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post #61 of 789
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Originally Posted by serialmike View Post

Once upon a time not so long ago as they started building all these new tracks that were to increase passing, it was said that the old courses were boring.

Magney cours, A1 ring, San Marino, and one specifically I can remember Canada grand prix.

Yesterday besides looking fantastic on Fox(hey speed get on the ball) Canada was a freakin awesome race. I cant help hating these new tracks they are boring with so many turns you cant fall in love with the tracks at all. They are to complex a layout.

Canada if nothing else yesterday proves that we need to get rid of these new complex layouts and get back to old style tracks. Preferrably the old tracks themselves.

I am not a big fan of the new tracks (and it looks like Tilke designed the track in Texas), but Canada was a great race because of the rain. The races in the rain are always fun, because there are a lot of variables that are introduced that are not part of a dry race.
post #62 of 789
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Originally Posted by Ericglo View Post

I am not a big fan of the new tracks (and it looks like Tilke designed the track in Texas), but Canada was a great race because of the rain. The races in the rain are always fun, because there are a lot of variables that are introduced that are not part of a dry race.

Truth.

My only complaint with rainy races is the visuals become obscured by the spray.
I want to see the cars in all their glory.
I want to see long shots of battles on the track and in the pits.

BTW, it is about TIME Bahrain was canceled officially.
There wasn't a chance in hell the teams and/or their insurers would risk going there any time soon.
Too many things could have gone wrong...
post #63 of 789
LOL! How about the variables that Bahrain would introduce? Could you imagine the drivers trying to dodge gunfire?
post #64 of 789
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Originally Posted by Ericglo View Post

LOL! How about the variables that Bahrain would introduce? Could you imagine the drivers trying to dodge gunfire?

Or angry mobs ripping off racecars, tools, equipment?
Or holding The Troll hostage?

The horror...the horror....
post #65 of 789
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Originally Posted by serialmike View Post

Once upon a time not so long ago as they started building all these new tracks that were to increase passing, it was said that the old courses were boring.

Magney cours, A1 ring, San Marino, and one specifically I can remember Canada grand prix.

Yesterday besides looking fantastic on Fox(hey speed get on the ball) Canada was a freakin awesome race. I cant help hating these new tracks they are boring with so many turns you cant fall in love with the tracks at all. They are to complex a layout.

Canada if nothing else yesterday proves that we need to get rid of these new complex layouts and get back to old style tracks. Preferrably the old tracks themselves.


serialmike,

You're aware that Fox,and Speed are one in the same?Remember the same announcers called the race? I guess you missed the intro with the different logos on screen as Fox,FSW,Speed,Sky sports,etc? The Tilke designed tracks are here to stay, although with KERS and DRS on this years cars it has increased the action on those previously boring tracks.
post #66 of 789
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Originally Posted by oryan_dunn View Post

I don't understand how they can absorb a 2hr rain delay, but then have to cut to speed for the last 10min of podium and interview? Just so they can cut into some programming 10min earlier that no one is watching.

Here's something else weird that i've never seen before - right now i'm watching a recording of the Continental Tire Sports Car Challenge that i recorded on Speed while the rain-delayed F1 race was ending on FOX, and at the 15 minute mark (2:15 pm PST) Speed interrupted the sports car race and switched over to F1 coverage where FOX had left off and showed the post-race anthem and podium celebration, the announcers recapped the race, then they showed the post-race drivers interview, then for the viewers that may have missed the last laps of the F1 race they replayed the last lap and finish and ended by showing all the results.

So now i missed 15 minutes of the sports car race . . . .
post #67 of 789
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

Here's something else weird that i've never seen before - right now i'm watching a recording of the Continental Tire Sports Car Challenge that i recorded on Speed while the rain-delayed F1 race was ending on FOX, and at the 15 minute mark (2:15 pm PST) Speed interrupted the sports car race and switched over to F1 coverage where FOX had left off and showed the post-race anthem and podium celebration, the announcers recapped the race, then they showed the post-race drivers interview, then for the viewers that may have missed the last laps of the F1 race they replayed the last lap and finish and ended by showing all the results.

So now i missed 15 minutes of the sports car race . . . .

Do Speed normally show this when the race ends at the scheduled time? If so it may be contractual to pre-empt and show live?
post #68 of 789
After taking a close look at Silversone on my local FOX WQRF, I have to say the HD looks better than NASCAR or IndyCar. The Indy 500 looked awful on ABC, and NASCAR on FOX didn't look as good as F1 on FOX does. The cars would dart about the screen with nary a macoblock to be seen, and the edges of the on-screen graphics didn't fuzz out. Looks great to me, I wish more F1 races were on FOX.
post #69 of 789
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Originally Posted by LithOTA View Post

After taking a close look at Silversone on my local FOX WQRF, I have to say the HD looks better than NASCAR or IndyCar. The Indy 500 looked awful on ABC, and NASCAR on FOX didn't look as good as F1 on FOX does. The cars would dart about the screen with nary a macoblock to be seen, and the edges of the on-screen graphics didn't fuzz out. Looks great to me, I wish more F1 races were on FOX.

I'm gonna go on record to say F1 in SD looked better than NASCAR and/or IndyCar in HD.
post #70 of 789
Watching Silverstone F1 yesterday on BBC One HD it looked absolutely cracking. The wirecam shots were amazing.

Very nice HD source quality, minimal artificial edge-enhancement, just nice clean pictures.
post #71 of 789
Silverstone was a heckuva lot of fun.
There has been some great races this year.
DRS and KERS rules.
post #72 of 789
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Silverstone was a heckuva lot of fun.
There has been some great races this year.
DRS and KERS rules.


The only reason Silverstone was fun was that Alonso won. OTOH, if the season turns into one long Vettel coronation, it will be as boring as all the Schumacher years.
post #73 of 789
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Originally Posted by ti-triodes View Post

The only reason Silverstone was fun was that Alonso won.

I was referring to the action behind Vettel this year.
Although it would have been better with Kubica in the mix.
post #74 of 789
The finish between Hamilton and Massa was as good as it gets.
post #75 of 789
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Originally Posted by joed32 View Post

The finish between Hamilton and Massa was as good as it gets.

Yes, it was.
There has been some great battles so far.
post #76 of 789
I'm glad you guys are enjoying fights for points. I'd rather see different drivers win, not just one guy. It was great to see Alonso win, now he's only 93 points behind Vettel!
post #77 of 789
Watching the Race live since I got home from OT Work at 4:30. xD

Anyway, someone kick Kobashi out... All that yahoo does is crash or crash into people.
post #78 of 789
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Originally Posted by Vipfreak View Post

Watching the Race live since I got home from OT Work at 4:30. xD

Anyway, someone kick Kobashi out... All that yahoo does is crash or crash into people.

Yeah, KK does do a lot that...so does Lewis Hamilton, but he wins.
post #79 of 789
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Originally Posted by Vipfreak View Post

Watching the Race live since I got home from OT Work at 4:30. xD

Anyway, someone kick Kobashi out... All that yahoo does is crash or crash into people.

After watching the race tape, Lewis tweeted that it was his fault and accepted 100% blame.
post #80 of 789
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

After watching the race tape, Lewis tweeted that it was his fault and accepted 100% blame.

Yeah, here's the link:
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/artic...bayashi-crash/
post #81 of 789
I only got to see about the last 40 percent of today's race. By the time I started watching the race Vettel had already left everybody else for dead. Webber's pass to takeover second place was thrilling, though. I also enjoyed seeing Michael Schumacher showing us a little of his old time magic by climbing from last into a fifth place finish. All in all, I thought what I saw was pretty entertaining.
post #82 of 789
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I only got to see about the last 40 percent of today's race. By the time I started watching the race Vettel had already left everybody else for dead. Webber's pass to takeover second place was thrilling, though. I also enjoyed seeing Michael Schumacher showing us a little of his old time magic by climbing from last into a fifth place finish. All in all, I thought what I saw was pretty entertaining.

Agreed, Schumacher made a heck of a drive from dead last.
Maybe the fire still burns????
I am sure a victory, or at least a podium finish would have been his perfect swan song and he could go into retirement with a smile.

Mercedes certainly had egg on its face for not securing his rear wheel during qualifying.
Oh, well....
post #83 of 789
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Agreed, Schumacher made a heck of a drive from dead last.
Maybe the fire still burns????
I am sure a victory, or at least a podium finish would have been his perfect swan song and he could go into retirement with a smile.

Mercedes certainly had egg on its face for not securing his rear wheel during qualifying.
Oh, well....

I've followed F1 since the '90s when Jacques Villeneuve moved there from CART. In all these years, I have never seen a driver as talented or as dominant as M. Schumacher was in his prime. In the rain, there was hardly any reason to run the race because everybody understood ahead of time that Michael would win. Anybody who doesn't understand how crazy brave F1 drivers have to be will learn if they will just watch them race in the rain.
post #84 of 789
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I've followed F1 since the '90s when Jacques Villeneuve moved there from CART. In all these years, I have never seen a driver as talented or as dominant as M. Schumacher was in his prime. In the rain, there was hardly any reason to run the race because everybody understood ahead of time that Michael would win.

Unless Senna was also racing. "Senna" the movie opened this Friday in my local theather, old TV footage looks too low-res and faded, but the overall effect of the selection of clips is magnificent. I watched it holding my breath, even though I knew the ending. Highly recommended.

Yesterday's Belgium race was great, as most race this year. DRS and KERS livened up the action quite a bit. I rooted for Button, I wonder where he would have finished if his team did not fail him in Q2.

BBC feeds are great, although HD Suisse feeds are even better: AVC encoder with bitrates more appropriate to MPEG-2, around 16 Mbit/s.
post #85 of 789
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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

Unless Senna was also racing. "Senna" the movie opened this Friday in my local theather, old TV footage looks too low-res and faded, but the overall effect of the selection of clips is magnificent. I watched it holding my breath, even though I knew the ending. Highly recommended.

Ayrton Senna was killed before I started following F1, so I failed to think of him when I posted about how dominant Schumacher was in the rain. From what I have read, Senna was arguably the all time greatest F1 driver and was particularly dominant in the wet. I certainly would not dispute his greatness.
post #86 of 789
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Ayrton Senna was killed before I started following F1.

Same here.
However, I am eagerly waiting to see the BD of Senna.
post #87 of 789
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I've followed F1 since the '90s when Jacques Villeneuve moved there from CART. In all these years, I have never seen a driver as talented or as dominant as M. Schumacher was in his prime. In the rain, there was hardly any reason to run the race because everybody understood ahead of time that Michael would win. Anybody who doesn't understand how crazy brave F1 drivers have to be will learn if they will just watch them race in the rain.

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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

Unless Senna was also racing. "Senna" the movie opened this Friday in my local theather, old TV footage looks too low-res and faded, but the overall effect of the selection of clips is magnificent. I watched it holding my breath, even though I knew the ending. Highly recommended.

Yesterday's Belgium race was great, as most race this year. DRS and KERS livened up the action quite a bit. I rooted for Button, I wonder where he would have finished if his team did not fail him in Q2.

BBC feeds are great, although HD Suisse feeds are even better: AVC encoder with bitrates more appropriate to MPEG-2, around 16 Mbit/s.

Everyone is going to remember the most recent drivers. I wouldn't dispute Senna as the greatest rain driver of all time, but I never got to see Moss, Clark, or Gilles. I believe I still have the Donington Park race from 93 on tape.
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The new European Grand Prix at Donington Park was next and the Williams were 1-2 in qualifying with Prost on pole ahead of Hill, Schumacher, Senna, Wendlinger and Andretti. At the start, it was damp and Schumacher blocked Senna and both lost time and Wendlinger took third. From there, Ayrton Senna then exhibited a masterful display of car control and bravery, passing four cars (including 3 future world champions) over the course of a single lap to take the lead of the race. Senna quickly passed Schumacher at the third corner. He then went after Wendlinger, passing him through the Craner Curves. Senna went after Hill next and took second at Coppice Corner. Prost was the last target, and Senna overtook his rival at the Melbourne Hairpin. In perhaps the greatest performance in an opening lap in Formula One history, Senna had gone from fifth to first in a single lap. He now led, from Prost, Hill, Barrichello, Schumacher and Lehto.
post #88 of 789
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Same here.
However, I am eagerly waiting to see the BD of Senna.

I want to see Senna, too. It was recently screened at the Sundance Festival. Here is a link to a rather favorable review of the film.
post #89 of 789
Attending the St. Louis opening of Senna on Friday. Formula1Blog's own "Negative Camber" (Todd) will be there to do a talk/Q&A before the show.
post #90 of 789
I WILL be seeing that film.
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