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post #1711 of 2235
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Originally Posted by skyfiction View Post

so anything can output the 3D signal from HDMI 1.4 then 3D-VIP theatre/Displayer also can process and come out the 3D movies from the 2D TV/projector, right?

Provided the source matches the datasheets of acceptable video input specifications of the Displayer and Theater. Otherwise unexpected results.

An HTPC builder would have to decide whether a software solution Like Power DVD is more viable for 3D than using the VIP3D product.

Power DVD 11 claims 3D BluRay playback, so if that's your interest then you would more than likely research that forum and get input on it's playback quality. Whether it can accomplish that on non-3D video displays I haven't spent time to find out. Others here may already know the answer to that.

If the VIP3D product is used with an HTPC you may have to customize your resolutions and timings to match the datasheet. Some individuals failed at accomplishing that. Same situation applies to media player devices.
post #1712 of 2235
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Originally Posted by skyfiction View Post

so anything can output the 3D signal from HDMI 1.4 then 3D-VIP theatre/Displayer also can process and come out the 3D movies from the 2D TV/projector, right?

Based on the info I got seems that way. So it begs the question, if one uses streaming video recording software to "capture" internet video, and the captured video is in a container able to play through TMT5 or PDVD11 is it safe to say, Yes, the 3D-VIP Displayer also does inet vid only pre-captured as opposed to on the fly live streaming. The info I got was re:Theater but still begs the question for the displayer.

I do not have the unit yet but I can say some of the media I have that is in 3d, downloads and demos both from Bluray disks and previous internet "streaming/download content", shows SBS when I play it through TMT5. Both the Theater and the Displayer can sync SBS so I'm pretty sure it will work.

Also, I gave my specs, system info, and what I plan on doing info to Kal, and he said it would work. But I don't know if that is because I also have a DVDO iScan Duo handling my vid processing and vid output. When I get the unit I will test with out the DVDO inline. I'm pretty confidant it will work, as I know from another forum, Curtpalme, TMT5 and Power DVD work with the unit both blurays and harddrive based "media". This lead to my decision to get the unit... just waiting on backorder glasses...
post #1713 of 2235
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Originally Posted by SgtVideo View Post

If you were able to interface two Optoma HD66s or Acer 5360s to form a dual projector passive system with a moderate priced adapter would you consider it?

Both projectors would have to be the same for proper 3D convergence, no mix and match.

Since this was brought up, there's an interesting thread which goes into quite a lot of discussion about a dual projector 3D setup.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1280393

I'm about halfway through it and am learning a LOT about the polarization of light, which projectors are suitable for this type of setup, suitable screens, etc. This isn't a particularly inexpensive setup, but if a simple to use, reasonably priced adapter were on the market which could decode the right/left of a 3D disk and send it to the appropriate projector this could be a reasonable solution for a lot of people. One of the big advantages of this kind of setup is that it minimizes or eliminates some of the typical problems we see in 3D (even in theaters) and the brightness and color quality is outstanding if done correctly.
post #1714 of 2235
Dear,
I wonder are there have any details review/testing for displayer/theater working at 60Hz TV.

and I wonder if the room is 70% dark, is enough to prevent the flicker on 60Hz glasses speed.

now the main concert for me to buy the theatre is none of shop can let me try the 60Hz glasses how flickre it is(maybe I didn't feel it or maybe I feel very serious).....for 120Hz, I can go any shop and try those 3DTV.

hope anyone who using the theatre for your 60Hz TV and give some advice for me.

Thank you~!
post #1715 of 2235
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Originally Posted by skyfiction View Post

Dear,
I wonder are there have any details review/testing for displayer/theater working at 60Hz TV.

and I wonder if the room is 70% dark, is enough to prevent the flicker on 60Hz glasses speed.

now the main concert for me to buy the theatre is none of shop can let me try the 60Hz glasses how flickre it is(maybe I didn't feel it or maybe I feel very serious).....for 120Hz, I can go any shop and try those 3DTV.

hope anyone who using the theatre for your 60Hz TV and give some advice for me.

Thank you~!

Do a search on this thread, and the Displayer thread. One user posted a clip of lamp flicker that approximates the effect.
post #1716 of 2235
I want to sell my VIP theatre with emitter if any body interrested tell me how to contact with him ?
post #1717 of 2235
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Originally Posted by tsamy View Post

I want to sell my VIP theatre with emitter if any body interrested tell me how to contact with him ?

I'm interest but I'm in Hong Kong, can I ?
post #1718 of 2235
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Originally Posted by skyfiction View Post

Dear,
I wonder are there have any details review/testing for displayer/theater working at 60Hz TV.

and I wonder if the room is 70% dark, is enough to prevent the flicker on 60Hz glasses speed.

now the main concert for me to buy the theatre is none of shop can let me try the 60Hz glasses how flickre it is(maybe I didn't feel it or maybe I feel very serious).....for 120Hz, I can go any shop and try those 3DTV.

hope anyone who using the theatre for your 60Hz TV and give some advice for me.

Thank you~!

Unfortunately the answer to flicker is very subjective with individual sensitivity, tolerance and also how well they learn to tune the RF glasses to minimize it.

I don't know what 3DNow's policy will be when they begin the distribution of the VIP3D products. Jonathan used to allow 30 days.

One thing you could consider if you are going to initially use the Theater with a 60hz video display, is to go ahead and get RF glasses, perhaps down the road you find a good buy on a DLP projector, now you already have glasses that will sync with that as well.

If I remember correctly, you can verify with Bit Cauldron, the RF glasses will operate up to 200Hz.

Personally I prefer watching 3D on a projection screen because of it's size and immersion. Yes I am doing it at 60hz as well on a Panny AE4000. As long as you don't have a light source in other areas intruding into your field of view then flicker will be a minor issue. It is somewhat apparent in bright, high contrast scenes, like full sun on a desert and such. You can minimize to a decent compromise by utilizing the tuning mode.

After good tuning you will be paying more attention to the 3D depth rather than occasional flickering in those brighter scenes.

Just keep in mind that most companies will not accept the return of 3D glasses after they have been used. They will exchange if defective naturally.


Monstervision and Optoma RF glasses are compatible with the 3D Theater. VIP3d/3DNow is currently completing final testing of their next generation of 3D glasses. It sounds like they have taken to heart some of the improvements folks mentioned on here earlier this year. Will post more about these when the info is provided.

I just completed beta testing on a new firmware update for the current RF transmitter. Basically it will have presets for various displays and still allow manual adjustment. It's my understanding some of the presets minimize flicker. When they finish making a few changes and supply the documentation, then it will be made available for download. The program installed and ran without issues, since I don't have various displays, I could only visually detect the changes to the 3D image as I stepped through the presets. I believe there were about 25 presets.

A save file function as also been added to the glasses management utility.
post #1719 of 2235
Yes, I will order the RF glasses, actually I will use projector for VIP3D too but not at this moment.
as you say you are using the AE4000 with VIP3D, right?! are you using it at 720/120Hz? since I know many people say VIP3D with DLP projector even is 60Hz still working very well. does it also in LCD projector?

did you upscale from VIP3D 720p to 1080p before into AE4000? or just keep using 720p on it?
post #1720 of 2235
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Originally Posted by skyfiction View Post

Yes, I will order the RF glasses, actually I will use projector for VIP3D too but not at this moment.
as you say you are using the AE4000 with VIP3D, right?! are you using it at 720/120Hz? since I know many people say VIP3D with DLP projector even is 60Hz still working very well. does it also in LCD projector?

did you upscale from VIP3D 720p to 1080p before into AE4000? or just keep using 720p on it?

If u pass 2d 1080p via vip3d to ae4000 seems to work as a straightfwd passthrough. If you pass 3d 1080p half-sbs mkv file through it and then press button on VIP unit to merge it will fail. U need to pass the 3d source as 720p into VIP unit.

The PS3 seems to output only 720p 3d framepacked into vip so it works ok by default.

Just my personal experience
post #1721 of 2235
Hi Guys,

I am new to the AVS forum but I'm a long time AV system enthusiast and I've been experimenting 3D Gaming since about 8 years with the EDimentionnal glass and I recently witness a Glass-less 50inch 3D HDTV at a client office... I got used to the 60FPS (30FPS/Eye) and I must say that despite being very picky about AV quality, It was more then efficient to play doom3 and far-cry and to jump out of my computer chair when that monster teared the door and punch me haha...

Until now, I had to keep my 19in CRT to play 3D while enjoying movies on a 120inch projector so I kinda forgot about 3D until now. Knowing that glass-less 3D TV are coming in the next 5years, I didn't wanted to spend a lot on a new 3D TV setup, especially since I have 2x 32inch LCD and the projector.

So I've just ordered this converter (3d displayers) and being an electronic engineer I'm already dreaming about the possibility of building an holodeck, maybe using the xbox kinect to sense my motion and activate a treadmill or something like that, eventually a moving platform just like flight simulator... Using the move with the gun to play Resistance 3 and replacing the thumb-stick by a motion detector...

Anyway, my question is can I keep more than 1 of these unit in sync with the same pair of glass or its a random process that you need to get very lucky to,let say sync 3 of these vip vox?

I'm asking because my next step is to improve to 120FPS projector as they are getting very cheap now, I could get 3 and project to 3 adjacent wall the output of a flight simulator or PC racing game or even Unreal Tournament with the left and right screen being a pov mod self observer.. And If they can be in sync, what would be the result... Maybe some freak like me already did it and can shed some light before I spend 3K$ on 2 more VIP and new projectors... for now my setup is 120inch projector screen 1024x768x60 (center screen) and 2x 32in 1024x600x60 (left and right) Left and right are less important to have in 3D since when looking to the main center screen, only one eye see each side screen so no 3D possible there unless I turn my head.

And Finally, for pc game, Do I really need that or a nvidia 3d with 3x 3d ready DLP projector should do the job? I'm still gonna use the 3d displayers on my PS3 but I'm unsure about 3d ready technologies... to me it just look like if it had a sufficient refresh rate for flicker-less 3d its 3d-ready altho the supported hdmi 3d format seem to differ and suffer from incompatibility, in that case would 2x 3d-gamers with 1x 3d-displayer work fine in sync from both the same and different sources (flight sim allow me to output to 3 screen from the same pc but unreal need 3 pc where 2 are setup as observer) will both work?

Many thanks.
post #1722 of 2235
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Originally Posted by madhak View Post

Hi Guys,

I am new to the AVS forum but I'm a long time AV system enthusiast and I've been experimenting 3D Gaming since about 8 years with the EDimentionnal glass and I recently witness a Glass-less 50inch 3D HDTV at a client office... I got used to the 60FPS (30FPS/Eye) and I must say that despite being very picky about AV quality, It was more then efficient to play doom3 and far-cry and to jump out of my computer chair when that monster teared the door and punch me haha...

Until now, I had to keep my 19in CRT to play 3D while enjoying movies on a 120inch projector so I kinda forgot about 3D until now. Knowing that glass-less 3D TV are coming in the next 5years, I didn't wanted to spend a lot on a new 3D TV setup, especially since I have 2x 32inch LCD and the projector.

So I've just ordered this converter (3d displayers) and being an electronic engineer I'm already dreaming about the possibility of building an holodeck, maybe using the xbox kinect to sense my motion and activate a treadmill or something like that, eventually a moving platform just like flight simulator... Using the move with the gun to play Resistance 3 and replacing the thumb-stick by a motion detector...

Anyway, my question is can I keep more than 1 of these unit in sync with the same pair of glass or its a random process that you need to get very lucky to,let say sync 3 of these vip vox?

I'm asking because my next step is to improve to 120FPS projector as they are getting very cheap now, I could get 3 and project to 3 adjacent wall the output of a flight simulator or PC racing game or even Unreal Tournament with the left and right screen being a pov mod self observer.. And If they can be in sync, what would be the result... Maybe some freak like me already did it and can shed some light before I spend 3K$ on 2 more VIP and new projectors... for now my setup is 120inch projector screen 1024x768x60 (center screen) and 2x 32in 1024x600x60 (left and right) Left and right are less important to have in 3D since when looking to the main center screen, only one eye see each side screen so no 3D possible there unless I turn my head.

And Finally, for pc game, Do I really need that or a nvidia 3d with 3x 3d ready DLP projector should do the job? I'm still gonna use the 3d displayers on my PS3 but I'm unsure about 3d ready technologies... to me it just look like if it had a sufficient refresh rate for flicker-less 3d its 3d-ready altho the supported hdmi 3d format seem to differ and suffer from incompatibility, in that case would 2x 3d-gamers with 1x 3d-displayer work fine in sync from both the same and different sources (flight sim allow me to output to 3 screen from the same pc but unreal need 3 pc where 2 are setup as observer) will both work?

Many thanks.

I hope I understand your question correctly, so I will just make a general statement in regards to the RF glasses.

The RF glasses only store the "current" settings after 2 minutes of non-adjustments. Any changes will overwrite the previous setting stored.

The other two major variables that cause a need of retuning are: (1) Change in source of playback device, as in going from BluRay player to cable converter, or (2) using a different video display from the previous that you tuned to.

This applies to the current firmware of the transmitter.

So if you are going to output one signal to multiple displays I would think you will be encountering problems viewing with the same glasses.

If someone has been successful I sure would like to hear about it.
post #1723 of 2235
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Originally Posted by SgtVideo View Post

I hope I understand your question correctly, so I will just make a general statement in regards to the RF glasses.

The RF glasses only store the "current" settings after 2 minutes of non-adjustments. Any changes will overwrite the previous setting stored.

The other two major variables that cause a need of retuning are: (1) Change in source of playback device, as in going from BluRay player to cable converter, or (2) using a different video display from the previous that you tuned to.

This applies to the current firmware of the transmitter.

So if you are going to output one signal to multiple displays I would think you will be encountering problems viewing with the same glasses.

If someone has been successful I sure would like to hear about it.

Thanks for the clarification, Kal from curtpalme explained the same thing however, we got a bit more technical and its not completely impossible but this would require modifying the VIP box to share a common clock for "page-flip" operation... I will look at the internal circuitry and if I can reverse engineer it, I should be able to make it work... I'll let you know in the near future... but I'm not even sure the unit shipped yet...

If anyone have a picture of the internal circuitry I would really appreciate, I can tell if it need to be changed in the FW or the PCB depending if it use external resonator...
post #1724 of 2235
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Originally Posted by madhak View Post

Thanks for the clarification, Kal from curtpalme explained the same thing however, we got a bit more technical and its not completely impossible but this would require modifying the VIP box to share a common clock for "page-flip" operation... I will look at the internal circuitry and if I can reverse engineer it, I should be able to make it work... I'll let you know in the near future... but I'm not even sure the unit shipped yet...

If anyone have a picture of the internal circuitry I would really appreciate, I can tell if it need to be changed in the FW or the PCB depending if it use external resonator...

Please keep us updated. I'm building a triple-screen racing sim rig w/ three projectors and would like to know if it's possible to sync one pair of glasses to all three. I'm pretty sure it is using Nvidia 3D Vision surround and those glasses but I wanted to also experiment with consoles perhaps (Gran Turismo 5 in 3D, for example, or hopefully the next Forza game will support 3D as it already does triple-screen in 2D...)
post #1725 of 2235
Sure, as soon as I get the unit I'll start the rev engineering, I love to do that... If successful I'll create an instructable post but i'm curious how did you got the PS3 to output on multiple screen? you must need some sort of module? can you really have 3x HD output from 1 HDMI?? I thought it has a max bandwidth that allow 1080p only so your 3 screen must run in low def? Please let me know.

Thanks
post #1726 of 2235
Never mind, found how here: http://www.avforums.com/forums/ps3/1...en-racing.html

Does require 3 PS3 with 3 game... just like I do with some PC game that doesn't support multiple screen...
post #1727 of 2235
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Originally Posted by madhak View Post

Never mind, found how here: http://www.avforums.com/forums/ps3/1...en-racing.html

Does require 3 PS3 with 3 game... just like I do with some PC game that doesn't support multiple screen...

Yep, I don't have three PS3 yet, but I do have three 360's and three copies of Forza. Too bad that one is only 2D!
post #1728 of 2235
I want to get a VIP 3D Theatre, but want to find out if it's compatible with my hardware. My source(s) are an HTPC w/ PowerDVD 11, PS3 and Motorola FIOS DVR, which goes through an Onkyo TX-SR876 and out to a Mitsubishi WD-73735 and Epson 6500UB. I am aware of the possible timing issues with the HTPC, but I have the PS3, so it's not really a concern. The main thing I want to ensure is that I can connect through my AVR (can the VIP pass TrueHD/DTS-MA?) and onto the Epson. If anyone has experience with the VIP device with the Onkyo TX-SR876 or Epson 6500UB, I would very much appreciate your input. Thanks! -Thomas.
post #1729 of 2235
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Originally Posted by twsnnva View Post

I want to get a VIP 3D Theatre, but want to find out if it's compatible with my hardware. My source(s) are an HTPC w/ PowerDVD 11, PS3 and Motorola FIOS DVR, which goes through an Onkyo TX-SR876 and out to a Mitsubishi WD-73735 and Epson 6500UB. I am aware of the possible timing issues with the HTPC, but I have the PS3, so it's not really a concern. The main thing I want to ensure is that I can connect through my AVR (can the VIP pass TrueHD/DTS-MA?) and onto the Epson. If anyone has experience with the VIP device with the Onkyo TX-SR876 or Epson 6500UB, I would very much appreciate your input. Thanks! -Thomas.

Hi Thomas, I'm not the expert, I have yet to receive the VIP box but I've spoke with Kal from curtpalme and he had answer for those same question;

I have looked on-line and this receiver features 4 x HDMI 1.3a, you will need HDMI1.4 to pass the 3D from your PC or PS3 to the VIP box... so in your case you have to put the VIP in between your PS3 or PC to your Receiver. The signal that goes to the VIP must be HDMI1.4 and signal getting out the VIP is HDMI1.1+. There was an issue with Surround pass-trough with VIP box but it seem it has been fixed in latest firmware but I haven't tried yet, worst case you can always use optical out.

Hope this help.
post #1730 of 2235
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Originally Posted by madhak View Post

Hi Thomas, I'm not the expert, I have yet to receive the VIP box but I've spoke with Kal from curtpalme and he had answer for those same question;

I have looked on-line and this receiver features 4 x HDMI 1.3a, you will need HDMI1.4 to pass the 3D from your PC or PS3 to the VIP box... so in your case you have to put the VIP in between your PS3 or PC to your Receiver. The signal that goes to the VIP must be HDMI1.4 and signal getting out the VIP is HDMI1.1+. There was an issue with Surround pass-trough with VIP box but it seem it has been fixed in latest firmware but I haven't tried yet, worst case you can always use optical out.

Hope this help.

Thanks, Madhak! I've just started digging into 3D. I also have a Mits 73" "3D Ready" TV and just got one of the 3D adapters for it, only to find it won't work with my receiver. I only learned of the VIP device last night, but to think I could use this with my PJ is very cool! I've seen others using 1.3 receivers with the VIP, so I was hopeful, and your response is very positive. I've emailed VIP and curtpalme and am awaiting their response. If there are no known issues with my 6500UB, I'm pretty sure I'm going to give it a shot. When you get your VIP device, please post up your experience. Thanks! -Thomas
post #1731 of 2235
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Originally Posted by twsnnva View Post

I want to get a VIP 3D Theatre, but want to find out if it's compatible with my hardware. My source(s) are an HTPC w/ PowerDVD 11, PS3 and Motorola FIOS DVR, which goes through an Onkyo TX-SR876 and out to a Mitsubishi WD-73735 and Epson 6500UB. I am aware of the possible timing issues with the HTPC, but I have the PS3, so it's not really a concern. The main thing I want to ensure is that I can connect through my AVR (can the VIP pass TrueHD/DTS-MA?) and onto the Epson. If anyone has experience with the VIP device with the Onkyo TX-SR876 or Epson 6500UB, I would very much appreciate your input. Thanks! -Thomas.

If the Theater is placed before a HDMI 1.4 AVR, audio will be limited to 5.1 channels in it's current firmware. If you need 7.1 then place it after the AVR. If the AVR is HDMI 1.3 then you will have to place after it anyway, although a few souls have claimed passing 3D through a 1.3 AVR but I don't remember which models. Some have done work-arounds with 1.3AVRs by sending the digital audio output from the BluRay to the AVR and leaving the Theater downstream. Or judicious use of HDMI maxtrix switchers could be utilized depending on their specs.

The Epson 6500UB will need to use the 60Hz output setting of the Theater. The Epson manual seems to indicate a maximum 85hz refresh depending on the rez mode.

I have not owned Onkyo. So you might browse that related forum group.
post #1732 of 2235
I have been using the Theater with Onkyo TX-876 with no issues for months. It worked for me both before the AVR and the way I use it now after the AVR out to my Panny AE4000 and Samsung 46 LCD. The only issue I have had is with my Monoprice matrix switcher which will not pass 5.1 or higher audio unless I disconect the LCD from the switcher.
post #1733 of 2235
SgtVideo,
I think I'm going to give the VIP Theatre a try. Based on what everyone is saying (VIP and Curt Palme replied to my emails also), it sounds like it should work, with the only possible issue being flicker. Hopefully, I'll be able to ignore it. When I got my first DLP PJ, I saw rainbows like crazy. Within a few weeks it diminished and now I can choose to see it, or not, like flipping a switch in my head Hopefully the flicker turns out the same way.

wdaub,
It's very interesting that you can use the VIP either before or after the SR876. As I mentioned, I have the Mits 3DA-1 adapter, and cannot get it to work with the 876 anywhere in the chain. I have tried it before the AVR and after. Whenever I have the AVR in the chain, PowerDVD will not switch to 3D mode. I don't remember the message it displays, but I believe it say's a 3D display is not connected, or something similar. If I go straight from my HTPC to my TV, it works like a champ. Someone in another thread mentioned disabling video processing may help and also mentioned that it may be a timing issue with my HTPC. Did you have to disable video processing in the AVR? I'll try using the PS3 later today.

Thank you both for your help! -Thomas
post #1734 of 2235
since now is 24/12, am I should wait the 3D now theatre release in 01/2012?
in their announce the 3D NOW Theatre is supporting 1080p 3D but 3D VIP Theatre is 720p only.
post #1735 of 2235
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Originally Posted by skyfiction View Post

since now is 24/12, am I should wait the 3D now theatre release in 01/2012?
in their announce the 3D NOW Theatre is supporting 1080p 3D but 3D VIP Theatre is 720p only.

I asked about the 1080P spec with Jonathan earlier this month and it was my
understanding that is an error on the 3DNow web site. The TheaterPlus should be 1080P and the Theater remains as it has been.

That would make sense in that the Gamer and Displayer are being discontinued to accommodate the new hardware for 2012. That would make the Theater then become the entry level unit.

A consumer version of the TheaterPlus probably available mid-2012 would give 1080P and 7.2 audio.
post #1736 of 2235
I want to sell my VIP Theater and emitter, I will also throw in the power adapter for the emitter, and will include 1 IR glass. It works really well, but my projector is too dark for 3D, so Im going to upgrade to the 3D projector. I want to sell everything (theater, emitter, power adapter, 1 IR glass) for $350 + actual shipping. If anybody interest, please email me.
post #1737 of 2235
I got 1 optoma RF 3D glasses but at the box, I found the spec does not match with BC100.

the box of optoma RF glasses say support 96-120hz but not as BC100 say support 60-240hz.

are there anyone try optoma RF glasses at 2D TV at 720p60hz? can it really do it each eye 30flame?

Since VIP RF glasses always out of stock and I saw someone say Monster and Optoma RF glasses are same as VIP's. so I wonder the Optoma RF glasses is support 60-240Hz or not, or just the box got the wrong spec.

Thanks!!
post #1738 of 2235
I hope somebody here could help me.
I can't seem to get 3d to work on my xbox 360.
Currently using the hd66, onkyo 709, and vip 3d theater.
I am getting 3d through the ps3 and directv.
Tried playing the Avatar game and another game(don't remember the name..infinity something or other) but no 3d.
Tried searching this thread but could not find anything.
Thanks!
post #1739 of 2235
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Originally Posted by jyv1214 View Post

I hope somebody here could help me.
I can't seem to get 3d to work on my xbox 360.
Currently using the hd66, onkyo 709, and vip 3d theater.
I am getting 3d through the ps3 and directv.
Tried playing the Avatar game and another game(don't remember the name..infinity something or other) but no 3d.
Tried searching this thread but could not find anything.
Thanks!

Did you turn 3d on in the hd66 menu? I also have a hd66 and a monoprice 3d creator that I can't get into 3d mode because the 3d menu on my hd66 is unselectable.
post #1740 of 2235
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Originally Posted by skyfiction View Post

I got 1 optoma RF 3D glasses but at the box, I found the spec does not match with BC100.

the box of optoma RF glasses say support 96-120hz but not as BC100 say support 60-240hz.

are there anyone try optoma RF glasses at 2D TV at 720p60hz? can it really do it each eye 30flame?

Since VIP RF glasses always out of stock and I saw someone say Monster and Optoma RF glasses are same as VIP's. so I wonder the Optoma RF glasses is support 60-240Hz or not, or just the box got the wrong spec.

Thanks!!

They are the same glasses and work just fine despite what the box says. I use my Optoma RF glasses alongside my VIP RF glasses on a 60 Hz CRT RPTV with 3D Theater unit, no problems.
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