews I recorded with a handheld mic on videos edited in iMovie and uploaded to YouTube only if I watch the YouTube video on a Mac or PC.

If I try to access the videos via YouTube on my iPhone or iPad, I can hear the nat sound recorded with the video camera but I can't hear the interviews recorded with a handheld mic. This is a problem for my videos when I watch them in YouTube's app and via several browsers on the iPad and iPhone.

What is causing this problem? Is there a workaround or solution?

I am using a Canon HF G10 video camera and either a Shure handheld mic or an Electro-Voice 635A handheld mic.

Thanks.
post #4085 of 4133
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Cebu View Post

I've decided to sell my Canon HF G10 along with 2 original Canon BP-819 batteries.
Does anyone have an idea of the value. They still are selling for $1,499 on Best Buy but they do go on sale for around $1,300.
Thanks


Steve,

What are you going for next?
post #4086 of 4133
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blasst View Post

Steve,

What are you going for next?

x2

Bill
post #4087 of 4133
Thread Starter 
I'm actually not going for anything.
I'm still out of work and my wife's hours have been cut in half and we lost her health insurance.

We've sold a lot of stuff already including her car and a lot of her gym equipment. The camcorder isn't as much a priority as paying the bills.

I'm keeping the Canon S95 but that is crap for video.

I'm hoping things change for the better after the election.
post #4088 of 4133
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Cebu View Post

I'm still out of work and my wife's hours have been cut in half and we lost her health insurance.

We've sold a lot of stuff already including her car and a lot of her gym equipment.

I am so sorry. I wish I knew how to help or offer encouragement.

My job evaporated as part of the economic burst, but I was ready for retirement and am OK.

One of my son's was shoved out of construction work. After a couple years he got a job in coffee warehouse and hates it. He has three little kids.

For the 8 out of 10 still working, it might be OK. But for the other 2, it is miserable.

Best...
Bill
post #4089 of 4133
Thread Starter 
Thanks Bill, I appreciate the sentiment.
NH has low unemployment because they make it very difficult to get unemployment in the first place and then they will literally do anything to get you off of it, including lying.

Hopefully things will pickup for us and your son and all the other people that are out of work.
post #4090 of 4133
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Cebu View Post

Thanks Bill, I appreciate the sentiment.
NH has low unemployment because they make it very difficult to get unemployment in the first place and then they will literally do anything to get you off of it, including lying.

Hopefully things will pickup for us and your son and all the other people that are out of work.

Years ago, I was canned by a company that was taken over by "Christians" because I wasn't one. A year later it went into bankruptcy. I spent 18 months in such a state of depression that my wife was ready to get rid of me.

I had a friend that called me every couple of weeks and insisted that the "cream would always rise to the top". Then, through "networking", I landed the greatest job anyone could ever have. Every work day was a play day and they paid me lots of money.

Keep at it! It's hidden, but you'll find it.

Bill
post #4091 of 4133
Thread Starter 
Thanks Bill
post #4092 of 4133
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Cebu View Post

I'm actually not going for anything.
I'm still out of work and my wife's hours have been cut in half and we lost her health insurance.

We've sold a lot of stuff already including her car and a lot of her gym equipment. The camcorder isn't as much a priority as paying the bills.

I'm keeping the Canon S95 but that is crap for video.

I'm hoping things change for the better after the election.

sorry to hear your predicament BAY, hopefully things will work fine with you and your family.
post #4093 of 4133
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboygelo View Post

sorry to hear your predicament BAY, hopefully things will work fine with you and your family.


Thanks
I appreciate that.
If only we could retire now, we'd be back in the Philippines.
post #4094 of 4133
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Cebu View Post

Thanks
I appreciate that.
If only we could retire now, we'd be back in the Philippines.

NOW that will be a great IDEA.. you're retirement pension will sure go a LONG WAY adto didto...
post #4095 of 4133
Hi guys, many months, without posting here, but I have a question.

I'm trying to get shots a little more smooth. I am always shooting in manual mode at 1/60th shutter speed ( Canon XA10 ) , last night I did some test footage of some slow panning at 1/1000 th shutter speed thinking perhaps it would create some smoother footage, but it did not. ---------- If I wanted smoother footage with my Canon 60D, I would switch down to 720p and shoot at 60 fps, but since we can't do that with the Canon XA10, I thought increasing the shutter would do it, it didn't. Is there a way to accomplish this ? I am guessing not, but thought I would ask Thanks for any info.
post #4096 of 4133
Thread Starter 
Can you define smoother?

Are you using a tripod and want a smoother pan or is the video jittery?
Faster shutter would be great for action shots and that is what I (rarely) use it for. but it's not going to make it smoother.

In photography/videography smooth can have a lot of varied meanings.
post #4097 of 4133
Our right wing government is destroying things too even petrol[gas] costs a fortune if you can get it,so its nice to talk cams even if you cant afford them.
post #4098 of 4133
wow, talk about multi-tasking ! never even thought of something like this,
really cool !


Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboygelo View Post

can somebody tell me what kind of mount was used and where to get it?

i plan to mount my HFG10 and a77

thanks.
post #4099 of 4133
Hi Steve,

sorry, I meant more frames per second.

If I want to go from 30 fps with my Canon 60d I have to reduce the quality from 1080p down to 720p. I thought perhaps this was possible with the XA10.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Cebu View Post

Can you define smoother?

Are you using a tripod and want a smoother pan or is the video jittery?
Faster shutter would be great for action shots and that is what I (rarely) use it for. but it's not going to make it smoother.

In photography/videography smooth can have a lot of varied meanings.
post #4100 of 4133
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zippo2008 View Post

Hi Steve,

sorry, I meant more frames per second.

If I want to go from 30 fps with my Canon 60d I have to reduce the quality from 1080p down to 720p. I thought perhaps this was possible with the XA10.


I just step up my shutter speed and so far I've had no problems with my HF G10 but I only use the faster shutter for action shots like my wife exercising.
So far it works pretty good.
post #4101 of 4133
Morning Steve,

LOL, I'm not really sure what "I've had no problems" means. I guess this will make footage a bit more smooth for action video segments, but I have a feeling it doesn't actually increase the frames per seconds ( ? ) that the video camera is taking. What did you mean by that though ? I am not understanding what you meant.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Cebu View Post

I just step up my shutter speed and so far I've had no problems with my HF G10 but I only use the faster shutter for action shots like my wife exercising.
So far it works pretty good.
post #4102 of 4133
on a quick note - I DO notice that if I put my XA10 down to 1/30th and am looking at moment thru my LCD screen, I can see the moment is indeed SLOW. You can see the moment is like film from the 1920s kind of deal ( missing frames so the actual looks more like stop motion ) I guess the human eye can't tell above 1/60th though, I pumped the shutter speed to 1/1000 th and live thru the lcd screen could not tell the diff between that and 1/60th, however I'm sure this is different once it has been recorded and you play it back on a computer ( but... I can't see any smoother moment ) In my test I was panning slowly across my table, an old watch of my father's. I wanted it super smooth, you know like shooting with a camera that does 240 fps. Upping the shutter to 1/1000th did NOT accomplish this, so it tells me, no matter what you set your video camera at, above 1/60th it seems the frame rate being recorded does NOT change.
post #4103 of 4133
Thread Starter 
Since I haven't been able to sell my HF G10 yet I will post a video taken at 1/1000th shutter and one taken at 1/60th shutter and post them to YouTube.
I'll have my wife do jumping jacks.
That should show you the difference.
I just have to get her off the Pachinko machine first.
I'll post the links to the videos in here when I am done.
post #4104 of 4133
Thread Starter 
Ok The differences that I can visually see are when I cranked the shutter to 1/2000 it was slightly less blurry but when you did a pause on a frame the higher shutter really nailed the action dead.
1/60 shutter was a bit blurred when paused.

The shot was tricky because the subject was lighted but there are a lot of shadows cast in the background by the trees. At 1/60 shutter I had to move the stop to 4.0 with a ND of 1/4.

From what I have seen it will not make it smoother but it will make it better for action although 1/2000 is a bit too extreme for all but the sunniest of days.

I can post the videos but they will not come to a different conclusion.

Higher shutter is really good for action especially indoors if you have the light. I've done that a few times in the past. It's not smoother tho.
post #4105 of 4133
Quote:
Originally Posted by zippo2008 View Post

I'm trying to get shots a little more smooth. I am always shooting in manual mode at 1/60th shutter speed ( Canon XA10 ) , last night I did some test footage of some slow panning at 1/1000 th shutter speed thinking perhaps it would create some smoother footage, but it did not. ---------- If I wanted smoother footage with my Canon 60D, I would switch down to 720p and shoot at 60 fps, but since we can't do that with the Canon XA10, I thought increasing the shutter would do it, it didn't. Is there a way to accomplish this ? I am guessing not, but thought I would ask Thanks for any info.

Of course it did not. Shutter speed and frame rate are two different things.
post #4106 of 4133
Hi Steve,

I never got an alert email you had posted, so sorry for the long delay in writing back here.

Thanks for doing that test for me ! Very interesting. Now that you mention the pause and the much clearer image, when you do, I remember seeing that somewhere, however I just forgot about it. I hope to remember this in the future. Thanks very much for doing those tests for me. A posted video is not necessary, I get the idea now, and I thank you for helping me out.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Cebu View Post

Ok The differences that I can visually see are when I cranked the shutter to 1/2000 it was slightly less blurry but when you did a pause on a frame the higher shutter really nailed the action dead.
1/60 shutter was a bit blurred when paused.

The shot was tricky because the subject was lighted but there are a lot of shadows cast in the background by the trees. At 1/60 shutter I had to move the stop to 4.0 with a ND of 1/4.

From what I have seen it will not make it smoother but it will make it better for action although 1/2000 is a bit too extreme for all but the sunniest of days.

I can post the videos but they will not come to a different conclusion.

Higher shutter is really good for action especially indoors if you have the light. I've done that a few times in the past. It's not smoother tho.
post #4107 of 4133
On another note, does anyone know if it's possible to QUICKLY play back the last recording you made on the XA10 or its smaller brother, so you can check ( verify ) a recording ?

I have my manual somewhere, but I can't find it. Any time I want to verify my last piece of footage, I have to press the button on the camera that switches it to the mode where you can copy scenes to the SD card. Kind of a round about way of doing it, and NOT quick to do.

Thanks for any help.
post #4108 of 4133
Thread Starter 
There is a playback button. All you have to do is press it and then a menu comes up with all your videos on it. Tap the one you want to watch.
That's the only way I know to do it and it's pretty fast.

Maybe the XA10 is different than my HF G10 tho.
post #4109 of 4133
Hi Steve,

that's how I do it at the moment. Hrrrmmm, a friend of mine had a much earlier version of a Canon camcorder, and he showed me maybe 4 years ago, a way to quickly replay the last scene, it was basically a one button thing, well it was... a single press and the video was playing. Perhaps Canon decided to remove this from later versions of their cameras. I don't recall what model he had, but it had internal memory, and an SD card also, it was AVCHD based too. It was nice how he could do that. Oh well.

thanks for your input.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Cebu View Post

There is a playback button. All you have to do is press it and then a menu comes up with all your videos on it. Tap the one you want to watch.
That's the only way I know to do it and it's pretty fast.

Maybe the XA10 is different than my HF G10 tho.
post #4110 of 4133
Quick question for everyone, for anyone,

when you save video clips to your SD card so you can save them on your computer's hard drive, external usb drive etc for safe keeping, do you also keep some other file that has some sort of meta data ?

Unlike Canon digital camera files, there is no EXIF info, so I've resorted to creating folders for all my video files from my XA10.

Eg.

A folder Canon-XA10-2012
a subfolder with the month, and then in those monthly folders, yet another
sub-folder with the date. It works for me, and it not a lot of work.

I'm just not sure if there is an easier / better way of doing it. I won't change my method, as it works for me. - i.e. somebody says to me, can you find me footage from July 14, 2011, and I can find it in a few seconds, but I just wonder if there is any EXIF info anywhere.

I also find it annoying when you forget to delete some videos ON the internal memory that you have already copied to SD card. If you then copy more files onto your SD card at a later date, all the numbers are now out of whack. I also have 2 SD cards, and swap them from time to time without knowing it ( meaning I will use either of them as the card that gets copied "to" ) and then the number sequence is totally out of whack
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