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Added Vandersteen 1C's as wides
I tried to piece together a plan view of your room. It may not be correct. What I am wondering about are the speaker locations. Based on my possibly incorrect diagram, the subtended angle to the MLP (front row center) for the screen is 45 deg, and 26 degrees between the L/R speakers. If so, the speaker angle strikes me as excessively narrow for movies or music, which would normally be 45 and 60 degrees, respectively. Is that why you added the wide speakers? Are they driven by DSX, Neo:X, or some other means?

post #152 of 178
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Thats pretty impressive... The diagram is close but not 100%

I would say about 30 degrees. But you are very close.

But I am also at far field listening positions. The sound stage sound nice and wide even with the 30 degree angle.

You may have not seen this pic. This was my final speaker Layout.

Before:


But its not why I added wides. (Well it could be I suppose.) I wanted to fill any sound gaps between front and rear channels.

To setup a home theater this big you would need an absolutely massive room to get the correct speaker placement.

Or a much smaller screen...

its a comprimise I had to make. I can move them out to about 40 degrees.

Maybe I will do that.
Edited by SOWK - 11/11/12 at 8:08am
post #153 of 178
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That is what I do...
But it is a lot easier if you have a projector with motorized lens.
I tend to line up 3 or 4 movies I want to watch in the 1.78:1 ratio and for the next couple of day or weeks watch thoese and then go back to 2.35:1. It's set to 2.35:1 95% of the time.

Do you mask or just not care? If so what do use use?
post #154 of 178
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Had a pic from page 2

They were built from Seymour AV to match the screen.
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post #156 of 178
how does the masking attach to the screen? I'm thinking of going 16:9 and then attaching horizontal masking for 2.35:1 stuff because I watch so much tv/sports, plus a lot of 3D is in 16:9 and I want it all as big as possible. the horizontal masks will have to be bigger, but they should work the same way?
post #157 of 178
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Seymour uses strong magnets that are built into the frame.
post #158 of 178
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But I am also at far field listening positions.
Does this mean your MLP is in the rear row? I am sure that with the current setup, even with the wides, the envelopment in the back row is much better than in the front row. But from a picture envelopment perspective, I would recommend the front row for your MLP.
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The sound stage sound nice and wide even with the 30 degree angle. You may have not seen this pic. This was my final speaker Layout.

I can move them out to about 40 degrees.
Maybe I will do that.
I missed that final picture. Luckily, your L/R speakers can be moved with no reconstruction, so experimenting is a low impact, high yield endeavor. wink.gif
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But its not why I added wides. (Well it could be I suppose.) I wanted to fill any sound gaps between front and rear channels.
What signals are you feeding them?
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To setup a home theater this big you would need an absolutely massive room to get the correct speaker placement.
Or a much smaller screen...
its a compromise I had to make.
Well, yes, with two rows of seats they cannot all be in the optimal sweet spot. But that does not matter. And the screen size is not a problem.

Not to mess with you too much, I would opt to use the extra pair or speakers as surrounds rather than wides (ignoring the fact they are not the same model). The idea is to get a pair of surrounds lateral (and even a little bit forward) of the front seats. This would improve immersion significantly. Add that to the 40-deg fronts and you'd not need the wides. Note in my fantasy I also moved the existing 4 surrounds as a result.

post #159 of 178
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Does this mean your MLP is in the rear row? I am sure that with the current setup, even with the wides, the envelopment in the back row is much better than in the front row. But from a picture envelopment perspective, I would recommend the front row for your MLP.
I missed that final picture. Luckily, your L/R speakers can be moved with no reconstruction, so experimenting is a low impact, high yield endeavor. wink.gif
What signals are you feeding them?
Well, yes, with two rows of seats they cannot all be in the optimal sweet spot. But that does not matter. And the screen size is not a problem.
Not to mess with you too much, I would opt to use the extra pair or speakers as surrounds rather than wides (ignoring the fact they are not the same model). The idea is to get a pair of surrounds lateral (and even a little bit forward) of the front seats. This would improve immersion significantly. Add that to the 40-deg fronts and you'd not need the wides. Note in my fantasy I also moved the existing 4 surrounds as a result.

MLP is in the front row center.

I use DSX processing for the wides.

I run the surrounds 1.5 db and rears 2.0 db hot to make front row envelopement better when no one is in the second row.
post #160 of 178
GDay SWOK

My name is Ian and i am from Australia.

Came across your build thread while looking at completed home theatres to get some ideas for my own build and i must say it grabbed my attention instantly.
It is great to see a build that is dedicated to achieve a spectacular picture with nothing to distract the eye from the main event - the movie.
Love the look you have achieved, nice & neat clean defining lines with a touch of class.

I especially want all the attention to the picture quality and sound quality for once the lights are turned off and all are seated thats when the WOW factor really counts.

Great job and hope its everything you wanted it to be.

Looking forward to your thoughts on the video and audio outcomes once you have calibrated it all.

Not sure if it was ever mentioned but what height is your ceiling?

cheers
Ian
post #161 of 178
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Ceilings are 8'
post #162 of 178
How high is your riser? I just looked through the thread (I'm sure it's in here somewhere) but couldn't see it. Cheers! By the way I'm basing my entire ht build off yours as it's the best on this whole forum. No bs just clean awesome mancave with massive screen.
post #163 of 178
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Taking the advice of Roger...

post #164 of 178
buddy whats your projector model and screen model
post #165 of 178
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Would love a Sony VPL VW1000. Not in the pocket book. I have on order a JVC RS4810 though.
*updates to my theater*
Added Vandersteen 1C's as wides
Added BenQ W6000 as a temp projector
Final video posted to YouTube.
Link in signature.
ETA on JVC RS4810?

Happy New Year!

Mike
post #166 of 178
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JVC RS4810

150" wide 2.35:1 Seymour AV Center Stage XD
post #167 of 178
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JVC RS4810
150" wide 2.35:1 Seymour AV Center Stage XD
Nice.
Busy for a while, but would love to see it some day.

Congrats again on a beautiful HT and strong work on the build thread.

Mike
post #168 of 178
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Taking the advice of Roger...


So, how does it sound now? Did you give them a little toe-in?
post #169 of 178
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It sounds really good, and I prefer it this way.

The front speakers have a slight toe-in.
post #170 of 178
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Edited by SOWK - 2/3/13 at 8:43am
post #171 of 178
How tall are your ceilings?
post #172 of 178
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Close to 8 feet.
post #173 of 178
How big is your screen and whole room.. any lighting issues with the white crown molding?
post #174 of 178

Very impressive--quick question: I'll be getting a screen similar in size and I"ll also be using the Sony 600ES.  How is the brightness of the Sony on your screen in 2D?  How about 3D?  Both are quite important to me.

post #175 of 178
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The Sony is very good from a 2D stand point and brightness. I have not tried 3D yet.

Are you getting an AT screen? or Solid Surface?
post #176 of 178
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The Sony is very good from a 2D stand point and brightness. I have not tried 3D yet.

Are you getting an AT screen? or Solid Surface?

AT for sure.

post #177 of 178
Did you get your Vandersteen's speakers swapped out? What did you end up going with?
post #178 of 178
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Kept the Vandersteens.

Eventually, if I remodel my 2nd floor into one master bedroom, I may move the Quatro's up there and buy some 2CE'S for the front left and front right.
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