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post #1681 of 1859
Shouldnt make much of a difference
post #1682 of 1859
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Originally Posted by SchererBoy View Post

Clash Of The Titans looks stunning in BD, on my 43D450.

Still haven't adjusted my settings, and the picture is just brilliant. I'll finally adjust them on Saturday, the 2 week point in getting the set. I should have over 150 hours at that point.

Any recommendations on who's settings I should use? Mostly viewing Sports and Movies.

I found these on a website .They work for me,I'm still tweaking a little but these look pretty good.


White Balance Settings
Red-Offset 22 Red-Gain 33
Green-Offset 25 Green-Gain 24
Blue-Offset 12 Blue-Gain 33

Picture Settings
Picture Mode: Movie Black Tone: Off
Color Temp: Warm 2 Dynamic Contrast: Off
Brightness 55 Gamma: 0
Contrast 91 Color Space: Auto
Color 52 Flesh Tone: Off
Tint G35/R65 Edge Enhancement: Off
Sharpness 10 Digital NR: Auto
Cell Light 8 HDMI Black Level: Low
Film Mode: Auto
post #1683 of 1859
I'm unable to adjust the HDMI Black Level. It's set at normal, but it doesn't allow me to even adjust because it just skips over it, right on to Film Mode. It's a lighter gray color, when every other option is in white.

This is weird to me because I have my DVR/Cable Box hooked to the set via HDMI cord.

Also, what is the difference between 'Native' and 'Auto' when choosing, in Color Space? It's currently set at auto.
post #1684 of 1859
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Originally Posted by SchererBoy View Post

I'm unable to adjust the HDMI Black Level. It's set at normal, but it doesn't allow me to even adjust because it just skips over it, right on to Film Mode. It's a lighter gray color, when every other option is in white.

This is weird to me because I have my DVR/Cable Box hooked to the set via HDMI cord.

Also, what is the difference between 'Native' and 'Auto' when choosing, in Color Space? It's currently set at auto.

HDMI level is only selectable for RGB sources from my understanding. I believe Auto is the more accurate color space.

The only correct setting for Cell Light is 10 from everything I have read.
post #1685 of 1859
ah, didn't know that chun. was wondering why it wouldn't allow me to change it.

CL 10 seems to be a little too bright for me. I've also read it's pretty expensive, energy wise, when you keep it on 10. that's not a major concern tho, but that brightness is for now.
post #1686 of 1859
Hello !!

Could you guys help me? I don´t have those amazing stores to test TVs here =(

I went to buy a 51D8000 -> $2520, but I do not care for SMART, Web Browser or even 3D.
So they suggested me a 51D490 -> $1250.

The D490 is 720p, but my major use will be PS3 gaming.


Thinking in image quality and resolution, what should I do?


Thank you.
post #1687 of 1859
If that's $1250 USD that is way too much.
Samsung's suggested retail was $849
I got my pn51d490 for $650 USD.
They are now discontinued so you should be able to find a good deal.

I use the Xbox360 on mine and it looks great.
post #1688 of 1859
Thank you for the reply.

Unfortunately where I live these are the best prices I can get in the stores.

So the quality won´t be that higher to spent twice?
post #1689 of 1859
I think it also depends on how close you sit.
If you sit less then about 8ft from your tv then you might want to get the 1080p. If you sit more then 8ft away then I think you would be happy with the 720p.
post #1690 of 1859
Well, I think it´s 6 feet here.

Now I´m confused again... oh God... twice the price.... worth or not...
post #1691 of 1859
darka, where are you from? couldnt you just order online and not pay twice the price?
post #1692 of 1859
Even at 6ft it still has a great picture. The only thing is, at that distance, I can see the fine lines across the screen between the pixels. Other people in my house don't seem to notice it and think I'm crazy. I really only notice it if there is alot of white or bright scenes.

I noticed one other person in this thread talking about it as well.
The further away you are you can't really see a difference between 1080 and 720.
I bought a 1080p lcd tv and returned it to get the 720p 51d490
The colors and picture are much better on this tv even with the lower resolution.
It's actually a little better then 720p which is 1280x720. The 51d490 is 1366x768

One other thing you might want to consider is this tv is very glossy. If you are in a room with alot of light you will get bad glare. It's almost like a mirror.
The 51d8000 the screen isn't as reflective. However I have seen people complaining about the anti glare film on the 51d8000 screen peeling off.

Good luck deciding I know its a tough decision. The tv does look great but of course 1080p is better.If you do go with the 51d490 you can get a few pairs of 3D glasses with the money you saved.
post #1693 of 1859
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Originally Posted by Blackadder_100 View Post

T-MST4DEUC-1026.0 and T-MSV4DEUC-1008.0

Although the release date is shown on the Samsung site as 26th Oct 2011 (same as previous versions), this firmware shows a date of 20th Feb 2012 when installed on the TV.

Could not post a link to these firmwares due to forum anti-spamming measures, as I have less than 3 posts


Only new is msv4deuc from v1006 to v1008, the mst4deuc is same sinds october v1026.
post #1694 of 1859
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Originally Posted by SchererBoy View Post

ah, didn't know that chun. was wondering why it wouldn't allow me to change it.

CL 10 seems to be a little too bright for me. I've also read it's pretty expensive, energy wise, when you keep it on 10. that's not a major concern tho, but that brightness is for now.

The calibrator that did my D530 yesterday told me anything less than 10 has a negative impact on gamma.
post #1695 of 1859
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

The calibrator that did my D530 yesterday told me anything less than 10 has a negative impact on gamma.

With 10 being the highest possible number? I know other models reach 20, so I just want to be clear.
post #1696 of 1859
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Originally Posted by SchererBoy View Post

With 10 being the highest possible number? I know other models reach 20, so I just want to be clear.

20 is the max on the european models, the US max is 10
post #1697 of 1859
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

20 is the max on the european models, the US max is 10

my 51D490 goes to 20 on cell light,so i think it's the euro that's 10.
post #1698 of 1859
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Originally Posted by thebigdaddye View Post

my 51D490 goes to 20 on cell light,so i think it's the euro that's 10.

the 51d450 only goes to 10 so maybe difference between 450 and 490.
post #1699 of 1859
the PSxxD450/490 cell light goes to 20
the PNxxD450/490 cell light goes to 10

the PS models also play video from USB port

the PN models are only sold in the americas and canada for NTSC compatability. The PS is sold everywhere else as it is a PAL unit.

whether PN cell 10 = PS cell 20 i dont think anyone has ever measured
post #1700 of 1859
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Originally Posted by g.lewarne View Post

the PSxxD450/490 cell light goes to 20
the PNxxD450/490 cell light goes to 10

the PS models also play video from USB port

the PN models are only sold in the americas and canada for NTSC compatability. The PS is sold everywhere else as it is a PAL unit.

whether PN cell 10 = PS cell 20 i dont think anyone has ever measured

Thanks for the clarification
post #1701 of 1859
I have the pn51d490 US model and the cell light goes to 20.
post #1702 of 1859
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Originally Posted by booboo357 View Post

I have the pn51d490 US model and the cell light goes to 20.

Only thing I can confirm is the 51d450 us model only goes to 10.
post #1703 of 1859
Default white balance settings in Service menu?
I changed them all to 128 in the service menu, but I would like to change them back to whatever they were when the tv left the factory.

Any help would be appreciated.
post #1704 of 1859
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Originally Posted by eeee87 View Post

Default white balance settings in Service menu?
I changed them all to 128 in the service menu, but I would like to change them back to whatever they were when the tv left the factory.

Any help would be appreciated.

I was looking for those as well (nice to have if I go back to a complete factory reset).
post #1705 of 1859
Thanks again to Bachelor. I used those settings as well (PN51D490). I tweaked it a little last night and I'll probably do some more tonight. The blues seem to be slightly washed, but I was running Avatar last night and its probably because I'm used to seeing the natives almost glowing on every other TV set.

The flesh tones are right on though (for humans).
post #1706 of 1859
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Originally Posted by eeee87 View Post

Default white balance settings in Service menu?
I changed them all to 128 in the service menu, but I would like to change them back to whatever they were when the tv left the factory.

Any help would be appreciated.

I know it a little hard to see but here is the wb on my 51D490.


Attachment 240492
LL
post #1707 of 1859
are 128 and 140 the last numbers?

128
122
128
137
132
144
128
140


correct?
post #1708 of 1859
Ok, just picked up a PN43d490 from Sam's for $399.

I've read through most of this entire thread, and even tried some of the various calibration suggestions. I don't know if those were for different sets of what, but some of the numbers and names in the menus didn't correspond....and the pictures didn't look very good at my best guesses for trying to match my set to the suggested calibration numbers.

Also, my picture looks a bit squatty, and it definitely doesn't fill up the entire screen -- even in a full HD like say, FoxNews or ESPNHD. Got any info or suggestions to fix that?
post #1709 of 1859
Some channels have those black bars, but maybe you have to go into the menu and change it to 16:9?

If that doesn't work, I apologize. I have the D450 so..
post #1710 of 1859
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Originally Posted by NGagekc View Post

Ok, just picked up a PN43d490 from Sam's for $399.

I've read through most of this entire thread, and even tried some of the various calibration suggestions. I don't know if those were for different sets of what, but some of the numbers and names in the menus didn't correspond....and the pictures didn't look very good at my best guesses for trying to match my set to the suggested calibration numbers.

Also, my picture looks a bit squatty, and it definitely doesn't fill up the entire screen -- even in a full HD like say, FoxNews or ESPNHD. Got any info or suggestions to fix that?

make sure that both the tv and the cable box or sat box is set to 16x9 in the settings. someting is not correct somewhere on the tv or source box. good luck
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