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post #421 of 816
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Originally Posted by kujili View Post

HI,
Im having this tv for 2 weeks.I noticed a problem on it yesterday.The colors went pinkish on the screen suddenly.After rebooting it was good.Has anyone had this problem?what could be the reason for it?so far just once i had seen this....the other problem is the network disconnects often in the DLNA mode....

I ran into the same thing with dlna. Give plex a try.
post #422 of 816
So do I have a different panel to you guys? Can I got to LG and ask for it to be swapped?

Or do I dump this and go Samsung?
post #423 of 816
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Originally Posted by boxall View Post

The box has this on it:

47LV5500-TA.AAUYLJD

Your codes are different, but if I had to guess by the Y in the last part I would say it's a IPS. From what I gathered, LG starts out production runs by manufacturing their own panels for all models and they are all IPS (except below 40" models). IF they are outpaced by demand they then outsource panel parts from other manufacturers and this is when panel lotterys begin. Last year the outsourced panels were PVA and had bad viewing angles and colors. That sounds like what may have happened on yours. If possible you should go back to the shop and find a floor model of what you have, if it has better viewing angles look for the sticker on the back of the set and it will have the AAUYLJD code or more likely something different. If it is different, then ask them if they have any with that code in stock and exchange yours for that.
post #424 of 816
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Originally Posted by kujili View Post

HI,
Im having this tv for 2 weeks.I noticed a problem on it yesterday.The colors went pinkish on the screen suddenly.After rebooting it was good.Has anyone had this problem?what could be the reason for it?so far just once i had seen this....the other problem is the network disconnects often in the DLNA mode....

I've heard of the screen turning pink on LGTV when there's a problem with HDMI connections. No body has been able to explain it, but it does happen and doesn't hurt anything or mean anythings wrong. Hopefully it doesn't happen often!
post #425 of 816
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Originally Posted by Michaelll View Post

So do you ever see this local dimming ussue with normal tv use outside of the end credits crkpot? I'm leaning towards returning this tv at the moment. I also found a dead pixel today in the right center of the tv. On another note, it sounds like from Boxall's post that LG is using different panels as usual, and may be trying to switch it up with the product code so people won't know the difference as easily.

I see the glow on credits, title screens, changing inputs etc. Anything with an image in the middle of a black screen. It's a small annoyance like I say but not enough to turn off dimming. The black levels aren't terrible with dimming turned off so if the glow is too distracting it may be worth it to do what's needed to turn it off. If you haven't read up on LCD dimming, pretty much all models have some sort of glow when it's enabled. Even the full array led panels usually have some sort of glow around the object being illuminated on dark screens.
The dead pixel through would be reason enough for me to take it back though, is it glowing a certain color?
post #426 of 816
Will work out what to do.....
post #427 of 816
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Originally Posted by crkpot View Post

I see the glow on credits, title screens, changing inputs etc. Anything with an image in the middle of a black screen. It's a small annoyance like I say but not enough to turn off dimming. The black levels aren't terrible with dimming turned off so if the glow is too distracting it may be worth it to do what's needed to turn it off. If you haven't read up on LCD dimming, pretty much all models have some sort of glow when it's enabled. Even the full array led panels usually have some sort of glow around the object being illuminated on dark screens.
The dead pixel through would be reason enough for me to take it back though, is it glowing a certain color?

Hey crkpot, thanks for the reply. It's a dead pixel so it's just black and very visible on a white screen. On a white screen, I could still see it from about 5-6 ft away. I had a samsung with a couple of dead pixels and could not see them from any reasonable distance, but it was a light green screen that I saw them on. Yeah this tv is going back to the store, but I am not sure if I will exchange it or just return it.

I think most of the local dimming tvs have more of a blooming effect from what I have read, but this tv's black level rise goes across the whole screen horizontally. I got a really good deal on this tv, which is why I jumped on it and am having a tough time deciding if I am going to keep it or not.
post #428 of 816
I've had this TV for a few days and overall I'm pretty happy with it. The HD PQ is great. I was surprised by the sound quality too - much better than I thought it would be given the general poor sound quality on HDTVs in my experience.

I do have some issues streaming netflix movies and I'm hoping that someone can help me out here. How do I change the video settings for streaming netflix movies? I've changed the video settings for each input (TV, cable box, and blu-ray) to the settings from cnet for the LW5600 (post #204). However, it seems like these haven't been applied to netflix, as trumotion is still on.

Also, it looks like flashlighting is more pronounced when streaming movies from netflix. Has anyone noticed that when turning on the TV, when the LG startup screen is showing, that you can see light bleeding in from the sides (especially in the corners and in the bottom center of the screen above the LG logo). Can anyone comment on this so that I know if this is normal? This light bleeding from the sides (or flashlighting I suppose) isn't really noticeable when watching cable TV and DVDs. However, when I use the netflix app, the light bleeding is pretty noticeable, identical to the LG start up screen when I turn the TV on. I'm hoping that when I figure out how to adjust the video settings for streaming movies from netflix and change them to the settings that I have for cable and blu-ray, that this problem will go away.

Thanks a bunch in advance for help and suggestions.
post #429 of 816
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Originally Posted by Peanut Marie View Post

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I do have some issues streaming netflix movies and I'm hoping that someone can help me out here. How do I change the video settings for streaming netflix movies? I've changed the video settings for each input (TV, cable box, and blu-ray) to the settings from cnet for the LW5600 (post #204). However, it seems like these haven't been applied to netflix, as trumotion is still on.

This is something I and others have complained to LG about, but when using input sources other then physical inputs you are limited to only the preset factory modes like Standard, Vivid, etc. You can access those via the Q.Menu button from Netflix etc. You can make changes and turn off trumotion but can't use the ISF video modes.

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Originally Posted by Peanut Marie View Post

Also, it looks like flashlighting is more pronounced when streaming movies from netflix. Has anyone noticed that when turning on the TV, when the LG startup screen is showing, that you can see light bleeding in from the sides (especially in the corners and in the bottom center of the screen above the LG logo). Can anyone comment on this so that I know if this is normal?

That's what we've been talking about a few posts ago. You shouldn't see any flashlighting from corners or edges that aren't directly left or right of an illuminated image though. If you have an illuminated logo directly in the center of an otherwise blank screen you will see light bleeding left and right of it, but everything above and below should be pitch black, especially the corners.
post #430 of 816
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Originally Posted by crkpot View Post

This is something I and others have complained to LG about, but when using input sources other then physical inputs you are limited to only the preset factory modes like Standard, Vivid, etc. You can access those via the Q.Menu button from Netflix etc. You can make changes and turn off trumotion but can't use the ISF video modes.

Thanks for the reply crkpot. This is just what I was looking for.

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Originally Posted by crkpot View Post

That's what we've been talking about a few posts ago. You shouldn't see any flashlighting from corners or edges that aren't directly left or right of an illuminated image though. If you have an illuminated logo directly in the center of an otherwise blank screen you will see light bleeding left and right of it, but everything above and below should be pitch black, especially the corners.

Maybe flashlighting isn't the correct word for what I'm seeing. When you power on the TV, the first thing shown is the LG logo, and the black background on this screen is very inconsistent. Looking straight on I do think that the the corners and the bottom center right above the LG logo on the TV frame are a lighter shade and it almost looks like light is bleeding from the sides. If I view from an angle, the light bleeding shifts a bit (viewing from the right, the bleeding is more noticeable from the left side of the screen). This isn't noticeable through the cable or blu-ray inputs. However, when I switch to netflix this inconsistent black background is back and when watching movies on netflix the bottom black bar is not consistently black in all places. Again, looking straight on, it looks like light is bleeding from the bottom of the screen right above the LG logo on the TV frame. Has anyone else noticed something like this? Maybe the preset factory mode is causing this? I'll play around with the quick menu settings and see if I can figure out what's going on.

Thanks again for the help.
post #431 of 816
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Originally Posted by Peanut Marie View Post


Maybe flashlighting isn't the correct word for what I'm seeing. When you power on the TV, the first thing shown is the LG logo, and the black background on this screen is very inconsistent. Looking straight on I do think that the the corners and the bottom center right above the LG logo on the TV frame are a lighter shade and it almost looks like light is bleeding from the sides. If I view from an angle, the light bleeding shifts a bit (viewing from the right, the bleeding is more noticeable from the left side of the screen). This isn't noticeable through the cable or blu-ray inputs. However, when I switch to netflix this inconsistent black background is back and when watching movies on netflix the bottom black bar is not consistently black in all places. Again, looking straight on, it looks like light is bleeding from the bottom of the screen right above the LG logo on the TV frame. Has anyone else noticed something like this? Maybe the preset factory mode is causing this? I'll play around with the quick menu settings and see if I can figure out what's going on.

Thanks again for the help.

When you first turn on the set I don't think local dimming has kicked in yet, so you're seeing what the panel really looks like without tricks to hide imperfections (which is basically what local dimming is for). It sounds like your panel does have a flashlighting problem though. When you say the light shifts when you look at it from the side, does the whole picture wash out a bit from the side also?
post #432 of 816
I will be keeping mine. Like the network sharing too much!
post #433 of 816
First post and a newbie. I am thinking of purchasing the 55lv5500 but now I am looking at the LG-60PZ750. I know this could start a war because I am trying to compare LCD vs. Plasma. But the prices are not to far off with the plasma being $287 more and its obviously bigger. What would you all recomned. I currently have a 32 sony trinitron so this will be a big jump. I watch movies and sports mostly. The movies I watch most are either action or sci-fi. I love Star Wars. Please help with this dilema.
post #434 of 816
LED lit sets have a 100,000 hour life span, plasma/CCFL LCD sets are 20,000 hours.
post #435 of 816
I called LG about the horizontal black level rise I mentioned in my earlier post and they said that it is a defect and that they could send out a technician or I could just exchange it. I was curious to see what they would say. From what I have read, including this forum, it seems like this is in all the LV5500s. I know Crkpot mentioned seeing it along with a few other posters, but I am curious if there is anyone who does not see this on their LG LV5500? The best way to check it is with end credits where the background is black and the credits are white. If it is there you will see a substantial black level rise horizontally accross the screen wherever the credits are.
post #436 of 816
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Originally Posted by Michaelll View Post

I called LG about the horizontal black level rise I mentioned in my earlier post and they said that it is a defect and that they could send out a technician or I could just exchange it. I was curious to see what they would say. From what I have read, including this forum, it seems like this is in all the LV5500s. I know Crkpot mentioned seeing it along with a few other posters, but I am curious if there is anyone who does not see this on their LG LV5500? The best way to check it is with end credits where the background is black and the credits are white. If it is there you will see a substantial black level rise horizontally accross the screen wherever the credits are.


Have a picture of this defect?
post #437 of 816
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Originally Posted by pbr_201 View Post

47LV5500 working fine for me

Thanks for the input pbr_201. It is a nice tv other than the issue I have been seeing and if it is just a defect and not something that is in the model I would definitely exchange it for another.
post #438 of 816
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Originally Posted by crkpot View Post

When you first turn on the set I don't think local dimming has kicked in yet, so you're seeing what the panel really looks like without tricks to hide imperfections (which is basically what local dimming is for). It sounds like your panel does have a flashlighting problem though. When you say the light shifts when you look at it from the side, does the whole picture wash out a bit from the side also?

Thanks crkpot. I ended up exchanging my TV for a new one. The new tv still has some light bleeding in from the sides, but it's much more acceptable to me than the one I returned. While calibrating the new tv I noticed an audible buzz when powering on the tv that disappears once the tv has powered up and is connected to the cable box. However, when I go to the home screen, the audible buzz returns. It appears to be coming from the back vent near where all of the connections are located. Maybe the buzz comes on because the home screen is much brighter? I'm not sure, but I'll play around with it more and report back. Has anyone experienced something similar to this? I didn't notice it with my first tv, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there. I'd be really happy to hear that this is normal, because I really don't want to exchange it again... the buzzing isn't too loud, but it's definitely noticeable with the volume turned off.
post #439 of 816
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Originally Posted by Peanut Marie View Post

Thanks crkpot. I ended up exchanging my TV for a new one. The new tv still has some light bleeding in from the sides, but it's much more acceptable to me than the one I returned. While calibrating the new tv I noticed an audible buzz when powering on the tv that disappears once the tv has powered up and is connected to the cable box. However, when I go to the home screen, the audible buzz returns. It appears to be coming from the back vent near where all of the connections are located. Maybe the buzz comes on because the home screen is much brighter? I'm not sure, but I'll play around with it more and report back. Has anyone experienced something similar to this? I didn't notice it with my first tv, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there. I'd be really happy to hear that this is normal, because I really don't want to exchange it again... the buzzing isn't too loud, but it's definitely noticeable with the volume turned off.

I just checked mine with the home screen up and did not hear any buzzing. It may not be a big deal, but you may want to research it a bit to make sure that it is not a sign of something that could go wrong in the future.
post #440 of 816
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Originally Posted by Peanut Marie View Post

Thanks crkpot. I ended up exchanging my TV for a new one. The new tv still has some light bleeding in from the sides, but it's much more acceptable to me than the one I returned. While calibrating the new tv I noticed an audible buzz when powering on the tv that disappears once the tv has powered up and is connected to the cable box. However, when I go to the home screen, the audible buzz returns. It appears to be coming from the back vent near where all of the connections are located. . .

Mine has a slight buzz also but I have to be listening for it. It's the same as yours when the backlight is full brightness like on the home screen, you can hear it more. Do you have yours on a wall mount? I attribute most of being able to hear the buzz on mine to a flimsy wall mount that is adjustable to let the panel lean forward. Also the tv is mounted on a hollow wall. Everything is amplified. When i got the dvr function working on the tv, I double sticky taped a usb drive on the back and the noise from the drive is amplified for the same reason, I can hear it spin up and read a lot more then a little hard drive should. Someday I plan to reinforce and insulate at least the mounts.
post #441 of 816
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Originally Posted by crkpot View Post

Mine has a slight buzz also but I have to be listening for it. It's the same as yours when the backlight is full brightness like on the home screen, you can hear it more. Do you have yours on a wall mount? I attribute most of being able to hear the buzz on mine to a flimsy wall mount that is adjustable to let the panel lean forward. Also the tv is mounted on a hollow wall. Everything is amplified. When i got the dvr function working on the tv, I double sticky taped a usb drive on the back and the noise from the drive is amplified for the same reason, I can hear it spin up and read a lot more then a little hard drive should. Someday I plan to reinforce and insulate at least the mounts.

Thanks for your replies Michaelll and crkpot.

crkpot, I was just about to post saying that the buzz is proportional to the backlight level. The buzz is pretty low and can only be heard is a quiet room. When I turn the backlight level up to 100 (this makes the LEDs much brighter) the buzz is similar to what I hear when I go to the home screen (so I'm assuming that the backlight on the home screen and when you power up the tv is 100). At a backlight level of 30, which is what I'm using, it's not audible.

The tv is not mounted, but it is in a corner, so there could be some sound amplification there. I can hear the buzz sitting ~7 ft from the tv with the backlight at 100 and a volume of ~4 or below.

I'm not too worried about the buzz (especially if others hear it too) because I don't have the backlight high in any of my video settings for it to be audible. However, if others aren't noticing this, then maybe there is a problem with getting power to the LEDs in my tv and I'd rather just exchange it and not have to worry about the "problem" getting worse...

Thanks for the help everyone
post #442 of 816
just picked up the 55LV5500 yesterday and am pretty impressed so far.

one thing that i noticed yesterday but haven't had chance to play around with much:
I set my own picture settings (a lot dimmer than Standard), but whenever I go to the main "home" screen (with all the apps, etc showing), the picture setting changes and it brightens up the entire screen. When i switch back to an input, it dims back down to my settings again.

is there a way to set picture settings for the main "home" screen?
post #443 of 816
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Originally Posted by bkforyou View Post

just picked up the 55LV5500 yesterday and am pretty impressed so far.

one thing that i noticed yesterday but haven't had chance to play around with much:
I set my own picture settings (a lot dimmer than Standard), but whenever I go to the main "home" screen (with all the apps, etc showing), the picture setting changes and it brightens up the entire screen. When i switch back to an input, it dims back down to my settings again.

is there a way to set picture settings for the main "home" screen?

This is the biggest draw back for having the apps (NetCast, etc) on the TV itself rather than on a Blu-ray player, HTPC, AppleTV, or some other source. When using an external signal source, you can connect up to an HDMI inpout and use the ISF Expert setting to get a more closely calibrated picture.

LG, and many other TV makers only can allow a limited video menu for built in apps probably do to internal processing limitations.
post #444 of 816
where can we find some good calibrated picture settings?
post #445 of 816
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Originally Posted by bkforyou View Post

where can we find some good calibrated picture settings?

This was posted on page 4. I used the 10 point method.
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-530317.html
post #446 of 816
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If you follow the Plex forums, there's an LG rep on there and he recently posted an interesting blip. I tried to get confirmation but haven't heard back, but he say's Sept 9 there will be an update for the plex client on the tv that will have some user suggested improvements, but there will also now be DTS and DTS passthrough support. Plex isn't what decodes DTS on the tv, it transcodes, so I'm thinking LG has listened to the barrage of complaints and bought a license for DTS on 2011 tv's. We'll see.
post #447 of 816
I wanted to share two things that I discovered with this tv. The first is that game mode turns off local dimming, which may be helpful for anyone who does not have a harmony remote. Note that trumotion cannot be used to any extent in game mode. Also as far as gaming lag goes, it seemed like labeling the input to game lowered the lag a bit. You would think that just having the tv in game mode would be enough, which I found kind of odd. I tried labeling it as PC, but that didn't seem to help much for input lag.
post #448 of 816
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Originally Posted by Michaelll View Post
I wanted to share two things that I discovered with this tv. The first is that game mode turns off local dimming, which may be helpful for anyone who does not have a harmony remote. Note that trumotion cannot be used to any extent in game mode. Also as far as gaming lag goes, it seemed like labeling the input to game lowered the lag a bit. You would think that just having the tv in game mode would be enough, which I found kind of odd. I tried labeling it as PC, but that didn't seem to help much for input lag.
This is the only thing that is making me question getting this tv. I've read some reviews from people who play Rock Band and they all seem to think that the combo of game mode & game input label make the input lag perfectly manageable. After using these settings, do you find input lag to be acceptable? I know the LK450 is the best bet if lag is the main concern, but I think the LV5500 will probably be the better overall screen. Plus there doesn't seem to be a panel lottery with this one.
post #449 of 816
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Originally Posted by crkpot View Post

If you follow the Plex forums, there's an LG rep on there and he recently posted an interesting blip. I tried to get confirmation but haven't heard back, but he say's Sept 9 there will be an update for the plex client on the tv that will have some user suggested improvements, but there will also now be DTS and DTS passthrough support. Plex isn't what decodes DTS on the tv, it transcodes, so I'm thinking LG has listened to the barrage of complaints and bought a license for DTS on 2011 tv's. We'll see.

Yup, the rep confirmed DTS native support from the TV. We will soon be able to stream untouched mkv/dts from Plex without slow transcoding and DTS passthrough will mean those who have the TV connected to a receiver will finally get surround sound!
post #450 of 816
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Originally Posted by theantipop43 View Post

This is the only thing that is making me question getting this tv. I've read some reviews from people who play Rock Band and they all seem to think that the combo of game mode & game input label make the input lag perfectly manageable. After using these settings, do you find input lag to be acceptable? I know the LK450 is the best bet if lag is the main concern, but I think the LV5500 will probably be the better overall screen. Plus there doesn't seem to be a panel lottery with this one.

Well, with just game mode on, I tested this tv with the original Sonic the Hedgehog, Feeding Frenzy and Halo 3 on the Xbox through hdmi. Both Feeding Frenzy and Halo 3 felt pretty good with no noticeable lag, but Sonic was a bit hard to play. I then tried labeling the input as PC as I had read to do and it didn't seem to make a difference. So I tried labeling the input as game and it did make a difference. I still think I felt slight lag compared to my crt tv, but not much. It was acceptable to me. I hope this helps.
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