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post #2731 of 4112
Welcome plasma converts sit back and enjoy...
post #2732 of 4112
Larry,

THere was another thread about that odd thing showing up on the bezel. It might be that the glass (2 pieces) is coming apart. See if the things are getting bigger than call Samsung. It is a known problem. I have 2 of those on my 6500 and it hasnt gotten bigger so Im fine my tv!
post #2733 of 4112
wtf sense does this make? I put in a dvd to watch and nothing causes it to be in the proper aspect ratio. Whether using 16:9 or screen fit, it has bars on ALL FOUR sides of the picture. And wide fit cuts off parts of the picture. I've never had any tv do this for a disc. Now I have to go watch a movie on my directv dvr instead of watching this movie because no setting puts it in its ratio.
post #2734 of 4112
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Originally Posted by midnight77 View Post

wtf sense does this make? I put in a dvd to watch and nothing causes it to be in the proper aspect ratio. Whether using 16:9 or screen fit, it has bars on ALL FOUR sides of the picture. And wide fit cuts off parts of the picture. I've never had any tv do this for a disc. Now I have to go watch a movie on my directv dvr instead of watching this movie because no setting puts it in its ratio.

Your player also has aspect adjustments too...
post #2735 of 4112
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Originally Posted by AtDaBeach View Post

Your player also has aspect adjustments too...

I know. And it was unrelated to that. For example I put another dvd in which filled the whole screen. Both dvds were listed as 1.86:1 (or 1.87... whatever it is). So apparently one was anamorphic and one wasn't or something, but never have I witnessed a disk be incapable of filling a screen until now. So got to assume it's the tv or it would have happened before on an older tv. Pretty sad when any disc whatsoever could even possibly be impossible to get into the correct ratio.

Another annoying thing about this tv is how game mode isn't even a picture mode setting. It';s a menu item. And if you use it then it FORCES YOU to use movie sound mode. Like I said before it's kind of humorous that all these years people who were pro-plasma kept saying one reason to choose plasma was because of no lag. And then in reality they have as much lag as many lcds. They also say blacks are better, yet nothing has better blacks than the lcd sony hx929. Not even a kuro. So most blanket statements about plasma vs. lcd are now incorrect. I wonder if the lag issue was ever true at any point though.

Gotta lvoe how I finally buy this tv as my final choice (from somewhere not easy to return without paying shipping) and before it even ships I am already wodnering if it was a bad decision again. I had forgotten to test gaming before placing the latest order and now I felt sick when gplaying rock band 3 on it, partly due to screen size and aprtly due to lag. Probably not as bad lag as my 40v2500 or the ex500 I tried, but not as good as the hx820.
post #2736 of 4112
I don't know if this is the proper location to post this (TV stand related question), but I'm looking to get the 59" version of this Samsung model. Because I have a center speaker that is 6.5" tall (Polk CS10) and it would rest in front of this TV, I don't want it to crowd/cover any of the actual television screen, or the panel itself for that matter. I was considering wall mounts, but I don't want to punch holes through the wall in my home.

I'm considering a TV stand that has a built-in mount, and given the positive reviews and complementary wood finish that would fit well in my room, I was looking at this TV stand:

http://www.amazon.com/Walker-Edison-...cmu_pg__header

Does anybody else have it with this television? I wanted to know if it would actually place appropriately on the mount (there are four different types, I believe), it would look good with the stand given the gunmetal black panel of the television, and it would be high enough that it would rise above my center speaker, but not so high that I have a clear view of the mount in the background.

If anyone else has any other TV stand recommendations based on my given predicament, I would love to hear your inputs. Thanks!
post #2737 of 4112
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Originally Posted by midnight77 View Post

I know. And it was unrelated to that. For example I put another dvd in which filled the whole screen. Both dvds were listed as 1.86:1 (or 1.87... whatever it is). So apparently one was anamorphic and one wasn't or something, but never have I witnessed a disk be incapable of filling a screen until now. So got to assume it's the tv or it would have happened before on an older tv. Pretty sad when any disc whatsoever could even possibly be impossible to get into the correct ratio.

Another annoying thing about this tv is how game mode isn't even a picture mode setting. It';s a menu item. And if you use it then it FORCES YOU to use movie sound mode. Like I said before it's kind of humorous that all these years people who were pro-plasma kept saying one reason to choose plasma was because of no lag. And then in reality they have as much lag as many lcds. They also say blacks are better, yet nothing has better blacks than the lcd sony hx929. Not even a kuro. So most blanket statements about plasma vs. lcd are now incorrect. I wonder if the lag issue was ever true at any point though.

Gotta lvoe how I finally buy this tv as my final choice (from somewhere not easy to return without paying shipping) and before it even ships I am already wodnering if it was a bad decision again. I had forgotten to test gaming before placing the latest order and now I felt sick when gplaying rock band 3 on it, partly due to screen size and aprtly due to lag. Probably not as bad lag as my 40v2500 or the ex500 I tried, but not as good as the hx820.

I have never had any lag issues with gaming and I play alot of FPS games. Just because you had a bad experience with your plasma doesn't mean it applies to the entire plasma category. Don't like than just return it lol
post #2738 of 4112
This is off topic...but I have never seen anyone complain as much as midnight77. And how did you watch a dvd on it if it hasn't shipped yet? You are getting confusing.
post #2739 of 4112
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

I have never had any lag issues with gaming and I play alot of FPS games. Just because you had a bad experience with your plasma doesn't mean it applies to the entire plasma category. Don't like than just return it lol

No, but the input lag thread shows it does apply to all as they're far from 0 lag on any model, whereas the misconception is that plasmas have little to no lag. This model, inf act, can have over 50 lag at times apparently.
post #2740 of 4112
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Originally Posted by slvrdrgn123 View Post

This is off topic...but I have never seen anyone complain as much as midnight77. And how did you watch a dvd on it if it hasn't shipped yet? You are getting confusing.

Because I already have one here that I am returning and buying another elsewhere because of not only price difference, but this one was buzzing.

So nobody has an explanation why I shouldn't be able to watch a movie in the appropriate AR? That's somethign ANYONE would complain about. This site is known for having people who demand exact ratios to be proper.
post #2741 of 4112
dvd player ? what dvd?
post #2742 of 4112
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Originally Posted by RobZ View Post

Just noticed my set is also doing this. It has also started peeling in one corner after several months.

Return it for the peeling...but the pictured I posted I found the reason. Menu --> System --> Screen Burn In Protection --> Pixel Shift --> turn off

Stupid feature IMO and seems to turn it self on as I have witnessed
post #2743 of 4112
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Originally Posted by Larry M View Post

Return it for the peeling...but the pictured I posted I found the reason. Menu --> System --> Screen Burn In Protection --> Pixel Shift --> turn off

Stupid feature IMO and seems to turn it self on as I have witnessed

Oh cool thanks. Now I'm just going to keep an eye on the peeling. It is very minimal on one corner and doesn't cross onto the pixels.
post #2744 of 4112
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Originally Posted by midnight77 View Post

I know. And it was unrelated to that. For example I put another dvd in which filled the whole screen. Both dvds were listed as 1.86:1 (or 1.87... whatever it is). So apparently one was anamorphic and one wasn't or something, but never have I witnessed a disk be incapable of filling a screen until now. So got to assume it's the tv or it would have happened before on an older tv. Pretty sad when any disc whatsoever could even possibly be impossible to get into the correct ratio.

Another annoying thing about this tv is how game mode isn't even a picture mode setting. It';s a menu item. And if you use it then it FORCES YOU to use movie sound mode. Like I said before it's kind of humorous that all these years people who were pro-plasma kept saying one reason to choose plasma was because of no lag. And then in reality they have as much lag as many lcds. They also say blacks are better, yet nothing has better blacks than the lcd sony hx929. Not even a kuro. So most blanket statements about plasma vs. lcd are now incorrect. I wonder if the lag issue was ever true at any point though.

Gotta lvoe how I finally buy this tv as my final choice (from somewhere not easy to return without paying shipping) and before it even ships I am already wodnering if it was a bad decision again. I had forgotten to test gaming before placing the latest order and now I felt sick when gplaying rock band 3 on it, partly due to screen size and aprtly due to lag. Probably not as bad lag as my 40v2500 or the ex500 I tried, but not as good as the hx820.

Sounds odd. That has never happened to me, nor have I heard it happening to anyone else. I'm not saying you are lying or don't know what your doing but I'm going to go ahead and assume user error.

When it comes to gaming, this is the first Plasma I've ever owned and it kills every other Sony, Samsung and LG LCD/LED I've used. I don't even use Game Mode and there is ZERO lag while playing COD and Madden. If your getting lag, there might be something wrong with your TV because this TV has a response time of 0.001.

If you don't like it, just return it for that Sony you are talking about. Personally, I wish I had gone Plasma sooner. I have never seen such a realistic yet stunning picture. I have a 40in. Sony LED in the living room that will soon be getting replaced with a Plasma.

Football and Hockey has never looked so smooth and stunning.

If you like bright, eye popping colors then go with LED. If you like a more natural color then stick with plasma. Either way, I don't ever think a LED has won the shootout for best color reproduction. I actually think the 7000 series plasma is winning this year for best color accuracy.
post #2745 of 4112
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Originally Posted by ObsceneJesster View Post

Sounds odd. That has never happened to me, nor have I heard it happening to anyone else. I'm not saying you are lying or don't know what your doing but I'm going to go ahead and assume user error.

When it comes to gaming, this is the first Plasma I've ever owned and it kills every other Sony, Samsung and LG LCD/LED I've used. I don't even use Game Mode and there is ZERO lag while playing COD and Madden. If your getting lag, there might be something wrong with your TV because this TV has a response time of 0.001.

If you don't like it, just return it for that Sony you are talking about. Personally, I wish I had gone Plasma sooner. I have never seen such a realistic yet stunning picture. I have a 40in. Sony LED in the living room that will soon be getting replaced with a Plasma.

Football and Hockey has never looked so smooth and stunning.

If you like bright, eye popping colors then go with LED. If you like a more natural color then stick with plasma. Either way, I don't ever think a LED has won the shootout for best color reproduction. I actually think the 7000 series plasma is winning this year for best color accuracy.

I doubt it's user errr. I tried both 16( original and 16:9 wide on the blu ray settings and I tried every single aspect ratio mode on the tv.
post #2746 of 4112
I paid extra for "white glove" delivery and apparently to this company all it means is bring it in the door and then leave. I live in an aprtment so they would have probably had to do this anyway as there isn't much room to leave it anywhere else. Now ay I can lift the tv myself, I'm pretty sure so I pauid extra for nothing really.

Also I can just about guarantee it will be the old version and I would hate to just automatically send it back and got through that mess of trying to get a newer one. I assume all of the old ones have that peeling issue though. I may have to just let samsung come fix it themselves. And my eye strain is back from time to time so still worried as to whether this was a good choice or not. I hope so. I was indeed smart to hurry up placing that order though. As i figured the price went up within hours of me ordering it. It's still cheaper than anywhere else, but still almost $200 more than yesterday.
post #2747 of 4112
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Originally Posted by midnight77 View Post

I doubt it's user errr. I tried both 16( original and 16:9 wide on the blu ray settings and I tried every single aspect ratio mode on the tv.

Sorry man...maybe it's your player. My d7000 works like any widescreen set I have owned. No problems here. Love this set.
post #2748 of 4112
I have a 64D7000 and I tested playing the Playstation 3 racing game demo Motorstorm Apocalypse. I noticed a lot of ghosting while playing it in 3D.

Is this likely a problem with the game itself or with my configuration on the PS3 or the TV? Are there any settings that I can change to fix this, or is this a limitation/side effect of the TV?
post #2749 of 4112
Hmmm.

Had my TV set up for 2 days now. Almost immediately noticed a large band running top-to-bottom, in the middle of the set, of lighter colors. The left and right edges seem lighter, as well. Quite noticeable during any moderately dark scene. Here is a photo of my screen with my DVD screensaver running.



It is present with difference sources (blu-ray + xbox 360). I have already tried using both ferrous cores on the power supply cable, using just one, moving the cores, using a surge protector, plugging the TV directly into the wall, using different outlets.

Already put in a service request to Samsung. Thoughts ?
post #2750 of 4112
I have always always always turned off Digital Noise Filter and MPEG Noise Filter on every TV I have owned. I was playing around with the settings and with these turned on a significant improvement in both HD and SD signals. Anyone want to chime in? Always thought these degrade pic quality.
post #2751 of 4112
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Originally Posted by Lestat Phoenix View Post

I have always always always turned off Digital Noise Filter and MPEG Noise Filter and every TV I have owned. I was playing around with the settings and with these turned on a significant improvement in both HD and SD signals. Anyone want to chime in? Always thought these degrade pic quality.

That might be because those will have a lot of processed crap as is. I think most people here make their settings so that they're viewing their content "as originally intended." This is especially important for Blu-ray discs, which for the most part is uncompressed. If you leave those settings on for your cable box, at least try and leave them off for your BD player.
post #2752 of 4112
My Tv is doing the same thing and can't deal with it anymore! Did you get any feedback from anyone?
post #2753 of 4112
Hello d7000 owners. What's this 1080p/24 issue that Katzmeyer on CNET is talking about? When you're watching a blu-ray movie, is there something strange noticeable? He says the TV doesn't perform as well as he hoped with 1080p/24.

Also, if there is excessive buzzing or peeling, is it smarter to deal with Samsung for them to fix the issue or return with Amazon?
post #2754 of 4112
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Originally Posted by revenicus View Post

Hello d7000 owners. What's this 1080p/24 issue that Katzmeyer on CNET is talking about? When you're watching a blu-ray movie, is there something strange noticeable? He says the TV doesn't perform as well as he hoped with 1080p/24.

Also, if there is excessive buzzing or peeling, is it smarter to deal with Samsung for them to fix the issue or return with Amazon?

I'm not sure if there were any actual issues with how the 1080/24p runs, but the black level is a wee-bit brighter with Cinema Smooth enabled.

For those who watch in pitch black rooms, which is more important to you? Which do you use? CS on or off? Are the black levels significantly brighter where it's rendered a useless feature for movies?

By the way, I'm getting my panel tomorrow, which is why I'm asking.
post #2755 of 4112
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Originally Posted by muffinmcfluffin View Post


I'm not sure if there were any actual issues with how the 1080/24p runs, but the black level is a wee-bit brighter with Cinema Smooth enabled.

For those who watch in pitch black rooms, which is more important to you? Which do you use? CS on or off? Are the black levels significantly brighter where it's rendered a useless feature for movies?

By the way, I'm getting my panel tomorrow, which is why I'm asking.

Cinema smooth looks great, but you have to decide whether the black level loss is a problem in your environment. The rise is easy for me to see, but so are the positive effects of CS. No wrong or right.
post #2756 of 4112
Just cancelled my order at BestBuy/Magnolia Home Theater for the PN59D700. I got the PN59D8000 with a longer warranty for $400 cheaper at Pacific Sales.
post #2757 of 4112
So I just got this TV, and I'm currently running break-in slides.

However, I think I see a defect. About 2/3 up the screen, there's like a 1/2" horizontal bar of picture that is faintly, faintly, faintly darker than the rest of the screen. I would really have to point it out for somebody else to see it, but I think my eyes are just good for this this kind of thing. It might actually be obtrusive during movie watching, but I really don't know yet. Right now, I'm just fixated on it for the most part. I wish I never saw it, but now that I have, it's all I'm paying attention to.

Again, it was noticed by complete accident, but I wonder/worry if it will remain there, and be obtrusive enough that I notice it forever more. If returning the item meant all I had to do was close my eyes for five seconds and re-open them, I'd have no problem doing it. But I'm not a fan of having to package up this **** again and asking to return an item, etc. just to get maybe another melon somehow.

This is a complete non-issue for anybody who can't see it, and hopefully after running slides it will either go away, or just during normal viewing it will be unnoticeable. For the time being, though, my mind is just keen on that one thing, and that one thing only. Damn myself!

I want to keep this TV because it's not a super loud buzzer (I hear it with no volume, but like seeing the screen defect, I'd have to be listening for it to hear it), and I obviously don't want to have to deal with the hassle of returning the screen. Plus, I'm already breaking this one in.

EDIT: Nevermind, normal viewing shows that I can't see it even if I'm looking for it. The image would have to be really static, and showing the same thing across the board for it to even be perceivable. It would still be nice if I didn't have that kind of issue though lol, because I still don't know what it will be like for gaming.
post #2758 of 4112
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Originally Posted by AtDaBeach View Post

Cinema smooth looks great, but you have to decide whether the black level loss is a problem in your environment. The rise is easy for me to see, but so are the positive effects of CS. No wrong or right.

Yeah, I did a comparison while watching Transformers: DOTM. While deeper blacks are always an awesome thing, they already are pretty damn deep (at least, compared to my old 23" LCD I'm replacing lol). 24p is a new feature for me that I've never had in a TV, so I have a feeling that I'd rather enable that, as opposed to the deeper blacks.

Is there any particular reason the levels rise when this is enabled? Like fluctuating brightness, is this something that perhaps can be fixed in a firmware update?
post #2759 of 4112
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Originally Posted by Larry M View Post

Damn you Samsung!!!
My August build is great so far EXCEPT for some random reason I have anywhere from 1 to 4 rows of inactive pixels (black) on the top or on the left side.

Thus far this morning I have noticed 4 along the top, 4 along the side, 2 on the top with 1 on the side.

Really damn annoying because the TV looks great, no peel, no buzz, and runs real cool

Am I missing something here?

Larry, how long did it take for your buzzing to go away? I exchanged my peeler for a new one, but now it's buzzing noticeably louder than my first one. Picture looks great and it's not peeling. Interestingly, my first one was a June build and my current one is a May build.

Thanks for the help!
post #2760 of 4112
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Originally Posted by muffinmcfluffin View Post


Yeah, I did a comparison while watching Transformers: DOTM. While deeper blacks are always an awesome thing, they already are pretty damn deep (at least, compared to my old 23" LCD I'm replacing lol). 24p is a new feature for me that I've never had in a TV, so I have a feeling that I'd rather enable that, as opposed to the deeper blacks.

Is there any particular reason the levels rise when this is enabled? Like fluctuating brightness, is this something that perhaps can be fixed in a firmware update?

With the refresh rate at 96hz, I think it has something to do with the cell discharge. No way they can fix it via FW IMO, but it does get better every year. Much better than panny offers, because you only get it on the vt and they are know for flicker.
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