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post #1741 of 2235
Lewis,

same prob here.
the 3d option is greyed out when playing xbox.
ps3 and directv work perfectly
post #1742 of 2235
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Originally Posted by jyv1214 View Post

I hope somebody here could help me.
I can't seem to get 3d to work on my xbox 360.
Currently using the hd66, onkyo 709, and vip 3d theater.
I am getting 3d through the ps3 and directv.
Tried playing the Avatar game and another game(don't remember the name..infinity something or other) but no 3d.
Tried searching this thread but could not find anything.
Thanks!

Have you tried just connecting only the Xbox>Theater>HD66, no Okyo?

What are you using as a power source and how do the LEDs on the Theater
behave when you try to play the problematic games? You indicate no 3D but
is there any image at all?

Since I am not familiar with the format of those games, what format are
they? Frame pack, T2B, SBS?
post #1743 of 2235
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Originally Posted by skyfiction View Post

I got 1 optoma RF 3D glasses but at the box, I found the spec does not match with BC100.

the box of optoma RF glasses say support 96-120hz but not as BC100 say support 60-240hz.

are there anyone try optoma RF glasses at 2D TV at 720p60hz? can it really do it each eye 30flame?

Since VIP RF glasses always out of stock and I saw someone say Monster and Optoma RF glasses are same as VIP's. so I wonder the Optoma RF glasses is support 60-240Hz or not, or just the box got the wrong spec.

Thanks!!

As Rolls-Royce indicated there is no difference they are all the same version
made by Bit Cauldron.

VIP3D will remain out of stock until they complete their transition with 3DNow.

There are also in the midst of testing to release new versions of 3D glasses so there is no reason to stock the old design.
post #1744 of 2235
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Originally Posted by SgtVideo View Post


Have you tried just connecting only the Xbox>Theater>HD66, no Okyo?

What are you using as a power source and how do the LEDs on the Theater
behave when you try to play the problematic games? You indicate no 3D but
is there any image at all?

Since I am not familiar with the format of those games, what format are
they? Frame pack, T2B, SBS?

i have not tried it w/o the onkyo because the setup is working for the ps3 and directv...i'll try this later

the 3d theater is powered through a usb adaptor

i believe the two games are both sbs

i do get an image but they double(side by side)

the first 2 leds light up

when i press the p1 button, all three light up but the screen goes black

thank you for your help, i really appreciate it
post #1745 of 2235
Quote:
Originally Posted by jyv1214 View Post

i have not tried it w/o the onkyo because the setup is working for the ps3 and directv...i'll try this later

the 3d theater is powered through a usb adaptor

i believe the two games are both sbs

i do get an image but they double(side by side)

the first 2 leds light up

when i press the p1 button, all three light up but the screen goes black

thank you for your help, i really appreciate it

Make sure the USB adapter is at least 1 amp (1000ma) Minimum or you can
have erratic operation.

If you are using RF glasses does the transmitter LEDs change to green when
the 3D LED is lit even though there is a blank screen?
post #1746 of 2235
having trouble with the rose bowl parade on TW cable when I switch the converter forthe sbs it turns the picture purple and I can't seem to change it correctly any ideas
post #1747 of 2235
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Originally Posted by wdaub1 View Post

having trouble with the rose bowl parade on TW cable when I switch the converter forthe sbs it turns the picture purple and I can't seem to change it correctly any ideas

Mine does not have sound???
post #1748 of 2235
SgtVideo,

I'm using an iPhone usb adaptor which I believe is 1 amp.
As for the glasses, I am using a DLP link.
Thanks
post #1749 of 2235
Hi all -

Considering picking up one of the 3d-theaters, have a couple questions I'm hoping someone can help with.

- I currently have a Mitsubishi HC5500 projector. This is a 3LCD projector. From what i understand the 3d theater will work with this. My bigger concern is lumens. This projector is rated at 1300 lumens. I am using it with a 90 inch screen and have it mounted about 7 1/2 feet back (towards the front of its rated throwing distance). The room only has one small window, and i do most of my playing (PS3) and watching at night, so ambient light is minimal. Ive read that the 3d cuts the lumens in half. Will this still be a decent experience with this projector? Ive never had a complaint about the brightness in non 3d viewing.

- My receiver does not support passing hdmi 1.4. If I buy a splitter, I can split the signal between the receiver and the projector correct?
post #1750 of 2235
Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtVideo View Post

As Rolls-Royce indicated there is no difference they are all the same version
made by Bit Cauldron.

VIP3D will remain out of stock until they complete their transition with 3DNow.

There are also in the midst of testing to release new versions of 3D glasses so there is no reason to stock the old design.

If I understand things aright, 3DNow will be offering a new product (Home Theater + ......or something like that??) which should be a little more robust with regard to vertical sync rates. True??

If so, do we know WHEN it will be available??? I'm very interested in trying it out as my current projector has a max sync rate of 100Hz. With the older product, I believe I'd only be able to use the 60Hz sync and I'd like as little flicker and as much brightness as possible.

Please advise oh you great and powerful insiders........and please don't tell me to come back tomorrow.....
post #1751 of 2235
My guess would be 3rd or 4th quarter of this year. The initial product planned for release early this year is aimed at custom installers.
post #1752 of 2235
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Originally Posted by Rolls-Royce View Post

My guess would be 3rd or 4th quarter of this year. The initial product planned for release early this year is aimed at custom installers.

Bummer. I hate waiting. I think they might be missing the mark as 3D projectors continue to come down in price. If I could get something like the theater + now, I'd jump on it. Later in the year, I'm not so sure. That being said, I'm sure they have a lot of people thinking about this who are a lot smarter than I am and have their eye on other potential customers.

Late this year, I'll probably be ready to buy a 3D projector if prices and quality go the way I think they will. If the cost is a few (or even several) hundred dollars more, it'll probably be worth it.
post #1753 of 2235
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Originally Posted by InCali View Post

Bummer. I hate waiting. I think they might be missing the mark as 3D projectors continue to come down in price. If I could get something like the theater + now, I'd jump on it. Later in the year, I'm not so sure. That being said, I'm sure they have a lot of people thinking about this who are a lot smarter than I am and have their eye on other potential customers.

Late this year, I'll probably be ready to buy a 3D projector if prices and quality go the way I think they will. If the cost is a few (or even several) hundred dollars more, it'll probably be worth it.

It's a terrific idea they had though. Very clever and very creative.
post #1754 of 2235
I'm a new user on this forum... so i'm hoping someone can help me out...

I have an optoma HD67N, V.I.P. theatre, and my PS3 as the 3D source. My problem is that i can see a 3D image being displayed on the screen but my dlp glasses that came with the vip theatre wont stay in sync. What do I do ?
post #1755 of 2235
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Originally Posted by Jagk View Post

I'm a new user on this forum... so i'm hoping someone can help me out...

I have an optoma HD67N, V.I.P. theatre, and my PS3 as the 3D source. My problem is that i can see a 3D image being displayed on the screen but my dlp glasses that came with the vip theatre wont stay in sync. What do I do ?


Maybe your emitter is to far away?
post #1756 of 2235
i dont have a emitter, the 3d glasses are suppose sync in with projector, and the projector is about 5 feet away from where i sit
post #1757 of 2235
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Originally Posted by Jagk View Post

i dont have a emitter, the 3d glasses are suppose sync in with projector, and the projector is about 5 feet away from where i sit

Dlp link glasses sometimes lose sync when you turn your head away from the screen. This is why they give you the sync polarity settings. I use RF glasses and emitter to avoid this. Dlp link and ir emitter glasses need a strong sync signal to stay in sync.
post #1758 of 2235
is there any thing i can do make the signal stronger and avoid having to buy rf glasses ?
post #1759 of 2235
also i can't select the dlp link under the 3D menu, could that be it?
post #1760 of 2235
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Originally Posted by Jagk View Post

also i can't select the dlp link under the 3D menu, could that be it?

The glasses shouldn't even work if dlp link is not turned on in the projector.
post #1761 of 2235
Quote:
Originally Posted by InCali View Post

If I understand things aright, 3DNow will be offering a new product (Home Theater + ......or something like that??) which should be a little more robust with regard to vertical sync rates. True??

If so, do we know WHEN it will be available??? I'm very interested in trying it out as my current projector has a max sync rate of 100Hz. With the older product, I believe I'd only be able to use the 60Hz sync and I'd like as little flicker and as much brightness as possible.

Please advise oh you great and powerful insiders........and please don't tell me to come back tomorrow.....

You would be able to use the 96Hz bracket of the Theater+ or whatever they decide to call the consumer version.

As far as release dates something could probably happen earlier this year, as I would expect it would depend a lot of how far the existing stock of Theater's are reduced.

Follow any of the CES news developments as Jonathan and 3DNow will be there with some other interesting hardware as well. Let's see what they demo and announce. The dual-projector hopefuls might be interested as well.
post #1762 of 2235
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Originally Posted by Jagk View Post

I'm a new user on this forum... so i'm hoping someone can help me out...

I have an optoma HD67N, V.I.P. theatre, and my PS3 as the 3D source. My problem is that i can see a 3D image being displayed on the screen but my dlp glasses that came with the vip theatre wont stay in sync. What do I do ?

From what I can gather in the HD67N manual on page 45, that 1280x720P/120hz is dependent upon the graphic card support.

But, since you state you are using the Theater with a PS3, if the Theater Dipswitch#1 is set at 120Hz, the PS3 will be sending out 1280x720P/120hz to the HD67N. The thing that throws me is on page 46, where Optoma states the "video compatibility" is 720P/50/60.

Why they say you can do it via computer but not over regular video HDMI is puzzling. Get them to explain why the difference. Your DLP glasses will only operate at 120hz off the white dot sync pulse on the screen. Only the RF glasses will tune down to 60hz but that probably wasn't your original hope.
post #1763 of 2235
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Originally Posted by Jagk View Post

also i can't select the dlp link under the 3D menu, could that be it?

What is available on the OSD screen depends on the format of the signal you are sending to the projector (Page 22). So tell us what you are outputting. What available 3D signals did the PS3 put in it's detection list?

Was 1280/720P/120hz in the list?
post #1764 of 2235
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

The glasses shouldn't even work if dlp link is not turned on in the projector.

It sounds like he is not sending out 720/120 to the projector but then the manual double talks about the useage of 120hz. HD66s need 120 to enable their 3D OSD option in the menu.

From another thread:"Optoma now offer a firmware upgrade to update the HD67 to an HD67N (Nvidia 3D Vision Ready). For details of the process, please view below:"


Since I know nothing about Nvidia 3D Vision glasses, I assume they are DLP glasses and 120hz?
post #1765 of 2235
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Originally Posted by SgtVideo View Post

It sounds like he is not sending out 720/120 to the projector but then the manual double talks about the useage of 120hz. HD66s need 120 to enable their 3D OSD option in the menu.

From another thread:"Optoma now offer a firmware upgrade to update the HD67 to an HD67N (Nvidia 3D Vision Ready). For details of the process, please view below:"


Since I know nothing about Nvidia 3D Vision glasses, I assume they are DLP glasses and 120hz?

I believe the Nvidia option is IR shutter glasses not DLP. The Nvidia option shuts off the DLP link flash that syncs the DLP link glasses.
post #1766 of 2235
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Originally Posted by fjser View Post

Hi all -

Considering picking up one of the 3d-theaters, have a couple questions I'm hoping someone can help with.

- I currently have a Mitsubishi HC5500 projector. This is a 3LCD projector. From what i understand the 3d theater will work with this. My bigger concern is lumens. This projector is rated at 1300 lumens. I am using it with a 90 inch screen and have it mounted about 7 1/2 feet back (towards the front of its rated throwing distance). The room only has one small window, and i do most of my playing (PS3) and watching at night, so ambient light is minimal. Ive read that the 3d cuts the lumens in half. Will this still be a decent experience with this projector? Ive never had a complaint about the brightness in non 3d viewing.

- My receiver does not support passing hdmi 1.4. If I buy a splitter, I can split the signal between the receiver and the projector correct?


I think Brian Hampton on the one of the Displayer threads got by with 1000lumens and was satisfied. On 90" with your short throw distance you might be OK.

If you not interested in 7.1 audio, then you could output the Theater to your current AVR without splitting or using the digital audio outputs. The current
Theater is limited to 5.1 audio.

If you write Jonathan at VIP3D he might have a few Theater's left as most have been turned over to 3DNow for distribution. Explain to him your situation and he might allow you try it for 30 days or return.
jonathan.alexander@3D-VIP.com


Don't expect an answer until after the CES is over though.
post #1767 of 2235
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

I believe the Nvidia option is IR shutter glasses not DLP. The Nvidia option shuts off the DLP link flash that syncs the DLP link glasses.

His manual in the 3D option section indicates these choices:

Off/DLP-Link/IR

But since it is greyed-out then it would indicate the wrong format video signal.
post #1768 of 2235
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Originally Posted by SgtVideo View Post

His manual in the 3D option section indicates these choices:

Off/DLP-Link/IR

But since it is greyed-out then it would indicate the wrong format video signal.

This is a problem with the monoprice converter. For some reason some Optoma projectors are not syncing up. Some think the newer firmware may be blocking use with anything other than the Optoma 3D-XL.
post #1769 of 2235
there is no reason that the HD66 should'nt work with the monoprice since DLP link works just fine with the H5360 and it is not 60 hz but 120 hz. Something is fishy with Optoma.
post #1770 of 2235
Also with the vip theater.
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