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post #31 of 3822
Sorry about my negative feedback and questions. I read to much into the review from Chad. I guess I really had to much reservations about a panel that large only costing the amount it does. You guys have really helped me. I am off to see the tv in person. Again, sorry for the negative comments. Very gald to hear how much you like it.
post #32 of 3822
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Originally Posted by marky22 View Post

Sorry about my negative feedback and questions. I read to much into the review from Chad. I guess I really had to much reservations about a panel that large only costing the amount it does. You guys have really helped me. I am off to see the tv in person. Again, sorry for the negative comments. Very gald to hear how much you like it.

Good luck on seeing it person. Unless something has changed in the past week ( which is more than possible) the people at Sears don't even know they have it in stock until you tell them. My Sears wasn't expecting any floor model at all.
post #33 of 3822
Will this TV have as good as or better PQ than my current Panny 58pz700u? I have room for the 70" and bigger is better in my book. Here's a pic of my space. If I'm not supposed to post pics in this thread let me know and I'll delete it.

post #34 of 3822
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Originally Posted by rockaway1836 View Post

Good luck on seeing the seeing person. Unless something has changed in the past week ( which is more than possible) the people at Sears don't even know they have it in stock until you tell them. My Sears wasn't expecting any floor model at all.

The FRY's in Costa Mesa has one on display. I'll have to check my local FRY's this weekend. They did not have it last weekend.
post #35 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Duffinator View Post

Will this TV have as good as or better PQ than my current Panny 58pz700u? I have room for the 70" and bigger is better in my book. Here's a pic of my space. If I'm not supposed to post pics in this thread let me know and I'll delete it.

Nice set up. There are pros and cons going from a plasma to an LCD / LED. If you are ok with this "HUGE" debate, this unit would look great !
post #36 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Marky22, you could not be more wrong, Chad like this set. I like it myself.

Like Marky22, I too felt that the review indicated that the set was less than stellar. Personally, if I want to buy a new TV, I will only accept the best; my TV is the core of my HT and it deserves to be the best.

I interpreted the review to say that the set is good (maybe even very good) but not great. And that means that although I might recommend this set to a friend who wants a good TV with a giant screen, I wouldn't look to the Sharp as a replacement for a smaller, older TV with excellent PQ (like my current Pany 58").

It looks like my wait for the latest, greatest 70"+ continues ...
post #37 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Nice set up. There are pros and cons going from a plasma to an LCD / LED. If you are ok with this "HUGE" debate, this unit would look great !

Thanks. I have a Sharp LC45GD5U hanging in my bedroom. It's fine expect for the motion blur. To me the plasmas look more film like which I prefer. But the latest LED LCD's look amazing. I'm always drawn to the 8000 series Samsung's.
post #38 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Duffinator View Post

Will this TV have as good as or better PQ than my current Panny 58pz700u? I have room for the 70" and bigger is better in my book.

I too have a Panasonic TH-58PZ700U (professionally calibrated) and I was looking to this Sharp as a replacement. However, after this review, I just can't justify the change. From the looks of things, the PQ in the Panny is still better than this Sharp and to me that matters more than the increase in size (or the energy savings).

But if you really, really want a 70" TV today, the Sharp sounds like a good deal to me.
post #39 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Rob Greer View Post

Like Marky22, I too felt that the review indicated that the set was less than stellar. Personally, if I want to buy a new TV, I will only accept the best; my TV is the core of my HT and it deserves to be the best.

I interpreted the review to say that the set is good (maybe even very good) but not great. And that means that although I might recommend this set to a friend who wants a good TV with a giant screen, I wouldn't look to the Sharp as a replacement for a smaller, older TV with excellent PQ (like my current Pany 58").

It looks like my wait for the latest, greatest 70"+ continues ...

Nothing wrong with that. The set you are looking for may be found in the 85" Panasonic, however one could have 7 of these Sharps VS 1 Panasonic.
post #40 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Rob Greer View Post

I too have a Panasonic TH-58PZ700U (professionally calibrated) and I was looking to this Sharp as a replacement. However, after this review, I just can't justify the change. From the looks of things, the PQ in the Panny is still better than this Sharp and to me that matters more than the increase in size (or the energy savings).

But if you really, really want a 70" TV today, the Sharp sounds like a good deal to me.

I wish I had originally purchased the 65" and then I wouldn't be thinking about this. If the PQ matches or exceeds my Panny I'm in. I wonder what the 735 and 935 models will bring to the table???
post #41 of 3822
For those HALF CUP EMPTY Members that are cherry picking the negative please read the bullets below as I cherry picked his positives and as Chris stated Chad is obsessive perfectionist at calibrating TV's as that's his livelihood and I met him several years ago and his reputation is that he spends numerous hours doing his calibrations for his customers and often beyond the norm to do the best he can to perfect it for his customers and so it's important to garner all these friggin positives he voiced throughout his review instead of destroying another panel thread by pulling out a few negative bullets we as Joe Sixpack Consumers may never notice.

  • The 732's screen size will give enthusiasts wanting a big screen a very important alternative to the 73" DLP rear projectors.
  • I found the Quattron technology generally got in the way of an otherwise excellent TV on last year's LE820.
  • The 732, on the other hand, is able to withstand a fairly bright room and still look outstanding.
  • Detail looked a little soft, but flesh tones were very good.
  • The 732 showed excellent pop in bright scenes; in dark scenes it was somewhat diminished but still respectable.
  • I was impressed with the 732's very good shadow detail.
  • Colors look great, though they were just a bit too rich. (Some like it that way)
  • Auto mode provided an impressive, well balanced picture overall.
  • After disengaging it, pans and motion were excellent. "Film Mode"
  • Flesh tones were very good, though if anything they could be a touch on the pink side.

POST CALIBRATION:

  • The DVE Montage revealed excellent pop and contrast in bright scenes.
  • There was excellent shadow detail.
  • There was a very good sense of depth.
  • Colors and skin tones were very good, and there was good detail.
  • Finally, in The Dark Knight, the 732 showed excellent pop, vibrant colors, and lifelike detail. The overall presentation was rich in a good way.
  • Colors were true, and once again the picture had very good depth.
  • The Sharp 732 is a great TV for the most part, and I was thrilled that Sharp included a control that eliminated the unnatural colors seen in previous Quattrons.
  • The 732 gives a far better image than even the best 73" DLPs; and thanks to it's hefty light output capability and good screen, it can maintain that great image much better than those sets in bright living rooms. If you are looking for a high performance, very large flat panel at a price that's not out in the stratosphere, feast your eyes on the latest Quattron.


It may not be the Holy Grail but if on balance you find all that negative then go buy a smaller D8000 at about double the price if you ever find one. Keep in mind the first owner's feedback was excellent and he seemed thrilled at the results and he owns a Kuro and a Panny Plasma from which to judge by in his home.
post #42 of 3822
CP are you selling the set Chad calibrated?
post #43 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Rob Greer View Post

From the looks of things, the PQ in the Panny is still better than this Sharp and to me that matters more than the increase in size

Where did you get to see the the Sharp?
post #44 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Chad B View Post

Today I had the opportunity to calibrate and evaluate the new 70" Sharp Quattron LED LCD at Cleveland Plasma. The 732 has a full LED backlight, unlike the edgelit LED backlights that have become the standard on most new models. A full LED backlight could offer some solid advantages; but possibly due to the 732's price point, local dimming is notably absent. Of key importance is whether Sharp's highly touted Quattron technology brings anything significant to the table; on last year's LE820, I found the Quattron technology generally got in the way of an otherwise excellent TV.

Hi Chad, thanks for the excellent review. I like the thoroughness and how you tell it like it is in a balanced, unvarnished fashion. Too many times you see a review that is "golly gee whiz" or "but the super duper set for only $100,000 is so much better".

Best yet you've answered all the key questions I have about this particular model, especially regarding the ability to calibrate it accurately. It is clearly a good deal for the money and as such rates major consideration in this size category.

The only thing holding me back from going out and buying one right now is the question of the 932. While 3D is of no interest to me, the potential improvements with local dimming are, depending on the cost.
post #45 of 3822
Just got the word. My set is in. Now just have to get in gear and head down to Sears to pick it up !!
post #46 of 3822
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Originally Posted by topr View Post

Where did you get to see the the Sharp?

I haven't seen it. Nor would I be able to see a calibrated model anywhere in any showroom. But from the review above I gleaned the following:

* There was a tiny bit of graininess, but it was mostly noticeable up close.

* Flesh tones were very good, though if anything they could be a touch on the pink side.

* The Dirty Screen Effect was visible in the white tablecloths as they panned across the screen.

* That pesky DSE was visible at times.

* Stationary whites looked pure, though panning diminished their purity.

* I did see slight moiré and artifacts when the 732 was deinterlacing 1080i material. The effect was impacted by 120Hz "Motion Enhancement" selection, but was never entirely eliminated.

* The Sharp 732 is a great TV for the most part ...

Taking this information along with the fact that the set won't have ideal viewing angles tells me that this TV isn't going to provide significantly better PQ than what I have on my current TV (and that's giving it some leeway).

I'm not trying to bash the set. It looks like a cool piece of technology. I'm just offering a few reasons why at first I was excited about it and now I'm not. I was ready to order one before the review; but the review cooled me off and helped convince me to wait until something better arrives. Knowing what I know now about TVs, I wish I had a Kuro instead of my current Panny. I don't want to end up in that place again. So for my search this time, I'm going to try and be patient, waiting for what I think is the best possible 2011/2012 70"+ set that provides a noticeable PQ improvement over what I have currently. (that costs less than $7000)

And to stop any further angst on this thread, I'll unsubscribe and let you guys get back to discussing the many positives of this impressive piece of technology.
post #47 of 3822
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Originally Posted by westa6969 View Post

instead of destroying another panel thread by pulling out a few negative bullets we as Joe Sixpack Consumers may never notice.

I totally agree. Consider this...the 52" 700un (a similar Sharp display) released just over couple of years ago retailed for around 2800.00 bucks. And although I have yet to see this display I'm going to go out on a limb and say this display will have a vastly better picture and makes a 52" look like computer monitor. How about a little price/performance perspective from the debbie downers
post #48 of 3822
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Originally Posted by topr View Post

I totally agree. Consider this...the 52" 700un (a similar Sharp display) released just over couple of years ago retailed for around 2800.00 bucks. And although I have yet to see this display I'm going to go out on a limb and say this display will have a vastly better picture and makes a 52" look like computer monitor. How about a little price/performance perspective from the debbie downers

The set I am replacing is a 7 year old Gen 3 Sony 60" LCD RPTV I paid something like $4K for. Size to me is a big deal and I didn't see the point of spending multi-thousands on something that was the same size or nearly so.

This however is going to be a serious upgrade in every way except viewing angle. Definitely worth it.
post #49 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Dick Fingers View Post

(I made this post in the 70 inch thread as well, wasn't sure where it needed to go)


Is there any place offering 0% financing on the 70LE732U? My 6 year old 60 inch Sony just sh*t the bed (like today with no warning), and I'm needing a replacement. Would LOVE to pick one of these up, if I can do it fast.

I guess there is zero chance of me getting one by Saturday mid-morning? Ridiculous notion, I'm sure, but I'm kind of desperate, as I'm an enormous UK fan, and I've got an appointment with the Final Four.

Any guidance or help would be much, much appreciated. TIA, fellas.

If you have good credit and do not have a Sears charge card apply for one when you go to place the order at the store and you should get 18 month no interest.

I did yesterday and the TV should be ready for pickup next Friday. At least I have a week to relocate the 52"to the bedroom and make space for the 70".
post #50 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

This unit is excellent !! We both agreed this unit was as good as the UN46D8000 that we just did.

This is heavyweight statement which should calm emotions.

But... Chad's review of the UN46D8000 feels on a bit higher note and there were less of those little issues mentioned.

The DSE (Dirty Screen Effect) is maybe small but sounds annoying as it seems resurrection of something which was laid to rest years ago. In any case, those considering this TV have an item to check: if the DSE is noticeable and irritating, don't buy. DSE is very likely to be inherent to the technology so it will be present in the higher-end models too.
post #51 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

CP are you selling the set Chad calibrated?

I will advise, there is a local guy who was interested 3 days ago. He has to stop out and look at it, to see what he thinks.

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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

Chris could you do me a big favor and measure the mounting hole distance left to right?
Much thanks

holes are 15 3/4" by 15 3/4". Up and down, side to side.
post #52 of 3822
Sears in Aventura (north Miami) has a display unit going up today.
post #53 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

I will advise, there is a local guy who was interested 3 days ago. He has to stop out and look at it, to see what he thinks.

holes are 15 3/4" by 15 3/4". Up and down, side to side.

Well if we can come to terms, I can buy today. But if you prefer to wait on the "other guy" ;-)
post #54 of 3822
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Originally Posted by irkuck View Post

This is heavyweight statement which should calm emotions.

Yep, good to see Sharp being on top of things again
I'll have to wait for the rest of Sharp's line up to come out before I decide which of Sharp's 70 inchers I want I'm still leaning slightly towards 935 - unless it's too expensive.....
post #55 of 3822
Seems like a killer set that's an absolute steal for the price. I love my 46" LE700 from 2009 minus the banding it has....Sharp will sell a lot of these based on the size/price alone, considering a 55" D8000 is around the same price (!!). Can't wait to see one!!!
post #56 of 3822
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Originally Posted by vladi123456 View Post

Yep, good to see Sharp being on top of things again
I'll have to wait for the rest of Sharp's line up to come out before I decide which of Sharp's 70 inchers I want I'm still leaning slightly towards 935 - unless it's too expensive.....

I was waiting for 935 myself, but decided on 732 instead. 935 suppose to be close to $5K based on the Sharp interview from CES. I just couldn't justify this difference in price for 3D, which I won't likely watch or local dimming. Of course if the price difference would be less then $1k it is a completely different story.
post #57 of 3822
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Originally Posted by nick_083 View Post

I was waiting for 935 myself, but decided on 732 instead. 935 suppose to be close to $5K based on the Sharp interview from CES. I just couldn't justify this difference in price for 3D, which I won't likely watch or local dimming. Of course if the price difference would be less then $1k it is a completely different story.

That's what I'm hoping for - price difference of about $1K. But more than likely - by the time 935 comes out - 732 will be even more discounted, so the price difference would be greater than that.... Still, I want to see some MSRPs before I decide. I've had my current Sharp for more than 5 years, and I'm going to keep this 70 incher for even longer than that, so I need to stay calm and make a good choice
post #58 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Chad B View Post

The zone dimming of the D8000 helps it; it would have better contrast. It has the edge over all, but I think there's a big price difference.
I think either one would be a big improvement over the Toshiba CRT RPTV in most every regard except viewing angle.

Chad: Thank you very much for the review. My major concern was regarding the screwed up CMS on last years models. Very glad they seem to have fixed that. A couple of questions:

1. What was the black FL (or mll) that you measured for the contrast ratio?

2. Please give us an indication of the Sharps motion resolution capability vs. that of the Panny plasmas you have calibrated recently.

Thanks
post #59 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

I will advise, there is a local guy who was interested 3 days ago. He has to stop out and look at it, to see what he thinks.



holes are 15 3/4" by 15 3/4". Up and down, side to side.

Chris: Thanks for providing the set for Chad to review. Have you had any info from Sharp regarding the availability date for the 935's? At CES May was mentioned. Thanks
post #60 of 3822
What are the differences between the 732, 735, and 935?
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