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post #3721 of 4130
2/23/12 at 5:18pm
Can't find the answer anywhere, does component input handle 1080p?
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post #3722 of 4130
2/23/12 at 6:15pm
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Originally Posted by aggybong View Post

Yep, did the 100 hours and then used D-Nice's settngs.

I just noticed the same on mine .
Now its bugging me. Lol.
I have 3 weeks to decide.
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post #3723 of 4130
2/23/12 at 6:26pm
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Originally Posted by johnkb24 View Post

Can't find the answer anywhere, does component input handle 1080p?

That would be a no. HDMI is required for 1080p.
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post #3724 of 4130
2/23/12 at 6:36pm
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Originally Posted by wmoran View Post

Nothing, not even with SD card. Just a loud buzz coming from the front of the unit. I called Amazon and, as I suspected, they do not have any in inventory and don't know when they will get any more. I called Panasonic and they're sending out a technician Thursday to look at it. But there is something else that I hadn't noticed. There are cracks behind the screen that you can't see unless you're right next to it. It's not on the outside because the screen is smooth to the touch. I didn't see them when I inspected it upon delivery. Very dissapointed because it was a Dec build.

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Originally Posted by DR.DTS View Post

Well if anything the Tech will probably find the cause and also point out what you just found though he should go over the whole set. If you're saying you can see fine cracks behind the glass then it sounds like the front layer panel that holds the display electrodes and cells between a rear glass panel. Not Good....you didn't notice anything on the backside; dings, cracks or anything?

Well the Panny tech confirmed it, the display is cracked. He's going to contact Panasonic and see if they will send a replacement. Otherwise it's back to Amazon and I start my search all over since they don't have any 60gt30's in stock. Even the area BB's have to have it shipped to store and that takes 7-10 days and $300 more than Amazon. I'm hoping Amazon will give me a break on a 65gt30 since they have plenty of them in stock. Meantime I'm without a TV in the mancave since I sold my RPTV.
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post #3725 of 4130
2/23/12 at 6:54pm
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Originally Posted by aggybong View Post

I've decided to return this set to Amazon due to the terrible banding\\false contouring\\whatever you call it that I'm experiencing in darker scenes in movies. There is no way I can enjoy this set when no amount of tweaking fixes things like these attached pictures show.

I've always noticed this also. I wonder why the Pannys do this. It's not a deal breaker from my viewing distance, but the posterization/false contouring is much more noticeable on this set (as well as the st30 I had before it) then any other display I've ever had.

I did an a/b comparison with an LCD I have and could see that it's in the sources, but the LCD really hides it/softens it up well. Maybe it's the fact that the LCD has so many "enhancements" in place.

These sets really seem to be naked when it comes to that. If the source is great, the pic is great. If the channel is bad, it really shows it.

I talked to a pro calibrator about it from this site and he said that a calibration MIGHT improve this.
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post #3726 of 4130
2/23/12 at 7:04pm
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Originally Posted by xela19115 View Post

In the olden days, like 2003-2008, a lot of TV manufacturers used to license TV Guide On-Screen Guide. So when someone would plug an OTA antenna or coax (clear-QAM) they'd get a full guide data information on screen. The actual guide data metadata/information is usually carried by your local PBS station in the MPEG stream on a separate PID, the so-called PSIP data. FCC actually requires that cable companies pass it through. That's the reason why when you press INFO on remote control you get the show name, rating, whether it has SAP and CC, etc.

The sad fact is that most TV manufacturers stopped licensing TVGuide's On-Screen Guide and that is why you don't get more information, like synopsis, what's next, what's available on other channels.

Thanks. Really appreciate the info.
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post #3727 of 4130
2/24/12 at 5:29am
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Originally Posted by MrVizio View Post

I've always noticed this also. I wonder why the Pannys do this. It's not a deal breaker from my viewing distance, but the posterization/false contouring is much more noticeable on this set (as well as the st30 I had before it) then any other display I've ever had.

I did an a/b comparison with an LCD I have and could see that it's in the sources, but the LCD really hides it/softens it up well. Maybe it's the fact that the LCD has so many "enhancements" in place.

These sets really seem to be naked when it comes to that. If the source is great, the pic is great. If the channel is bad, it really shows it.

I talked to a pro calibrator about it from this site and he said that a calibration MIGHT improve this.

I noticed that also.
I only notice it on bad sources, lowering the contrast helped my set in those bad situations.
If you have the blu-ray for "no country for old men" or any other reference quality BD, you'll see that it doesn't show up at all, even from up close.
So yeah, IMO crappy signal= posterization/false contouring.
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post #3728 of 4130
2/24/12 at 5:55am
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Originally Posted by geezuz183 View Post

I noticed that also.
I only notice it on bad sources, lowering the contrast helped my set in those bad situations.

Interesting.

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If you have the blu-ray for "no country for old men" or any other reference quality BD, you'll see that it doesn't show up at all, even from up close.
So yeah, IMO crappy signal= posterization/false contouring.

I'll have to check that out. Would Avatar 2D BD be considered reference?
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post #3729 of 4130
2/24/12 at 6:02am
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Originally Posted by MrVizio View Post

Interesting.



I'll have to check that out. Would Avatar 2D BD be considered reference?

Avatar is considered reference quality according to the thread in this link. Check it out, everything in blue font are very good quality movies.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1168342
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post #3730 of 4130
2/24/12 at 6:15am
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Originally Posted by geezuz183 View Post

Avatar is considered reference quality according to the thread in this link. Check it out, everything in blue font are very good quality movies.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1168342

Thanks, brother!
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post #3731 of 4130
2/24/12 at 6:34am
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Originally Posted by EvilDanno View Post

That would be a no. HDMI is required for 1080p.

ok. Thanks. I have a Sammy that can handle 1080p over component. I wasn't sure if the Panny could do the same. Wonder why it doesn't? Bummer it cant.
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2/24/12 at 6:50am
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Originally Posted by johnkb24 View Post

ok. Thanks. I have a Sammy that can handle 1080p over component. I wasn't sure if the Panny could do the same. Wonder why it doesn't? Bummer it cant.

I'm not sure either.

I found out the hard way when I hooked my xbox up and there was no picture. I had to switch the xbox to 1080i.

But that didn't feel right for a TV like this so I decided to just spend the doe and get the new xbox with HDMI. Glad I did. Those old models had SOOO many problems. Off topic, sorry
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post #3733 of 4130
2/24/12 at 6:50am
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Originally Posted by MrVizio View Post

Thanks, brother!

No problem.
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post #3734 of 4130
2/24/12 at 7:29am
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Originally Posted by geezuz183 View Post

Avatar is considered reference quality according to the thread in this link. Check it out, everything in blue font are very good quality movies.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1168342


Thanks for the link. Some good info on there. Basically to sum it up...any Animation film, Transformers, Avatar and a handfull of other Sci-Fi movies. Kind of surprised by a few on there for being rated low like....

Star trek 2009
Saving Private Ryan (Sapphire Series)
Underworld (uncut)
Harry Potter DH pts 1 & 2
Lord of the Rings - RotK
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post #3735 of 4130
2/24/12 at 8:03am
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Originally Posted by DR.DTS View Post

Thanks for the link. Some good info on there. Basically to sum it up...any Animation film, Transformers, Avatar and a handfull of other Sci-Fi movies. Kind of surprised by a few on there for being rated low like....

Star trek 2009
Saving Private Ryan (Sapphire Series)
Underworld (uncut)
Harry Potter DH pts 1 & 2
Lord of the Rings - RotK

yeah, me too.

I have Star Trek and and it's one of my favs, picture wise. Just a pretty movie to look at.

Dr, you never clarified the issue about the 2.1 patch giving access to the pro settings. I'm still a bit confused by your post about it.
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post #3736 of 4130
2/24/12 at 8:27am
I'm glad to see some discussion on the false contouring issue!

I'm not glad that the only fix is "watch better mastered stuff" because it's not like I have a choice on that My old Panasonic PZ80U did not have these issues, nor does my Dell IPS monitor (which looks better all around, but poorer viewing angles and a slight glow on blacks).

The screen caps were from Immortals, which looked great in brighter scenes. I've also noticed it in almost every other movie I've watched to one degree or another, with the only exception being Real Steel, I believe. That just looked great all the way through.
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post #3737 of 4130
2/24/12 at 8:34am
Hi,
Friend of mine is getting a 60" GT 30 delivered tomorrow... if anybody can send me a link to good calibration settings for this TV, id appreciate it. thanks!!
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post #3738 of 4130
2/24/12 at 8:47am
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Originally Posted by DR.DTS View Post

Thanks for the link. Some good info on there. Basically to sum it up...any Animation film, Transformers, Avatar and a handfull of other Sci-Fi movies. Kind of surprised by a few on there for being rated low like....

Star trek 2009
Saving Private Ryan (Sapphire Series)
Underworld (uncut)
Harry Potter DH pts 1 & 2
Lord of the Rings - RotK

Tron: Legacy in 2D and 3D BD look absolutely incredible on my 55GT30.
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post #3739 of 4130
2/24/12 at 9:24am
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Originally Posted by NY613 View Post

Hi,
Friend of mine is getting a 60" GT 30 delivered tomorrow... if anybody can send me a link to good calibration settings for this TV, id appreciate it. thanks!!

Here is D-Nice's thread that will give you a great start:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1371710

Go to post 3 to get the specific settings for a GT but you will need to go into the service menu.
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post #3740 of 4130
2/24/12 at 9:54am
Sorry if this is already posted elsewhere, but need some help. Just got a 55gt31 and am running the panel prep slides.

I will be connecting the following: PS3 slim, BDT-310, Verizon Fios HD box and xbox 360 launch model with either component or vga. Are there any "special" settings I should change on any of these? Sorry if this is a loaded or vague question, I just want to get everything perfect from the start. Thanks and I appreciate any help provided....
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post #3741 of 4130
2/24/12 at 10:18am
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Originally Posted by Mean Gene View Post

Sorry if this is already posted elsewhere, but need some help. Just got a 55gt31 and am running the panel prep slides.

I will be connecting the following: PS3 slim, BDT-310, Verizon Fios HD box and xbox 360 launch model with either component or vga. Are there any "special" settings I should change on any of these? Sorry if this is a loaded or vague question, I just want to get everything perfect from the start. Thanks and I appreciate any help provided....

I also have best buy's exclusive gt31 (gt30).
I set all my devices to YCBcr and ps3 to limited. I haven't tried them on Full RGB.
I have my Xbox connected with the VGA cable. Seems a bit off on its Max resolution of 768p. I have to try component. I was used to having my other TV's black level set to "dark" with ycbcr and "light" with full RGB. from what I was told in either this or the calibration thread, "light works for everything" and seems to be the most popular setting. Looks good to me.
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post #3742 of 4130
2/24/12 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by whipit View Post

Here is D-Nice's thread that will give you a great start:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1371710

Go to post 3 to get the specific settings for a GT but you will need to go into the service menu.

thanks, do i need to use post 1 for the first 100 hours? and then use post 3 settings?
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post #3743 of 4130
2/24/12 at 11:53am
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Originally Posted by geezuz183 View Post

I also have best buy's exclusive gt31 (gt30).
I set all my devices to YCBcr and ps3 to limited. I haven't tried them on Full RGB.
I have my Xbox connected with the VGA cable. Seems a bit off on its Max resolution of 768p. I have to try component. I was used to having my other TV's black level set to "dark" with ycbcr and "light" with full RGB. from what I was told in either this or the calibration thread, "light works for everything" and seems to be the most popular setting. Looks good to me.

I've heard less input lag with VGA vs HDMI or component. Let us know the results if you switch.
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post #3744 of 4130
2/24/12 at 2:37pm
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thanks, do i need to use post 1 for the first 100 hours? and then use post 3 settings?

Yes.
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post #3745 of 4130
2/24/12 at 3:27pm
I got my mount today! I think that was one of the longest 4 days of my life. I sure hope that it works out ok.
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post #3746 of 4130
2/24/12 at 6:12pm
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Originally Posted by MrVizio View Post

yeah, me too. I have Star Trek and and it's one of my favs, picture wise. Just a pretty movie to look at.

I really enjoyed that one, i treated myself to a high-end movie theater when the little woman was out town - it's weird going alone but nice to not have to answer questions throughout the movie


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Dr, you never clarified the issue about the 2.1 patch giving access to the pro settings. I'm still a bit confused by your post about it.

He is mistaken. The Pro Settings menu has always been acccessible in Custom mode since the day the ST30, GT30, and VT30 first became available.

He might be thinking of the patch for the VT30 that unlocks some sort of additional ISFccc settings, but this has nothing to do with the GT30 or ST30. VT30 only.
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post #3747 of 4130
2/24/12 at 6:54pm
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I really enjoyed that one, i treated myself to a high-end movie theater when the little woman was out town - it's weird going alone but nice to not have to answer questions throughout the movie

Lol. So true.

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He is mistaken. The Pro Settings menu has always been acccessible in Custom mode since the day the ST30, GT30, and VT30 first became available.

He might be thinking of the patch for the VT30 that unlocks some sort of additional ISFccc settings, but this has nothing to do with the GT30 or ST30. VT30 only.

Thanks for clarifying, Randy. I figured he might have a VT30.
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2/24/12 at 8:00pm
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Originally Posted by geezuz183 View Post

I also have best buy's exclusive gt31 (gt30).
I set all my devices to YCBcr and ps3 to limited. I haven't tried them on Full RGB.
I have my Xbox connected with the VGA cable. Seems a bit off on its Max resolution of 768p. I have to try component. I was used to having my other TV's black level set to "dark" with ycbcr and "light" with full RGB. from what I was told in either this or the calibration thread, "light works for everything" and seems to be the most popular setting. Looks good to me.

Thanks for the info, so the gt30 will not do 1080p via component? I will try both for the xbox to see which looks better...
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2/25/12 at 3:25am
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Originally Posted by Mean Gene View Post

Thanks for the info, so the gt30 will not do 1080p via component? I will try both for the xbox to see which looks better...

No, just 1080i.

I was able to get my hands on the VGA monster cable for the Xbox. I wanted to see if there was any noticeable difference in lag. I have to test out more games, but so far I Couldn't tell a difference vs HDMI.

The VGA actually looks pretty good after some adjustments. You Have to set the Xbox to 1360 x 768, then in the TVs settings for PC Adjustment you have to also change it to 1366 x 768.

Brightness has to be REDUCED to between 15 and 25! 50 will look blown out. And you don't have access to the black level setting through VGA.

Color bumped up 5 to 10 notches as well.

Other than that it looks great. I could easily be happy with it if there was an improvement with lag (or if upon further testing I realize there is).

Otherwise, the HDMI is simpler, and Should provide the better image, due to the resolution limits of the VGA. Although I really couldn't tell much difference in image quality between the two.
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2/25/12 at 5:34am
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Originally Posted by MrVizio View Post

No, just 1080i.

I was able to get my hands on the VGA monster cable for the Xbox. I wanted to see if there was any noticeable difference in lag. I have to test out more games, but so far I Couldn't tell a difference vs HDMI.

The VGA actually looks pretty good after some adjustments. You Have to set the Xbox to 1360 x 768, then in the TVs settings for PC Adjustment you have to also change it to 1366 x 768.

Brightness has to be REDUCED to between 15 and 25! 50 will look blown out. And you don't have access to the black level setting through VGA.

Color bumped up 5 to 10 notches as well.

Other than that it looks great. I could easily be happy with it if there was an improvement with lag (or if upon further testing I realize there is).

Otherwise, the HDMI is simpler, and Should provide the better image, due to the resolution limits of the VGA. Although I really couldn't tell much difference in image quality between the two.

Oh, ok. I didn't know I didn't know there was and option in TVs PC mode for setting the resolution to 768. I have to try this, Thanks!
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