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post #271 of 1918
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Originally Posted by jrobitaille23 View Post

you guys keep up the circle jerk if you want. Not all hdmi cables from the last few years people may have purchased are highspeed. So tiger you are wrong. Calvin...I won't even bother.

I never said all cables from the last few years were high speed, I simply said that hdmi "1.4" cables are not required but any high speed cable will do. You decided to argue and now I proved you wrong and you cannot admit it.


There is no circle jerk, tigerfan has no clue.
post #272 of 1918
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Originally Posted by Calcvictim View Post

I never said all cables from the last few years were high speed, I simply said that hdmi "1.4" cables are not required but any high speed cable will do. You decided to argue and now I proved you wrong and you cannot admit it.


There is no circle jerk, tigerfan has no clue.

You ARE right that any highspeed will do. It was my bad saying you HAD to have 1.4. It was a poor choice of words. I should have said if you want the latest and greatest that has no limitations you need 1.4. Agreed about Tiger

Truce
post #273 of 1918
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Originally Posted by Aletuner View Post

For my own edification, is there anyone here who purchased a 59" D550 that is NOT experiencing the above issue with the contrast? I am having my set replaced this weekend and am considering my options. Thanks.

I purchased this TV last week and have yet to notice any of the issues (floating blacks, contrast). It looks phenomenal and after some long gaming sessions have not witnessed a hint of IR.

Also, I left gaming mode 'off' so my PQ options would not be so limited and have noticed no noticeable lag.
post #274 of 1918
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Originally Posted by tominabox1 View Post

what do you have now?

EDIT: never mind I see what you have....looks way nicer than any plasma. I mean its still $2400 on Amazon. Just remember plasmas have way more glare. If you're OK with that, the 550s are sweet TVs

Thats a high price. Plasma has more glare, but not all of the anomalies LCD / LED has.
post #275 of 1918
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Originally Posted by Calcvictim View Post


I never said all cables from the last few years were high speed, I simply said that hdmi "1.4" cables are not required but any high speed cable will do. You decided to argue and now I proved you wrong and you cannot admit it.

There is no circle jerk, tigerfan has no clue.

From someone that has no clue, I sure am right.
You can come clean. You work for Best Buy pushing those Monster hdmi cables!!
I think I gave you too much credit. You don't work at Best Buy. You go there to look at tv's and buy the tv based on how it looks in the store. Then you get the tv home and copy someones settings from this forum thinking you have just calibrated your tv. LOL

Ok. I'll stop.
post #276 of 1918
Back to our regular scheduled programming....

Nearly done with my break-in slides. I'm definitely keeping the set regardless of the handful of times I've seen the contrast shift. It happens so rarely that I think I can forgive it.

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Originally Posted by jrobitaille23 View Post
I have roughly 70 hours on this. Will probably have it calibrated with graphs by this weekend to determine if it's to be kept. I cannot live with the brightness fluctuations nor poor blacks. We shall see soon!
jrob, could you explain what's involved with having the set "calibrated with graphs?" Something tells me you've got some fancy hardware for this calibration. If not, I'd definitely be interested to hear if this is something I can do myself.
post #277 of 1918
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Originally Posted by frankthetoad View Post

Back to our regular scheduled programming....

Nearly done with my break-in slides. I'm definitely keeping the set regardless of the handful of times I've seen the contrast shift. It happens so rarely that I think I can forgive it.



jrob, could you explain what's involved with having the set "calibrated with graphs?" Something tells me you've got some fancy hardware for this calibration. If not, I'd definitely be interested to hear if this is something I can do myself.

When I say graphs it refers to the software you use along with a meter that provides graphs i.e. gamma, luminance, RGB levels, CIE, etc. These let you know how 'close' you are getting your display to perfect. I also use the DVE blu ray. It's not going to be as good as a professional calibration by no means but it'll be good enough where I couldn't notice the difference between mine and someone with better software, meter, expertise. At least I hope.

You can absolutely do this yourself and it's a lot of fun. I have two other tv's I have calibrated and if you have friends or family that need it you can hook them up also. The meters tend to run between $100 to $300. You'll then need software and there is a free version of HCFR in this forum. The DVE (Digital Video Essentials) or WOW (Walt Disney calibration disc) and I think there are others...may be $20. It takes a little studying but there is a very helpful guide that will walk you through it. It's a fun new skill to pick up. I highly recommend it.

Here's the guide. Have fun!

http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10457
post #278 of 1918
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Originally Posted by jrobitaille23 View Post

When I say graphs it refers to the software you use along with a meter that provides graphs i.e. gamma, luminance, RGB levels, CIE, etc. These let you know how 'close' you are getting your display to perfect. I also use the DVE blu ray. It's not going to be as good as a professional calibration by no means but it'll be good enough where I couldn't notice the difference between mine and someone with better software, meter, expertise. At least I hope.

You can absolutely do this yourself and it's a lot of fun. I have two other tv's I have calibrated and if you have friends or family that need it you can hook them up also. The meters tend to run between $100 to $300. You'll then need software and there is a free version of HCFR in this forum. The DVE (Digital Video Essentials) or WOW (Walt Disney calibration disc) and I think there are others...may be $20. It takes a little studying but there is a very helpful guide that will walk you through it. It's a fun new skill to pick up. I highly recommend it.

Here's the guide. Have fun!

http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10457

Thanks for the info. I've got both DVE and WOW and use both to calibrate...but I'm always looking for something besides a professional calibrator to help me fine tune my settings. I'm pretty happy with everything except the various color settings.

Just followed your link...I may have to pick up one of those meters!
post #279 of 1918
Just got my 64D550 today set it up on a temporary stand till my new one gets here tomorrow. I'm coming from a Toshiba 57HX83 RPCRT so the new TV's picture just pops, nice and vibrant crisp picture compared to the old TV. Blacks are nice and black and colors look very natural right out of the box.

The only thing is that after watching regular HD TV channels the picture looks off to me almost like there's a slight haze over the entire picture it not very crisp it's slightly soft. I'm pretty sure it's just the crappy quality of the shows but i'm sure once I really sit down this weekend and watch TV all day i'll get used to it. Oh I have TW cable and a explorer 8300HD DVR box.

Movies look outstanding 720p and 1080p. Haven't tried the 3D yet the glasses should be here tomorrow. Glare is just as bad as the old TV but doesn't bother me as I only really watch the TV at night and usually with no lights on. My wife definitely hears a buzz, I can't hear any but she has super hearing and she says she can't really hear it when the volume is at normal listening level.

First impressions are excellent once I get my new stand and eventually wall mount this sucker I'm sure I'll forget all about my old TV.

Question: Is there a way to completely turn the TV speakers off I can't find any way to do this.
post #280 of 1918
Yeah you can turn off the speakers, its in the menu thing.
post #281 of 1918
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Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

From someone that has no clue, I sure am right.
You can come clean. You work for Best Buy pushing those Monster hdmi cables!!
I think I gave you too much credit. You don't work at Best Buy. You go there to look at tv's and buy the tv based on how it looks in the store. Then you get the tv home and copy someones settings from this forum thinking you have just calibrated your tv. LOL

Ok. I'll stop.

Circuit City dude
post #282 of 1918
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Originally Posted by tominabox1 View Post
Yeah you can turn off the speakers, its in the menu thing.
I'll look again I thought I looked through them all.
post #283 of 1918
Anyone have any calibration settings for the d550 ?
post #284 of 1918
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Originally Posted by LEGENDARY T0AD View Post

Anyone have any calibration settings for the d550 ?

Do you mean from a professional calibrator? If you just mean settings that others are using...there are several posted in this thread.
post #285 of 1918
Hey, all!

This may be a horribly, horribly stupid question (first post and all), but does this set have any "motion smoothing" filters like on some of the 120Hz/240Hz LCD displays I've seen? I know most people hate it, but I think it's kind of a neat effect and I think I'd like to have the option for it. Cinema Smooth, which I've seen mentioned a few times, seems to be specifically for film sources at 24fps, right? So it wouldn't work on, say, Xbox 360 games?

I'd appreciate any insight you can shed on this! Thanks!
post #286 of 1918
So after using this for 5 days the TV rocks. I'm untrained, but not uncritical, and have noticed no buzzing or black shifting or anything else. We watch in our basement, but it's not pitch black down here and we generally keep the overhead (recessed cans) lights on. The glare is noticable when the TV is off, but who cares.

My main complaint is a 1/8" lean (left to right) that is very visible in my situation because there's a row of shelving immediately overhead (so your eye can track the non-levelness across the length of the TV). I fixed this through using two tiny plastic shims covered in electrical/friction tape under the feet on the right hand side. The base flexes just a tiny bit, but otherwise this seems to have corrected the problem. I think with a TV this wide and a base this small they should have built in some leveling feet or something.
post #287 of 1918
After 100 hours I started to calibrate using an Eye One Lt and HCFR. I immediately realized that the blacks have improved but as I tried to do the greyscale the software would freeze up and after a couple of times of this happening I gave up. My first impressions of the blacks sucking have changed. They are decent now. I would still rank them than lower than V10, S1, PK550, and EX500 but not by as much as before. I am going to give it another 100 hours or until I get impatient and then I will do the full calibration. I will say that a buzz has started that is annoying. I can hear it over low volume. I have not seen the brightness fluctuation from before however.
post #288 of 1918
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Originally Posted by kylejn View Post

Hey, all!

This may be a horribly, horribly stupid question (first post and all), but does this set have any "motion smoothing" filters like on some of the 120Hz/240Hz LCD displays I've seen? I know most people hate it, but I think it's kind of a neat effect and I think I'd like to have the option for it. Cinema Smooth, which I've seen mentioned a few times, seems to be specifically for film sources at 24fps, right? So it wouldn't work on, say, Xbox 360 games?

I'd appreciate any insight you can shed on this! Thanks!

That effect made games look unbelievably awesome. In fact that was one of the reasons I got a 120hz LCD. Turns out, while awesome looking, it made games completely unplayable due to the lag the effect caused.

As far as I'm aware there is nothing like that on this tv.
post #289 of 1918
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Originally Posted by Axiom Divine View Post

That effect made games look unbelievably awesome. In fact that was one of the reasons I got a 120hz LCD. Turns out, while awesome looking, it made games completely unplayable due to the lag the effect caused.

As far as I'm aware there is nothing like that on this tv.

Alright, cool - thanks for the information!
post #290 of 1918
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Originally Posted by jcricket View Post

So after using this for 5 days the TV rocks.

It does, especially for the price point.
post #291 of 1918
Debating between a PN59D550 and PN59D6500. I'm primarily concerned with 2d viewing, as I'm not a fan of 3d at all. Is the 6500 worth the extra $$?
post #292 of 1918
Samsung replaced my c550 with the d550. I am extremely pleased. The PQ is great and all the things wrong with the c550 are not present in this model.

I have a question: is there any good reason to go into the service menu?

-mk
post #293 of 1918
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Originally Posted by jrobitaille23 View Post

Man arguing with the misinformed is so not worth it so I will say this and be done with it. If you want true 3d for 1080p (and honestly...is there any other viable way to view it?) you need 1.4. CAN you use 1.3...yes but to an extent and with several limitations. But you go ahead and think you are correct that's fine. Thanks again.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...After_All/4002

From www.hdmi.org - but, what would they know?

"What kind of cable will I need to use for 3D?
3D video requires substantial data throughput, so you'll want to use a High Speed HDMI cable (with or without Ethernet)."


BTW, there is no such thing as a 1.4 cable. It's a spec and it's a connector.

Edit: Oops I see that was referenced on the previous page but I'm gonna leave it here anyway.
post #294 of 1918
Has anyone checked to see if you can activate the full Color Management System in the service menu as could be accomplished last year in the C500s?
post #295 of 1918
I was looking on samsung.com for the PN51D550 and couldn't find a page, anyone know why? There's no mention of D550 line at all for that matter...
post #296 of 1918
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Originally Posted by EvanVanVan View Post

I was looking on samsung.com for the PN51D550 and couldn't find a page, anyone know why? There's no mention of D550 line at all for that matter...

too new, they are updating the website I guess...
post #297 of 1918
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Originally Posted by bumoftheday View Post

Debating between a PN59D550 and PN59D6500. I'm primarily concerned with 2d viewing, as I'm not a fan of 3d at all. Is the 6500 worth the extra $$?

Well the only major difference besides 3D on these two is that the 6500 has a quality glare filter.. Im not sure if the 550 has a glare filter at all.
post #298 of 1918
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Originally Posted by hotskins View Post

Well the only major difference besides 3D on these two is that the 6500 has a quality glare filter.. Im not sure if the 550 has a glare filter at all.

Does anyone have a download url for the 6500 user manual? I can't find it anywhere.
post #299 of 1918
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

Does anyone have a download url for the 6500 user manual? I can't find it anywhere.

form the Samsung 2011 Plasma Lineup thread: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/do...PN51D6500DFXZA


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Originally Posted by hotskins View Post

Well the only major difference besides 3D on these two is that the 6500 has a quality glare filter.. Im not sure if the 550 has a glare filter at all.

Sorry, I missed something...What's the difference in the 3D for these two?
post #300 of 1918
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Originally Posted by EvanVanVan View Post




Sorry, I missed something...What's the difference in the 3D for these two?

I didnt think the D550 had 3D
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