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post #1201 of 4112
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Originally Posted by BiotypE View Post

I currently have a pn59d7000 and an p55st30 sitting in my home. I have been going back and forth on these two sets for over two weeks now. Both are great sets. The ST30 in custom mode with the back-light set to mid or high gets very bright but at the expense of image quality and over-saturation of colors.

If you are not too sensitive to color accuracy and brightness is one of your main purchase concerns the ST30 would suite you better since you can bump the back light up to mid or high and get a VERY bright image although not the most accurate image.

If you set the ST30 back light to low, it has a very clean image but is not as bright as the movie mode on the d7000 with the cell light set to 20. The difference being the d7000 in the recommended viewing mode, movie, is noticeably brighter than the ST30 in the recommended viewing mode, custom, with the back-light set to low.

Both TVs get bright enough to want to turn it down a notch in a dark viewing environment.

I am stuck in an OCD loop with these two sets. I have about two more weeks to test them out and then one has to go back. Not sure where I will end up.

D7000 - Very nice, natural colors and balance in the image with very little noise in the picture. Does not get as bright as the st30 and "appears" to have a lower contrast ratio when comparing them side by side. Comparable black levels to the st30 if not very slightly better.

My set does have floating blacks and it is not really that big of a problem. I notice it occasionally but not really a big deal at all. it does have a very slight buzz but you have to listen for it closely to hear it.

ST30 - Great contrast when the back light is set to mid or high but that leap in brightness is at the cost of accurate colors and gamma. it is nice to have the option to make it brighter if you want to though. Nice black levels.

This set does not buzz at all until you press your ear up to the screen. I have not seen any instance of floating blacks on this set. There was a section in the movie the Pianist where I noticed this occurred on the d7000 and it did not occur on the ST30 when testing the same scene.

So after this entire post, I guess I am in the same boat as you. I don't know which one to keep and feel no matter which way I decide to go, there will be something about the other I will wish I had. I can say that the ST30 has been 100% glitch and bug free.

Very interested in your results. So the D7000 buzzes a bit more. What about heat...any noticeable difference? Not thrilled with my D7000 in regards to heat or buzz and thinking of switching sets myself.
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after owning the 59D8000 for about 20 days, I exchanged it out for the 64D7000 for the size increase. The only difference ive noticed going from the 8000 to the 7000 is that it seems that the 7000 has more fluctuating brightness problems. I never really noticed it with the 8000, but i seem to notice it alot more on this one. Ive read that holding the exit button on the remote for 15 seconds and then hitting ok resets the tv to factory default and ive read that this has fixed this issue with the fluctuations. I have not done this yet, but i will soon.

Like i said this is the only difference that ive noticed, besides the web browser which is not important to me
post #1203 of 4112
Wermey,

Before you attempt a reset, make sure that the Dynamic Contrast and Motion Lighting options in the Advanced menu are turned off.

I have seen no fluctuating brightness on my 64D7000.

Larry
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I have had my 64D7000 for a week now. I was very leery about getting a Samsung with the issues i had read about in the forums here. But I took a chance. Well......no regrets!....so far. I have no issues with buzzing at all it is super quiet! My blu-ray and dvr are louder than this TV. I did have some fluctuating brightness but I did the reset and turned off the eco setting. Nothing since. The black levels are very good better than I expected. No line bleeding issues and I have been looking for it. The heat output is comparable to my panny 58V10. You have to get within 4-5 inches to feel heat and thats after running it for 6hrs. straight. To me this set is very bright at least compared to my panny. I did notice floating blacks on one occasion not a big deal have not noticed anything since. Picture is very good after a few tweaks. For the size of this tv and the price I paid. I am Loving this TV!! The only complaint if any so far...the stand sucks! They expect that stand to hold up a 64in tv!? Thats why it leans forward!! Bad design! Mine is up on the wall. Other than that this TV is great! Cant wait to get this tv calibrated!
post #1205 of 4112
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

Wermey,

Before you attempt a reset, make sure that the Dynamic Contrast and Motion Lighting options in the Advanced menu are turned off.

I have seen no fluctuating brightness on my 64D7000.

Larry

Those are the first 2 things that i turned off, Im using Cue's Calibration settings in movie mode, but i turn contrast and brightness down to 50 for now until i reach about a 100 hours
post #1206 of 4112
Wermey,

Cue has a D8000. From discussions at another forum, it is becoming questionable whether calibrations are transferable from the D8000 to the D7000. Those of us that have calibrated a D7000 are finding that the resulting setting differ to some degree from the setting of a calibrated D8000.

Larry
post #1207 of 4112
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

Wermey,

Cue has a D8000. From discussions at another forum, it is becoming questionable whether calibrations are transferable from the D8000 to the D7000. Those of us that have calibrated a D7000 are finding that the resulting setting differ to some degree from the setting of a calibrated D8000.

Larry

Has anyone posted for a D7000 then?
post #1208 of 4112
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Originally Posted by Mrbenjamins View Post

My pn51d7000 is emitting a ton of heat and it's making me a little concerned.... Is this normal because samsung is trying to tell me no to worry and could heat up to 100 degrees. I don't mind a little heat but when it's hot to touch and I can feel heat 3 or 4 ft from the tv

Plasma's run warm, you can feel the heat off my 64d7000 just walking by it. I was told after the first 100 or so break in hours they heat will diminish a little bit, but I doubt it will be much.
post #1209 of 4112
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

Wermey,

Cue has a D8000. From discussions at another forum, it is becoming questionable whether calibrations are transferable from the D8000 to the D7000. Those of us that have calibrated a D7000 are finding that the resulting setting differ to some degree from the setting of a calibrated D8000.

Larry

Would you please post your calibrated settings, or point us toward a post where a d7000 owner has posted theirs?
post #1210 of 4112
I think I saw it in one of the menu's, but now I can't find where you set game mode. Any help?

Gaming (Black Ops) has been good in general but I need all the help I can get.

I did try an online Black Ops game in 3d. It looked weird, and took a while to get used to. I also detected a noticeable lag, though that can happen for other reasons. Don't think I'll be using online 3D for Black Ops.
post #1211 of 4112
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Originally Posted by Zetherin View Post

I'll tell you this - Until I find a permanent fix for this horrible brightness (or contrast, not sure) dimming, my PN64D7000 is on the verge of going back. Nearly everything else is perfect, but this detracts from the picture so much when it happens it cannot be ignored.

I'm gonna pop in a few blu-rays later and see if I experience the problem.

Sorry to dig up a dead horse, but I had a similar problem and seem to have found a solution for it. Whenever I played a streaming Netflix movie from the Smart Hub, the TV would dim when I turned out the room lights. It would get brighter again when I turned them on (although I don't think this happened if the film was paused). So it seemed like a case of the Eco Sensor being stuck on. But when I tried a factory reset, it didn't fix it.

I later noticed that this effect didn't happen when I was watching TV off the air, only during Netflix vidoes. I thought maybe Netflix was using its own picture settings but the menu button doesn't work when you're using that app, so I couldn't check it. I decided to see if the dimming problem existed in other apps too, so I downloaded Google Maps. Sure enough, it happened there as well, and this time it was clear as day because the screen is static. Room lights go off, screen dims. Room lights go on, screen brightens. So now I tried pressing the menu button in Google Maps, and unlike in Netflix the menu popped up and there was an option to check the eco settings. I clicked on that and what do you know, the Eco Sensor was set to on. I turned it off and the dimming no longer occurred in Google Maps. Now here's the really cool part: the dimming no longer happened in Netflix either.

In short, it seems the TV uses different picture settings for different data streams. For internet streaming data, Eco Sensor was set to on by default, and all I needed to do was find a way to turn it off, in my case by pressing the menu button while Google Maps was running.

(This may or may not help Zetherin, although it's possible that when there's a lot of white on the screen, such as during a hockey game, it creates enough ambient room light to cause the eco sensor to kick in. So attempting the Google Maps solution would be worth trying.)
post #1212 of 4112
Menu - System - General - Game mode. I think as the TV is not in front of me.

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Originally Posted by SCOMCAT View Post

I think I saw it in one of the menu's, but now I can't find where you set game mode. Any help?

Gaming (Black Ops) has been good in general but I need all the help I can get.

I did try an online Black Ops game in 3d. It looked weird, and took a while to get used to. I also detected a noticeable lag, though that can happen for other reasons. Don't think I'll be using online 3D for Black Ops.
post #1213 of 4112
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Originally Posted by grendelrt View Post


Plasma's run warm, you can feel the heat off my 64d7000 just walking by it. I was told after the first 100 or so break in hours they heat will diminish a little bit, but I doubt it will be much.

Thanks for the feedback
post #1214 of 4112
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Originally Posted by Wermey View Post

Has anyone posted for a D7000 then?

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Originally Posted by mobilelawyer View Post

Would you please post your calibrated settings, or point us toward a post where a d7000 owner has posted theirs?


I will be posting my 64D7000 calibration report after I get a few hundred hours on the set. At the rate I'm going that will be probably mid next week. I use a certified i1 pro and an i1 LT profiled to the Pro.

Larry
post #1215 of 4112
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Originally Posted by AstroDad View Post

Anyone interested in 3d glasses that doesn't mind a month wait might want to check amazon. PM me for more info if you need it

Heyo! got the email this morning as I'm sure you did, glasses (are going to be) shipped! thanks again
post #1216 of 4112
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

I will be posting my 64D7000 calibration report after I get a few hundred hours on the set. At the rate I'm going that will be probably mid next week. I use a certified i1 pro and an i1 LT profiled to the Pro.

Larry

That is great to hear! What pre break-in precautions are you taking with your settings, if any? Some have cautioned users to back off on the intitial brightness settings. Do you agree?
post #1217 of 4112
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Originally Posted by Wermey View Post

after owning the 59D8000 for about 20 days, I exchanged it out for the 64D7000 for the size increase. The only difference ive noticed going from the 8000 to the 7000 is that it seems that the 7000 has more fluctuating brightness problems. I never really noticed it with the 8000, but i seem to notice it alot more on this one. Ive read that holding the exit button on the remote for 15 seconds and then hitting ok resets the tv to factory default and ive read that this has fixed this issue with the fluctuations. I have not done this yet, but i will soon.

I would be very interested to hear how this works as I have been torn between the 7000 and 8000. I only really need the 7000 but if the FB problem is not on the 8000 then maybe I should get that one..
post #1218 of 4112
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Originally Posted by EvanVanVan View Post

Heyo! got the email this morning as I'm sure you did, glasses (are going to be) shipped! thanks again

And the price has gone back up now that they have them in stock
post #1219 of 4112
I've been following this thread for a while now (as well at the ST30 thread) and Im worried that so many people aren't completely thrilled after spending almost $3000 (and im some cases more) on their TV.

I guess $3000 still doesn't guarantee you a perfect tv.
post #1220 of 4112
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Originally Posted by dvrmstrng View Post

I've been following this thread for a while now (as well at the ST30 thread) and Im worried that so many people aren't completely thrilled after spending almost $3000 (and im some cases more) on their TV.

I guess $3000 still doesn't guarantee you a perfect tv.

Are we ever satisfied? Really are we?
post #1221 of 4112
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Originally Posted by dvrmstrng View Post

I've been following this thread for a while now (as well at the ST30 thread) and Im worried that so many people aren't completely thrilled after spending almost $3000 (and im some cases more) on their TV.

I guess $3000 still doesn't guarantee you a perfect tv.

Your looking at the wrong forums if you want people to.be.completely satisfied You'll see dissatisfaction in "something" as mmany people here are always looking for flaws that many folks would not notice or care about. The best thing to do is to go see the set in person and see if YOU like it. Remember most people don't come on the forums because they are happy with their product, they come because there is an issue with it.

As far as perfect tv goes its a subjective statement your perfect TV may be different then my perfect TV. I don't think well ever se a "perfect" TV where everyone is 100% happy with it.
post #1222 of 4112
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Originally Posted by Bigham16 View Post

Menu - System - General - Game mode. I think as the TV is not in front of me.

That's it, thanks.
post #1223 of 4112
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Originally Posted by dvrmstrng View Post

I've been following this thread for a while now (as well at the ST30 thread) and Im worried that so many people aren't completely thrilled after spending almost $3000 (and im some cases more) on their TV.

I guess $3000 still doesn't guarantee you a perfect tv.

There are some people who think their $90,000 car is far from perfect. There are others who would think that same car is flawless and beyond anything they'd ever need. Purchasing a television isn't something to be "worried" about. If you are, maybe you shouldn't buy any TV.
post #1224 of 4112
Quick question I was watching spiderman 2 on HBO and the set started blinking every 30sec. I started to freak out thinking this was the blinking some of these owners were talking about. But I tried the other channels and nothing so is it the signal off of that one channel? or is it my TV?
post #1225 of 4112
I doubt the blinking is the set. The fluctuating brightness we've experienced is very sudden, but in my experience it tends to only happen very rarely.

I took a picture of the line bleed that my set exhibits, which can be seen in the attached picture. I also noticed line bleed on the D8000 at Best Buy. Does everyone experience this? If so, it's something I will just learn to live with, but if not I am thinking about exchanging my set.
LL
post #1226 of 4112
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Originally Posted by mobilelawyer View Post
That is great to hear! What pre break-in precautions are you taking with your settings, if any? Some have cautioned users to back off on the intitial brightness settings. Do you agree?

There is no need to use any break-in precautions for modern plasmas. I am watching with settings that satisfy me.

Larry
post #1227 of 4112
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post
There is no need to use any break-in precautions for modern plasmas. I am watching with settings that satisfy me.

Larry
I am doing that too. Hope I do not live to regret it!

I took no such precautions with my 2005 Panasonic Plasma, and it has no burn in at all.
post #1228 of 4112
I get my D8000 tomorrow. It'll replace a C8000. I'm not too hung up on the burn-in slides, but I am wondering about cabling everything up before turning it on. Is there any reason not to hook up the CAT5, SPDIF, Wii Components, and HDMI cables before I power up the D8000 for the first time? Is there some kind of setup first? Do any of those cables need to go in after a setup?
post #1229 of 4112
I cannot think of any reason not to do so. I know with the 7000, I had to go to the website and download the firmware update, and install it via a usb drive, rather than have it update through the ethernet connection. They were having some sets hang at the update, so they disabled the direct update. May work fine for the 8000.
post #1230 of 4112
placed my order for the 64d7000...delivery is tuesday night.

The guy said they 3d kit currently isnt coming with the 64D7000 but to come in next week with my receipt and there will be some type of 3D starter package available. Any idea what he is talking about? (best buy)
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