3D Theatre - VIP Product Thread - Page 16

I think I have yet to read about someone testing the VIP Theater with a HTPC. Logically, it should not be a problem but I wish someone can confirm this.

I would assume a software such as ArcSoft TotalMedia Theater or PowerDVD could play a 3DBluray disc or a 3D file, and send it to the receiver, then to VIP theater and finally Projector.

Anyone is planning to use his/her HTPC to feed the VIP?

After setting My Epson 6100 Projector to 100% scaling, HDMI limited Color and My Direct Tv receiver to output only 1080p,The final result is very good.Minimal ghosting now and the flicker effect is barely noticable.I may invest in a higher gain screen.It was bright enough,But I think a higher gain screen would give it more pop.Espn is not nearly as good as 3net.I watched Bugs in The Rain Forrest,And the Preying Mantis scared the hell out of Me.I hooked up My ps3 and watched Alice in Wonderland 3d.The Theater unit really shines with 3d blurays.I noticed almost zero flicker and very little ghosting.I only saw ghosting in afew scenes from the movie.I am very pleased with My purchase overall.My only negitive would be the emitter.Its range is very limited.I have a universal high powered emitter I used with My Mitsubishi 60 inch 3d tv.I have not been brave enough to try it

I have the Sanyo PLV-Z3000 1080p projector...does anyone else have this projector who is ordering this? I would really appreciate someone's experience with this.

Thanks for your update. If I need 4 glasses for all of my family with di-la & plasma, does it means that I need 4*IR emitter glasses with emitter: $129.00
= $516.00?

THAT would be tremendously useful and a very nice feature... let's hope that Jonathan can answer this for us.

Hello,

I have a Sony VW50 projector, Can I use the 3d-VIP theater with it?


Bye.

Yes, they appear to be completely different. The VIP connection is a 3-prong while the Mits uses only one "prong".

Ed

The picture on page 4 of the Mits adapter user's manual clearly shows both a Vesa 3 pin in and a Vesa 3 pin out connector.

http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/OG-3DA1.pdf

Where can you buy this in Europe.

Good question, but I think we have to purshase it from USA

Jay shipped my Theater unit on Monday the 8th and per the tracking number it's in the country and will be here any day now. I am going to try this on a Panny PT-AE3000U hopefully it will work very well. May have to turn off the frame creation but we shall see. if it doesn't look good I purchased a HD66 as my back up to guarantee my experience. Will post my review once it's up and running and all projector settings have been tweaked. Can't wait, can't wait, can't wait. I really hope this product is as good as I think it's going to be. This unit could end up being a game changer. I heard they are working on a 1080p 120hrz unit as well which should be even better. Looking forward to the future of 3D. Here is what my main system consists of:

Panny PT-AE3000U
Onkyo TX-NR3008
7 Jamo Inwalls
2x JBL SP12 Subwoofers
Again I can't wait to see this. I'm hoping its everything I expect it to be just based on reviews. Looking forward to checking out Ultimate Wave Tahitti, if you haven't seen Hubble 3D run out to Best Buy and pick it up you will not be sorry you did, amazing stuff.

As I recall, the difference between the Panny 3K and 4K were pretty negligible. I'm hoping that what work for the 3K will work for the 4K.

If i'm not mistaken the only difference between the two was the addition of the new "Red Bulb" to improve the color red. Other than that I don't think there were any other differences. Like I said before I can't wait to connect this. I feel like a little kid waiting for Christmas morning to come, haha.

For what it's worth I contacted that email yesterday with interest to purchase the Theater and have heard no response. I live about an hour away from 3d-vip and it would be a shame to have to deal outside of the country.

That's good to hear. Hopefully this will work with the VIP-Theatre. If anyone lives in the Phoenix area that is getting the VIP-Theatre PM me so that maybe we can get a demo setup to see if it works. If someone can confirm that the MITS glasses will work with VIP-theatre please let me know.

Just give him time - Jonathan is a pleasure to deal with and has great customer service. I am sure he is busy shipping orders to all! My experience has been top notch - no complaints whatsoever!

Wow, I apoligize for my misinformation! Walford is CORRECT, it IS a 3 pin Vesa connection! I guess my excuse is that the pic of the VIP made that connection look so large I thought it was something completely different. I just yanked the cable and yep, it is the 3 pin Vesa.......duhhhhhhhhhh.
Seems to me that there would be a good possiblity that the Mits emitter/glasses would work with the VIP. Wouldn't that be 60hz???
Thanks for the correction Walford!

Ed

You need special 60Hz capable glasses if you want to use 60Hz projectors/TV's. Also will other emitters work at 60Hz?

Most will not, which is why people are looking for alternatives to the VIP emitter.

But your statement brings up a good point... the *emitters* need to be 60hz capable, but what about the *glasses*? Will any IR glasses sync to a 60hz emitter?

In other words, is the syncing solely dependant on the emitter, or do both work together? Anyone know?

fwiw, can't say for sure, but in some of the listings for glasses I've seen:

range: 50 -120hz

most of the DLP Link ones just say '120hz', which makes sense (unless someone figures out a way to hack DLP Link for 60hz (2x 30hz) use)

So if I get a 120hz projector then it "should" work correct? I don't mind buying a 720p 120hz projector. I just have too much invested in glasses to buy new ones.

from my earlier post...


Instead of worrying about a different emitter, does anyone have any of these old glasses they can test with? If anyone is local to NoVA and has a VIP, I'd be happy to supply the glasses for a test.

That would be great, but they're kind of, umm... ugly.

I think I'd rather find out that the NXG or other specs work, & pick up a pair for $55 online.

And now I was just double checking availability and they are discontinued so you can't buy any more. I DO have 4 pairs, so I'm REALLY hoping they will work!

Wow lots of questions flying about things covered over and over in the past. Here's an overview again:

First, 3D ready 120hz projectors require either nvidia 3D vision emitters and glasses (that toggle shutters through an IR pulse), or DLPlink glasses (no emitter required and they sync by generating a white flash on the screen during the blanking period between frames to trigger DLP-Link shutter glasses to toggle) requiring frame sequential 3D (aka page flipping the right eye, then the left eye). And the VIP Theatre emitter and glasses will work. However, no one has successfully used other glasses like Mits, Samsung, etc. as they are meant for other types of 3D such as Checkerboard--where half the pixels are used for the left eye and half for the right. Some of the glasses work at 60hz for checkerboard.

Update: While other 60hz IR glasses might work with the VIP emitter or with their own emitters, no one seems to have tested that successfully yet.

Second, if it is a 120hz rated projector, then it's probably 3D ready anyway and has at least dlplink built in, however requires a PC to use or the VIP Theater if you want direct hook up from a 3D bluray player, cable/satellite TV or game systems. For the PC only hookup, you can watch 3D blu-ray using a non-3D player as long as you have a software player (e.g. PowerDVD Ultra 10 Mark II, or Arcsoft TotalMedia Theater 5), and for games a game driver such as IZ3D or Tridef (search Google). The PC route is where most people are now, and they are moving to a hdmi 1.4a device such as the Optoma 3DXL or VIP Theater to watch 3D without a PC. The PC also requires a high-end video card such as an ATI Radeon HD series or nvidia 400GT--that's a whole different months worth of discussion on other threads...

The 60hz feature of the VIP is an added plus for those who do not want to invest in a 3D ready 120hz projector or LCD. That said, there are many variations of 60hz TVs being tested by VIP users at this moment. VIP is building a list, but it appears that not all 60hz TVs can handle the signal properly due to what is called the need for "frame locking" at 60hz. We have not proved this, but that is the suspicion of the techies on this board.

Hope this helps gain some understanding...