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post #301 of 4112
4/9/11 at 11:11am
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Originally Posted by SikOne View Post

Does anyone know if this tv supports audio return channel? I can't seem to get the TV to output the sound via HDMI to my Onkyo 608 when I'm using the Smart HUB. The manual says something about this TV not supporting Ethernet functionality thru HDMI. I was wondering if that had something to do with it?

I'm getting my TV mounted next week and I need to know if I just need to go ahead and get an optical cable for the audio out from the TV.

I have the 59d7000 and love it so far. Tron Legacy was awesome both for video and audio on my setup.

It does. Not sure if the Onkyo 608 does though. My Onkyo 705 didn't.
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post #302 of 4112
4/9/11 at 12:41pm
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Originally Posted by Snejenka View Post

It does. Not sure if the Onkyo 608 does though. My Onkyo 705 didn't.

Thanks for the reply. The 608 does. I set it to "Auto" in the menu, and it says to change the input to "TV/CD". No sound. I just may give in and get the optical cable from monoprice before the installers get here.
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post #303 of 4112
4/9/11 at 2:05pm
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My household is all Mac and I'm trying to do exactly that, but it's not easy finding a good DLNA server for Mac. I've heard suggestions, but none that work really well so far. My receiver should be able to stream FLAC files to as well but haven't been able to yet. I still need to pick one and tinker with the file formats of what I want to send.

I'm thinking of going the NAS route.

Even my PS50A756 from 2009 works great with PS3 Media Server for Mac
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post #304 of 4112
4/9/11 at 2:25pm
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I'm thinking of going the NAS route.

Thanks for responding. I'll have to do some reading on NAS as I'm not familiar with that.
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post #305 of 4112
4/9/11 at 2:33pm
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Even my PS50A756 from 2009 works great with PS3 Media Server for Mac

Thanks will try that next.
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post #306 of 4112
4/9/11 at 2:37pm
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Originally Posted by SikOne View Post

Thanks for the reply. The 608 does. I set it to "Auto" in the menu, and it says to change the input to "TV/CD". No sound. I just may give in and get the optical cable from monoprice before the installers get here.

It's likely only 1 or 2 of the TV's inputs are ARC compatible. You should make sure you have it plugged into the numbered HDMI that's labeled for ARC. There may also be a menu option buried in the TV that turns it on/off.
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post #307 of 4112
4/9/11 at 3:59pm
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Originally Posted by Bigham16 View Post

Mine seems the complete opposite from BO). Goes from normal to dark rather than normal to bright.

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Originally Posted by koffas View Post

Sounds similar to what I posted about earlier... an instantaneous MLL shift that is a function of the APL... I can perceive it in letterbox bars but not full-screen content. My hunch was that this is the mysterious LCE (even though it's only spec'd to be on the D8000 and why it keeps getting rehashed in this thread).

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I just got this TV up last night and also noticed this issue. the picture changes from brighter to darker occasionally while watching HDMI connected HD cable source. happened a handful of times while watching for around an hour. could this be a certain picture setting issue? or burn in prevention feature ????

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Just making sure... do you guys have all the ECO options and motion lighting turned off in each picture preset?

Check this out: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=5591
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post #308 of 4112
4/9/11 at 9:20pm
For what its worth, I have noticed on my c8000 that the black level shifts too at times. At first I thought it was my imagination when I was watching full screen material, but now I have confirmed it on a letterbox version of Top Gun I was checking out. The scene I saw it happen in was not even very dynamic, it was just two guys talking in a room without much change in scene picture at all. I noticed 3 very distinct shifts in brightness of the black bars in about 10 seconds, which occurred when I rewound it, 3 times in a row.

I tried this both with Eco mode both off and on, with the same results, in a pitch black room. Dynamic contrast was off, as were any other filters that I thought could have had an effect on this.

It really doesn't bother me, the shift is pretty minimal. It does remind me a little bit of the G25 I had, but that was much more frequent with the shifting.

So for those of you who are worried about LCE or that somehow the 2011 line has introduced floating blacks, I would not worry too much about it. I will be able to compare soon though when I have the d series set up.

There are variables of course, such as this is a 2.3gb compressed avi file. So I can't say that I am watching a perfect source. Didn't think that compression would affect the black bar brightness however, since this should be total black at all times. Time to put in Star Trek Bluray and see what happens.

Edit: Test with the Star Trek Bluray and noticed it right away, around minute 1:27. Closed my hands around the black bar to make sure it wasn't just my eye playing a trick on me. Definite shift in black level, or cell light, whatever you want to call it. The other variable is that I am playing everything through ps3 so I don't know if that enters anything new into the equation or not. Bottom line though, its not too bad and not nearly what the G25 was doing.
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post #309 of 4112
4/10/11 at 5:08am
Received 2 damaged PN64D7000's last week from Amazon (forklift damage/cracked panel). Leaving on a trip and Amazon could not guarantee delivery on time. At this point would love to pick one up myself locally (BB, Paul's TV) but no one has it and even if they did BB is selling at list.

I'll be monitoring this post with envy until I can get my hands on one. Enjoy guys
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post #310 of 4112
4/10/11 at 9:43am
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Originally Posted by chisler33 View Post

thanks. any buzzing issues?

Buzzing is noticeably reduced vs the C7000 -- though I didn't find the buzz/hum annoying on that display (relative to my seated position). It seems Samsung put that 0.1" increase in depth to good use.
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post #311 of 4112
4/10/11 at 9:47am
To anyone with the rising brightness of this panel... Does turning of all dynamic contrast settings and the Eco mode eliminate this issue? And does anyone know if this is happening on the D8000 series?

Also, how fast are the phosphors of this plasma? I am very sensitive to phosphor trails and I'm hoping that Samsung's new faster panels help a lot.
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post #312 of 4112
4/10/11 at 9:49am
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Check this out: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=5591

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Originally Posted by Timmatron View Post

For what its worth, I have noticed on my c8000 that the black level shifts too at times. At first I thought it was my imagination when I was watching full screen material, but now I have confirmed it on a letterbox version of Top Gun I was checking out. The scene I saw it happen in was not even very dynamic, it was just two guys talking in a room without much change in scene picture at all. I noticed 3 very distinct shifts in brightness of the black bars in about 10 seconds, which occurred when I rewound it, 3 times in a row.

I tried this both with Eco mode both off and on, with the same results, in a pitch black room. Dynamic contrast was off, as were any other filters that I thought could have had an effect on this.

It really doesn't bother me, the shift is pretty minimal. It does remind me a little bit of the G25 I had, but that was much more frequent with the shifting.

So for those of you who are worried about LCE or that somehow the 2011 line has introduced floating blacks, I would not worry too much about it. I will be able to compare soon though when I have the d series set up.

There are variables of course, such as this is a 2.3gb compressed avi file. So I can't say that I am watching a perfect source. Didn't think that compression would affect the black bar brightness however, since this should be total black at all times. Time to put in Star Trek Bluray and see what happens.

Edit: Test with the Star Trek Bluray and noticed it right away, around minute 1:27. Closed my hands around the black bar to make sure it wasn't just my eye playing a trick on me. Definite shift in black level, or cell light, whatever you want to call it. The other variable is that I am playing everything through ps3 so I don't know if that enters anything new into the equation or not. Bottom line though, its not too bad and not nearly what the G25 was doing.

With all energy-saving options disabled, a subtle shift can still be perceived by those with MLL OCD. I know some UK reviews commented on this, but no C-series owners on AVS (myself included) remarked on it. Timmatron -- thanks for commenting on this behavior on your C8000. Unlike the delayed float on some of the 2010 Panasonics, the effect is instantaneous with the APL (which helps mask it from normal viewing distances).
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post #313 of 4112
4/10/11 at 9:54am
Hi everyone, I've got a 61 samsung DLP thats 5 yrs old so I'm looking at the Samsung PN64D7000. I have my pc hooked up now via hdmi but the nvidia card requires me to drop to a custom resolution less than 1920x1080. This is an ongoing problem with nvidia and hdtvs. I have heard that this tvs "screen fit" option will fix this problem and allow me to use a true 1920x1080 resolution. Can anyone comment on this?

I have dropped my overpriced cable subscription and watch all my entertainment over the internet. I am also an avid pc and xbox360 gamer. My 61 sammy DLP is still an awesome set and can you believe i have never had to replace the bulb in it. Its been 5 years and it is on constantly. Anyway these new plasmas look awesome. I bought thru Crutchfield last time and may do so again. Its at $3059 right now. Thats about 300 less than what i paid for the dlp 5 yrs ago...Lol. Thanks everyone Great forum!!!!!
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post #314 of 4112
4/10/11 at 7:39pm
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With all energy-saving options disabled, a subtle shift can still be perceived by those with MLL OCD. I know some UK reviews commented on this, but no C-series owners on AVS (myself included) remarked on it. Timmatron -- thanks for commenting on this behavior on your C8000. Unlike the delayed float on some of the 2010 Panasonics, the effect is instantaneous with the APL (which helps mask it from normal viewing distances).

I wouldn't say I'm OCD, well maybe just a little bit. But watching tv today I noticed this effect so many times, even when watching full screen Masters golf on cable during daytime with plenty of light in the room. Then watched another Bluray tonight and had the shift happen many many times. I wouldnt call it instantaneous, because most often it happens in the middle of a scene that is not changing much at all. It just seems to shift for no good reason at all, and then back again after a couple seconds. Strange.
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post #315 of 4112
4/10/11 at 7:47pm
Happens with mine, too. I haven't seen it while watching a bluray yet, which would really be unacceptable.
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post #316 of 4112
4/10/11 at 8:25pm
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Originally Posted by isyoox View Post

Happens with mine, too. I haven't seen it while watching a bluray yet, which would really be unacceptable.

Yeah, for me its kind of insult to injury considering the poor black (gray) levels of the 50"' c8000 that I have. Swapping it next week for the d7000 so hopefully at least blacks are somewhat improved.
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post #317 of 4112
4/10/11 at 8:33pm
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Originally Posted by Timmatron View Post

I wouldn't say I'm OCD, well maybe just a little bit. But watching tv today I noticed this effect so many times, even when watching full screen Masters golf on cable during daytime with plenty of light in the room. Then watched another Bluray tonight and had the shift happen many many times. I wouldnt call it instantaneous, because most often it happens in the middle of a scene that is not changing much at all. It just seems to shift for no good reason at all, and then back again after a couple seconds. Strange.

I have a c8000 and don't have that problem. I'm looking into getting a d7000 or d8000. Just so I'm clear, are you all describing a problem that can be described as a subtler version of having the Eco Sensor set to On (even though you have it Off), and someone turns on or off the light in the room? how long does the 'shift' take before you get back to the original look of the picture?
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post #318 of 4112
4/11/11 at 7:55am
I'm still having trouble using Vudu on my 59D7000. I keep getting a message that there's a problem with the Vudu service. The code listed is INVALID_EVAL. Any ideas how to fix this?
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post #319 of 4112
4/11/11 at 9:22am
Hey guys,

I've been tempted to upgrade to a D series since they were announced. I spoil myself a bit on TVs and like to upgrade frequently. I'm coming from a PN58C8000 and I'll be curious to compare the two in terms of performance.

I had my C calibrated and I'm happy to post those settings to help you fellas out. The Ds correct settings shouldn't be too far off.


cl 20
contrast 90
brightness 45
sharpness 0
color 45-48 for tv/film - 55 for video games
tint 49/51

advanced
bt darkest
dynamic contrast off
gamma +2
color space custom
red 39 3 7
green 46 63 0
blue 3 0 54
yellow 55 52 8
cyan 37 50 50
magenta 38 1 64

wb 30-29-28-23-18-24
flesh tone -1
edge enhancement on

pic options
Tone: warm 2
size: 16:9
noise filter: off
MPEG noise: off
hdmi black: low
MJC off

Again, these settings won't perfectly translate to the D series as some of these features are discontinued. Hope they help though.

My 64D7000 should arrive on Thursday. I ordered it for $2669 (no tax & free shipping) from EastCoastTVs.

I'll be happy to post pictures, impressions, settings, and any other information you guys request when I take delivery.

Feel free to post or PM me with any questions in advance and I'll respond appropriately. You guys have helped me so its the least I can do.

Sorry for the lengthy post.
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post #320 of 4112
4/11/11 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by sdot770 View Post

I'm still having trouble using Vudu on my 59D7000. I keep getting a message that there's a problem with the Vudu service. The code listed is INVALID_EVAL. Any ideas how to fix this?

Yes, I still have this issue. I believe Koffas has it also. I contacted Vudu support, but they want you to perform a test of your network. It is not my network, because I have a Panny T110 bluRay player that it works on.

I think that it is a problem with Vudu not up to date with the 2011 Samsung plasmas, but I could be wrong.
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post #321 of 4112
4/11/11 at 10:49am
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Yes, I still have this issue. I believe Koffas has it also. I contacted Vudu support, but they want you to perform a test of your network. It is not my network, because I have a Panny T110 bluRay player that it works on.

I think that it is a problem with Vudu not up to date with the 2011 Samsung plasmas, but I could be wrong.

Ditto. VUdu works fine on my BluRay player, on same network as PN 64D7000 (which gives the same error code you are reporting)
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post #322 of 4112
4/11/11 at 12:03pm
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Yes, I still have this issue. I believe Koffas has it also. I contacted Vudu support, but they want you to perform a test of your network. It is not my network, because I have a Panny T110 bluRay player that it works on.

I think that it is a problem with Vudu not up to date with the 2011 Samsung plasmas, but I could be wrong.

Thanks for the response. That's what my thinking was as well since it works fine on my PS3 as well. I guess we still have the waiting game going on.


BTW, Samsung's website is currently selling the 3D glasses for 49.99 on their website!! This new pricing wasn't supposed to go into effect until 5/1/11. Also, the lightweight glasses are $40.00 cheaper as well.
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post #323 of 4112
4/11/11 at 1:11pm
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Yeah, I still get the "invalid_eval" error message with the VUDU app on the TV. No issues with the app from my 2010 BD-C6900 blu-ray player. I spoke with VUDU customer service last week and they said they were aware of the problem. The agent had me perform a trace route to vault.cx.vudu.com and email the results to help them diagnose the issue.

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BTW, Samsung's website is currently selling the 3D glasses for 49.99 on their website!! This new pricing wasn't supposed to go into effect until 5/1/11. Also, the lightweight glasses are $40.00 cheaper as well.

I see the $49.99 price, but when you go to checkout it's still $129.99.
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs-...-3100GB/ZA-buy
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post #324 of 4112
4/11/11 at 2:13pm
Exactly my experience. I called and live chat and they don't have a clue. Advised to email their webmaster about it. I did but no high hopes here.
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post #325 of 4112
4/11/11 at 3:46pm
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My TV does have a pretty nasty directional buzz, which is pinpointed right at my prime seating area (directly ahead, eye level, 8' away). The intensity varies depending on what's on screen -- brighter scenes tend to cause it to spike. It's unacceptably annoying, I mean real loud, and everyone who has seen my set can hear it. I called Samsung and they're sending out a technician next Monday to have a look.
The tech just took a look at my set and said that the buzz was within spec, and there's nothing he could do. The official line is that you should be seated 10 ft away with the TV volume at level 20, and if they can still hear the buzz then, it's out of spec and they'll attempt a repair. The issue I have is that the buzz is not consistent, so it could be not present or not noticeable at volume, then a quiet scene hits and the buzz spikes. There's no way you could miss it, you'd have to be deaf.

Anyway I'm bummed. Watched a bunch of 1080p content this weekend that looked absolutely amazing, but this TV has to go back. I'd get a replacement but there's no guarantee that the buzzing won't be there, and I don't want to play the tv lottery, especially with an online retailer. I guess I'm going to get a LCD that I know is buzz free, but I haven't seen any models that really do it for me. Oh well!
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post #326 of 4112
4/11/11 at 3:49pm
What's the measured mll/black level of this TV? Anybody have numbers?
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post #327 of 4112
4/11/11 at 4:04pm
are people still experiencing brightness pops?
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post #328 of 4112
4/11/11 at 4:17pm
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Originally Posted by chisler33 View Post
are people still experiencing brightness pops?
The fix is to reset the TV
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post #329 of 4112
4/11/11 at 4:21pm
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Originally Posted by hotskins View Post
The fix is to reset the TV
how do you do that and does it solve the problem?
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4/11/11 at 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by XciteMe83 View Post
What's the measured mll/black level of this TV? Anybody have numbers?
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