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post #4021 of 4123
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Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

Where did you end up with the fleshtone setting? I was playing around with some new patterns from this thread which contain 2 fleshtone windows with target x,y. On my D8000 negative fleshtone moves y toward yellow (positive toward pink). The total movement possible is ~0.03, anyway to align to the test pattern required a setting of -10. The change is subtle but if you do an A/B comparison using D/N mode for instance the -10 setting looks better.

I'm at -8 for Fleshtone. I got Baraka yesterday...man, that's a beautiful blu ray. Really happy with my display.
post #4022 of 4123
Does Game mode help protect the tv from image retention? If not, what does it do?
post #4023 of 4123
Think it simply reduces display lag for more responsive gaming. Nothing reduces IR besides backing off brightness.
post #4024 of 4123
You know, I have experienced less buzzing after 6 months of having the 59 inch D7000. I wonder has other people notice the same thing?

I enjoy this tv more and more each day. The black levels and uniformity of lighting is the best I have ever had. It will be hard for me to go back to LCD or LED.

I got a friend than now wants to get rid of his Sammy LED because of looking at movies on my tv.
post #4025 of 4123
airman23, thats interesting. Have you any idea how they measure at full white signal? Which is brighter? Smaller sets tend to be brighter, so maybe the 55" st50 is on par with the 59" d7000. I would be very curious to hear from someone who might have some measured values to present. :-) I have looked for it, but not found anything.
post #4026 of 4123
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Originally Posted by SRTer View Post

You know, I have experienced less buzzing after 6 months of having the 59 inch D7000. I wonder has other people notice the same thing?...

Mine may be slightly quieter, but it's tough to say for sure. Could be I've just gotten used to it. I haven't seen any other comments about buzzing being reduced over time, but mine definitely improves when it's been warmed up for an hour or so.

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Originally Posted by pinnick View Post

airman23, thats interesting. Have you any idea how they measure at full white signal? Which is brighter? Smaller sets tend to be brighter, so maybe the 55" st50 is on par with the 59" d7000. I would be very curious to hear from someone who might have some measured values to present. :-) I have looked for it, but not found anything.

Well, we know the E series is not as bright as the D, so I would expect the new 55ST50 to be similar to the 59D7000 (judging by the cnet review).

A lot of people report peak white from the window pattern used for calibration (30-35 ftL is common for the D series), but this number will generally be much lower than what the TV is actually capable of if only a small region of the sreen is illuminated. I believe another common way to measure peak white luminance is on a 1% full white pattern, like zoyd has included on his test disc here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post21627792

With this pattern, the D series is capable of over 50 ftL. I don't know of anyone who has benchmarked TVs for brightness with the same patterns, but there must be some more info around here. Not sure how reliable these guys are, but they use a peak brightness metric:

http://www.televisioninfo.com/conten...TC-P55VT30.htm

In fact, their ST50 review shows it to be less bright than last year's Samsungs (again, not sure I trust this site):

http://www.televisioninfo.com/conten...-PN51D6500.htm
post #4027 of 4123
The measurements I've seen all have the ST/GT/VT brighter this year than last. If you saw the shootout over the weekend the panny rep explained why - bigger green pixels, better filter throughput and more efficient phosphor. They can now achieve full screen whites ~1.5x greater than 2011 (chadb measured full field at 20 ftL), the samsung D and E series top out around 12 ftL full field.
post #4028 of 4123
Very interesting, thanks zoyd.
post #4029 of 4123
Thanks a lot for digging that information up guys. I bought a st50 55" and I was a little bit concerned when watching hockey that it was a bit dim. But now when I watch material of different kinds in different formats, I have to admit it looks splendid. Shadowdetail and the contrasty image really reminds me of going to the cinema. And now I am less worried of making the wrong decision cause I cant get a 2012 plasmadisplay with better blacklevel and light output for this price. But the image is good, very good!
post #4030 of 4123
Donloading FW 001016 version. Any ideas what I'm getting?


Found it on Samsun's website:

Available May 0,2012
Title 2011 PDP Firmware
2. Applicable Model D6450, D6500, D6900, D7000
3. Carrier or Corporate Customer All Customers
4. Description This firmware makes TV available for 3D explore and new MLB TV. This firmware improves picture quality on SD pictures.


They usually don't have the descriptions up this fast and AVS usually is discussing them sooner.
post #4031 of 4123
That's exactly what you're getting (along with disabling the emulator "hack", of course they wouldn't specify that). If you have no pops or have already done the logic upgrade, no worries.

Larry has installed 1016 and confirmed better SD picture quality.
post #4032 of 4123
Anyone had Samsung fix or replace their logic boards to resolve the brightness/gamma popping issue? Im leery of monkeying around on my own with firmware and logic board electronics via the FBr fix thread on this issue and was wondering if anyone had a more straight forward solution.

Thanx
post #4033 of 4123
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Originally Posted by nikerret View Post

Donloading FW 001016 version. Any ideas what I'm getting?



Found it on Samsun's website:


Available May 0,2012

Title 2011 PDP Firmware

2. Applicable Model D6450, D6500, D6900, D7000

3. Carrier or Corporate Customer All Customers

4. Description This firmware makes TV available for 3D explore and new MLB TV. This firmware improves picture quality on SD pictures.



They usually don't have the descriptions up this fast and AVS usually is discussing them sooner.

I'm joining the ranks of of the PNxxD7000 owners tomorrow when my 64 is delivered (got a pretty good deal @ Amazon). My HLN61 gave up the ghost the other night, and I figured I'd upgrade to something a bit more modern w/ 1080p goodness. I guess the first thing I'll do is make sure I'm on the latest firmware! Looks like I'll probably spending some more time hanging around AVSF again...
post #4034 of 4123
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Originally Posted by lmychajluk View Post

I'm joining the ranks of of the PNxxD7000 owners tomorrow when my 64 is delivered (got a pretty good deal @ Amazon). My HLN61 gave up the ghost the other night, and I figured I'd upgrade to something a bit more modern w/ 1080p goodness. I guess the first thing I'll do is make sure I'm on the latest firmware! Looks like I'll probably spending some more time hanging around AVSF again...

Upgrading the firmware out of the box may not be the best thing to do. Check out the Samsung D-Deries FBr thread first to see if the main FW shipped with the TV will allow the logic board FW fix to be applied. Once you upgrade to the current main firmware (1016), the logic firmware fix for the FBr issue can no longer be applied.

You may not have or be sensitive to the FBr issue, but I would definitely refrain from doing any hasty updates that might limit your options to correct the issue, if in fact you do have it.
Edited by jcalabria - 7/27/12 at 11:34am
post #4035 of 4123
Agreed, I would live with the firmware it comes with for a while to see if you're bothered by the brightness pops (aka, FBr). If you upgrade right away, you will not be able to install the firmware 1014.6 fix (unless you want to try the samygo downgrade method). The fix is a major improvement, but not a 100% fix for some of us at least.
post #4036 of 4123
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post

Upgrading the firmware out of the box may not be the best thing to do. Check out the Samsung D-Deries FBr thread first to see if the main FW shipped with the TV will allow the logic board FW fix to be applied. Once you upgrade to the current main firmware (1016), the logic firmware fix for the FBr issue can no longer be applied.
You may not have or be sensitive to the FBr issue, but I would definitely refrain from doing any hasty updates that might limit your options to correct the issue, if in fact you do have it.

eek.gif.... I'm a pretty tech-savvy person, but using a software program written in a foreign language to update my TV? What ever happened to the good old days when you could just smack the side of the TV and everything would be good?

Thanks for the heads up. I guess I'll hold off on the update for a while, just in case.
post #4037 of 4123
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Originally Posted by lmychajluk View Post

eek.gif.... I'm a pretty tech-savvy person, but using a software program written in a foreign language to update my TV? What ever happened to the good old days when you could just smack the side of the TV and everything would be good?
Thanks for the heads up. I guess I'll hold off on the update for a while, just in case.

If your TV comes with a firmware version below 1014.6, you can just install the 1014.6 update posted in the FBr thread. That's all I ever had to do... just a routine update via the USB stick method. You should only have to resort to the more extreme measures if you have higher firmware version installed. That's why we are suggesting that you check things out first without rushing to update the main firmware. Each upgrade in main FW makes installing the logic update that much more difficult.
post #4038 of 4123
Yeah, there doesn't apear to be any harm in just installing 1014.6 anyway, although there is still the mystery as to why Samsung stopped distributing it.

There is a small chance that 1014.6 will fail to update the logic board, but it worked for my D7000. Just confirm (after installing it) that you have the correct logic version date as found in zoyd's first post. If you do, then the fix was applied and you can go ahead and update the TV normally to the latest firmware (1016.1, which is supposed to offer a noticable improvement in SD picture quality).

BTW, I was afraid of the german service remote emulator as well, but got it running no problem on my set so I could play around with SM movie mode white balace calibration (not something you will need to do, I was a special case). Also of note for some - when you update to 1016, you will no longer be able to use rusamsungtvcommunicator because they did something to disable the remote connection (possibly an attempt to prevent manual installation of the fix?).
post #4039 of 4123
My Samsung 59D7000 just died. I heard a loud pop and the picture went out. The TV does not power up. mad.gif I bought the TV March 2011. I guess it's time for the repair guy.........
post #4040 of 4123
Hey guys a question.

I've had 2 samsung LED's and the default setting of "color" is at 50. Now my question is how come when I moved the color point up on those LED's the color would get saturated way faster than my plasma now?

My plasma's color seems a bit muted compared to the LED's in general, so I jacked up the color to 70.

The colors do not seem as say deep. I could be remembering wrong though, but at the least when I go from 50 to 60 the color saturation isn't as dramatic as on the LED's.

Is this normal or case by case regarding each tv?
post #4041 of 4123
I have a question about my Samsung PN64D7000 plasma television that I hope someone can help me with. I purchased it last year around the holidays so it is still under warranty. The problem is that whenever I am watching something on a HD channel on Comcast Cable, both sides of the image (where the black bars appear while viewing SD channels) about 5 inches wide, full height, is a slightly different color than the center portion of the image. It is more noticeable in brighter scenes. The center of the image appears to be a little more red than the outside strips. Can anyone tell me if it’s something I may have done to the set or is this a Samsung problem that they should fix for me before the warranty expires. Or better yet is there something I can do to correct the problem
Thanks for your suggestions in advance.
post #4042 of 4123
Sounds like it could be burn in from watching a lot of SD stuff in 4:3 aspect. Do you, for example, watch a lot of old TV shows with pilliarboxing? If it is burn, Samsung will not cover this under warranty.
post #4043 of 4123
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Originally Posted by vhart93 View Post

I have a question about my Samsung PN64D7000 plasma television that I hope someone can help me with. I purchased it last year around the holidays so it is still under warranty. The problem is that whenever I am watching something on a HD channel on Comcast Cable, both sides of the image (where the black bars appear while viewing SD channels) about 5 inches wide, full height, is a slightly different color than the center portion of the image. It is more noticeable in brighter scenes. The center of the image appears to be a little more red than the outside strips. Can anyone tell me if it’s something I may have done to the set or is this a Samsung problem that they should fix for me before the warranty expires. Or better yet is there something I can do to correct the problem
Thanks for your suggestions in advance.

Are you watching in Dynamic, Standard, or Movie mode and what is your contrast set to?
post #4044 of 4123
I've been really happy with this display since February when I first got it and applied the FBr fix. It really had an amazing picture and I had no complaints.

However, not only have the brightness pops returned but after watching Game of Thrones on Blu Ray last night I realized the picture seems a lot more washed out than it used to.

Not sure what has caused this but the constant fluctuations and apparent decrease in PQ have made me really regret not waiting a month or two for the Panasonic GT50.
post #4045 of 4123
Hi, I posted this on the D8000 thread and figured would be good to post it here too, would appreciate any input.

Hi folks, hope someone can give me some insight. I'm eyeing some great closeouts on the 64 D7000/D8000, the price difference is neglible so I am considering either one. I'm not concerned with any of the extras on the D8000 including ARC, with exception for maybe LCE. I really want the best PQ. In looking at the differences on the E series while also nearly identical, having spent time demoing them, the E8000 seems to have better video processing, for example motion and noise seem to be handled a bit better. This is what I'm interested in while comparing the D series, also shadow detai and anti-glare. Appreciate any advice.

Thanks
post #4046 of 4123
As for D7000 and D800 what´s been said that the E may have 1 % more accurate colours from the start? I haven´t seen any real difference A-Bing them in stores.

10.14.6 fix is tempting but I assume that is only for the US models? I noticed there was a new firmware for my version PS51D7005 released 7th of august 10.20 but there is no description of what it does at all? Do you believe it´s the SD fix? I run SDTV of a horrendous quality. SD can look good but not this one so I would like to try that out. FBr it´s like 1/10 movies it get annoying. For some reason more often when using my PC as media server. May be a bug on it´s own actually.
post #4047 of 4123
Is it possible to get inky blacks out of this TV? I have mine set to movie mode, and even with the brightness at zero, the black are not inky. I do all of my TV watching in a dark room.
post #4048 of 4123
A typical 64D7000 will have a minimum black level of about 0.027 cd/m^2 (0.0079 ftL.) This is as low as you can get it. There is no way to achieve "inky" blacks with the D7000 (or the D8000) Samsung plasmas.

Larry
post #4049 of 4123
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

A typical 64D7000 will have a minimum black level of about 0.027 cd/m^2 (0.0079 ftL.) This is as low as you can get it. There is no way to achieve "inky" blacks with the D7000 (or the D8000) Samsung plasmas.
Larry

Thanks. Is anyone using Bias Lighting with theirs? Can you recommend an inexpensive bias lighting kit for a wall mounted 64 inch TV?
post #4050 of 4123
Larry, learned so much from you in the past with the calibration, thanks again for all of you and the other expert's hard work. My new problem is this, I am getting a green tint streak on the left, middle and right side of my pn59d7000 (moved speakers and all the magnetic devices away already). I have messed with all the calibration settings (changed to standard, relax, etc and of course the expert's settings from the calibration thread). Is this worth a technician visit?
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