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post #391 of 680
1/4/12 at 1:08pm
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Yes the Runco VX-11d has a DHD-4 processor.

http://www.runco.com/products/projectors/dlp/videoxtreme-portfolio/VideoXtreme_VX-11d




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Looks very nice!
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post #392 of 680
1/4/12 at 1:10pm
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Looks very nice!

Thanks and now I am waiting to get that install date.
Thinking maybe next week.

Terry
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post #393 of 680
1/4/12 at 2:21pm
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Originally Posted by Cal1981 View Post

I recently moved up to an S780. It has a ton of video options available while a disc is in and playing but Sony really doesn't provide much, or any guidelines for their settings. I'd be interested to know more about:
Cinema 1 and 2
Super Resolution
Texture Remaster
Clear Black
Clear White
Contrast Remaster
and the indivdual video settings for color, contrast, etc.

Can anyone shed some light on these?

The Sony Operating Manual lists "some" of this info (on page 18. You can download the pdf here: www.docs.sony.com/release/BDPS780.pdf )

Video Settings • Picture Quality Mode:
Selects the picture settings.
“Auto,” “Custom1,” and
“Custom2” are available
only for HDMI
connections.
• Texture Remaster: Adjusts
the sharpness and detail of
the edges.
• Super Resolution:
Improves the resolution.
• Smoothing: Reduces onscreen
banding by
smoothing gradations on
flat areas.
• Contrast Remaster:
Automatically arranges the
black and white levels so
that the screen is not too
dark and the image is
modulated.
• Clear Black: Adjusts the
display of the dark
elements of the image. All
shading is not suppressed;
it allows beautifully
reproduced black tones.


Here's a bit more from Crutchfield:
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_158BDPS...=T#details-tab

  • Picture Quality Mode: You can select from 3 preset pictures settings (Standard, Brighter, Theater) for different lighting environment.
  • FNR: Reduces the random noise appearing in the picture.
  • BNR: Reduces the mosaic-like block noise in the picture.
  • MNR: Reduces minor noise around the picture outlines (mosquito noise)
  • I/P Noise Reduction: Improves the picture quality of Internet entertainment.
Cinema Conversion Mode: The Sony Blu-ray player offers two Cinema Conversion Modes - Auto and Video.
  • Auto: The player automatically detects whether the material is video-based or film-based, and switches to the appropriate conversion method.
  • Video: The conversion method suited for video-based material will always be selected regardless of the content.
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post #394 of 680
1/4/12 at 2:45pm
That's good info, but IMO all those effects just make the picture worse. Super Resolution, for example, just makes the picture artificially sharp, noisy and unnatural looking. Smoothing and other noise reduction just removes detail, making everything soft and giving everyone clay-face. Contrast remaster makes everything look cloudy, and clear black just crushes blacks, despite what they say. The only useful settings are the Cinema ones that control pulldown.
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post #395 of 680
1/4/12 at 5:30pm
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

The Sony Operating Manual lists "some" of this info (on page 18. You can download the pdf here: www.docs.sony.com/release/BDPS780.pdf )

Video Settings • Picture Quality Mode:
Selects the picture settings.
“Auto,” “Custom1,” and
“Custom2” are available
only for HDMI
connections.
• Texture Remaster: Adjusts
the sharpness and detail of
the edges.
• Super Resolution:
Improves the resolution.
• Smoothing: Reduces onscreen
banding by
smoothing gradations on
flat areas.
• Contrast Remaster:
Automatically arranges the
black and white levels so
that the screen is not too
dark and the image is
modulated.
• Clear Black: Adjusts the
display of the dark
elements of the image. All
shading is not suppressed;
it allows beautifully
reproduced black tones.


Here's a bit more from Crutchfield:
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_158BDPS...=T#details-tab

  • Picture Quality Mode: You can select from 3 preset pictures settings (Standard, Brighter, Theater) for different lighting environment.
  • FNR: Reduces the random noise appearing in the picture.
  • BNR: Reduces the mosaic-like block noise in the picture.
  • MNR: Reduces minor noise around the picture outlines (mosquito noise)
  • I/P Noise Reduction: Improves the picture quality of Internet entertainment.
Cinema Conversion Mode: The Sony Blu-ray player offers two Cinema Conversion Modes - Auto and Video.
  • Auto: The player automatically detects whether the material is video-based or film-based, and switches to the appropriate conversion method.
  • Video: The conversion method suited for video-based material will always be selected regardless of the content.

This is gonna sound really stupid, but where do you see those settings? I don't remember seeing a lot of those in the settings menu...
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post #396 of 680
1/4/12 at 6:28pm
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

Hello. I never heard of this option until now--but seems like a great alternative for those that need it. I checked the Vudu app on the S780 and I don't see an option to download instead of stream. I've looked around the menu and don't see it. Please tell me which menu this is listed under and I'll check again.

Hmmm...the rental-download option seems to have gone away . If that's the case, it sure wasn't available for long, as they only got it going around the end of October/beginning of November.

I have a plea for explanation up in the VUDU PS3 Support Forum (http://forum.vudu.com/showthread.php?t=57171&page=2, post #17 ). I hadn't used VUDU in over two months, since Netflix has been sustaining my current kick. Your reply prompted me to go in and have a look-see; I went through the motions of renting a half-dozen different movies, and none of them gave the option for download.
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post #397 of 680
1/5/12 at 3:12am
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Originally Posted by rightintel View Post

This is gonna sound really stupid, but where do you see those settings? I don't remember seeing a lot of those in the settings menu...

Hello. While viewing a video if you hit the "options" button then you'll see a another list of menu options to include Video Options. Under Video Options You'll find these additional settings listed under Picture Quality Mode. You can select a few presets Standard, Bright Room, Theater Room or Auto and/or drill-down further into custom 1 or 2.
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post #398 of 680
1/5/12 at 4:11am
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Originally Posted by Mister B.M. View Post

Hmmm...the rental-download option seems to have gone away . If that's the case, it sure wasn't available for long, as they only got it going around the end of October/beginning of November.

I have a plea for explanation up in the VUDU PS3 Support Forum (http://forum.vudu.com/showthread.php?t=57171&page=2, post #17 ). I hadn't used VUDU in over two months, since Netflix has been sustaining my current kick. Your reply prompted me to go in and have a look-see; I went through the motions of renting a half-dozen different movies, and none of them gave the option for download.

After I saw your post I did read a couple of articles about Vudu's new "download" service as opposed to their current "streaming only" approach...

However, since I own a few streaming devices that offer the Vudu app, I've noticed that some Vudu app functions are a bit different depending upon the device. E.g. I can stream Vudu 3D video on the PS3 but not on S780 ( the Vudu 3D menu is present on the S780 but there is nothing to stream--so maybe sometime in the future). Likewise, maybe this new download feature will come in a future firmware update for the S780 too.
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post #399 of 680
1/5/12 at 4:27am
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

That's good info, but IMO all those effects just make the picture worse. Super Resolution, for example, just makes the picture artificially sharp, noisy and unnatural looking. Smoothing and other noise reduction just removes detail, making everything soft and giving everyone clay-face. Contrast remaster makes everything look cloudy, and clear black just crushes blacks, despite what they say. The only useful settings are the Cinema ones that control pulldown.

You may be right. I personally didn't pay any attention to the different PQ levels of Bluray movies until I first started trying out these additional Picture Quality settings on the S780. Initially, I thought these settings were just more 'bells & whistles" to play with, but then I did find some practical uses particularly when applying to some of the remastered bluray movies e.g., I was able to use these settings to smooth out "some" of the grain-effect ( nothing drastic) that resulted from remastering the original Star Wars movie to bluray. So perhaps these settings might be more effective when applied to say up-scaled DVDs as opposed to the newer Bluray movies with the latest bluray technology.
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post #400 of 680
1/5/12 at 8:08am
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

You may be right. I personally didn't pay any attention to the different PQ levels of Bluray movies until I first started trying out these additional Picture Quality settings on the S780. Initially, I thought these settings were just more 'bells & whistles" to play with, but then I did find some practical uses particularly when applying to some of the remastered bluray movies e.g., I was able to use these settings to smooth out "some" of the grain-effect ( nothing drastic) that resulted from remastering the original Star Wars movie to bluray. So perhaps these settings might be more effective when applied to say up-scaled DVDs as opposed to the newer Bluray movies with the latest bluray technology.

After getting a better look at the Options menu, I realized that the two custom settings are just that. They let you modify a bunch of video settings beyond the three presets and saves them so that you can use them as needed or as you wish. Your example of tweaking for the Star Wars Bluray's would be a prime example of this. I may never use the Customs but it's always good tp have options at your disposal.
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post #401 of 680
1/5/12 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by Cal1981 View Post

After getting a better look at the Options menu, I realized that the two custom settings are just that. They let you modify a bunch of video settings beyond the three presets and saves them so that you can use them as needed or as you wish. Your example of tweaking for the Star Wars Bluray's would be a prime example of this. I may never use the Customs but it's always good tp have options at your disposal.

Cal1981: Well I guess its safe to say that we have plenty of options to adjust PQ on the S780 ! Thanks for asking the question about the settings--prompted me to actually read-up on all these settings I have been playing with
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post #402 of 680
1/5/12 at 5:07pm
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

Hello. While viewing a video if you hit the "options" button then you'll see a another list of menu options to include Video Options. Under Video Options You'll find these additional settings listed under Picture Quality Mode. You can select a few presets Standard, Bright Room, Theater Room or Auto and/or drill-down further into custom 1 or 2.

Oh, I see. In MID-MOVIE, hit the options button. Thanx LB, I was wondering why I couldn't find 'em.
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post #403 of 680
1/8/12 at 3:34pm
Did any one order this player bundle from Sony style on line recently? If 3D Harry potter , one and two were inside bluray player box or separate ?
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post #404 of 680
1/8/12 at 6:09pm
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

Did any one order this player bundle from Sony style on line recently? If 3D Harry potter , one and two were inside bluray player box or separate ?

I just bought the S780 from Best Buy a couple days ago. The two 3D Harry Potter blu-rays were inside the box. I was pleasantly surprised as I thought this bundle was exclusive to Sony style online.
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post #405 of 680
1/8/12 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by PhoenixCoyote View Post


I just bought the S780 from Best Buy a couple days ago. The two 3D Harry Potter blu-rays were inside the box. I was pleasantly surprised as I thought this bundle was exclusive to Sony style online.

Wow! Great. How much did you pay?
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post #406 of 680
1/9/12 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by PhoenixCoyote View Post

I just bought the S780 from Best Buy a couple days ago. The two 3D Harry Potter blu-rays were inside the box. I was pleasantly surprised as I thought this bundle was exclusive to Sony style online.

Post #374....the HP BD's are included
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post #407 of 680
1/17/12 at 1:43pm
AOL-HD. Sony just added the AOL HD video app today January 17, 2011 to the S780. Check your app menu for new app download.
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post #408 of 680
1/17/12 at 2:05pm
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

AOL-HD. Sony just added the AOL HD video app today January 17, 2011 to the S780. Check your app menu for new app download.

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AOL HD

What does this stand for for us that don't know?
Like me.

Terry
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post #409 of 680
1/17/12 at 2:38pm
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What does this stand for for us that don't know?
Like me.

Terry

Remember America On-Line from the early 1980's ? This is one their new streaming services. Nice little HD app check it out on your player.

Also you can read more about it here:
http://corp.aol.com/2011/07/27/aol-launches-aol-hd/
http://hd.aol.com/
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post #410 of 680
1/17/12 at 9:04pm
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

Remember America On-Line from the early 1980's ? This is one their new streaming services. Nice little HD app check it out on your player.

Also you can read more about it here:
http://corp.aol.com/2011/07/27/aol-launches-aol-hd/
http://hd.aol.com/

Now I see

LOL,
Terry
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post #411 of 680
1/19/12 at 1:51am
I have a question, I was wondering if it is possible or available yet to get 5.1 surround sound on Netflix through BDP-S780 yet? I know you can on PS3 but sadly I can not seem to find any where on Blu-ray do change it to 5.1. Also what is up with connection drop on Youtube through BDP-S780? starts 6.8 MBPS than boom drop to 1.9 MBPS. My wireless connection a full five bar but once in a while it drop to four bars but as for Youtube it is not good for some reason.
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post #412 of 680
1/19/12 at 5:12am
I hope so, that's been a bummer from the start. If it doesn't, it will require a firmware update to get it. I will try it this evening along with Youtube.
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post #413 of 680
1/19/12 at 5:37am
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Originally Posted by tsmklg068426 View Post

I have a question, I was wondering if it is possible or available yet to get 5.1 surround sound on Netflix through BDP-S780 yet? I know you can on PS3 but sadly I can not seem to find any where on Blu-ray do change it to 5.1. Also what is up with connection drop on Youtube through BDP-S780? starts 6.8 MBPS than boom drop to 1.9 MBPS. My wireless connection a full five bar but once in a while it drop to four bars but as for Youtube it is not good for some reason.

Hello. Couple of comments to your questions:

Netflix is slowly starting to offer Dolby Digital 5.1 with their streaming catalog, so you really have to search to find a Movie with DD/5.1--I know of one that you can test with called "Limitless." Give it a try. Also you can also test with any Vudu HDX free two-minute previews that all provide Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 and in some cases 7.1.

YouTube. You are correct in your case its probably not an issue with your wireless or your S780. YouTube is a "portal app" on the S780--that means that YouTube similar to Skype controls the bandwidth amount ( not the S780). You'll see lower speeds ( very low) for SD YouTube videos and a bit higher speeds when you select an HD YouTube video . As long as the YouTube SD/HD video plays correctly even at very low speeds this is normal.
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post #414 of 680
1/19/12 at 8:25am
You get Netflix on your 780?? I am in the UK and its not on mine...I'm guessing you are in the US?
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post #415 of 680
1/19/12 at 8:45am
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

Hello. Couple of comments to your questions:

Netflix is slowly starting to offer Dolby Digital 5.1 with their streaming catalog, so you really have to search to find a Movie with DD/5.1--I know of one that you can test with called "Limitless." Give it a try. Also you can also test with any Vudu HDX free two-minute previews that all provide Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 and in some cases 7.1.

YouTube. You are correct in your case its probably not an issue with your wireless or your S780. YouTube is a "portal app" on the S780--that means that YouTube similar to Skype controls the bandwidth amount ( not the S780). You'll see lower speeds ( very low) for SD YouTube videos and a bit higher speeds when you select an HD YouTube video . As long as the YouTube SD/HD video plays correctly even at very low speeds this is normal.


Is Dolby 5.1 from Netflix available on the S780 yet?
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post #416 of 680
1/19/12 at 11:27am
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Is Dolby 5.1 from Netflix available on the S780 yet?


All I get is LPCM 2.0 on mine so I believe not yet but hope so soon.
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post #417 of 680
1/19/12 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by StumpyBloke View Post

You get Netflix on your 780?? I am in the UK and its not on mine...I'm guessing you are in the US?

From what I read, Netflix already launched in the UK but only on a few streaming devices so far. I think PS3 and Apple TV are it for now.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/8/269...ing-live-price
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post #418 of 680
1/19/12 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by tsmklg068426 View Post

All I get is LPCM 2.0 on mine so I believe not yet but hope so soon.

@Math Wizard and tsmklg068426

Start streaming a free HDX two minute movie preview with the Vudu app on your S780 and you will see and hear Dolby Digital +(plus) will light-up on your Receiver all streamed via your S780
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post #419 of 680
1/19/12 at 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post


From what I read, Netflix already launched in the UK but only on a few streaming devices so far. I think PS3 and Apple TV are it for now.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/8/269...ing-live-price

Yup it has, you are right! It's available on my ps3, xbox, Samsung tv, android tablet and iPhone but not the 780. Oh well guess I'll wait!
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post #420 of 680
1/19/12 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by StumpyBloke View Post

Yup it has, you are right! It's available on my ps3, xbox, Samsung tv, android tablet and iPhone but not the 780. Oh well guess I'll wait!

I am sure it just a matter of time before it rolls out on your S780 too. As you know Sony controls which apps we get or not and when we get them on their devices... Unlike as you mention Samsung/Panasonic devices which allow you to choose the apps you want to install ( from their library of choices of course).
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