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post #151 of 818
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Originally Posted by raizer989 View Post

The box is roughly 52" long, 32" tall and 5.25" wide. I was able to fit it into a Honda coupe by sliding it behind the two front seats. (I couldn't see anything from the rear view and passenger side mirror on the drive home though ). I say just ask a friend with an SUV to help you out as it would be much easier.

It's a 6 hour drive 1 way Not sure a friend would want to drive all that way and the cost of gas in an suv would be daunting lol

Thanks for the measurements, I think it'll fit no problem. It's big enough to fit a bicycle/skies in there and I fit a big sized desk last time... I'll see if I can get a measuring tape and measure my trunk though (it's a hatchback) I'm currently in a hotel about 1 1/2 hours away from Austin so I'll need to ask if they have a measuring tape.
post #152 of 818
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Originally Posted by vpr View Post

It's a 6 hour drive 1 way Not sure a friend would want to drive all that way and the cost of gas in an suv would be daunting lol

Thanks for the measurements, I think it'll fit no problem. It's big enough to fit a bicycle/skies in there and I fit a big sized desk last time... I'll see if I can get a measuring tape and measure my trunk though (it's a hatchback) I'm currently in a hotel about 1 1/2 hours away from Austin so I'll need to ask if they have a measuring tape.

Fry's in Austin's got the 47LV5500 for $799 right now. Pretty good deal

I was able to fit the entire Box in my G35 Coupe.
post #153 of 818
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Originally Posted by vpr View Post

It's a 6 hour drive 1 way Not sure a friend would want to drive all that way and the cost of gas in an suv would be daunting lol

Thanks for the measurements, I think it'll fit no problem. It's big enough to fit a bicycle/skies in there and I fit a big sized desk last time... I'll see if I can get a measuring tape and measure my trunk though (it's a hatchback) I'm currently in a hotel about 1 1/2 hours away from Austin so I'll need to ask if they have a measuring tape.

LG has the box dimensions on the website. I'm not sure what size lv5500 you're asking about but here's the dimensions for the 47.
Shipping Dimensions (WxHxD)51.7" x 30.9" x 4.9"

Also fyi, Fry's has been having similar deals on the LW5600 which is the next step up with 3D for about the same price. Even if you don't plan to use 3D it's an added feature.
post #154 of 818
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Originally Posted by crkpot View Post

LG has the box dimensions on the website. I'm not sure what size lv5500 you're asking about but here's the dimensions for the 47.
Shipping Dimensions (WxHxD)51.7" x 30.9" x 4.9"

Also fyi, Fry's has been having similar deals on the LW5600 which is the next step up with 3D for about the same price. Even if you don't plan to use 3D it's an added feature.

Oh yea, when was the last time they had the LW5600 on sale? I'm looking for the 47" model. Thanks for letting me know about the website. Is it okay to site the TVs flat (like lying on it's back) while in transit, or does it need to be kept upright?

If the LW5600 goes on sale pretty frequently, I might hold off.

Wish they had the Sony 909 for $999 again.
post #155 of 818
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Originally Posted by crkpot View Post

Also fyi, Fry's has been having similar deals on the LW5600 which is the next step up with 3D for about the same price. Even if you don't plan to use 3D it's an added feature.

Does anyone know how much difference the local dimming feature makes for PQ?

I'm not too concerned with 3d and I can save several hundred dollars by going with the 5500, but I'm a bit turned off that it does not have lg's "local dimming" feature that is on the 5600, although I'm not sure what difference that feature actually makes.
post #156 of 818
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Originally Posted by dirtyb View Post

Does anyone know how much difference the local dimming feature makes for PQ?

I'm not too concerned with 3d and I can save several hundred dollars by going with the 5500, but I'm a bit turned off that it does not have lg's "local dimming" feature that is on the 5600, although I'm not sure what difference that feature actually makes.

These were my thoughts as well, and would also like to know
post #157 of 818
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The lv5500 does have local dimming and it's the exact same as lw5600 I imagine, except there's no menu options to control it on the lv5500. There's a bunch of info earlier in this thread.

Theyre talking about the fry's sales on the lw5600 thread, I think it was over the weekend, but the price was "unbelievable" just like the 47lv5500 has been.
post #158 of 818
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Originally Posted by crkpot View Post

The lv5500 does have local dimming and it's the exact same as lw5600 I imagine, except there's no menu options to control it on the lv5500. There's a bunch of info earlier in this thread.

From all the specs I can find I can't find any that says the 5500 has local dimming? I went back and looked through the thread and still convinced that they're the same on both models of tv's. I'll have to visit a B&M and play with them both.
post #159 of 818
As I mentioned in an earlier post, I have the option of turning local dimming "off, low, medium or High" when I watch a video through the usb port but don't have this option when watching regular tv or bluray (looks like it's set to High for tv or bluray w/ no way to turn off).

You can see the local dimming in action when there is a black screen with a line of text. There are other posts on this thread that describe the dimming in greater detail so yeah, the 5500 does have that feature. LG has just chosen not to highlight it for some reason. (probably to give the higher end models more consumer value?)
post #160 of 818
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Originally Posted by raizer989 View Post
As I mentioned in an earlier post, I have the option of turning local dimming "off, low, medium or High" when I watch a video through the usb port but don't have this option when watching regular tv or bluray (looks like it's set to High for tv or bluray w/ no way to turn off).

You can see the local dimming in action when there is a black screen with a line of text. There are other posts on this thread that describe the dimming in greater detail so yeah, the 5500 does have that feature. LG has just chosen not to highlight it for some reason. (probably to give the higher end models more consumer value?)
How does it compare to the 2010 model 47LE8500?
post #161 of 818
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Originally Posted by vpr View Post
How does it compare to the 2010 model 47LE8500?
Probably doesn't compare very well at all considering the 8500 was full backlit LED and this one is just edge-lit with local dimming(8-9 zones i think)
post #162 of 818
Yeah, I don't recall the 2010 LE5500 local dimming feature being well reviewed either. I sort of remember a bunch of reviews saying that it wasn't well implemented and took away from overall picture quality as there weren't enough zones. (12 only I think).
post #163 of 818
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Originally Posted by travanx View Post

When the phone pairs, the screen has 3 tabs, basically the remote control is broken into 3 sections on the phone. I click the screen and nothing happens on the tv. I haven't had a chance to play around with this more, but that whole not updating to the newest firmware on the first time I tried updating bothers me and makes me wonder if I might need to reset the tv or something.

Is there a service menu or any more info on calibrating this set??

Travanx, I now have an Android tablet with the LG TV Remote app installed but for some reason it isn't working properly. When I first launched the remote app, it started up with the pairing process. I entered the (requested) pairing letters; then it recognized the TV & opened into a screen that looks like it's for the remote but it's blank. No remote, no keys, nothing other than a title bar & a blank screen. Aside from this, the TV is working normally with the LG remotes.

Maybe I missed some thing, but do you know what might be wrong here & how I can fix it? By the way, there was an LG Smart TV firmware update the other day. I wonder if that might have disabled the Android remote?
post #164 of 818
Hey guys!! I'm pretty new here. I was interested in getting this T.V. Played with the magic controller and thought it was pretty cool. But I didn't get to see any video clips to see how the picture quality was. I dnt kno to go with the LG LV5500 or the Sharp 60" 831U. You guys have any suggestions??
post #165 of 818
One thing I've noticed with the LV5500 is that in some/certain scenes you can really see the side edge lights shining into the picture.

One example would be "the Shining." At around 46 min into the movie there is an outside shot where the background is mostly snow. You can clearly see that there is a bright glow coming from the edges of the set. I also really noticed this while watching the desert scenes of the movie "Dune."

Not sure if this is acceptable to me just yet.
post #166 of 818
Hi guys, just wondering how the black levels on the LV5500 compare to an older LG LCD (non-LED) model? My current TV is the LG 42LH40 from '09. Most of my TV viewing is nighttime movie watching with no lights turned on. In order to get as good a black level as I think is possible on an LCD, I have the backlight setting on mine turned down to 5 (for reference my other settings are Contrast:96, brightness:50, sharpness:42, color:50, colortemp:warm, gamma medium). So my set is turned down pretty low, and I get pretty decent black levels with that, but I still would like to upgrade to a set with better levels. I know the LE8500 from last year is supposed to be terrific but it's just too big for my space (unfortunately 42" seems to be becoming a slightly harder to find size these days).

Also, as I mentioned above the backlight on my LH40 is set at 5. If the backlight on the LV5500 (or other local dimming LED sets) is set similarly low, would that reduce the blooming/banding effects of the local dimming?
post #167 of 818
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Originally Posted by raizer989 View Post

One thing I've noticed with the LV5500 is that in some/certain scenes you can really see the side edge lights shining into the picture.

One example would be "the Shining." At around 46 min into the movie there is an outside shot where the background is mostly snow. You can clearly see that there is a bright glow coming from the edges of the set. I also really noticed this while watching the desert scenes of the movie "Dune."

Not sure if this is acceptable to me just yet.

Raizer989, what is your backlight set at? I've no experience so far with edge-lit local dimming LEDs, only having had a standard LG LCD for the past couple of years, but as I asked in my post above I'm wondering if turning the backlight down helps reduce things like flashlighting, banding, and blooming?
post #168 of 818
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Originally Posted by raizer989 View Post

One thing I've noticed with the LV5500 is that in some/certain scenes you can really see the side edge lights shining into the picture.

That sounds like the examples we were talking about earlier in this thread about the edge lit local dimming. It doesn't bother me but is going to be subjective.
post #169 of 818
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Originally Posted by Matt Stieg View Post

Raizer989, what is your backlight set at? I've no experience so far with edge-lit local dimming LEDs, only having had a standard LG LCD for the past couple of years, but as I asked in my post above I'm wondering if turning the backlight down helps reduce things like flashlighting, banding, and blooming?

I use this set as a bedroom tv always in the dark. I have my backlight set around 30 and have no problems with flashlighting or banding. Blooming is minimal. The more you turn down the backlight, indeed the more it improves overall blacklevel and any other lcd artifacts. The contrast level is very good on this set as in the difference between blacks and whites, however there is still a noticeable glow on dark scenes. It's not as bad as most I would say but not perfect by any means.
post #170 of 818
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For anyone interested there is a way to enable several missing features on this tv. I found a way to access the service menu's with a Harmony remote and checked it all out.

The only one normal users would be interested in is the EZ Adjust menu which this link shows how to manually add the code needed for a Harmony Remote. Access password is 0413.

Here's what I found most interesting:

Tool Option 2
Local Dim Menu set to 1 to enable Local Dimming Options in the TV Video setup menu
I have no idea why this option is disabled in the first place.

Tool Option 3

DVR Ready Set to 1 to enable Time Machine for dvr like functions on USB
This does enable Time Machine option when you put a usb drive on usb port 1 but my 4Gb stick didn't work. I'm not sure if it's because you have to use a USB Hard drive or this option doesn't work at all on the LV5500. Hopefully someone else can verify, I want this feature!

THX Set to 1 to enable THX video calibration options.
Adds the THX video mode like higher end models have. Not available on DLNA/MediaLink

THX Media Director Set to 1 to enable but not sure what it does.

Tool Option 5
Channel Browser Set to 1 to enable preview thumbnail grid of all channels.
I get thumbnail boxes for all channels but it's unable to load a preview from Cable, so it may not work on US cable. Also noticed when enabled a button with Korean words show up in the menu?

You can also enable 3D options in Tool Option 5 menu but I don't see anything new anywhere. The LW5600 is the same tv but with passive 3d, I don't know if the screen is different and/or it has a seperate processor for 3D but these options probably do nothing for LV5500.

There's also an option for CNET TV but enabling it I didn't see any new CNET features anywhere.

Also beware as everyone always says, there are settings that can brick your TV if you change the wrong thing, so be carefull. From what I could tell the EZ Adjust Menu is pretty safe but I didn't change the things I didn't know what they were.
post #171 of 818
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Found this link to an LG Training website with links to the electronics repair schemes, features details, specs and brief service menu settings.
post #172 of 818
Very cool additions! Can't wait to program my Harmony and check out some new menus.

Also, at the request of my Fiance, we upgraded from the 47" to the 55" LG. And she was right on with what she wanted. The 55" is amazing. I was the one trying to keep the 47" as I thought it was big enough, haha.
post #173 of 818
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Originally Posted by crkpot View Post

For anyone interested there is a way to enable several missing features on this tv. I found a way to access the service menu's with a Harmony remote and checked it all out.

The only one normal users would be interested in is the EZ Adjust menu which this link shows how to manually add the code needed for a Harmony Remote. Access password is 0413.

Here's what I found most interesting:

Tool Option 2
Local Dim Menu set to 1 to enable Local Dimming Options in the TV Video setup menu
I have no idea why this option is disabled in the first place.

Have you noticed any PQ improvements after enabling local dimming?
post #174 of 818
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Originally Posted by avfanatic1 View Post

Have you noticed any PQ improvements after enabling local dimming?

It's enabled from the factory, I think on the Low setting. I don't think it makes any difference really when there's a full image on the screen no matter how dark. It mainly just looks good at the start of movies when the screen is black and they're showing who's in the movie. I'm sure there's other times when it's a nice feature, but as I've seen edge lit local dimming is pretty limited.

I meant to point out before that the options for Led Local Dimming in the settings menu are: Low, Medium, High, Off. Each of the settings is very subtle and just changes the intensity of the blooming effect (glowing). Being able to turn it off for games and such is the biggest advantage to having a menu option.
post #175 of 818
Hello,

I'm looking for a new TV now and 47LV5500 looks like a good tv. However , I found out that 47LX6500 is cheaper in my country.

47LV5500 - 1050 Euro
47LX6500 - 1000 Euro

Difference is that LX is:
- 1 year old model of 2010
- 3D (LV is not 3D)
- 240Hz (vs 120 on LV model)

Do you think LX6500 would be a better buy since it is cheaper and has more features?
post #176 of 818
i just bought this tv. Overall impressions are positive but there is one glaring problem that is driving me nuts.

I understand that LG only licensed DTS in Korea, so all other sets will not decode DTS.

However, what is not clear (from online searching or manuals) is whether or not the optical out will pass through DTS (and other formats) untouched for a receiver to handle.

So I have two questions:

Can you pass through DTS to an external receiver using the optical out?
Can you pass 5.1 through the optical out (so far my receiver only "sees" a stereo signal even though the source is 6channel).

Hope someone here can answer this for sure because if this TV can't output 6ch to a receiver it makes the SmartTV function useless to me because all my source media is 6ch (combination of DTS, aac, ac3, etc).
post #177 of 818
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Originally Posted by KungFuJoe View Post
Can you pass through DTS to an external receiver using the optical out?
Can you pass 5.1 through the optical out (so far my receiver only "sees" a stereo signal even though the source is 6channel).
No DTS support whatsoever, not even on passthrough. Dolby AC3 works on hdmi arc but I don't know if it's been confirmed on optical.

If you choose to use hdmi arc you have to enable it in the tv audio options AND your receiver AND sync the tv with your receiver using Symplink.
post #178 of 818
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Originally Posted by crkpot View Post

No DTS support whatsoever, not even on passthrough. Dolby AC3 works on hdmi arc but I don't know if it's been confirmed on optical.

If you choose to use hdmi arc you have to enable it in the tv audio options AND your receiver AND sync the tv with your receiver using Symplink.

Thanks for the answers...at least I finally know that I wasn't just doing something wrong. Guess back to the store with this TV. It's a shame too, because otherwise, this TV and the SmartTV stuff was actually pretty freakin awesome.

Gonna just pick up another WD TV Live plus. I have one in my house already and it's awesome...can pretty much throw any type of media at it and it will handle it.
post #179 of 818
Here's my first impressions with this TV set and it ties in pretty well with some of the recent comments and questions.

I had no intention of buying another LG after some issues I had with last year's model that forced me to return it. However, I went through Fry's last week and they had the 55" LV5500 on sale for $1199. Doh!! That's less than I bought the 47" LX9500 for about 6-7 months ago. I was weak and couldn't resist a deal like that. Plus they threw in a free Bluray player.

My goal was to have a bedroom TV that I could hang on the wall and have no other connections to it like speakers, receiver, computer, etc. The 9500 model was close. The DLNA feature was able to play back almost everything EXCEPT for DTS encoded sound, which makes up about 80% of my library. The real big downer though for the 9500 model was the connection to Netflix. I just couldn't get it to work. Netflix support couldn't make it happen and neither could the LG support line. So back it went.

The LV5500, however, has worked out some of the issues I had with the earlier model. I got it all plugged in and ready to go. I fired up Netflix and had a big helping of fail. It just made no sense to me. I messed with my router, wi-fi, hardwiring, etc. I called LG again and this time... this time we got it worked out and I was thrilled! For whatever reason, LG apparently does not like my dynamic connection. I went in and manually set a direct connection and pointed the DNS to the LG server and BAM - it worked perfect. One issue down.

The other issue was DTS. Ugh - what a pain. Seriously, I tried and tried to find a work around for that 6-7 months ago. I tried about 10 different media servers and found some pretty cool options, but nothing worked. However, LG went and absolutely surprised me with their workaround. The sales person at Fry's didn't know anything about this feature and it wasn't until I started trolling through the forums that I learned about PLEX. Can we get a round of applause for LG's collaboration with PLEX? What an absolutely amazing feature. The 2011 LG tv's come with PLEX software installed and can be accessed via the Media Link application found right next to the browser. You just download the Plex media server onto your computer instead of using the supplied Nero MediaHome software. It takes all of about 1 minute to set up the server. I clicked the option to get DTS working and it just kicks butt. The layout for the movie selection reminds of XMBC. There's a built in scraper so you get nice movie tabs with descriptions and such. It's much better looking than the DLNA option, which is basically just selecting folders and finding your media. Another cool feature is it automatically downloads subtitles.

As far as the picture quality and other performance related things - in my opinion, the source material is always the most important. I think almost all new TV's look pretty fantastic displaying 1080p blurays. It was probably for this reason that I chose to go for a more mid level TV than sticking with a 9500 caliber type set.

The performance of last year's LX9500 tv is much higher than the LV5500 or any of the other 2011 LG models I've seen on display so far. It had local dimming & was a full array backlit set. I never saw any blooming or flashlight. I could catch a little banding every now and then, but it was negligible. When enabled, the THX and blacks were so good that I never even thought about a profession calibration.

The blacks on the 5500 are meh. There is obvious flashlighting in the corners because it's an edge lit set. I guess you could consider it to have local dimming with the energy saving function, although I'm not sure why don't just call it local dimming. I turned it off because I like a brighter set.

The colors look good to me. I can't tell a difference between the 480hz of the lx9500 vs the 120hz of the lv5500. There's no 3d, but no biggie - I never used it anyways. Most importantly, when I fire up a 1080p source both sets look fantastic. I really like the matte panel. The lx9500 had a glass cover and it was like a mirror during the day and also reflected the bedroom lights pretty bad at night.

Overall, I'm really happy with the LV5500. When weighing price vs performance & features, this set really stands apart from its competitors.
post #180 of 818
Anyone has calibration settings for this tv? I'm using the standard settings but it was too bright, so I reduced that and tweaked some other ones. It looks good, but I wanted to try other calibrated settings if someone is willin' to post them. Thanks.
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