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post #241 of 1918
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Originally Posted by mikek View Post

Do you have a 51" or 59"?

51" Haven't done any slides, just watching HD content and the occasional tv program in letterbox - had it since Thursday night
post #242 of 1918
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Originally Posted by Calcvictim View Post

dynamic contrast ratio

HaHa Yep I googled before hand and found three diffrent answers, Thats why I asked here.
post #243 of 1918
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Originally Posted by frankthetoad View Post

Can someone tell me why the 59D550 isn't listed on Samsung's site yet? Seems odd.

Yes, it is so new even Samsung doesn't know about it yet.

They're updating their site.
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Originally Posted by LEGENDARY T0AD View Post

HaHa Yep I googled before hand and found three diffrent answers, Thats why I asked here.

the joke was there for 2 reasons
1)search
2)dynamic contrast ration means nothing
post #244 of 1918
the joke was there for 2 reasons
1)search
2)dynamic contrast ration means nothing[/quote]

AS you can tell I'm new to this,I am not sure what quastions to ask.Just thinking of picking up this tv and don't want to be sorry for it later.
post #245 of 1918
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Originally Posted by LEGENDARY T0AD View Post

the joke was there for 2 reasons
1)search
2)dynamic contrast ration means nothing

AS you can tell I'm new to this,I am not sure what quastions to ask.Just thinking of picking up this tv and don't want to be sorry for it later.

what do you have now?

EDIT: never mind I see what you have....looks way nicer than any plasma. I mean its still $2400 on Amazon. Just remember plasmas have way more glare. If you're OK with that, the 550s are sweet TVs
post #246 of 1918
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Originally Posted by LEGENDARY T0AD View Post

the joke was there for 2 reasons
1)search
2)dynamic contrast ration means nothing

AS you can tell I'm new to this,I am not sure what quastions to ask.Just thinking of picking up this tv and don't want to be sorry for it later.[/quote]

no probs, I am not gonna bust balls much more, glad you came here instead of some forum where all they talk about is the dynamic contrast ratio.



Many people are hung up on figures, whether they mean much or not is not always clear, even to people who have been into HT for a while.

I can give a few pointers, but not too many.

1)Believe your eyes first and foremost, if it looks good to you then you're all set.
2)When reading reviews from owners, look for more or less a consensus and do not pay attention to any single review too much. People screw up way too much in their setup to be believed.
3)When reading professional reviews, pay attention to other tvs being compared....this hobby is all about bang for the buck for most. Also make sure the positive and negative aspects are applicable to you, for example some TVs suck for gaming but for you it might not make any difference since you do not game.



With that being said I picked up a pn64d550 2 weeks a go an am very happy, no buzz, 3d is awesome, 2d is very good also....the tv is reflective but for me it is not a deal breaker, check it out in person before pulling the trigger.
post #247 of 1918
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Originally Posted by tominabox1 View Post

what do you have now?

EDIT: never mind I see what you have....looks way nicer than any plasma. I mean its still $2400 on Amazon. Just remember plasmas have way more glare. If you're OK with that, the 550s are sweet TVs

Right now I have the UN46B6000. I'm happy with it but it's starting to get cloudy in the corners and I would like something a bit larger.
post #248 of 1918
@Calcvictim
Thanks very much for the info,one more quastion does 3D use a diffrent HDMI then the standerd one I have.
post #249 of 1918
Don't buy an expensive cable. Any High Speed rated HDMI will do. I have a $4.00 cable from Monoprice that works great with Cysis 2 on my PS3.

The latest and greatest HDMI is Premium High Speed with Ethernet according to what I found on Monoprice website. That is where I get all my cables, and they work with my PS3 and Comcast HD box for 3D signals.
post #250 of 1918
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Originally Posted by LEGENDARY T0AD View Post

@Calcvictim
Thanks very much for the info,one more quastion does 3D use a diffrent HDMI then the standerd one I have.

3d uses the same hdmi port as the standard device.
post #251 of 1918
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Originally Posted by LEGENDARY T0AD View Post

@Calcvictim
Thanks very much for the info,one more quastion does 3D use a diffrent HDMI then the standerd one I have.

Yes. It needs to be 1.4 cable not the standard 1.3
post #252 of 1918
Hdmi cables bought in the last few years will work fine.
post #253 of 1918
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Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

Hdmi cables bought in the last few years will work fine.

while type 2 1.3 cables will work, they don't do everything 1.4s do, nor will they likely be as future proof. I think I paid like $6 for 1.4 on monoprice so not sure why one wouldn't just get them over the older cables, but I guess to each their own.
post #254 of 1918
i have the 51d550, and while checking aroung the service menu i think i changed a setting by mistake (not sure)

its called "type", just before model.

any help?
post #255 of 1918
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Originally Posted by jrobitaille23 View Post

Yes. It needs to be 1.4 cable not the standard 1.3

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Originally Posted by jrobitaille23 View Post

while type 2 1.3 cables will work, they don't do everything 1.4s do, nor will they likely be as future proof. I think I paid like $6 for 1.4 on monoprice so not sure why one wouldn't just get them over the older cables, but I guess to each their own.

1)the two statements are not the same, a cable not being "future proof" does not mean it doesn't work perfectly well now, stop spreading wrong information.
2)Since cables are 6 dollars a piece being future proof when it comes to cables is ludicrous, if you old one stops being adequate then you buy a new one.
post #256 of 1918
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Originally Posted by Calcvictim View Post

1)the two statements are not the same, a cable not being "future proof" does not mean it doesn't work perfectly well now, stop spreading wrong information.
2)Since cables are 6 dollars a piece being future proof when it comes to cables is ludicrous, if you old one stops being adequate then you buy a new one.

Not all 1.3 cables bought in the last few year WILL work. Nor will they work with ALL 3d devices. Thanks though.
post #257 of 1918
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Originally Posted by Aletuner View Post

I have the exact same problem. I got my 59D550 just over a week ago. I started noticing these brightness/contrast/black level "pops" here and there. Originally I thought it was my DVR's fault, because I could rewind the material, pause it, and frame by frame up to the point where the pop occurred. Then I noticed it while watching a Blu-Ray.

After that I did some experimenting. I could find a scene where the pop occurred. Then go in to my brighness/contrast/dynamic contrast/black level settings and change them up a bit. This would make the pop go away. However, they would still occur elsewhere. I have not been able to find settings yet that make it go away 100%.

I have tried everything off (Dynamic CR, black level adjustment, DNR, MPEG NR, etc. etc.) and calibrated using the WOW disc. Still get pops. Turn black level to low, normal, high, Dynamic CR the same thing, still get pops.

I also noticed while watching "Shutter Island" over the weekend that the blacks in the top and bottom letterbox areas would shift at random points throughout the movie. Once again I could replay the scene and see it happen every time, then tweak some settings and it would go away for that scene.

I am wondering if perhaps we just got some faulty sets? Is everyone who bought a 59D550 not seeing this? It's pretty obvious when it happens. I got a 2-year in home warranty with my purchase. I'm thinking about using it or taking it back to the store to get a replacement and see if that helps...

For my own edification, is there anyone here who purchased a 59" D550 that is NOT experiencing the above issue with the contrast? I am having my set replaced this weekend and am considering my options. Thanks.
post #258 of 1918
Alpha, I also saw some contrast pops last night watching The Kennedys. These contrast changes were even slighter than the ones I experienced while watching the Mentalist and the material seemed to be in SD...not sure if that matters.

So, it looks like I am definitely experiencing this....just not to the same degree you are.
post #259 of 1918
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Originally Posted by jrobitaille23 View Post

Not all 1.3 cables bought in the last few year WILL work. Nor will they work with ALL 3d devices. Thanks though.

Wrong, the spec dictates that a 1.3 compliant cable is a "high speed" cable,
the requirement for 3d is a high speed cable, therefore all 1.3 cables will work. Stop being dense and stubborn, just admit you made a mistake and move on.

HDMI 1.3:

Higher speed: HDMI 1.3 increases its single-link bandwidth to 340 MHz (10.2 Gbps) to support the demands of future HD display devices, such as higher resolutions, Deep Color and high frame rates. In addition, built into the HDMI 1.3 specification is the technical foundation that will let future versions of HDMI reach significantly higher speeds.


http://www.hdmi.org/learningcenter/faq.aspx#112



What kind of cable will I need to use for 3D?

3D video requires substantial data throughput, so you’ll want to use a High Speed HDMI cable (with or without Ethernet).


http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdm..._4_faq.aspx#19
post #260 of 1918
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Originally Posted by Aletuner View Post

For my own edification, is there anyone here who purchased a 59" D550 that is NOT experiencing the above issue with the contrast? I am having my set replaced this weekend and am considering my options. Thanks.

i've not noticed any of the "pops" that people seem to be describing on here.
post #261 of 1918
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Originally Posted by Calcvictim View Post

Wrong, the spec dictates that a 1.3 compliant cable is a "high speed" cable,
the requirement for 3d is a high speed cable, therefore all 1.3 cables will work. Stop being dense and stubborn, just admit you made a mistake and move on.

HDMI 1.3:

Higher speed: HDMI 1.3 increases its single-link bandwidth to 340 MHz (10.2 Gbps) to support the demands of future HD display devices, such as higher resolutions, Deep Color and high frame rates. In addition, built into the HDMI 1.3 specification is the technical foundation that will let future versions of HDMI reach significantly higher speeds.


http://www.hdmi.org/learningcenter/faq.aspx#112



What kind of cable will I need to use for 3D?

3D video requires substantial data throughput, so you'll want to use a High Speed HDMI cable (with or without Ethernet).


http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdm..._4_faq.aspx#19

Man arguing with the misinformed is so not worth it so I will say this and be done with it. If you want true 3d for 1080p (and honestly...is there any other viable way to view it?) you need 1.4. CAN you use 1.3...yes but to an extent and with several limitations. But you go ahead and think you are correct that's fine. Thanks again.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...After_All/4002
post #262 of 1918
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Originally Posted by jrobitaille23 View Post


Man arguing with the misinformed is so not worth it so I will say this and be done with it. If you want true 3d for 1080p (and honestly...is there any other viable way to view it?) you need 1.4. CAN you use 1.3...yes but to an extent and with several limitations. But you go ahead and think you are correct that's fine. Thanks again.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...After_All/4002

He is correct.
post #263 of 1918
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Originally Posted by jrobitaille23 View Post

Man arguing with the misinformed is so not worth it so I will say this and be done with it. If you want true 3d for 1080p (and honestly...is there any other viable way to view it?) you need 1.4. CAN you use 1.3...yes but to an extent and with several limitations. But you go ahead and think you are correct that's fine. Thanks again.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...After_All/4002

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Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

He is correct.

a high speed hdmi cable can handle 1080p 3d, the hdmi website clearly states there is no such a thing as hdmi 1.4 cables, 1.3 compliant cables are high speed and work fine for full 3d

I trust my source more then some blog website


http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/buying_guide.aspx
When it comes to selecting a cable, the HDMI version number is never relevant. There is no such thing as a “Version 1.4 cable” or “HDMI 1.3 cable” - these terms are solely the creation of manufacturers’ marketing efforts. Cables are instead rated by their performance capabilities. There are five HDMI cable types to choose from:

Standard HDMI Cable - Designed to handle most home applications, the Standard HDMI Cable can reliably transmit 1080i or 720p video plus surround audio.
Standard HDMI Cable with Ethernet - Same baseline performance as the Standard HDMI Cable, plus a dedicated Ethernet channel for Internet connection sharing and device networking.
Standard Automotive HDMI Cable - Designed for internal cabling of motor vehicles equipped with onboard HD video systems.
High Speed HDMI Cable - Designed to handle video resolutions of 1080p and beyond, including advanced display technologies like 3D and 4K.
High Speed HDMI Cable with Ethernet - Same baseline performance as the High Speed HDMI cable, plus a dedicated Ethernet channel for Internet connection sharing and device networking.
post #264 of 1918
we got way off topic here huh?
post #265 of 1918
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Originally Posted by Danno312 View Post

i've not noticed any of the "pops" that people seem to be describing on here.

Thanks Danno... how long have you had your set? How often would you guess you watch it?
post #266 of 1918
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Originally Posted by Calcvictim View Post

a high speed hdmi cable can handle 1080p 3d, the hdmi website clearly states there is no such a thing as hdmi 1.4 cables, 1.3 compliant cables are high speed and work fine for full 3d

I trust my source more then some blog website


http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/buying_guide.aspx
When it comes to selecting a cable, the HDMI version number is never relevant. There is no such thing as a Version 1.4 cable or HDMI 1.3 cable - these terms are solely the creation of manufacturers' marketing efforts. Cables are instead rated by their performance capabilities. There are five HDMI cable types to choose from:

Standard HDMI Cable - Designed to handle most home applications, the Standard HDMI Cable can reliably transmit 1080i or 720p video plus surround audio.
Standard HDMI Cable with Ethernet - Same baseline performance as the Standard HDMI Cable, plus a dedicated Ethernet channel for Internet connection sharing and device networking.
Standard Automotive HDMI Cable - Designed for internal cabling of motor vehicles equipped with onboard HD video systems.
High Speed HDMI Cable - Designed to handle video resolutions of 1080p and beyond, including advanced display technologies like 3D and 4K.
High Speed HDMI Cable with Ethernet - Same baseline performance as the High Speed HDMI cable, plus a dedicated Ethernet channel for Internet connection sharing and device networking.

When I say "he is correct". That means you!!
As i said before. Any hdmi cable bought within the last few years will be fine.
post #267 of 1918
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Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

When I say "he is correct". That means you!!
As i said before. Any hdmi cable bought within the last few years will be fine.

you guys keep up the circle jerk if you want. Not all hdmi cables from the last few years people may have purchased are highspeed. So tiger you are wrong. Calvin...I won't even bother.
post #268 of 1918
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Originally Posted by Aletuner View Post

For my own edification, is there anyone here who purchased a 59" D550 that is NOT experiencing the above issue with the contrast? I am having my set replaced this weekend and am considering my options. Thanks.


I have seen this problem on both my 51 inch as well as my friend's 59 inch. I think it is pretty much a problem across the board.
post #269 of 1918
I have roughly 70 hours on this. Will probably have it calibrated with graphs by this weekend to determine if it's to be kept. I cannot live with the brightness fluctuations nor poor blacks. We shall see soon!
post #270 of 1918
I noticed when adjusting my set under standard setting that if I turned contrast all the way up the set would adjust, then almost refocus itself and bring the contrast down while leaving it at a higher setting.. this in my head?
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