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post #121 of 1897
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Originally Posted by er3_unc View Post

I'm surprised Samsung hasn't put any higher end plasmas on the website too.

Happy to hear your opinion on the glossy/glare issue.

I think the glossy issue is not a big deal, it seems it is no glossier then most other plasmas. However people coming from led/cld do see the difference. During normal watching it's great, if there are many dark scenes then some reflections can be seen, for me it is not a deal breaker...for some it might be. I would suggest checking it out in a store before taking the plunge, Sears and BB carry them.
post #122 of 1897
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Originally Posted by Calcvictim View Post

I got the tv today(64d550), set it up....no buzz I can hear.

So far no complaints, the 3d glasses work well, no sync losses. The tv is glossy but no worse then my 2 year old Panny plasma. So far very happy with the purchase.


I tried to register the tv with Samsung but the pn64d550 is not in their list, WTF?

Just curious what was your previous panny? I have a 2 year old 42X1 and I have to say the AR filter is significantly better on it.

Glad you are happy with it though.
post #123 of 1897
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

Just curious what was your previous panny? I have a 2 year old 42X1 and I have to say the AR filter is significantly better on it.

Glad you are happy with it though.

My Panny is a TH-50PZ80U, I still have use it in the bedroom.
post #124 of 1897
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Originally Posted by Calcvictim View Post


I think the glossy issue is not a big deal, it seems it is no glossier then most other plasmas. However people coming from led/cld do see the difference. During normal watching it's great, if there are many dark scenes then some reflections can be seen, for me it is not a deal breaker...for some it might be. I would suggest checking it out in a store before taking the plunge, Sears and BB carry them.

Yea I checked it out at best buy before I bought it on Amazon. I was impressed with the PQ in the store and didn't notice the reflection. I do notice it during black scenes now when lights are on, but it doesn't really bother me.
post #125 of 1897
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Originally Posted by Aletuner View Post

I have the exact same problem. I got my 59D550 just over a week ago. I started noticing these brightness/contrast/black level "pops" here and there. Originally I thought it was my DVR's fault, because I could rewind the material, pause it, and frame by frame up to the point where the pop occurred. Then I noticed it while watching a Blu-Ray.

After that I did some experimenting. I could find a scene where the pop occurred. Then go in to my brighness/contrast/dynamic contrast/black level settings and change them up a bit. This would make the pop go away. However, they would still occur elsewhere. I have not been able to find settings yet that make it go away 100%.

I have tried everything off (Dynamic CR, black level adjustment, DNR, MPEG NR, etc. etc.) and calibrated using the WOW disc. Still get pops. Turn black level to low, normal, high, Dynamic CR the same thing, still get pops.

I also noticed while watching "Shutter Island" over the weekend that the blacks in the top and bottom letterbox areas would shift at random points throughout the movie. Once again I could replay the scene and see it happen every time, then tweak some settings and it would go away for that scene.

I am wondering if perhaps we just got some faulty sets? Is everyone who bought a 59D550 not seeing this? It's pretty obvious when it happens. I got a 2-year in home warranty with my purchase. I'm thinking about using it or taking it back to the store to get a replacement and see if that helps...

I have the same thing happening on my set (59D550). Over the course of one bluray movie I saw maybe 5 pops. It doesn't bother me enough to return the set, but it would be nice if some setting was able to fix it.
post #126 of 1897
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Originally Posted by goedken1 View Post

I have the same thing happening on my set (59D550). Over the course of one bluray movie I saw maybe 5 pops. It doesn't bother me enough to return the set, but it would be nice if some setting was able to fix it.

It happened quite often to me last night over the course of two hours of TV. It's very distracting to me and is unacceptable for a display that cost as much as this one did with taxes, warranty, etc. so I will be contacting the store today when they open to find out what my options are.

Have you tried checking for a firmware update? I haven't bothered to hook mine up to my network yet, but I will tonight to see if there is one available. Then I'll cross my fingers and hope for a miracle fix!
post #127 of 1897
Is the affect you guys are talking about kind off like a strobe affect, I think I saw something similar, it was a high contrast scene and I was watching 3d. It might have looked like either the glasses lost sync for a moment or the screen sort off strobed.

I haven't seen anything when watching 2d.
post #128 of 1897
It's all when watching standard 2D material. I don't really have a big interest in 3D and haven't even fired up a 3D movie yet.
post #129 of 1897
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Originally Posted by Calcvictim View Post

My Panny is a TH-50PZ80U, I still have use it in the bedroom.

Ha! We upgraded from the same TV!
post #130 of 1897
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Originally Posted by Aletuner View Post

It happened quite often to me last night over the course of two hours of TV. It's very distracting to me and is unacceptable for a display that cost as much as this one did with taxes, warranty, etc. so I will be contacting the store today when they open to find out what my options are.

Have you tried checking for a firmware update? I haven't bothered to hook mine up to my network yet, but I will tonight to see if there is one available. Then I'll cross my fingers and hope for a miracle fix!

I too am hoping that a firmware update will fix the issue. Considering that this seems to be what the Dynamic Contrast setting would do and we all have ours to 'off', you'd think this wouldn't be happening and that it would be fixable.

However, I think the TV is rather cheap for its size (59" in my case), picture quality and 3d capability, so I'm willing to live with a few bugs. I might venture up 200 or 300 dollars to see if perhaps the 6500 is spared from these issues, but beyond that--paying over $2,000 for a flat-panel--isn't in the cards for me. I plan on buying a front-projection system in the next 2 years, and that's where the big TV money is going.
post #131 of 1897
So I swapped out my TV for another unit last night. Still have the buzz and the adjusting black levels I also got my 3d glasses yesterday--and while the 3d is AWESOME!!--cranking up the brightness (generally speaking here, not just "brightness" setting) made the two issues worse. My buzz is directly correlated to what the screen is displaying and bright scenes make it worse. The only ace up my sleeve I can think of that might ameliorate this issue is taking it off my floating mount (like a wall mount but on a stand) and placing it on its pedestal.
post #132 of 1897
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Originally Posted by javanpohl View Post

So I swapped out my TV for another unit last night. Still have the buzz and the adjusting black levels I also got my 3d glasses yesterday--and while the 3d is AWESOME!!--cranking up the brightness (generally speaking here, not just "brightness" setting) made the two issues worse. My buzz is directly correlated to what the screen is displaying and bright scenes make it worse. The only ace up my sleeve I can think of that might ameliorate this issue is taking it off my floating mount (like a wall mount but on a stand) and placing it on its pedestal.

So you got a new 59D550 from the store and have the same black level issue? Crap. Do you know if the store you got it from had the same batch of inventory from when you first bought it? The one I bought mine from is getting a new shipment in next week since they are currently sold out.

My 59D550 is on the included stand, not on a wall mount.
post #133 of 1897
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Originally Posted by Aletuner View Post


So you got a new 59D550 from the store and have the same black level issue? Crap. Do you know if the store you got it from had the same batch of inventory from when you first bought it? The one I bought mine from is getting a new shipment in next week since they are currently sold out.

My 59D550 is on the included stand, not on a wall mount.

How do you test for these black level issues? I watched some non-hd content with horizontal black bars and didn't notice anything. I plan on watching a blu-ray tonight to see if I notice anything.
post #134 of 1897
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Originally Posted by er3_unc View Post

How do you test for these black level issues? I watched some non-hd content with horizontal black bars and didn't notice anything. I plan on watching a blu-ray tonight to see if I notice anything.

I don't "test" for them... I just watch programs from my Dish Network box, Blu-Rays from my PS3 or NetFlix from my 360. I have tried component connections as well as HDMI. While viewing the content, occasionally the black levels will jump up or down from one frame to the next. It's pretty jarring visually. My system did not exhibit this issue before last week when I purchased this new set. I'm in the video engineering industry and troubleshoot problems as part of my job.

I just got off the phone with Samsung tech support. The guy said this is actually the first call they have gotten regarding a 59D550. He doesn't even have a troubleshooting guide yet since they are so new. Ah well.
post #135 of 1897
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Originally Posted by er3_unc View Post

How do you test for these black level issues? I watched some non-hd content with horizontal black bars and didn't notice anything. I plan on watching a blu-ray tonight to see if I notice anything.

How you have you black level and contrast set seem to have an effect on this issue, so perhaps that's why you didn't notice it?? And, as someone else said, adjusting them for a particular movie can mostly fix the problem for that movie but then it can crop up again on another. Seems like the higher the contrast is set, the worse it is.
post #136 of 1897
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Originally Posted by Aletuner View Post

So you got a new 59D550 from the store and have the same black level issue? Crap. Do you know if the store you got it from had the same batch of inventory from when you first bought it? The one I bought mine from is getting a new shipment in next week since they are currently sold out.

My 59D550 is on the included stand, not on a wall mount.

I'm assuming they had the same batch but that thought didn't even cross my mind so I didn't check. Good idea on calling tech support. Perhaps I'll give them a call too so they know that more than one person is having this problem.
post #137 of 1897
Box dimentions for 64D550. 64 inches long 17 1/4 deep and 40 inches tall. I fit it in the back of my wifes 01 honda CRV and drove home with my belly
post #138 of 1897
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Originally Posted by larrysplasma View Post

Can anyone tell me where I find the "pixel shift" settings, in which menus?

Thanks!

Menu/system/screen burn protection. this is where it is on the 64D550
post #139 of 1897
Well, I had the black shifting problem on my 64d550 and I do not like it and I can not accept this. I have all ready arranged to have the tv shipped back and I put in an order for the new 65inch Panasonic. Hopefully, that will not have this issue.
post #140 of 1897
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Originally Posted by Calcvictim View Post

I got the tv today(64d550), set it up....no buzz I can hear.

So far no complaints, the 3d glasses work well, no sync losses. The tv is glossy but no worse then my 2 year old Panny plasma. So far very happy with the purchase.


I tried to register the tv with Samsung but the pn64d550 is not in their list, WTF?

I had a chat session with a samsung rep from the customer service dept. on the web site and they are sappose to be updating the site soon. she took all my info and said I would get an e-mail when it was registered.
post #141 of 1897
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Originally Posted by ssengine1885 View Post

Box dimentions for 64D550. 64 inches long 17 1/4 deep and 40 inches tall. I fit it in the back of my wifes 01 honda CRV and drove home with my belly

Thanks that should fit in our Sorento.
post #142 of 1897
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Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON View Post

Bingo.

Last year they were trying to mimic the gloss LCD look and now it seems they are going even farther in that direction. (My 50c450 is highly reflective, but also holds it's blacks very well in the sunlight, better than any other plasma I have owned.)

I've had three 50C450's now. I got a real good belly laugh out of this comment. You must not have ever owned a plasma with a decent filter if you think the C450 filter preserves blacks well!
post #143 of 1897
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Originally Posted by er3_unc View Post

How do you test for these black level issues? I watched some non-hd content with horizontal black bars and didn't notice anything. I plan on watching a blu-ray tonight to see if I notice anything.

Now isn't this a good thing? Do you really want to know if you have an issue? Enjoy it, sounds like you are good
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post #144 of 1897
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Originally Posted by millertime50 View Post

on my 50 i have allways used 16.9, i thought it was sappose to be a better picture.. but heck i don't know for sure.. now i have tryed screen fit (i seen in a post above where they had teres set to screen fit ).. so far i have not seen a big differance, but i have not watched much but HD channels.. seems like that is all i watch..

Screen fit does not employ any overscanning and is the best setting with the best PQ. Only use 16:9 when you want to get rid of the annoying flickering thin white bars (Close Captioning data) at the very top of HDTV channels. Using 16:9 will overscan the picture like 2% or something.
post #145 of 1897
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Originally Posted by DocuMaker View Post

I've had three 50C450's now. I got a real good belly laugh out of this comment. You must not have ever owned a plasma with a decent filter if you think the C450 filter preserves blacks well!

5020 Kuro
54G10 Panny
54V10 Panny

All of them had more black loss in sunlight than my 50c450, it is thanks to the jet black pixel spacers they have.
post #146 of 1897
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Now isn't this a good thing? Do you really want to know if you have an issue? Enjoy it, sounds like you are good

Well not exactly. We had our first sunny day here in Charlotte after 3-4 days of dreary weather and it completely destroyed the picture on the 550. There were actually sun spots on the screen. So I'm returning it and reevaluating. Probably will go back to LCD. My living room may just be too bright.
post #147 of 1897
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Originally Posted by DocuMaker View Post


Screen fit does not employ any overscanning and is the best setting with the best PQ. Only use 16:9 when you want to get rid of the annoying flickering thin white bars (Close Captioning data) at the very top of HDTV channels. Using 16:9 will overscan the picture like 2% or something.

With my cable, screen fit does not actually fit my screen. Leaves a black small border around perimeter. If I move thr picture, I'm still left with black border on at least 2 sides...?
post #148 of 1897
knock on wood.. but mine has worked perfect , and seems to get a better picture the more it has been used..
post #149 of 1897
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Originally Posted by DocuMaker View Post

Screen fit does not employ any overscanning and is the best setting with the best PQ. Only use 16:9 when you want to get rid of the annoying flickering thin white bars (Close Captioning data) at the very top of HDTV channels. Using 16:9 will overscan the picture like 2% or something.

Thanks for the info...
post #150 of 1897
Update:
I watched tron in 3d/SBS last night and the quality was stunning, the movie blows BTW.

I also tried playing a 1080p MKV file and it played perfectly off a USB drive.


I checked my setting and my eco and power settings are turned off, did not see any shifting blacks with these settings in either 2d or 3d.

Also I labeled HDMI 2(my pc input) as "PC" and the tv would not let me select "movie" picture setting unless I was in 24hz mode, as soon as I switched the label to "blu-ray" I can select "movie" mode in both 24hz and 60hz.
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