Official Sharp 2011 LC-70LE732U Owner's Thread [NO PRICE TALK] - Page 117

I recently calibrated my Sharp 70" display's Movie Mode and my experience was that you simply cannot calibrate the CMS with enhanced gamut feature enabled. The Y values required are unobtainable. If I switch to standard gamut everything calibrates fine - then if the enhanced gamut is enabled and a measure taken, it makes mince-meat out of the CIE chart. The option is only available in Movie Mode, so I don't really know what gamut is enabled in the other modes.

bruce

I was JUST looking at rope lighting...cant decide what the best way to power it on & off would be...thoughts?

i use this and would be fine for a 70", it is bright enough...

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I was hoping for the best with the replacement LC-70LE732 I received from Sharp on January 31st 2012, but the picture quality is not happening for me. I can detect problems in screen uniformity with this panel - some cloudiness, and a very visible lattice/diamond like structure behind the image on screen when viewing content with a bright background. No dark corners or flashlighting. I don't overdrive the contrast, backlight, or brightness of this display. This is my 3rd Sharp television in a little over a month. Not very pleased, and am thinking about a Panasonic plasma at this point. I am pleased about the support Sharp has provided so far, and the picture quality is excellent otherwise. Back to the old 65 inch Mits for a while. See attached.

It seems like everyone with Sharp TV's that have some clouding issue, most have it in the lower right corner. I have the 735 and have some clouding in the right corner, but not as bad as yours. And it's generally near where the tv's power, channel, volume, etc control is located. For so many with clouding issues to have one near the controls can not be coincendence. It has to be a design flaw.

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Got a good picture fr DVD. This is sunlight though a tent opening. Not an even picture but made me squint.

My first TV had clouding in the upper left of center - my replacement has clouding along the left, strongest in the upper left. So not all have it in the lower right. (Although mine is the 735)

I did the paperwork to return the 732 to Best Buy. They are picking it up on Monday. I really like the picture on this set, but really annoyed by the noise in the background caused by the uneven backlightlighting. We'll see if the next gen Sharp panels perform better when they are released to the retail channel next month. Oh well...

So I got my dad's new TV set up this weekend and I used the CNET settings to adjust. You are all right that the standard setting out of the box is pretty bad. The CNET settings look really good at night. Especially the flesh tones.
During the day though we were watching basketball and golf...the screen seemed to have a white haze...almost like a fog to it. Any idea what setting could correct this? He has tried the contrast and backlight. Any other ideas. Remember...at night it looks good and I used the CNET settings. Thanks for any insight you can provide.

Ben

I've had my 70LE732 for a little over a week now and can say this set is amazing.
Black levels and skin tones look very good in standard mode without tweeks.
I must have a very good panel based on the complaints posted above.
I own a Panasonic 58vt25 Plasma also and I can honestly say that Sharp has done a good job making a large TV that competes very well with plasmas.
If you can still get the 732 go for it. You won't be disappointed.

Sorry to be pushy, but does anyone have any ideas how to correct this?

Get your set calibrated & stop relying on others settings.

You don't have OPC enabled do you? That would cause the settings to change based on the ambient light in the room. I'd make sure it is off. No other reason for that to happen unless you are seeing a LOT of glare on the screen in the daytime.

WTF are you talking about? Did you miss the part where I said I tried different setting. What are these forums for? Certainly not to help the less knowledgeable learn something? Jerk.
We live in the sticks. There isn't going to be a pro calibrator for hours.

I'll email my dad. I believe I had this off, but I'll double check with him.
Like I stated earlier, I tried adjusting the contrast all the way up and down. Nothing really made the haze go away, unless it was way up or down.

What I was trying to say is I tried every setting posted here & many private ones. No 2 sets are alike. It is up to you to find what looks good or get your set calibrated. I doubt we can help you find the correct settings.
BTW, please stop insulting my in a private message with profanity that would get you banned if posted here. Jerk.

Listen to what was said. Geezer is correct. You can find every calibration on this forum and in existence, and it won't be perfect for your set. Get the Disney WOW Bluray and try that (You won't be able to set the CMS settings).

If it is true that you sent Geezer a pm with profanity, you need some help buddy. Do things with tact and humbleness and you'll find your life will be much more enjoyable (set without haziness).

Ok, instead of everybody getting their panties in a wad, why don't we try to figure out why the pq is great in a semi dark room ( I'm assuming SOME light at night) and so bad in the day time. A backlight issue? Glare? OPC? What else can we come up with. I can understand his frustration with the " get a pro" response as I believe most of us are hands on kind of people and budget conscious. We can all agree as it has been said a million times that no two sets are the same, but they should be somewhere in the same zone. So using say C-net's settings as a beginning should give someone a ROUGH start and probably be at least SOME improvement over the defaults. As far as sending a pm to someone with foul language, that is totally unnecessary. If you want to vent, do it in a civil manner. we are supposed to help each other, not slam one another. So what could help here? Possibly 2 sets of settings, one for night and one for daytime perhaps? Or darker shades in the room for daytime viewing? It's not helpful when people don't even try to come up with a solution.

Thank you, you get it. I certainly have the capacity to understand no two TV's are alike. I used the CNET settings as a starting place and they made the picture a lot better. I just can't figure out what would be causing the fog.white haze during viewing in a lighted room. That's it. I don't have a great understanding of what all the settings on a tv do...so I thought someone be like "too much white...try setting "x." That's all. I tried backlight and contrast. I thought maybe something in the fine tuning settings would maybe help.
I must say that people in the audio forum are abundantly more helpful than what I have found in the TV forum. As far as sending a private message...I knew what I wanted to say would get deleted off the forum, private message would be seen. Takes two to tango and I felt his tone was unnecessary considering forums are meant to HELP each other. If I knew it all, I wouldn't be hanging around here.

Sounds like clouding. You may have a defective set. Post some pictures to confirm & I never did get that apology.

I would have thought clouding would show up more in a darkened room than a light one. It would make the blacks lighter, so would be more noticeable in low ambient light than high ambient light. Having tried the C- Net settings myself, I did not see this problem with my set in my room. At night there are always a few lights on including a backlight behind the tv. In daytime, translucent shades with no direct light. Doesn't it seem odd to anyone that it looks washed out in the daytime, but not at night? Still say too much ambient light in the room. I'd try covering a window or two and see if there is any improvement. Maybe even a bad reflection. If all else fails, look into adjusting the gamma setting and see if that helps. Just a suggestion.

Personally I use more than one setting to watch the set. Movie is the night setting, and I toggle between standard, user, auto, etc. depending on how I feel in the day time. I am also changing the settings depending on what I am watching (both day and night). It really comes down to what works for you.

IMHO there is no way you can watch any set in both day/night times unless you have complete light control.

As far as the haziness, I'm thinking you have a defective set. Post some pictures so we can get a look at what you're seeing.

I agree, post some pictures of what you see. We can only blindly guess without them.

So I tried to hang my Sharp 733u to my TV stand (its a mount and a stand). When I got it all together I noticed a big green looking cloud in the middle of the screen. I immediately took the TV off the mount and the spot was still there. I didn't over tighten the bracket or anything. I rubbed the spot very gently and it went away. Does anyone know what this could of been and should I try to hang it again? I dont want to risk damaging it.

That confirms what I found about reducing some of the DSE we see with these sets. I found if I send a pure white to the tv and GENTLY rub the screen with a micro- fiber cloth I was able to reduce the DSE to a degree. I think what you did in hanging the tv was to slightly bend the panel, which would separate the layers of the LCD. By rubbing you "reconnected" them.

Since I don't live in the same town I can't do this. My dad won't take them and he is pretty limited in his computer use ability. He says when he changes it to dynamic during the day it looks better. So I suspect it is something with the CNET setting and a combination with ambient light. There living rooms has many windows and receives a lot of light in the day time. This is why he wanted a new tv in the first place. His old Sony --GRAND WEGA MODEL #KDF-E60A20 did not have the best viewing angle. he sits the tv on a 4-5' shelf over the fireplace. We were a little disappointed as I thought the Sharp would be quite a bit sharper than the Sony when it was newer. It really isn't a whole lot better. The viewing angle is better than the Sony, which is key for his room. Granted this Sony cost $4500 when he bought it new almost 10 years ago. The Sharp isn't bad by any means, but I feel that my Toshiba 55G300U has a better picture than his Sharp, which I wasn't suspecting. Maybe just cause 70" is soo big and they haven't perfected it yet. My tv cost $1200 about 2 years ago.

All of this talk about settings lately made me want to share my experience with PQ and this set.

After struggling with calibration DVDs and never being fully satisfied, I decided to purchase a D3 meter with CalMAN SW bundle and I must say I couldn't be happier with the results after doing my own calibration. I know everyone says most TVs are different etc etc, but in my experience this is even more exaggerated with these Sharp sets (have a few Sharp LCDs in the house). For example, putting in some of the posted settings here and measuring the results leaves me with a color gamut that is all over the place, and no where near as good of a greyscale response vs desirable results (based my goals off of Chad B's results). This is further evidenced by my finalized (after several hours of tweaking to get things JUST right lol) settings which are significantly different from others here and I must say the difference is night and day from a PQ perspective. Everything just looks sooooo much better.

I HIGHLY recommend to everyone spending nearly 2500$ on a television to just bite the extra small bullet of like 350$ (just over 10% of the purchase price) and arm yourself with the proper tools to squeeze every possible amount of performance out of your big new toy. Best part yet? You can use the same meter and software to calibrate all of your other televisions, future purchases, etc etc with results on par to professional calibrators (at least in my experience). Trust me - it's worth every penny.

Now if we could only get Sharp and Spectracal to get together and allow for the software to do a one button calibration as Panasonic is doing currently with Spectracal, it would make it an easy thing to do for everyone. At least that is what I was told by someone who works for Spectracal.

Yes, that would be great

Though honestly, once you get the hang of it doing it manually really is not that hard (there are so many great step by step guides out there and even just the workflow when using CalMAN is very straight forward). Worst part is the CMS settings on this set are not well controlled, so tweaking one setting like hue ends up changing luminance. It can get very frustrating lol but the payoff is worth it when you get everything just right!

I'm a newbie and relied on the helpful comments in this forum to buy the Samsung LN55A950, which I love. I now have my eye on the 732. Anyone here do the same upgrade? If so, any regrets? Any comments would be very welcome as I have a decision to make whether to buy the 732 or keep the Sammy. Thanks.