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post #601 of 818
Hey guys I got a weird problem that I dont remember reading about yet in this thread.

It has happened to me twice when changing the input from HDMI 2 (Blu Ray) back to HDMI 1 (Cable) I have no sound. I can run the sound test fine but the only way to get audio back for cable tv is to turn the tv off and on again.

Anyone know whats up here?
post #602 of 818
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Originally Posted by Hand76 View Post

Hey guys I got a weird problem that I dont remember reading about yet in this thread.

It has happened to me twice when changing the input from HDMI 2 (Blu Ray) back to HDMI 1 (Cable) I have no sound. I can run the sound test fine but the only way to get audio back for cable tv is to turn the tv off and on again.

Anyone know whats up here?

I've run into a couple of HDMI-related issues. With my cable box (Time Warner NYC), I had to do a "hard-reset" (pull the power plug temporarily on the cable box) to get it not to have this audio dropout issue when switching to-fro from other HDMI sources. Since I've done that, I haven't had any issues with the cable box.**** Before I did that, however, I was losing sound every time I would switch away and switch back. (****Ok, once I had the issue after this but that's when the cable box was in pause mode for about an hour on a recorded program I was watching. After resuming after that hour-long pause, I didn't have sound).

One unrelated sound issue I do have is that since going to AC3 playback and optical to my home theater tuner, I had to engage the audio sync option in the LG setup for that particular cable box source, because the lip sync was off. I had to turn the sync all the way to the left to match the audio. I don't see that problem on my other HDMI sources.

I've had one other HDMI issue, but this one is related to my Sony Blu-Ray player. I have it set for "24p" 1080p playback now and it works fine, but if I switch away from it as an HDMI source and switch back, it doesn't sync right with the TV. The screen just flickers a lot and I have to turn the Blu-Ray off/on again. I'm pretty sure that's a player issue and not my LG.
post #603 of 818
Thanks Slikk I will try that, now one last question.

I just noticed Real Cinema is set to off and greyed out in settings when I am on HDMI 2 on my Sony BD Blu Ray player. Is this right? I tried turning off Trumotion (thinking I couldn't have both running at the same time) but it is still greyed out.

((BTW I didn't have a Blu Ray disc in at the time, was only on the main menu))



NEVERMIND, just threw a disc in there and it turned on. Anyway thanks again Slikk will try that other trick for my sound now.
post #604 of 818
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Originally Posted by Hand76 View Post

Thanks Slikk I will try that, now one last question.

I just noticed Real Cinema is set to off and greyed out in settings when I am on HDMI 2 on my Sony BD Blu Ray player. Is this right? I tried turning off Trumotion (thinking I couldn't have both running at the same time) but it is still greyed out.

I'll have to look at that at home later.
post #605 of 818
I really don't think the panel is going to impact the frame interpolation experience. Were you looking at the exact same source material? I barely notice the smoothing on football, yet other network shows are extremely obvious. I will say I think this set does really well with F.I. My samsungs tend to give off effects that look like "heat waves" during fast motion on higher settings but the LGs look very smooth. I realize many dislike what it does to the picture but I doubt I could go back to a set without it.
post #606 of 818
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Originally Posted by Hand76 View Post

Thanks Slikk I will try that, now one last question.

I just noticed Real Cinema is set to off and greyed out in settings when I am on HDMI 2 on my Sony BD Blu Ray player. Is this right? I tried turning off Trumotion (thinking I couldn't have both running at the same time) but it is still greyed out.

((BTW I didn't have a Blu Ray disc in at the time, was only on the main menu))



NEVERMIND, just threw a disc in there and it turned on. Anyway thanks again Slikk will try that other trick for my sound now.

I noticed when watching 720p on my HR20-700 real cinema is off/greyed out, and on/available for 480/1080i, It is also greyed out when I play Black Ops (1080/60) I haven't check 1080/24 movies yet.
post #607 of 818
I recorded a 1080/24 movie from MGM HD on demand. I checked real cinema and it is available when viewing.
post #608 of 818
Does the 42lv5500 have an anti-glare/anti-reflective screen or, is it a glare screen?

Thanks,

-ftlee
post #609 of 818
It is a matte screen so very little glare. I have 4 lcd/led tvs and it absolutely has the least glare of the bunch. You will potentially notice some red and blue (i think?) colors where things like full lamps hit it as it diffuses the light hitting it. In some situations i like the reflective screen on my other sets...the "wet" gloss it gives to everything really makes it punchy....but if you have ambient light this 5500 screen is pretty hard to beat.
post #610 of 818
Thanks krispykeith
post #611 of 818
I am about to purchase one of these from Amazon. Does anyone think I would find an IPS model at a local Best Buy if I went looking for one?

Thanks,

Frank
post #612 of 818
What size? If you are looking for a 42 it might be hard to find. My local BB has the larger sizes in IPS but not the 42.

Mine went back to Amazon this week. I gave it a shot but just could not get it to work with the limited viewing angles in the room.

Good luck.

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Originally Posted by ftlee View Post

I am about to purchase one of these from Amazon. Does anyone think I would find an IPS model at a local Best Buy if I went looking for one?

Thanks,

Frank
post #613 of 818
I have kept a look out for IPS panels, and I think that at this point they are on the verge of extinction. It seems like its not so much a panel lottery as a total panel replacement. Go find a Best Buy deep in the woods, maybe they will still have some of the old IPS models.
post #614 of 818
AFAIK, all 47" TVs are IPS.
post #615 of 818
Are the 55's IPS as well?
post #616 of 818
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Originally Posted by sprint_9 View Post

Are the 55's IPS as well?

Not necessarily. It's just that 47" is unique to LG. Similarly you can be certain that 40", 46" and 52" panels are not IPS
post #617 of 818
I was a my local BB on 10/8. There were several 47LW5600 (3D model) on the floor and they were all "Y" I did not see any LV5500 boxes anywhere. I looked, but did not ask any sales associates if they had any.
post #618 of 818
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Originally Posted by Slikkster View Post

You need a Harmony Remote, or a compatible RCA Remote. Here's a list of cheap RCA remotes and the proper setup code to get to the EZ Adjust Menu: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post20711976

Here's CRKPOT's instructions on how to do various things in the EZ Adjust menu:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post20540589

Here's specific instructions on how to get AC3 (aka Dolby) passthrough via Optical (which I have confirmed does work). By the way, the tweak is for ALL HDMI inputs, not just a cable box. I can't say as to whether it will work for apps, though, as I haven't tried it:

When you are in the "EZ Adjust" menu on-screen, scroll down to the "AC3 EDID D/L" menu item and press select on the remote. A sub-menu will appear. You want to press select on the "Start" menu item. It will sequentially go through the list of inputs and enable AC3. After it's done (takes seconds), it will say "OK". At that point, TURN OFF THE TV AND TURN IT BACK ON. You'll then have AC3 passthrough to a receiver. No DTS, though...just Dolby.

Edit: AC3/Dolby passthrough DOES work for apps. I don't have a Vudu account, but I just watched a 2-minute "HDX 1080p" preview for a movie, and it was most definitely Dolby 5.1 on my tuner. I had no problem with center channel dialogue.

I followed these instructions and can confirm that the AC3 settings in the Service menu are now set to "OK" (and I've restarted the TV). However, I can't get Vudu/Amazon trailers/movies to pass Dolby to my receiver. Any other tips or tricks here? The audio does work, so I know the cables are hooked up correctly, but I'm at a loss as to what the issue might be. Any thoughts from those of you who have it working?
post #619 of 818
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Originally Posted by chambemd View Post

I followed these instructions and can confirm that the AC3 settings in the Service menu are now set to "OK" (and I've restarted the TV). However, I can't get Vudu/Amazon trailers/movies to pass Dolby to my receiver. Any other tips or tricks here? The audio does work, so I know the cables are hooked up correctly, but I'm at a loss as to what the issue might be. Any thoughts from those of you who have it working?

Make sure you're watching the "2-Minute Preview", not the "Trailer" on Vudu, as the trailers just run in 2-channel stereo. Click on a movie and choose a "2-Minute Preview" and then select the 1080p HDX preview mode (if available on the movie, of course...I used Zookeeper as my test and it works fine).

This works fine for me when I do it this way. Do you get Dolby when you're playing HD TV channels via your cable box?

Also, when you say "cables", that makes me wonder how you're set up. You should be using one Optical (aka Tosllnk) cable to go from the optical out the TV to the Dolby-capable receiver. There are no "cables" (plural).
post #620 of 818
Hey guys just popping my head back in here to see whats up and say hello. Wanted to ask does anyone know what kinda changes to the TV are made on firmware updates?

Do they ever change the picture settings or the look of the TV? Or are they only there to add apps/features?
post #621 of 818
I think I've seen other people reporting similar results, but at this point I believe I can safely say that adjusting the bass and treble in the audio settings on these sets changes nothing in the sound.

Concur?
post #622 of 818
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Originally Posted by Slikkster View Post

I think I've seen other people reporting similar results, but at this point I believe I can safely say that adjusting the bass and treble in the audio settings on these sets changes nothing in the sound.

Concur?

I really have not messed with the audio much. But I think most have said they turn treble way down and bass way up.
post #623 of 818
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Originally Posted by Hand76 View Post

I really have not messed with the audio much. But I think most have said they turn treble way down and bass way up.

Yes, that's true, but my point is that doing so makes no discernible difference in the sound. There's quite a range in the bass/treble slide bar, and on most devices where that kind of range exists, you could easily hear the changes in the sound coloring.

I can't on this TV.
post #624 of 818
I will have to check this again when I am home but I "think" I had to disable some of the other options such as "clear voice" or whatever it is called to get the bass and treble adjustments to make a difference. You are correct that it is not dramatic, but I am pretty confident there was a noticeable change.
post #625 of 818
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Originally Posted by krispykeith View Post

I will have to check this again when I am home but I "think" I had to disable some of the other options such as "clear voice" or whatever it is called to get the bass and treble adjustments to make a difference. You are correct that it is not dramatic, but I am pretty confident there was a noticeable change.

I have disabled Clear Voice. I'm doing nothing but adjusting bass and treble to each end of the scale on both. Nada.

By the way, I'm an audio engineer by trade. That doesn't make me right, of course, but I do have to pay attention to these things in my own job. (Cue the responses of "You've probably killed your hearing over time!" lol)

I guess I could go further and actually record something off the headphone jack while adjusting bass/treble and look at the frequency response while adjusting, but for now I'd just like some others' feedback here.
post #626 of 818
New firmware 04.02.24 Still no AAC support.
post #627 of 818
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Originally Posted by H_Y_L View Post

Here's a listing of universal RCA remotes that should work:
RCR3273N, RCR3283N, RCR412SN, RCR412BN, RCR4383N, RCR4258N,
RCR4358N, RCR4373N, RCR4383N, RCR461, RCR612N, RCR473N, RCR812N,
RCR815N.

I purchased the model RCR412BN.
Procedure
1) Enter setup code 11265 to set up remote
(follow your remote direction set up)
2) Hit "Guide Button"
3) Input password code 0413
4) You are in the EZ menu of your LG tv

I purchased the RCRN04GR ($9.95 WalMart) today and used the following:
1) Enter setup code 12358 to program remote
2) Hit "2" on the RCA remote which brought up the EZ menu upper left hand corner of my 55LV5500
3) No password req. Use LG remote to navigate through menus using left, right, up, down buttons around the "enter" button.

I made the "local dimming", "AC3" and "DVR ready" only with no issues. Turned TV off and back on, no issues.
post #628 of 818
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Originally Posted by Slikkster View Post

Make sure you're watching the "2-Minute Preview", not the "Trailer" on Vudu, as the trailers just run in 2-channel stereo. Click on a movie and choose a "2-Minute Preview" and then select the 1080p HDX preview mode (if available on the movie, of course...I used Zookeeper as my test and it works fine).

This works fine for me when I do it this way. Do you get Dolby when you're playing HD TV channels via your cable box?

Also, when you say "cables", that makes me wonder how you're set up. You should be using one Optical (aka Tosllnk) cable to go from the optical out the TV to the Dolby-capable receiver. There are no "cables" (plural).

Ahh, you're right. I was trying the trailers (which seemed to indicate they were in HD with Dolby Audio) and the Amazon HD movies. Neither of these had 5.1 audio unfortunately, but the "2 minute previews" on Vudu to work as you detailed. Looks like I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed that Amazon makes it available for their titles at some point.
post #629 of 818
Ok...you are absolutely right...bass and treble adjustments make no difference. The thing is I KNOW it did change the sound coloration before (around a month ago). I am not claiming it made the sound great, but I could absolutely hear a difference as I made adjustments. I listen 90% through receiver so I never noticed if it changed at some point. Is it possible a firmware change disabled this?
post #630 of 818
Oh, and on another sound note I do find the "stand" sound far superior to the "wall mount" setting, or whatever it is called.
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