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post #751 of 789
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Originally Posted by Ericglo View Post

F1 better watch out. The new Nascar champ loves Penske's F1 sim.
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/story/_/id/8714616/nascar-no-fenders-no-problem-brad-keselowski-ferrari-f1-simulator

Personally, I would like to see Kyle Busch try his hand at F1. He has the balls, and he has ridiculous car control skills.

I was at The Wynn/Encore this past Sunday-Monday, and was too cheap to throw down the $10 that they charged to go into the showroom. Not that they likely would let anyone near the simulator, but next hime, I spend the $10. :-)

Brian

PS: For you Tiffosi out there, the Ferrari gift shop at The Wynn actually has the super secret 2013 car on display.


looks to be about as fast as this years car... tongue.gif
post #752 of 789
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

looks to be about as fast as this years car... tongue.gif
It looks like it could use more downforce...biggrin.gif
post #753 of 789
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

It looks like it could use more downforce...biggrin.gif
That's not a man's Ferrari anyway. It has a purse attached. tongue.gif
post #754 of 789
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

looks to be about as fast as this years car... tongue.gif
It looks like it could use more downforce...biggrin.gif

lol... betcha newey could make it fast... biggrin.gif
post #755 of 789
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

That's not a man's Ferrari anyway. It has a purse attached. tongue.gif

Two words:

Danica.

Patrick.

Proof that it is not going to be Vettel paired with Alonso in 2014 like all the pundits think is a done deal. :-)

BGL
post #756 of 789
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Originally Posted by BGLeduc View Post

Two words:
Danica.
Patrick.
I heard she got herself unhitched recently....you might have a shot.wink.gif

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Proof that it is not going to be Vettel paired with Alonso in 2014 like all the pundits think is a done deal. :-)
BGL
It is an interesting rumor about Vettel + Alonso @ Ferrari.
Both sides vehemently deny it and I am not sure those 2 could play well together.
NOW, if Newey were to leave RB.....
post #757 of 789
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

That's not a man's Ferrari anyway. It has a purse attached. tongue.gif
It's an Italian Man Purse or maybe just the steering wheel case....
post #758 of 789
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Originally Posted by BGLeduc View Post

Two words:
Danica.
Patrick
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That has to be considered way off topic, because it has absolutely nothing to do with Formula 1 or racing of any kind for that matter. eek.gif
post #759 of 789
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

I heard she got herself unhitched recently....you might have a shot.wink.gif
It is an interesting rumor about Vettel + Alonso @ Ferrari.
Both sides vehemently deny it and I am not sure those 2 could play well together.
NOW, if Newey were to leave RB.....

10-4 on the Newey thing. Any driver that would walk away from a Newey car is taking a huge gamble.

I do note that during the last final Formula 1 Debrief, they reiterated that they though Vettel was going to be in the red car in 2014.

Personally, I don't see it happening unless Alonso is elsewhere. In the modern era of F1, two roosters in the hen house rarely works.

While I am not a member of the Tiffosi, I am a huge Massa fan, and was bummed that they did not have any Massa hats in the Ferrari store. I had to settle for this:

post #760 of 789
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Originally Posted by BGLeduc View Post


Personally, I don't see it happening unless Alonso is elsewhere.
Alonso has admitted recently he has been thinking of life after Ferrari, perhaps as a team owner.

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In the modern era of F1, two roosters in the hen house rarely works.
It seems to be the case....wink.gif

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While I am not a member of the Tiffosi, I am a huge Massa fan, and was bummed that they did not have any Massa hats in the Ferrari store.
Considering his results since the accident, I am surprised Massa has been allowed to stay this long with the team.
If Ferrari had got better results from their #2, they could have conceivably won the Team Championship.

The fact Massa is retained for next year, makes me think Ferrari DOES have someone lined up for 2014.....Hulkenberg, Kubica, or someone else?
post #761 of 789
^^^

as much as i'd like to see KUB in the red car, it doesn't sound like he will ever see the inside of a f1 car again... frown.gif very sad, he had tremendous talent...

hulkenberg would be an interesting choice... kobayashi would be as well... i'd really like to see what he could do in a top tier car...

it also wouldn't completely surprise me to see ferrari shove alonso out that was the only way that they could get vettel... it wouldn't be the first time that's happened...
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Did somebody say DANICA PATRICK??????



I really dont collect cards of racing drivers, but this one I thought was kinda nice.....
post #763 of 789
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Originally Posted by yankeeman View Post

Did somebody say DANICA PATRICK??????

I really dont collect cards of racing drivers, but this one I thought was kinda nice.....
I don't know what she's covering up with her hands. I don't think there is anything there worth hiding. tongue.gif
post #764 of 789
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^
as much as i'd like to see KUB in the red car, it doesn't sound like he will ever see the inside of a f1 car again... frown.gif very sad, he had tremendous talent...
hulkenberg would be an interesting choice... kobayashi would be as well... i'd really like to see what he could do in a top tier car...
it also wouldn't completely surprise me to see ferrari shove alonso out that was the only way that they could get vettel... it wouldn't be the first time that's happened...
Kubica probably won't be back....at least to his old self.
His career will probably become a cautionary tale of What Not To Do as an F1 driver....frown.gif

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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

I don't know what she's covering up with her hands. I don't think there is anything there worth hiding. tongue.gif
That's wrong.....and probably true.biggrin.gif
post #765 of 789
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yea.., frown.gif he quickly became one of my favorite drivers when he joined the scene... immense talent, and oh so likeable... if anything, he was TOO fearless though...

agreed on the "what not to do" part... there's good reason why major professional sports have contract notations that prevent athletes from playing other sports (or doing "dangerous" activities)... the "need to compete" in guys/gals at the very top level sometimes leads them to poor decisions...

re: danica... she should take some of that go-daddy money and spend it on a "chassis upgrade"... tongue.gif

fwiw, i like danica, and think that she probably is a better driver than many give her credit for...
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

fwiw, i like danica, and think that she probably is a better driver than many give her credit for...
Agreed.
One thing is sure...she is a tough cookie.wink.gif
post #767 of 789
Here is a very interesting report on which team was the "fastest" this year:
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-analysis-mclaren-had-fastest-car-of-2012/
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^^^

that passes the "eye test"... mclaren looked like the fastest car pretty much all year...

of course that reminds me of the old line, "he was the fastest car on the track until he hit the wall"... biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

fwiw, i like danica, and think that she probably is a better driver than many give her credit for...

Danica is a distraction to real motorsports. Even as a back-marker the media focuses on her for no other reason than to draw in a contrived viewership to the sport, but at the same time doing a disservice to the real fans who want to follow what's going on at the front of the pack, where the best and most interesting sport is going on.

I am very thankful she didn't like the Honda HPD car in ALMS because she would have been a sad distraction there too.
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I am very thankful she didn't like the Honda HPD car in ALMS because she would have been a sad distraction there too.
Considering the freefall slide of ALMS it probably couldn't have hurt or helped.
I used to love that series....rolleyes.gif
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Considering the freefall slide of ALMS it probably couldn't have hurt or helped.
I used to love that series....rolleyes.gif
ALMS has had it's great moments and the down ones. My wife and I have been to a dozen or so races over the last 5-6 years, including all the Sebring and Petit in that period. We always enjoy attending, but the best times were the great Audi R10 vs. Porsche RS Spyder and the Risi Ferrari vs. Flying Lizard Porsche rivalries of the latter 2000 decade.

The dumbest ones were Corvette racing each other with no other competition in GT1. We laughed at the enthusiasm of the Corvette corral as they rooted for their team to win. rolleyes.gif
Edited by RaceTripper - 12/9/12 at 2:58pm
post #772 of 789
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ALMS has had it's great moments and the down ones. My wife and I have been to a dozen or so races over the last 5-6 years, including all the Sebring and Petit in that period. We always enjoy attending, but the best times were the great Audi R10 vs. Porsche RS Spyder and the Risi Ferrari vs. Flying Lizard Porsche rivalries of the latter 2000 decade.
I have been to several Portland races (when here) over the years and always enjoyed them immensely.

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The dumbest ones were Corvette racing each other with no other completion in GT1. We laughed at the enthusiasm of the Corvette corral as they rooted for their team to win. rolleyes.gif
Everyone likes a parade, right?biggrin.gif

On a serious note, where ALMS went wrong was going with too many classes for the fans to keep track of on track, not separating the Prototype category into diesel and gasoline cars, starting P2 and GT2 categories, and selling the broadcast rights to ESPN.

There should have been an only a Prototype class, a GT class, and a "experimental" class for cars like the Deltawing or Hybrids.
post #773 of 789
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

I have been to several Portland races (when here) over the years and always enjoyed them immensely.
Everyone likes a parade, right?biggrin.gif
On a serious note, where ALMS went wrong was going with too many classes for the fans to keep track of on track, not separating the Prototype category into diesel and gasoline cars, starting P2 and GT2 categories, and selling the broadcast rights to ESPN.
There should have been an only a Prototype class, a GT class, and a "experimental" class for cars like the Deltawing or Hybrids.

I actually liked the idea of a P1 class and a Prototype (LMPC) spec class, plus a GT class and a spec GT (GTC) class. I didn't mind having P1 and P2 when there were enough cars to fill both classes.

The dominance of diesel (Audi Peugeot) over petrol was stupid. Audi kept threatening to leave if IMSA balanced the classes, but ended up leaving anyway. I loved the Audi drivers, but the hell with Dr. Ulrich. He and ALSM/IMSA management hurt the series over it. Ditto for Corvette in GT1. They drove everyone else away in the same way.
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

I actually liked the idea of a P1 class and a Prototype (LMPC) spec class, plus a GT class and a spec GT (GTC) class. I didn't mind having P1 and P2 when there were enough cars to fill both classes.
There wasn't enough cars for both P1 and P2, because the prototype class was split.
ALMS racing could only really handle one P-class.

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The dominance of diesel (Audi Peugeot) over petrol was stupid. Audi kept threatening to leave if IMSA balanced the classes, but ended up leaving anyway. I loved the Audi drivers, but the hell with Dr. Ulrich. He and ALSM/IMSA management hurt the series over it.
Agreed.
The ALMS became the AudiLMS and the series management is to blame.
And diesel should never have been allowed in the first place.

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Ditto for Corvette in GT1. They drove everyone else away in the same way.
Rather than leave, at least Corvette re-tooled and entered the new GT class.
post #775 of 789
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Rather than leave, at least Corvette re-tooled and entered the new GT class.
Sure they did, after they drove their competitors away and became the laughing stock of every spectator not wearing a Jake shirt.
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post #777 of 789
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I think I have just discovered where MS is going:
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-mercedes-formula-one-boss-norbert-haug-to-leave-company/

Could be. Schumacher might be a good fit as Mercedes Head of Motorsport with Lauda as Chairman of the Board of Mercedes F1 team. It will be interesting to see who does replace Norbert Haug. The guy has been at Mercedes for an ice age, especially by F1 standards.

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Sure they did, after they[Corvette] drove their competitors away and became the laughing stock of every spectator not wearing a Jake shirt.

Watch your tongue! I had a couple of Corvettes back in the day but have never worn a Jake shirt in my life.smile.gif
post #778 of 789
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

I think I have just discovered where MS is going:
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-mercedes-formula-one-boss-norbert-haug-to-leave-company/

hmmm... michael and niki, that would be an interesting combination...

does michael really want to:

a) put in the type of work it would take to do the job? is he even cut out for it?
b) deal with the inevitable meltdown by hamilton over the next 2 years as he is repeatedly trounced?
post #779 of 789
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I had a couple of Corvettes back in the day
Off and on, I have thought about buying one (the current ZO6 is an excellent performer).
However, the new Viper has the attention of my car-lust (maybe in a year, when the prices become sane).
Until then, I am having plenty of fun with my Black Raven CTS-V Coupe.

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hmmm... michael and niki, that would be an interesting combination...
does michael really want to:
a) put in the type of work it would take to do the job? is he even cut out for it?
b) deal with the inevitable meltdown by hamilton over the next 2 years as he is repeatedly trounced?
I have to agree it doesn't seem likely MS has the stomach for such an undertaking, but he does love F1....so who knows?
post #780 of 789
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yea, no doubt he does love f1... and imo, it'd be a good move for mercedes if he would take that spot... no secret i'm a big fan of his, and the power of his personality might be just what they need there...

that's gonna be a HARD job though... between the car being 4th fastest, at best,(although who knows what next year will bring) and that i expect hamilton to be patient with that for a total of say, 2 grand prix, there's gonna be some ugly moments coming on that team... for example, lewis's "power of personality" is going to completely overwhelm nico next year... it's been relatively "easy" for nico the last couple years, all he had to do was stay ahead of the old guy in qualifying, and he was immune to criticism...

but two things are going to change greatly for him next year... as much as i love schumi, lewis is WAY faster than he is at this point in time, and he is likely to make nico look very bad... and lewis completely dominates nico when it comes to "aura of f1 driver", if you get my point... lewis may crush nico emotionally, in addition of crushing him on the track...

what i'd REALLY like to see michael do is buy out bernie... smile.gif THAT is the job he needs, and by relieving us of bernie, he'd be making a contribution to the sport that would really put a cherry on his career... i have faith in michael that he wouldn't make decisions based solely on how big of a check someone writes him...
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