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8/7/11 at 12:56pm
I've had my 780 (used to have a 570, but that's now in my garage/home theatre projection room) for about 2 or 3 weeks and have no complaints whatsoever with the player itself. The quality of Netflix is quite good. I don't, however, use the wireless as I heard it didn't work well. It works fine on the 570. I wired my home with CAT6 when I remodeled and, because I only pulled one cable to the family room, use an inexpense DLINK switch to connect to my Mitsu 73738 and the DVD. I also have FIOS and the speed is excellent (about 30M/12M). No problems with streaming anything WITH ONE EXCEPTION (and this is why I'm writing). From what I can ascertain, Sony is behaving like some two bit, fly-by-night operation when it comes to their servers (this is according to Sony Tech Support though they use different language than I do). Evidently, they don't provide redundant servers when they take them offline (like they did last night around 6pm PST without ANY notification to their customers!!!). I know it was a Sony issue because none of the applications on either of the Sony DVD players worked, but my Roku box worked just fine. I found some of this out by googling the "error 300" problem and "network down" problem so their wasn't any problem with my network. After about an hour and a half, everything started working again (a shade more time than it took me to figure out what was going on and get through to technical support).
I work in the central computing group at maybe the largest university in California (used to be known for good basketball teams when coach was around). We build in redundancy at virtually every layer of our network and that includes critical use servers (DHCP, Secure ID, VoIP, etc.). If anyone took any part of the network down at 6pm without sending any notification to our clients, they would be fired and then, possibly, hung (okay, I exaggerated the second part for the sake of illustrating my point).
While this isn't really a 780 issue per se, this definitely affects those of us who bought this DVD player. I suggest that people contact customer relations at Sony and kick up a fuss about this. I tried to find a good contact for customer relations on the Sony esupport website, but kept getting referred back to the troubleshooting group who told me they couldn't do anything and that I needed to contact customer relations...the customer relations number listed IS the tech support group....errrrggggg.....
I am with you. I bought the Sony BDP-S570 to go with my Sony LX900 TV in 2010. Love both! But I also bought the Sony BDP-S780 and paired this with my LX900 TV in 2011 and am glad I did. S780 = 16 Bit Video Processor, Skype and some excellent streaming video apps like Vudo.
I've had a good sales transaction from The Nerds in the recent past...
Lately my S570 is behaving erratically so I'm strongly considering sending it back for repair. I posted the concern I had with the Iron Man 2 disc earlier in the Official S570 thread. Basicaly, there's a flicker that occurs when Tony Stark is about to exit the door after speaking with Ivan Vanko, a.k.a., Whiplash (approximately 40 min, 10 seconds into movie). It flickers once, you lose picture for 1 second, the picture returns, but picture format is widened bit more, looking distorted, then you lose picture for 1 more second, then picture returns to normal. Problem is still there, even after upgrading to the latest firmware. Here's my other issues; Sometimes I will play a random blu ray and the audio will suddenly cut off for about 2 seconds at the beginning of the movie for no reason. It never did this before. Last night, I tried to play Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the Dawn Treader and the player was not able to read the disc. It just froze for a long time. Pressing the stop and eject button did not do any good. I had to unplug the player. After waiting about 3 minutes or so, I plugged the player back in and the movie played fine.
I'm thinking of upgrading to the S780, however, are any of you guys experiencing issues such as mine? Anyone have problems playing the Iron Man 2 disc?
It will come down to personal preference and the rest of the system.
I don't need wireless connectivity, internal memory or a (partially) backlit remote. In my system the 780 gives a noticeable improvement for DVD upscaling while Blu-Ray picture is the same - other than the benefits of SBM of course. Sound quality is the same - no surprise there for me.
So the 780 is definitely the better than the 770 in my system.
im going to have to jump on this bandwagon also.
cortiz, your posts were well received by me as i was weighing in on what to do. I really enjoyed your posts and they played a big roll in my decision. however since im a tech junkie i ended up getting the 780. i still have the 770 though...
there is also mention of certain features that are missing..
--from dual antennas to one: i can see Sony looking at the overall demographic which most people using a wired connection. its easier to setup for the average consumer. also most peoples' routers are in the same room as their AV setup (most) so if they were to use the wireless mode, the router would be in the same room so bandwidth limited to one receive antenna in the 780 may not make a difference. I know for me the router is about 70+ feet away and through a wall and after watching 2 vudu HDX flicks thus far ive not had one major issue with wireless.
--the lack of internal memory. i dont see this is a biggie either. one can purchase thumb sticks at gas stations just about and a 1 gb stick is super cheap now.
i think sony, in deciding how to cut costs but also deliver more performance in areas that matter (PQ, AQ, etc) to their newer model decided these were two areas they could "comprimise" on.
as far as the 770s "more substantial" weight of the unit.. well... im not holding the player whilst im using it so thats not much of a concern. electronics are getting smarter and smaller so i expect the technology to increase whilst weight of components decrease.
i know i know.. most of the members here are old school and prefer the heft of electronics to symbolize quality.. kind of like a Rolex oyster perpetual watch on ones arm... i totally understand that, however you cant deny that the 780, even in its reduced weight and chassis design, still rocks AND adds features (skype, SMB) over the previous models... added more features and reduced the weight...
just my observations and i am not meaning to sound disrespectful or mean. just want to say a different side of the coin.