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Originally Posted by saltysteven View Post

There are break in settings and then after settings for viewing.
I broke in, then watch tv with d nice and game with vivid

I used his specific slide settings when I run them, but for regular viewing.
post #3002 of 4129
I'm looking for a low profile solution for mounting my 55GT31. I'm considering the Sanus VLL10 which provides .67" of clearance between the wall and the TV. In searching this forum it seems that many have gone with tilt mounts that provide about 1.5" of clearance. Does anyone know the minimum distance that is necessary for mounting? I looks to me like the balun on the power cable is the only obstacle to clear. Do you just coil the excess power cable up behind the set? Anyone else done a low profile mount on this model?? Thanks.
post #3003 of 4129
I ordered (and returned) about every mount available. This is the sturdiest and the one with the lowest profile that I found:

Sanus VLT15-B1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ms_ohs_product

It lets you do flat or 10 degree tilt very easy. I'm really happy with it.

Note: The TV itself gets wider at the bottom (~3-4") where I assume all the electronics are. The cable and powercord aren't an issue compared to this part that juts out.

Have fun!
post #3004 of 4129
Thank you robotman! That looks like a good option for me as well.
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I'd also interested to know if other cameras are supported since the official Panasonic one is NLA. Of interest is that a few weeks ago panasonic.com was bundling a free Logitech webcam for Skype with purchase of several different Viera models.

Also, another silly question. I purchased OEM 3d glasses directly from panasonic.com and the literature with them states that they should only be charged (via USB cable) from the TV and no other device. With my TV wall-mounted, the USB ports are hard to access and the glasses look stupid either dangling from it or perched up top. I'd like to charge them from a computer's USB port if possible but don't want to damage them due to their ridiculous price. Anyone have experience here they'd care to share?

Thanks!
post #3006 of 4129
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Originally Posted by robotman View Post

I ordered (and returned) about every mount available. This is the sturdiest and the one with the lowest profile that I found:

Sanus VLT15-B1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ms_ohs_product

It lets you do flat or 10 degree tilt very easy. I'm really happy with it.

Note: The TV itself gets wider at the bottom (~3-4") where I assume all the electronics are. The cable and powercord aren't an issue compared to this part that juts out.

Have fun!

Why did you return the mounts? Fitment issues? I am looking for a mount for my 60gt30. It doesn't have to be low profile. I don't mind if it sticks off the wall a bit. I just want to make sure the bolt pattern is compatible and it comes with the correct length screws that go into the back of the set.
post #3007 of 4129
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Originally Posted by Norske View Post

Why did you return the mounts? Fitment issues? I am looking for a mount for my 60gt30. It doesn't have to be low profile. I don't mind if it sticks off the wall a bit. I just want to make sure the bolt pattern is compatible and it comes with the correct length screws that go into the back of the set.

I used the mount below with my 60gt30 and it fits perfectly. Any closer to the wall and the TV's speakers wouldn't clear. The supplied hardware included everything I needed.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
post #3008 of 4129
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Originally Posted by armitage View Post

I'd also interested to know if other cameras are supported since the official Panasonic one is NLA. Of interest is that a few weeks ago panasonic.com was bundling a free Logitech webcam for Skype with purchase of several different Viera models.

Also, another silly question. I purchased OEM 3d glasses directly from panasonic.com and the literature with them states that they should only be charged (via USB cable) from the TV and no other device. With my TV wall-mounted, the USB ports are hard to access and the glasses look stupid either dangling from it or perched up top. I'd like to charge them from a computer's USB port if possible but don't want to damage them due to their ridiculous price. Anyone have experience here they'd care to share?

Thanks!

I've been using the USB charger that came with my old Motorola phone. It's rated at 5.0 volts and 550mA.
post #3009 of 4129
with the return of my crappy LG 55lx9500 panel i am leaning back towards a panny plasma.

whats the diff between st, gt, and vt series of panny plasma? i see 60" gt30's are currently selling at decent price for me (i cant post prices according to the forum rules).

anyone know if the lg ag-s110 3d glasses work with the panny 3d panels?
post #3010 of 4129
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Originally Posted by LSonsthagen View Post

I'm looking for a low profile solution for mounting my 55GT31. I'm considering the Sanus VLL10 which provides .67" of clearance between the wall and the TV. In searching this forum it seems that many have gone with tilt mounts that provide about 1.5" of clearance. Does anyone know the minimum distance that is necessary for mounting? I looks to me like the balun on the power cable is the only obstacle to clear. Do you just coil the excess power cable up behind the set? Anyone else done a low profile mount on this model?? Thanks.

I would be concerned about overheating since the heat vents are on the back of the tv. I have a sanus swing mount when not pulled out gives me about 3 to 4 inches
post #3011 of 4129
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Originally Posted by jschilds View Post

I would be concerned about overheating since the heat vents are on the back of the tv. I have a sanus swing mount when not pulled out gives me about 3 to 4 inches

The rear vents are obviously something you would want to pay attention to, but I think these newer panels are designed to dissipate a lot of the heat out the front through the panel itself. I've read that Samsung's were designed like that and would have no trouble believing Panasonic did something similar since the front of my GT30 puts out significantly more heat than my 60U from 2006.
post #3012 of 4129
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Originally Posted by armitage View Post

I'd also interested to know if other cameras are supported since the official Panasonic one is NLA. Of interest is that a few weeks ago panasonic.com was bundling a free Logitech webcam for Skype with purchase of several different Viera models.

Also, another silly question. I purchased OEM 3d glasses directly from panasonic.com and the literature with them states that they should only be charged (via USB cable) from the TV and no other device. With my TV wall-mounted, the USB ports are hard to access and the glasses look stupid either dangling from it or perched up top. I'd like to charge them from a computer's USB port if possible but don't want to damage them due to their ridiculous price. Anyone have experience here they'd care to share?

Thanks!

I bet there is a specific power requirement for charging the tiny battery, and possible it's lower than what a PC puts out. I would contact Panasonic to be sure. I thought the GT30 comes with a recharger? Seems like there was some kind of device I unwrapped that looked like a USB dock of some kind. If not, maybe a long USB extension cord (I bought one to get the WiFi dongle placed where my router could "see" it better) so you could charge the glasses in a better place.
post #3013 of 4129
I had a question on the VIERA Connect on this tv. Does VIERA Connect allow streaming of Netflix right to the tv without having to connect router? If so will it stream in 1080p?

I am looking at an OPPO BDP-93 Blu-ray Player and I had read somewhere that it only streams in 1080i but that would not matter if the tv could do it.
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Are anyones ST/GT perfectly uniform running the D-Nice break in slides, particularly on green? I dunno if it's just me, bad luck or what. But I've seen about 8- 50" GT's and 2- 50" ST's and all of them had uniformity problems on the green slides. Whether it be light or dark blotches areas/lines. Furthermore, I have seen them mostly in all of the exact same spots.

The set I have now is the best of the ones I have seen and looks perfect on every other slides and for everything else, except the green slides.... It's close...but not perfect. Am I being too anal? The picture looks amazing but I can't get this out of my mind. Do a lot of this years PDP displays have these uniformity problems?
post #3015 of 4129
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Originally Posted by jschilds View Post

I would be concerned about overheating since the heat vents are on the back of the tv. I have a sanus swing mount when not pulled out gives me about 3 to 4 inches

There's no danger of overheating when using a low profile mount. Virtually all of the heat is expelled out the top vents along the upper portion of the rear cabinet - the rest of the back panel is usually cool or mildly warm to the touch. These TVs are designed to be mounted to a wall, and i have never ever heard of a heat-related failure from being wall mounted.
post #3016 of 4129
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Originally Posted by Denon_Kid View Post

with the return of my crappy LG 55lx9500 panel i am leaning back towards a panny plasma.

whats the diff between st, gt, and vt series of panny plasma? i see 60" gt30's are currently selling at decent price for me (i cant post prices according to the forum rules).

anyone know if the lg ag-s110 3d glasses work with the panny 3d panels?

As I learned the plasma guys seem to expect us from the LCD land to do our own research

As far as I can tell the recommendation seems to be ST or VT. It seems the ST can be calibrated to look as good as the GT while the VT should be superior.

I am getting a 55VT30 delivered 3rd Jan to replace a 55LE8500 (banding). That said we watched Thor on Blu-Ray last night on the 55LE8500 and it was stunning - deep blacks, pop, and superb detail with almost no banding. My hope is the 55VT30 matches (or beats) the 85LE8500 picture but without banding.
post #3017 of 4129
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Originally Posted by Moonbloodsflow View Post

Are anyones ST/GT perfectly uniform running the D-Nice break in slides, particularly on green? I dunno if it's just me, bad luck or what. But I've seen about 8- 50" GT's and 2- 50" ST's and all of them had uniformity problems on the green slides. Whether it be light or dark blotches areas/lines. Furthermore, I have seen them mostly in all of the exact same spots.

The set I have now is the best of the ones I have seen and looks perfect on every other slides and for everything else, except the green slides.... It's close...but not perfect. Am I being too anal? The picture looks amazing but I can't get this out of my mind. Do a lot of this years PDP displays have these uniformity problems?

I'm on my second 2011 Panasonic panel (VT30 before, now ST30 - however, the one I inspected at Magnolia had it too) that has pink tint blotches on the left and right hand side of the screen visible at low IRE gray patterns and slides. It's also visible on real world content. Maybe a couple of hints of green, but pink is the real issue.
post #3018 of 4129
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Originally Posted by undecided View Post

As I learned the plasma guys seem to expect us from the LCD land to do our own research

As far as I can tell the recommendation seems to be ST or VT. It seems the ST can be calibrated to look as good as the GT while the VT should be superior.

I am getting a 55VT30 delivered 3rd Jan to replace a 55LE8500 (banding). That said we watched Thor on Blu-Ray last night on the 55LE8500 and it was stunning - deep blacks, pop, and superb detail with almost no banding. My hope is the 55VT30 matches (or beats) the 85LE8500 picture but without banding.

i started with a 42phd8uk many moons ago (which is a 4:3 panel in 16:9 canvas). that set continues to work great with no visible issues other than some brightness decay, which is expected with a plasma that is as old as my 42phd8uk.

i am not willing to pay ~$2000 for a panel that is marketed as "flagship product this year" that has banding, pink blotches, ghosting/halo'ing, or new firmware that renders the panel useless. if the engineers cant get this crap to work right then perhaps they should find another line of work. do it right or dont do it at all. just imho, etc.

i tried a lx9500 lcd because it was being hyped by the marketing folks, which turned out to be a big mistake on my part, and, my lx9500 was defective. and to boot LG has the worst customer service/support that i have ever dealt with.

so, coming from panny plasma i am thinking i might try another, i figure plasma technology must have advanced some since i got my 42phd, etc. just wondering if there will be some 2012 models which fix any issues the 2011 models had. i am no fan of the "lets release all new models every year and discontinue last years models" like LG does !!!
post #3019 of 4129
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Originally Posted by Denon_Kid View Post

i am no fan of the "lets release all new models every year and discontinue last years models" like LG does !!!

They all (Sony, Samsung, LG, Panasonic etc) do this.

My experience is buy at the end of the current year models and you'll probably get better deals. Yes there maybe something newer and better (or newer and worse) coming next year - but it will probably be mid-year by the time you see sets and reviews of what is shown at CES - and you'll pay premium pricing.

Have a look if the ST/GT/VT30 suit you at current pricing - if not wait a bit and see.

My understanding from comments here are that either the ST30 or VT30 make most sense.

Good luck
post #3020 of 4129
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Originally Posted by Denon_Kid View Post

i started with a 42phd8uk many moons ago (which is a 4:3 panel in 16:9 canvas). that set continues to work great with no visible issues other than some brightness decay, which is expected with a plasma that is as old as my 42phd8uk.

i am not willing to pay ~$2000 for a panel that is marketed as "flagship product this year" that has banding, pink blotches, ghosting/halo'ing, or new firmware that renders the panel useless. if the engineers cant get this crap to work right then perhaps they should find another line of work. do it right or dont do it at all. just imho, etc.

i tried a lx9500 lcd because it was being hyped by the marketing folks, which turned out to be a big mistake on my part, and, my lx9500 was defective. and to boot LG has the worst customer service/support that i have ever dealt with.

so, coming from panny plasma i am thinking i might try another, i figure plasma technology must have advanced some since i got my 42phd, etc. just wondering if there will be some 2012 models which fix any issues the 2011 models had. i am no fan of the "lets release all new models every year and discontinue last years models" like LG does !!!

I just replaced my 50phd8uk with the 55gt30. It really has exceeded all my expectations. Besides the picture quality being better you get 1080p, apps,,Ethernet etc
post #3021 of 4129
Just thought I'd share some of my experiences with my Nov build 55GT30 since I've had it for about a month now.. I had three main concerns when buying this set, so I'll talk about those (fbr, excessive dithering, and burn-in).

First off, tv is good in thx, and great once calibrated.. D-Nice's prep (if you're into that sort of thing) and ref settings are a great starting point. Hat tip there..

I have not experienced any of the Fbr issues that have been traditionally discussed here but I do witness a fluctuating brightness hit when going from an sd signal to an hd one or vice versa. Usually I'll see it when switching from say channel 4-1 to 4-2 and then back again. You get your image on the new channel and then a few seconds later, the brightness shift occurs. Personally, it's not a big deal to me as it's not scene to scene and it's just from switching signals, but thought i'd share nonetheless.

Dithering became a non issue once properly calibrated. Period. Done. Nothing to worry about. Beautiful.

Burn-in.. Ahhh.. crap. Alright, here we go. I have been very careful with my viewing habits. Not too much 2.35 material, any 4:3 sources got zoomed up and out. No static images, menus, pauses on for too long. Absolutely no gaming yet. And yet, I have burn in from using the pandora app over the holidays.. Again, didn't have it running all day each day, but maybe a couple hours here and there and making sure the rotating screen save came on during each song. But sure enough, the pandora text in the upper screen left is still there.. If you view certain slides (esp green ones) you'll see it and some of the thumbs up/down icons on the right.

So - that's a pretty big deal.. I'm pretty anal about this stuff, so if I'm taking this many precautions and I still got it, it's something to be concerned about..

Sure, I've ran the anti-retention scrolling bar - many of time. But as Randy pointed out, it's merely a placebo most likely. I've ran full tv content to help, I've ran the slides.. And still, you can just barely see it. This is all at around 200hrs of total run time so far.

I'm at a loss now. I have 3 days left in my 30 day return period and just don't know what to do.

Are there any other suggestions people can offer? Any advice on what I should do? I'm pretty bummed and would love some ideas.

Thanks all,
dave
post #3022 of 4129
I doubt it's burn-in but just temporary IR and will go away. Just keep running full screen material. I had the same issue with the Fox logo on NFL football. It's gone now .
post #3023 of 4129
I get the same thing with the [adult swim] logo, I've erased it a couple times with slides, but it usually takes 12+ hrs. These new panels do seem a lot more susceptible to this than my old pdp. Yes, it is only IR at this point and perhaps if you let it go and not worried about it nothing would happen permanently, just kinda tough convincing my self of that
post #3024 of 4129
I don't know if this helps, but I accidentally left my VT25 on with a static image for around 6 hours, only a couple of days after I bought it. My TV suffered image retention that eventually went away, but it took a couple of weeks, and was gradual. The text could not be seen during regular viewing but only if I examined the TV from a couple of feet away. So, I guess patience is the key.
post #3025 of 4129
Where is the Serial Number for my 55GT30? Is it obtained via Menu/Setup/About/Version? ESN?
post #3026 of 4129
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Originally Posted by jerome8283 View Post

Where is the Serial Number for my 55GT30? Is it obtained via Menu/Setup/About/Version? ESN?

back of the tv.
post #3027 of 4129
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Originally Posted by mark62 View Post

back of the tv.

TV is hanging on the wall. Does the serial number exist anywhere esle?
post #3028 of 4129
thanks cpcat, ped, and wealthyfriends for the responses.. i was starting to sweat on what to do.. it's good to hear others have had IR in the time range of 12hrs or even weeks (which is kind of crazy)..

I'll keep running full screen material like i have been for the last couple of nights and hope that it will eventually run it's course..

thanks again guys.. will keep you posted.. crossing my fingers it will just go away..
post #3029 of 4129
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Originally Posted by jerome8283 View Post

TV is hanging on the wall. Does the serial number exist anywhere esle?

On the box. Why do you need it?
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jerome8283 View Post

TV is hanging on the wall. Does the serial number exist anywhere esle?

There is often a sticker on the side of the TV with the model number and serial number which is visible when wall mounted (usually on the right side IIRC). Go check
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