Official Panasonic GT30 Series Discussion Thread [No Price Talk] - Page 2

D-Nice measured .0065fL on his GT30. Sorry guys.

I can care less about 3D. I can buy a used 9G 60" Elite Kuro or wait out and see how well the blacks hold up in the new Panny's.

Wow....thats....not what panasonic said.

See, thats why I don't get excited about MLL measurements before D-Nice does it. Everyone else has differing results and D-Nice has consistant results.
The GT25 that Ed measured was at .003, and now Ed re-measured and its at .006. What is going on here?!

I am only paying attention to D-Nice's calibrations from now on.

Please note that measurement was with about 6 hours on the panel and there were visable sparkles in the background that I expect to disappear one the display has more hours on it.

The only thing I'm disappointed with on the GT30 so far is the gamma (1.9). Unfortunately, that will not change as the panel ages

I am going to go with the 50 as this is for the bedroom, if the GT30 proves to be the better choice.


Thank you Randy for clearing the air for me. I do read a lot of your posts on here and thanks for all the effort you give.


I have the 51 and it is not like my VT But I will say it is a very nice TV. That is strange that the size makes a difference...well because 55-51=4 and 63-59=4...oh well.

Yes, this is the type of TV shopper I am.

hello,
I can't seem to decide if I should go for the panasonic gt30/VT30 or a pioneer krp 500. I have a few questions, that maybe you guys can answer.
Does the KRP still have an advantage over the GT 30 like picture quality?
Is the GT30s power consumption significantly better that the krp500?

Which TV should I buy?

And you were able to get 2.2 on ST30 in Custom mode right?

Overall, the krp 500 would be the best flatpanel display ever made.

There is more to life than a good black level. That gamma curve posted on the other forum is really disappointing. Oh well...


Larry

can someone explain what 1.9 gama is? How does this affect pq?

So kuro krp 500 is still best neither gt30 and vt30 can match it?

I hope i wont regent my decision.

I agree.

Pre-calibration was 1.1.

How many buyers will even realize 1.9 by gettin their sets professionally calibrated?

"D-Nice measured .0065fL on his GT30."

The other guy got what d-nice implys he might get after break-in. However this could be attributable to the on-off brightness issue some have mentioned with the ST's. Why else would the other tester first test a low number then high while D measures high and expects lower. j

Gamma measures how quickly the TV rises out of black and this set rises too quickly. Target is about 2.2.

What that means is that the image will appear sort of washed out. That's why even though the black measurements are important if the set rises out of black to fast then the image won't meet expectations.

That's the way I understand it.

I can't recall if it was mentioned in the review but I do wonder how many hours were on their set. Maybe 24, 30 at most?

The big question for me is, has the issue regarding rising black levels in Panasonic Plasma displays been resolved with the S/G/VT30's? I guess the only way to know for sure is to wait and see. Given Panasonic's stance on the issue ("It's a feature not a bug") I personally have a hard time trusting them.

Huh? ST GT and VT all go up to 65.

The bigger sets just haven't been released yet but they do come in 60" & 65".

My mistake. I was using Panasonic's web site as a source (obviously I haven't been shopping yet). Kind of pathetic when you can't trust the manufacturer's web site! (It doesn't even list VT at all.)

LOL

You won't see them in the stores either.

BTW, it looks like flashing blacks is a Samsung problem this year and Panasonic has a sort of flashing whites (luminanece).

If she gives you hell for buying the TV, give her some good sexin' and she might change her mind?

Hold on. On my ST30 I can choose between 4 or 5 different gammas, including 2.2. The GT30 doesn't offer a choice of what gamma you want to use? The only gamma option is 1.9? That doesn't sound right.

How about be a grown man and tell your wife that you will spend your money how you want?

I mean, come on.

Once you start actually measuring TVs, you find that manufacturer's claims are more like goals while looking through rose colored glasses, and their settings labels are more like Christmas wish lists...

Gamma is the exponent the TV uses to determine how much light should be coming off the screen for a given input signal. A gamma that is too low will result in an overly bright, washed out image that is lacking contrast. To see this for yourself go into your video card properties and raise the gamma slider.

D-Nice said he was able to get gamma hovering around 2.2 when he changed the setting in Custom mode to 2.4- so it's attainable, just not in THX.

Custom mode calibrated well on the ST30, so it may be the same with the GT30.

Still doesn't mean it's acceptable, though.