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post #1 of 458
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I've waited a long time but perhaps my favorite film of all time appears to be on it's way, a 6K restoration bodes well.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=6097

Art
post #2 of 458
wow. this looks like a must-have set regardless of the price!
post #3 of 458
Really good news to read on a Monday
post #4 of 458
It's nice, but I'll wait for an edition (maybe UK) without the "big box of stuff".
post #5 of 458
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Originally Posted by RobertR View Post

It's nice, but I'll wait for an edition (maybe UK) without the "big box of stuff".

Perhaps like The Ten Commandments they'll have the "movie only" simple box.
post #6 of 458
This is one of my all time favorite movies and I have been waiting for the Blu-ray to come along. I am really looking forward to this one.
post #7 of 458
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Originally Posted by Dan P. View Post

Perhaps like The Ten Commandments they'll have the "movie only" simple box.

But unlike "The ten commandments", they'll probably include the same disc content in the regular release (like they did on with Oz and GwtW). Paramount is just using dirty tricks.
post #8 of 458
"Next fall..." meaning 2012? Hopefully we get Lawrence next year too (since it's the 50th anniversary anyway). I really wish the movie was split across two BD50s, but I suppose Warner proved themselves capable of a quality encode on Gone With the Wind
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Originally Posted by Art Sonneborn View Post

I've waited a long time but perhaps my favorite film of all time appears to be on it's way, a 6K restoration bodes well.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=6097
Art

WOOT! Let's just hope they don't wreck it. A lot more Ten Commandments and a lot less Spartacus, please!
post #10 of 458
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Originally Posted by luigionlsd View Post

"Next fall..." meaning 2012?

The current post on Digital Bits says this fall. It's supposedly a 50th Anniversary release, although that was last year. I can see releases being announced 1 year out (see also: Star Wars), but not almost two years. So, I'm guessing 2011.
post #11 of 458
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Originally Posted by jaaguir View Post

But unlike "The ten commandments", they'll probably include the same disc content in the regular release (like they did on with Oz and GwtW). Paramount is just using dirty tricks.


Agreed, that makes me mad. I don't want the 10C box set of trinkets but I would want all of the disc content, not just some. I can see Warner having maybe an exclusive single disc like they did with those two titles along with the box, and a little later having all the disc content available in the smaller package, except in the UK where everything will be available in a small package from the start. This is just speculation basing on Warner's previous patterns.
post #12 of 458
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Originally Posted by JBlacklow View Post

The current post on Digital Bits says this fall. It's supposedly a 50th Anniversary release, although that was last year. I can see releases being announced 1 year out (see also: Star Wars), but not almost two years. So, I'm guessing 2011.

I'm betting (hoping also) you're correct.

Art
post #13 of 458
What a great experience this will be for those of you who have a dedicated home theater!

Use your light dimmers during the overture...your large curtains slowly opening at the main title appears...And, all your resources that will recreate the experience of a first night premiere...(and, have an audience!)
post #14 of 458
Finally!
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thats a good looking set
post #16 of 458
So is Ben Hur comming out this fall 2011 or next fall 2012? What's up.
post #17 of 458
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Hoping this fall.

Art
post #18 of 458
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Originally Posted by Ed Weinman View Post

What a great experience this will be for those of you who have a dedicated home theater!

Use your light dimmers during the overture...your large curtains slowly opening at the main title appears...And, all your resources that will recreate the experience of a first night premiere...(and, have an audience!)

Alas, nothing will ever quite replicate seeing this film in 70mm in a 60's roadshow house SPECIFICALLY BUILT for Ben-hur. People actually called it the "Ben-hur theatre" until The Sound of Music ran there several years later.

People who did not experience this sort of presentation really don't know what they are missing.

No, Blu-ray (with all its quality) doesn't make it.


Bob
post #19 of 458
I generally do not purchase these extreme editions but with this film, I may make an exception. Can't wait until this fall.
post #20 of 458
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Originally Posted by rlsmith View Post

Alas, nothing will ever quite replicate seeing this film in 70mm in a 60's roadshow house SPECIFICALLY BUILT for Ben-hur. People actually called it the "Ben-hur theatre" until The Sound of Music ran there several years later.

People who did not experience this sort of presentation really don't know what they are missing.

No, Blu-ray (with all its quality) doesn't make it.


Bob

...true...I saw it when it first opened in LA at the Egyptian Theater...I never saw such a large screen!...however, it is still better than seeing it on a 10" black and white set...
post #21 of 458
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Originally Posted by rlsmith View Post

Alas, nothing will ever quite replicate seeing this film in 70mm in a 60's roadshow house SPECIFICALLY BUILT for Ben-hur. People actually called it the "Ben-hur theatre" until The Sound of Music ran there several years later.

People who did not experience this sort of presentation really don't know what they are missing.

No, Blu-ray (with all its quality) doesn't make it.


Bob

I wish I could have been part of that but even if my age had made it possible I'd never have seen it.

I'd actually have liked to have experienced a Saturn V liftoff too.



Art
post #22 of 458
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Originally Posted by RobertR View Post

It's nice, but I'll wait for an edition (maybe UK) without the "big box of stuff".

I'm in the same boat, but I'm definitely looking forward to seeing this in HD>
post #23 of 458
The Blu-ray release of Ben-Hur should be wonderful, but the film deserves at least a limited theatrical run in 70mm or 4k.

However wonder the Blu-ray might be, it will still be akin to a black & white Xerox of an illuminated manuscript, or possibly a paperback edition of a beautifully produced tome, when compared to the real thing.

Nothing against the concept of Blu-ray, which is wonderful, but it is not a replacement for the real thing, and the real thing can be made available. No need for time travel.

RAH
post #24 of 458
Especially if it can be shown in the full AR. I was too young to be aware of such things when I first saw it in London at the Empire in 1960. All the 70mm reissues since then have been 2.20:1
post #25 of 458
2.55 would work beautifully.

RAH
post #26 of 458
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Originally Posted by Robert Harris View Post

2.55 would work beautifully.

RAH

According to IMDB the ratio is 2.76:1 (wider than Cinerama.)

And 2.50:1 is "recommended." According to Widescreen Museum "The chariot race as seen in the full 2.76:1 70mm aspect ratio. Ben-Hur's spectacular photography was matched with its extremely vivid 6 channel stereophonic sound. For practical reasons, the film was shown with an aspect ratio of about 2.5:1 in most roadshow houses."


Still, the Blu-ray will probably be 2.76:1.
post #27 of 458
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Originally Posted by Robert Harris View Post

The Blu-ray release of Ben-Hur should be wonderful, but the film deserves at least a limited theatrical run in 70mm or 4k.

However wonder the Blu-ray might be, it will still be akin to a black & white Xerox of an illuminated manuscript, or possibly a paperback edition of a beautifully produced tome, when compared to the real thing.

Nothing against the concept of Blu-ray, which is wonderful, but it is not a replacement for the real thing, and the real thing can be made available. No need for time travel.

RAH

Yeah, I would go see it again
post #28 of 458
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Originally Posted by rlsmith View Post

Alas, nothing will ever quite replicate seeing this film in 70mm in a 60's roadshow house SPECIFICALLY BUILT for Ben-hur. People actually called it the "Ben-hur theatre" until The Sound of Music ran there several years later.

People who did not experience this sort of presentation really don't know what they are missing.

No, Blu-ray (with all its quality) doesn't make it.


Bob

AMEN. Same with Grand prix, on the three screen theaters
post #29 of 458
Have to admit Ive never seen this film will definitely give it a go when its released.
post #30 of 458
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Have to admit Ive never seen this film will definitely give it a go when its released.

I have brief comments on the film and DVD thumbnails here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post20329947

-Bill
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