3D Theatre - VIP Product Thread - Page 55

Looks like 3DNow and VIP3D will previewing the new Theater+ unit this coming January. One eye-catcher for the projection users are some added sync modes plus 7.2 audio and distributed multi-zone 3D.

I don't see the Displayer and Gamer versions mentioned so there may be a possiblity of their phaseout with 3DNow taking over distributorship.

Sync Freqs: 60, 72, 96, 120.


http://3dnow.com/product.html

Well, I don't mind saying, I'm a bit disappointed. My Optima does 60,70,75,85Hz, so the added sync options do nothing for me. And my VIP unit is placed after my receiver, so I have no need for the audio feature.

Ditto for the distributed multizone.

There's also no mention of dual-projector support.

Guess I'll stick with what I have for now, and start saving up for a new setup down the line...

My understanding of it at this point is this, if my projector's max V-sync=85Hz. then Theater+ will
set output to 72Hz for the next best matching sync rate. Using an Optoma HD20 as an example, V-sync= 24-85Hz, so the same would apply. Don't know what model you have.

Multizone might interest me since I use two different displays in the same area. Front projector and DLP RPJ; that way I could eliminate the HDMI switcher which sometimes gives me problems.

Not much can be said about dual projector hardware at this time.

In any event I hope to be beta testing one either way.

Sorry to here nothing on the dual projector use. Could you check? and what's in development for the displayer?

They might give me something to post regarding dual projectors on Friday, even if they don't do it by then it's a good bet there is something cooking.

Nothing is going on for the Displayer/Gamer, so if there is new hardware
around the corner then those devices will probably be discontinued. Just my opinion until they give me something official to post but it would make sense especially with the new partnership with 3DNow.

After revisiting the 3DNow web site I did notice they mentioned that Theater+ version for the CI market. It appears the initial version will be for the "integrators/installers", will need to wait and see
what would be in a consumer version.

Visual Apex have the Optoma RF glasses and emitter for $99

http://www.visualapex.com/accessorie...toma&Type=Misc

They suck. I ordered one pair of glasses ($79) and one with the RF emitter ($99) and they sent me two glasses and no emitter. They came in two separate shipments. I won't go into details with the delay with the FedEx signature requirement - even though I specified no signature required and one of the packages was indeed delivered without signature. Man, I'm just livid with them. I even called them on Thursday regarding the order and when I got the final package, no emitter. And of course, Visual Apex customer service is closed on the weekend. I feel like ordering just the emitter from B&H photo and dealing with VA later. I can imagine that VA probably didn't have them in stock anyway.

(Bump)

No ideas on this?

David

Not enough info to work with Dave. What 3D player and projector and 3D content are you using? Store bought or ripped? 1280/720P/60,23.97,29.79, in other words, give us full signal specs of what is not working.

G'day

Hi SgtVideo,

It was an abreviated bump of this previous question, sorry.

This is for a small ride theater. We have a system working now but only for 24 fps material. Since our library includes 29.97/30 fps material we would like to have that work as well.

The current video chain is: QuVis video server with dual stream (left and right) HD-SDI output. This goes into a Black Magic 3D box that converts it to HDMI 1.4 in a frame packed format. This goes into the VIP that turns it into frame sequential. From the VIP we go into a Christie Mirage HD 6k projector that doubles the frame rate and projects it. We are using Christie glasses and a NuVision emitter, both if which work well.

Our first surprise is that the VIP converts 1080 material to 720 so we lose a little resolution and have to rescale it. But we just can't get 29.97/30p material to work. It also takes 23.98/24 material and does a 3/2 process to turn it into 60 fps. We can live with that although it causes visible judder.

The VIP data sheet mentions 1080p 30 frame packed but we can't seem to make it work.

Regards,
David

Hi David,

I tried looking at a Christie HD6 manual but it looked like the version I downloaded already have 3D capability. But then you wouldn't need
the Theater if your model were already 3D capable.

Glancing through it there are quite a few customization options that may have a bearing but with the other devices you are using for reprocessing, I am not astute enough to understand their impact on that projector's options.

For instance, in the 1080P/30 mode that is not working, is the projector running under "frame lock' or "free running" setting? Might be an area
worth checking.

Of course I don't own anything as sophisticated as what you are using.

I can only recommend that you try to reach Jonathan and perhaps he can have his partner assist you. I talked to Jonathan Wednesday so it is my understanding that he will be doing a lot of intermittent travel starting this weekend, so there may be some delay before he can respond.

I will PM his phone number and the support email address. In the email outline
what you have done above but make sure you include "full" model numbers so they can download what they need.

Sorry I couldn't provide a better answer.

g'day
SgtVideo

The Christie has 3D capibility only in that it will take a frame sequential signal and double flash it. It also takes the glasses sync signal and lets you vary dark interval and timing to optimize the drive to the glasses. It doesn't take HDMI 1.4 type 3D formats.

Our real problem is that the Quvis server outputs dual stream 3D (only) which we would typically send to 2 projectors with passive filtereing. To send it to a single projector we need a way to turn the dual streams into a frame interleaved sequence, so we are doing the roundabout approach of turning it into frame packed 3D and then letting the VIP do its thing.

I'll try and contact Jonathon.

Thanks,
David S.

how can i contact the seller for this product or Jonathan directly im thinking about purchasing vip theater for my LG LCD 1080p will it work for it and How is everyone experience using this product. also im thinking to purchase the acer H5360 what do you guys think or can i might as well get one good projector that display great 1080p image with no 3d, will a non 3d projector work with this product

what do you guys think about VIP 3d theater is it great quality

can any one give me information about this product

which projector will be great for this product

can i attach a 2d to 3d adapter with VIP 3d Theater to experience 3d quality with none 3d

From a price to performance perspective the Optoma HD66 might be worth considering and possibly the Acer5360. Study those relevant threads in the under $3000 projector area of the forums.

Theater will not improve such a conversion and if it is formatted in the wrong acceptable video mode it won't be visible. Input to the Theater needs to be in it's published datasheet listings.

When VIP3D began it's initial release of products they were for direct purchase from them and two other vendors. Now that 3DNow is taking over global distribution that is no longer the case. It's my understanding that new vendors will be added shortly, so for now, product is only available from Consignia in Canada.

The Displayer and Gamer will be dropped from current production to make room for expected new hardware shortly.

Theater and upcoming Theater Plus will be the current offerings. Here is the 3DNow web link:

http://3dnow.com/

Start here first:

http://3dnow.com/

The Theater outputs a 1280x720P/60 or 120hz 3D signal depending on the capability of the projector or TV. The Acer 5360 I believe will do 120hz.

The upcoming Theater Plus will have 1080P 3D capability to my understanding and will initially be released to the installers. The 3DNow site shows it available in 2012 to the CI market.

Well I am happy with it for use with my Panasonic AE4000 projector at 60 hz. There are those that don't like some of the flicker from the shutter glasses at that frequency but I am fine with it and tune out as best as possible with RF glasses. Whether you would tolerate cannot be determined, so if your already considering getting something like the Acer then you shouldn't have that issue.

My Samsung rear projection DLP TV has a frame lock issue with it so I don't use it with that set. Maintaining frame sync is an unknown unless other users make mention of it or whether VIP3D already has knowledge of it from their support experiences.

You would still be well advised to review some of these threads to back around June to present to find other opinions.

I have the VIP Theater with my Optoma HD66 and so far it has been working flawlessly. Whether it is for 3d bluray, ps3 games, SbS files via PC. The glasses sync perfectly with the HD66 via dlplink. it has been smooth sailing since day one that I don't need to come to this forum for any issue very often. I am just here to monitor any updates for the product.
So yes, I am happy with the product.

Sorry to here that. I was hoping to maybe add another displayer to use in a 2 projector setup mode assuming software was available to do this.

what would be the most recommended devices projector and glasses compatible with this VIP 3d Theater and also best lcd Monitor

Optoma 3D-XL 3D Vs. The VIP 3D Theater Pros And Cons

Use the Optoma if you need dual-projector support, and/or if your projector is on the list of supported displays.

Use the VIP products if you need support for non-3d displays, or if you plan on viewing on a non-3d flat panel as well. Also with VIP you can "step down" to the Displayer if you don't need broadcast 3d capability.

If you plan on hooking up a separate 2d-3d converter box in line, read the appropriate thread for compatibility issues:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ight=converter
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ight=converter

Hey guys i am very great full with the response i have in mind, that if im going out for a projector might as well go all out for a descent projector, Price budget Range (1,200 To 2,000). I am very interested in this two 3D projector because it display 1080p quality In 3D mode. Please feel free to comment of any other projector that is worth having in mind. Also if there is any one that had experience with more than 3 great 3d 1080p Projector please rate them in a scale One throw Ten and i would really appreciate if projector users explain why did they rate the number they gave it as of quick details of Pros And Cons. OK so here we go i am interested in this two projector First would be Cinema 3010 Projector made by Epson Pros : It comes with two glasses and state that it would play 3D in Full 1080p Quality and don't forget there contrast ratio 40,000 to 1 Cons : Not so Much review And the Second one is the Optoma Technology HD33 DLP Projector Pros : Great review state that it would play 3d in full 1080p quality Cons : not so good with contract ratio and does not bring glasses with it what do you guy think

What is dual-projector support sorry i am new to this new 3d world. But opened for knowledge

Two projectors - one for each eye view - through polarizing filters for a passive-glasses setup:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...or,2589-6.html
http://www.kaelhankins.com/diy-dual-...or-3d-display/
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1299974

Displayer/Theater just don't have the horsepower to do it, hence the subject matter of my PM to you.