3D Theatre - VIP Product Thread - Page 64

Understood...I have not downloaded any 3D. Been recording 3D shows on my Direct receiver and although not as sharp as bluray 3D its still good 3D. Eye polarity seems to flip more often though when changing between 2D and 3D. The joystick is useless. Try to change polarity and it screws up duty cycle and or timing. I just don't touch it. Would rather use the laptop to change polarity.

I am thinking maybe I should order more rf glasses before you can't get them any more. The optima glasses are cheap enough and are exactly the same glasses.

what are they going for?

$69 a pair!

I checked at 69 each. I have 2 now maybe get 2 more. I have 2 dongles so I don't need more of them.

I ordered an extra pair from consignia and they were supposed to be VIP version they were the optoma's. They work just fine. I paid full price which pissed me off when I saw them for $79 on amazon at the time I paid $129.

the RF glasses are hands down much better than the DLP's. DLP's are ok during bright scenes but affect the contrast in dark scenes.

Very little color temp shift with the rf glasses too,

+1 on using the laptop. Much easier!

Dear, beside my 50" NEC Plasma TV, (actually the color space problem make me so upset, I study all figures menus and nothing can help me to stop changing RGB to x.v color..)

I try to use the displayer on 22" LCD mon and I can see 2 images on the screen, so I try to power on my RF glasses and experience the 3D movies, but I found, some of it can merge to gether but some didn't .....(e.g the middle of screen the 2 image can merge together and get the 3D feeling, but outside there those images still seperated) ...is that are ghosting? so I just need fine tune the delay cycle can be resolve it?

where have the detail menu of the RF glasses can be download??

here is my TV's model :

http://www.plasma.com/necplasma/50xr4.htm

Unfortunately, your set is from about 2005 and the manufacturer no longer has a publicly accessible website, so I couldn't find a manual without logging into some iffy 3rd-party download site. But here is a review from that time frame listing the menu items that are available:
http://www.laaudiofile.com/px50xr4a.html

So, due to the TV is too old therefore I need to give it up to use with the displayer??

3DNow will be releasing upgraded versions of RF glasses this year to my understanding so that should not be a problem. If I heard
correctly the new glasses will have their own polarity button instead of the jstick fiasco.

My only concern for now in regards to our current ones we use, is I can no longer source the battery for them. I wrote Jonathan and Bit Cauldron about this and am awaiting an answer. Last year I could find a couple sources but not now.

I would think hands down DLP. I have been back and forth with the LCD/DLP issue and I do prefer DLP. But at the time I was looking for a new projector BB had a sale on the 8100 for 1199.99, and at that moment it couldnt be beat!

Thanks for the link Sky.

Interestingly that set appears to be 60 or 120hz capable. But I do not see any HDMI capability. Are you using some type of converter to go from HDMI to DVI? The accessories indicated you may have an HDMI to DVI adapter, if thats the case we will need to determine the effect and possible menu settings that could be causing your issue.

So don't give up yet.

If you are referring to DLP glasses then not exactly. In other threads which I won't get into, some were not happy with the color rendition depending on which brand DLP glasses they were using. RF glasses give more freedom of movement and tunability in achieving brightness and color rendition, whereas DLP glasses are a fixed value device.

As an economical price point they are very good but need to be used with a 120hz signal. I use RF glasses for 120hz DLP viewing as well.

Try this link for the BC5100 users manual:

http://www.3d-vip.com/pdf/manual_glasses.pdf

Here is my link on Curt Palme site that will help with that:

http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27776

Nice! A polarity button...I will wait then.

The batteries should last long enough. I hardly ever charge mine. Its been a couple months and mine are still working fine. They probably only have 10 hours on each pair. 4 pair and I alternate between them. Only had one movie with company where I used all 4 pair at once. My wife hasn't watched much 3D. Although now that I upgraded my Directv receiver with a 3D HD DVR I will be using 3D a lot more. I have recorded over 20 3D shows over the last week.

Sounds to me he needs to use RGB for all sources. Should be easy to set sources to RGB only.

Not at all. It's just that I couldn't easily find a manual for your set online. I don't trust those download sites-some of them are home to lots of trojans and viruses.

I just thought of something else. Given the age of your set, it might have come out before x.v.Color or Deep Color were introduced. If that's the case, it won't "know" about them. How were you getting the resolution and x.v.Color information?

The review I linked to in another post also refers to an HDMI-DVI adapter as well as the set having two DVI ports.

I just got the VIP 3D theater, It looks great on my tv but not on my projector? The image is there and my Monstervision RF glasses shutter but there in no convergance, it's like the projector is refreshing at a differant rate though it says 1080 60hz when the picture comes up. Any suggestions?
Plus I did watch a movie on my tv but I had to wear my glasses upside down, does anyone know how to reverse the L-R?

There only one dvi-d port for digital rgb, according to the reviews it didn't mention any x.v.color or deep color,so I think it doesn't support it.

On the other hand,it can support 120hz???

From what little info I can read about it, then yes, 120hz.

Illustrate to us as to how you have connected everything.

Example:

3D BluRay>>hdmi cable>>Theater/Displayer>>hdmi?DVI? cable>>TV

I got the ACER H9500BD projector ($1699....more on that later) and the picture is really, really sharp and bright. The 3D mode is also plenty bright (according to the specs, the light should have been a little low, but it was more than bright enough IMO). I watched the new release of "Journey to the Center of the Earth" in 3D and the pop out was amazing. Very gimmicky, but fun for my purposes. I always thought people were BS'ing when they said they jerked their heads back. I know better now. The picture is pretty amazing and I couldn't be happier. I still haven't played with the (minimal) color adjustments, but that and programming my Universal remote are next on my list. The colors out of the box looked great from where I was sitting (literally), but maybe I can improve things.

A few downsides:

The menu is slow and difficult to navigate. Generally this isn't too big of a deal. This projector is (now) about half the price of the Panny and Epson. That seems like a reasonable trade-off.

There aren't as many adjustments as I would like, but the color, brightness, sharpness, 3D effects, etc. are so good out of the box, that also seems like a reasonable trade-off to make.

Vertical/Horizontal "Shift" - this thing is kind of a bear to set up. they should call the shift "diagonal right" and "diagonal left". I was able to get a full 16:9 120" screen with the center of the lens 3" above the top of the screen, about 7" to the left of center of the screen and about 13.5' from the screen, but pretty much (still a little room for adjustments if necessary) maxed out zoom and shift. I had to do a LOT of tweaking to get it just right (physical, zoom, focus, and shift). After it was done, however, it's no longer an issue. Again, a trade-off I can live with.

The glasses are really clear and comfortable (very, very slight greenish tint, but really isn't noticeable unless you take them off and on, off and on, etc.), but are kind of hard to purchase. By all accounts the pair that comes with the unit are about as good as it gets. There are some Optomas out there, but I can't comment on how the stack up to the Acer glasses. Rumor has it you can buy them from Acer, but it takes awhile.

That pretty much does it for issues I have with it other than the fact that TigerDirect dropped the price $200 (to $1499) six days after I bought it. Can they give you a credit on your credit card? Of course not. Why would I even ask such a stupid question? What you CAN do, however, is to return the unit for a full refund and buy a new one at the reduced price. Costs them shipping (they ship free with no tax) and would have cost me shipping, but I found a small flaw, got Acer tech support to agree with me, and can ship my current unit back free. Kind of dumb if you ask me. What's even dumber is that TigerDirect told me I didn't even have to unpack the new projector. I could just send it back and they would accept that as the return and credit my card for the original price I paid. Makes about as much sense as the price of oil if you ask me. If you buy with an AMEX card, you get an extra year warranty.

For just under $1500 out the door, I got a really nice 3D projector (which does a much better job converting 2D to 3D than my Sony BDP-S780 Blu Ray player) with a 2 year warranty. I think that's pretty good bang for the buck. We'll see how it holds up.

Sorry about posting to this thread, but I did get asked.....

Ha-ha! I was reading the other thread. You can delete your post now. Sounds like a great option. I will comment on the other thread.

Thanks! Ron

Can't help with projector without the make/model# ????????

Also illustrate your connections of all devices in the loop.
EXAMPLE:

BLURAY>>HDMI CABLE>>THEATER>>HDMI CABLE>>DISPLAY

See thread #1490 for polarity reversal for RF glasses.

Thank you, I followed the link to the online manual for my RF glasses and after using the joystick of the transmitter I have reversed the polarity and adjusted the flicker to match my projectors and it is Amazing!

Though when I try playing SBS videos I downloaded I get a blank screen and just audio when I press the p1 button, any thoughts?