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post #1 of 954
3/27/11 at 7:32am
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Well I've had the 40" version of this set for a week now and so far it's been great. The built in WiFi works really well, I've been streaming Vudu and Netflix with no problems via WiFi on a 802.11g network. I guess FIOS really helps things along here with 20Mbps/20Mbps service. Vudu HDX looks fantastic and Netflix HD is quite nice from a distance. This is a 3D set but does not come with any glasses so I haven't tried any 3D yet. My previous Sharp 32" 1080P LCD was made in Japan and I was impressed with the quality of the set and with the mounting hardware and stand. The 835 is built in Mexico and while fit and finish are still very good, something has been lost along the way in my opinion. The set has a semi-matte screen since it seems more reflective than my old LC-32D65U set. The set is very thin and does not generate a lot of heat even in torch mode.

The stand that the 40" ships with allows the set to swing rotate left or right which can be useful, I don't really use it.

I've always like the out of box settings that my old set came with and was hoping the same would be the case with the 835U but I was tweaking it here and there for about a week. I think I've finally arrived at some settings that I like and allows the set to be sharp, pun intended.

I started off in Movie mode which has the backlight set to +16 as the default which is the max value - I don't recall changing that and it's fine to me at that value. OPC which varies the brightness based on the ambient light in the room is turned off. Contrast is set to +33, Brightness -5, Color 0, Tint 0, Sharpness +2. On to the Advanced section now.

C.M.S. Hue, Saturation, and Value are left at the factory defaults of "0". The Color Gamut Range is set to Expanded which is again a default but I like it a bit on the hot side of things. Color Temp is set to Low. I set Motion Enhancement to AquoMotion 240. Quad Pixel Plus is turned on. I turned Active Contrast to Off, the Gamma Adjustment is set to 0 and Film Mode is set to AdvancedHigh. Most of these are the default settings as I recall. And finally Digital Noise Reduction is Off as well as Monochrome. Since OPC is turned off the Range of OPC setting is not relevant. The final setting in the Power Control Menu is turn Power Savings to OFF.

The resulting picture is very pleasing and colorful and very enjoyable. Flesh tones are a bit warm but not distracting and the colors really pop.

The motion enhancement is subtle without being too distracting in my opinion. There's still some blur evident if you look for it but the picture is so pleasing that it should not bother you.

I would post pictures but I don't have my trusty Canon and tripod available at this time so perhaps down the road.

Overall I'm very pleased with the set.

New settings as 28MAY2011

AV Mode - Movie
OPC - OFF as usual
Backlight - +16 this is the default
Contrast - +35 up a few clicks from the default; +33 for a little less blooming in the whites;
Brightness - 0
Color -5; -8 for those that prefer colors to be less hot;
Tint -5
Sharpness +1
Advanced
CMS Hue R0,Y-20,G+16,C0,B0,M+27
CMS Saturation R+10,Y-9,G0,C-5,B-10,M0
CMS Value R0,Y+15,G0,C+6,B+10,M0
Color Gamut Range - Expanded
Color Temp - Low, Low, Low...
Motion Enhancement 120Hz - Note using 240Hz results in a dimmer picture and reduced contrast so I'd love to use it but it significantly degrades the picture in my opinion so no go for 240Hz in any of the modes btw.
Quad Pixel Plus - On
Active Contrast - Off
Gamma Adjustment 0
Film Mode Off
Digital Noise Reduction Off
Monochrome - Off as always
Range of OPC - N/A
Under Power Control Set Power Savings to OFF

Standard Mode Settings - Use newer settings below for better greens
OPC OFF
BACKLIGHT +16
Contrast +35
Brightness -8
Color -7
Tint -5
Sharpness +1
CMS HUE - R0,Y0,G0,C-5,B-19,M1
CMS SATURATION - r0,y3,g10,c-10,b-25,m-10
CMS VALUE - R-6,Y5,G30,C20,B25,M0
Color Temp - Low
Motion Enhancement - 120 High
Quad Pixel Plus - On
Active Contrast - Off
Gamma Adjustment 0
Film Mode Off
Digital Noise Reduction Off
Monochrome off
Range of OPC N/A
Power Savings - Off

New Standard Mode Settings as of 06 JAN 2012:
Mode Standard
OPC OFF
Backlight +16
Contrast +33
Brightness -9
Color -8
Tint -5
Sharpness +1
Advanced
CMS Hue R+3,Y0,G-30,C-5,B-20,M+1
CMS Saturation R0,Y+13,G+30,C-10,B-25,M-10
CMS Value R0,Y+5,G0,C+15,B+20,M0
Color Temp Low
10 Point Setting Off
Color Temp Gain Lo / Hi all set to 0
Motion Enhancement 120 High
Quad Pixel Plus On
Active Contrast Off
Gamma Adjustment 0
Film Mode Off
Digital Noise Reduction Off
Monochrome Off
Range of OPC N/A

Another contributor has posted his settings elsewhere in the thread. I don't think he would mind if I posted a link to his post here. Sentrex's settings have gotten excellent feedback from the users that have tried them. Look for them here...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post20873704

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post #2 of 954
3/27/11 at 10:02am
I just purchased the Sharp 60" 835u display and i cant seem to find reviews on it yet. Is it too new??? I wont be able to see my new tv til april 21 due to amazon having none in stock, but i wanted to get in on the 24 months interest free financing.

Also will this display i bought be a huge upgrade over my Toshiba 65hm167 rear projection 60 hz tv
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post #3 of 954
3/27/11 at 10:44am
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I'm sure you will be pleasantly surprised with the picture quality of your new set.
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post #4 of 954
3/28/11 at 2:28am
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Originally Posted by Wermey View Post

I just purchased the Sharp 60" 835u display and i cant seem to find reviews on it yet. Is it too new??? I wont be able to see my new tv til april 21 due to amazon having none in stock, but i wanted to get in on the 24 months interest free financing.

Also will this display i bought be a huge upgrade over my Toshiba 65hm167 rear projection 60 hz tv

this set will definitely be an upgrade over your Toshiba.

I saw this set this past weekend at frys and overall it has very good PQ. the only thing that I found disconcerting was with their directv hd feed of espn. only the samsung d8000 properly displayed a graphic that was running down the right hand side of the screen. it was a black background with grey particles in it. none of the 2011 sets displayed this properly, aside from the d8000. with that said, none were calibrated. so im sure with some tweaking it would look proper.

I had the salesman hook up a bluray player (panasonic I believe) and it was a sampler disk that he showed. even without calibration the PQ was amazing. there are other sets I want to see before I make any decisions, but this set is definitely near the top of my list. you should be very happy with it.
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post #5 of 954
3/28/11 at 5:46am
how does this thing compare to the 920? besides the fact that it obviously has 3d
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post #6 of 954
3/28/11 at 1:23pm
Thread Starter 
New settings as 28MAY2011

AV Mode - Movie
OPC - OFF as usual
Backlight - +16 this is the default
Contrast - +35 up a few clicks from the default; +33 for a better representation of white;
Brightness - 0
Color -5; -8 for colors that are less hot;
Tint -5
Sharpness +1
Advanced
CMS Hue R0,Y-20,G+16,C0,B0,M+27
CMS Saturation R+10,Y-9,G0,C-5,B-10,M0
CMS Value R0,Y+15,G0,C+6,B+10,M0
Color Gamut Range - Expanded
Color Temp - Low, Low, Low...
Motion Enhancement 120Hz - Note using 240Hz results in a dimmer picture and reduced contrast so I'd love to use it but it significantly degrades the picture in my opinion so no go for 240Hz in any of the modes btw.
Quad Pixel Plus - On
Active Contrast - Off
Gamma Adjustment 0
Film Mode Off
Digital Noise Reduction Off
Monochrome - Off as always
Range of OPC - N/A
Under Power Control Set Power Savings to OFF

Standard Mode Settings:
OPC OFF
BACKLIGHT +16
Contrast +35
Brightness -8
Color -7
Tint -5
Sharpness +1
CMS HUE - R0,Y0,G0,C-5,B-19,M1
CMS SATURATION - r0,y3,g10,c-10,b-25,m-10
CMS VALUE - R-6,Y5,G30,C20,B25,M0
Color Temp - Low
Motion Enhancement - 120 High
Quad Pixel Plus - On
Active Contrast - Off
Gamma Adjustment 0
Film Mode Off
Digital Noise Reduction Off
Monochrome off
Range of OPC N/A
Power Savings - Off
I think I'm finally happy with the Sharp 835 with the settings above.
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post #7 of 954
3/29/11 at 9:00am
Hi IMWS,

Some questions for you:
- Do you confirm that there's no glass in front of the LCD panel (contrary to the 925), direct matte screen?
- Do you know when the 3D glasses will be available? Do you already have the ref? Are those 3D glasses the same model as for the 925?

Thanks!
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post #8 of 954
3/29/11 at 10:04am
I have the le52le835 , the 3D from Comcast is great, much better then 3D on my Mistubishi 72 inch 837.
The only place I can find the 3D glasses is from SHARP and they are very exspensive,
$175 including tax and shpiing.
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post #9 of 954
3/29/11 at 4:08pm
It'll be interesting to see how this compares to the Samsung D6400.
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post #10 of 954
4/1/11 at 6:20am
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There's no glass on the screen, it's a matte screen that reflects a bit more than my older Sharp LCD. I don't have the 3D glasses.

My biggest issue with the set is trying to find the right configuration settings. Settings that look good on one source material does not look good on another. I'll have to get a new Blu-Ray calibration disc to help. I find myself tweaking this tv more than watching which is now starting to get under my skin.
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post #11 of 954
4/1/11 at 9:40am
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Originally Posted by imws View Post

There's no glass on the screen, it's a matte screen that reflects a bit more than my older Sharp LCD. I don't have the 3D glasses.

My biggest issue with the set is trying to find the right configuration settings. Settings that look good on one source material does not look good on another. I'll have to get a new Blu-Ray calibration disc to help. I find myself tweaking this tv more than watching which is now starting to get under my skin.

Thanks for the above details !

Regarding 3D, no need to wait. The glasses of the 925 are compatible with the 835 (ref AN-3DG10). You can easily find them. Also note that Sharp is about to launch new rechargeable 3D glasses (ref AN-3DG20).

See more:
http://www.sharp.com.my/aquos/3Dglass.html
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post #12 of 954
4/2/11 at 6:12am
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Thanks for the tip, I'll have to pick up a pair.

I recently discovered that setting film mode to Standard is a decent option and it eliminates the soap opera look. Aquomotion is still on 240. I don't think this is 24P times 10 - it's more like 60P x 4, I wish Sharp would provide some details on these modes.
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post #13 of 954
4/2/11 at 6:12pm
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http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/sharp...0100628755.htm
This site talks about the challenges in calibrating the quattron LCD. In the comments there are some suggested settings which I'm trying out and with a bit of tweaking on my end the results are quite good.
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post #14 of 954
4/4/11 at 12:25pm
Could you post some pictures of your 835? Would be great
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post #15 of 954
4/4/11 at 3:22pm
I am in the market for a 60" LCD-LED tv. Does any one know how the Sharp 835 series compares with the Sony NX810 or Sharp 925 series? Specwise they all look very similar. I am not a big fan of glossy screen, would much rather prefer a matte screen. Looked at NX810 and 835 at best buy. Liked both equally. Any input from actual owners will be much appreciated.
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post #16 of 954
4/4/11 at 4:50pm
I seen the 835 in BB the other day when i picked up my 60" 831. Dosent the 835 have the gloss screen? I use to be a fan of the gloss screen. However since i have gotten my 831 60" sharp LED. I now am in love with the matte screen! Such a beautiful TV. IF you are not interested in 3D. I would take a look at the 831. It have built in Wifi if that matters to you.
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post #17 of 954
4/4/11 at 7:19pm
I think I am sold on 3D hype for now. I think 831 lacks 3D, but I do luv the matte screen and ofcourse about $600-$700 cheaper. Decisions decisions...

Also I adding Sony KDL-60EX720 to the mix, though it not available for sale yet.
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post #18 of 954
4/4/11 at 7:59pm
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Originally Posted by thamizhan View Post

I think I am sold on 3D hype for now. I think 831 lacks 3D, but I do luv the matte screen and ofcourse about $600-$700 cheaper. Decisions decisions...

Also I adding Sony KDL-60EX720 to the mix, though it not available for sale yet.

I agree with you on the 3D. I had a set & returned it, just didn't like it as much as i thought. Was cool with PS3, but annoying after a while. I'm telling you im watching the 60" sharp 831 as we speak. It is a absolutely amazing set. I love the slim bezel around it. It does not have that thick bottom like the 810 & 820s had. The matte screen is amazing as well. My BB has the 831 on sale for i think like around $250 off. But everyones tastes are different. As far as paying $800 more for the Sony, i dunno man. How much better could it be than the Sharp. They are both 120hz sets. Does the Sony even have Wifi built in? Not that really matters to most people but for the Sony price id think it damn well should lol. For me the wifi is a win being i don't have to run another wire through the wall. I also thought i also read that the Sony model you talked of had on the lighter side black levels.
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post #19 of 954
4/4/11 at 8:07pm
Here are 2 quick pics i snapped. Sorry about the darkness. I was trying to capture the TV not the picture lol. I was too lazy to get up lol. These are just taken with my iphone. But as you can see there on the screen on the right is a bright floor lamp in the backround like 8 feet from the TV. It barley effects the screen. And obviously the spot in the middle is the flash from my phone. At the bottom is brushed titanium or whatever it is on the the bezel. The top and side bezel size is only 1" thick. And the bottom is about 1 1/2" thick.



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post #20 of 954
4/4/11 at 8:27pm
Here are two more of the matte screen. Just 2 quick ones with my iphone. One of a view from my bed. And another side shot. Yes i have a 60" on the wall in my bedroom lol. I guess i got a little carried away. But my viewing distance is 12 feet so. I already hinted to my GF that sharp has a 70" for around 3 grand. I told her its such a great deal. Lol

PS: GRRRRRR, these photos just made me realize that i have to get that one speaker wire in the wall still! I hate, hate wires lol. I have already made enough holes however i have to fix before we move. I am in a apartment currently. O well, i'm handy enough hahaha. The blue light is just a fan i have in the stand for the PS3, even though i moved it. I can turn it off though it just plugs into my Direct TV DVR USB. But the light does not seem to bother me.




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post #21 of 954
4/5/11 at 10:12am
Vcolassi, did you happen to watch sport on this set ? do you notice motion blur, espicially on sports that do lots of panning like hockey and basketball ?
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post #22 of 954
4/5/11 at 1:15pm
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Originally Posted by Guibs View Post

Vcolassi, did you happen to watch sport on this set ? do you notice motion blur, espicially on sports that do lots of panning like hockey and basketball ?

I watched some brief hockey last night as well as a brief part of a NBA game. I did not notice any. I will check when i get home tonight for you. I am still in the calibrating phase lol. I watch alot of sports so this will be key for me on this set. My Phillie's play tonight, so i will be looking for when the ball is thrown for a double play. See if the TV will keep up with the fast moving ball & camera. But i will check for you tonight are report back.
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post #23 of 954
4/5/11 at 7:06pm
Wow... Those pics look great. Looks like you might convince me out of 240Hz and 3D hype. I guess I might might out for few more weeks for the Sony's 60" EX720 to come out. I really like the fact that Sharp 831 series is not very glossy. I hear rumors that Sony's 240Hz for their EX720 series is not real 240. If thats the case there is no real reason to pony up the additional dough on Sony. I could settle for Sharp 831 series for a lot less.

Have you tried any gaming on this TV yet? How does gaming performance work on 831 series vs 835 series?
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post #24 of 954
4/5/11 at 7:18pm
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Originally Posted by thamizhan View Post

Wow... Those pics look great. Looks like you might convince me out of 240Hz and 3D hype. I guess I might might out for few more weeks for the Sony's 60" EX720 to come out. I really like the fact that Sharp 831 series is not very glossy. I hear rumors that Sony's 240Hz for their EX720 series is not real 240. If thats the case there is no real reason to pony up the additional dough on Sony. I could settle for Sharp 831 series for a lot less.

Have you tried any gaming on this TV yet? How does gaming performance work on 831 series vs 835 series?

Take in mind that those pics are off of just Direct TV taken with just my iphone. & i have not even calibrated my set in depth yet! I played with the settings just a bit. I got a great deal at my local BB on the 831. I am very happy so far. I have done just a bit of gaming on it so far. But so far its great. I have tried Fifa 11, New Mortal Kombat demo, Socom 4 Demo, & MLB the show 11. So far so good. But i will get more in depth with it. My eyes are just more amazed with the crisp picture on this 60" LED. I will report back on PS3 gaming. They had the EX-720 at my local BB for $800 more!! And it is only a 120hz set. Im telling you the Sharp is a beautiful set! I just cant see paying $800 more, dosen't make sense to me. Isn't the Sony EX720 edge lit too? Now if the Sony was a 65" or something, than i could see. Also on the Sharp it has built in wifi. Being i was never a fan of the "internet" apps on TV's. I find myself more interested with using it now with apps like Vudu, & Netfilix. Now i don't have to turn my PS3 on lol. I'm going green! Lol.

PS: I just checked, the Sony EX-720 does not have built in Wifi. Im sorry, for the price they are charging vs the Sharp it should. You should not have to pay a extra 80 bucks for the dongle. Or run a Cat5 lol. Take it from me, i was never a fan on the Internet crap on TV's. Built the built in Wifi is cool. Granted i will not surf the web. But i will take advantage of not having to turn my PS3 on when i wanna use Vudu or Netflix. Maybe once in a while check the weather lol.
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post #25 of 954
4/6/11 at 12:53am
Just to report back real quick on the 120hz & sports on the 831. I watched about 15 mins of 2 basketball games that were on tonight. I seen no noticeable blur. Also watched the Phillies & Mets game with no blur. Granted i did not have my eyes "glued" to the screen. But im sure i would have caught something.
I do have the TV set on its "Motion Enhancement" " 120hz High" setting. There is a low, high & off setting for that. I have the Film mode option off.
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post #26 of 954
4/7/11 at 7:46pm
Thanks for reporting back Vcolassi. Congratulations on your great buy. I checked my local best buy for this model. Their price was comparable to Amazon. However, with tax and shipping, best buy price was higher than amazon's delivered cost. If you don't mind, can you pm me what you paid for your set?

More I think about it, more I feel that I may never use 3D. I tried 3D in my local best buy for about 15-20 mins to see if it is something that I might be interested, it kind of started hurting my eyes after a while.
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post #27 of 954
4/9/11 at 11:05am
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Been away for a week on business, got back last night and have been watching the 835 this morning - I hope you guys are okay with my constant changing of the settings but I finally settled on a couple of things today. I'll keep Active Contrast off for good and Film Mode will also get turned off completely. With these two turned off I get a picture that is very pleasing and does not cause me to constantly tweak. The other settings are essentially the most recent ones that I've posted. I'll update my initial posts with the new settings.
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post #28 of 954
4/9/11 at 12:54pm
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Try these settings in Dynamic Mode

OPC - OFF
Backlight +16
Contrast +30
Brightness -5
Color -10
Tint -6
Sharpness +1

Advanced Page
CMS - Hue
R+2,Y+9,G0,C0,B0,M0
CMS - Saturation
R0,Y+8,G+25,C0,B0,M0
CMS - Value
R0,Y0,G0,C0,B0,M0
Color Temp Low - Gain Values 0
Motion Enhancement 240Hz
Quad Pixel On
Active Contrast Off
Gamma Adjustment 0
Film Mode Off
Digital Noise Reduction OFF
Monochrome Off
OPC Max +16, Min -16, Note: because OPC is turned off these values do not affect the picture
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post #29 of 954
4/10/11 at 3:35pm
how is input lag when playing on ps3 with this tv?
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post #30 of 954
4/15/11 at 7:18am
Do any of you happen to have a PC connected? I've very interested in the 40" and want to know how well it will work as a monitor. I currently have the Panasonic 37DT30 but am considering a return due to chroma subsampling issues.

Attached some test patterns in the zip that can be used to look for such issue when displayed at 100% size.

BTW - as a heads up Sharp posted a new firmware for this series of TVs.

Quote:
This Firmware Update adds streaming media apps Alphaline, Blockbuster and Napster. It also improves performance of 3D, Vudu, DLNA and USB movie playback features.

This update includes all previous fixes and improvements.

Version: 204U1104061

Date: 4/15/2011
Just go to the page and click software:
http://www.sharpusa.com/ForHome/Home...C40LE835U.aspx
http://www.sharpusa.com/ForHome/Home...C46LE835U.aspx
http://www.sharpusa.com/ForHome/Home...C52LE835U.aspx
http://www.sharpusa.com/ForHome/Home...C60LE835U.aspx
Yes, I know it is the same final file but some folks might feel more comfortable clicking their exact model number.

 

Test images.zip 64.0380859375k . file
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