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post #31 of 611
5/27/11 at 4:48am
The pre-order bonuses and cover car were released yesterday:

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/preorder/
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post #32 of 611
5/27/11 at 6:21am
In no way am I interested in Kinect controls for this game. None whatsoever. Head tracking...ok, fine, neat. But I'm not holding my arms up for hours on end and have some auto-brake and gas nonsense.

MS needs to suck it up and realize the You are the controller nonsense doesn't work for 99% of the games out there. We NEED buttons.
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post #33 of 611
5/27/11 at 6:42am
What a great feature to let you import your paint layers from Forza 3 into the new game and rewarding your dedication to Forza 3 with gift cars. Now that's treating your fans right
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post #34 of 611
5/27/11 at 8:48am
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In no way am I interested in Kinect controls for this game. None whatsoever. Head tracking...ok, fine, neat. But I'm not holding my arms up for hours on end and have some auto-brake and gas nonsense.

MS needs to suck it up and realize the You are the controller nonsense doesn't work for 99% of the games out there. We NEED buttons.

I didn't read a lot of the previews of this game yet, but I was under the impression that the Kinect features were basically going to be head tracking while racing and that's about it for in-game involvement.
The main feature was supposed to be in the garage where you could manipulate the car with your hands and maybe even invoke "exploded" views of components.
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post #35 of 611
6/1/11 at 12:37am
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post #36 of 611
6/1/11 at 8:16am
That looks really neat and appears to work well, but I still can't wrap my head around whether or not it would actually be good. You turn your head to the side, but you still have to look straight ahead at the screen. This strikes me as very unnatural. Anyone have direct experience with something like this?

jeff
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post #37 of 611
6/1/11 at 10:00am
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That looks really neat and appears to work well, but I still can't wrap my head around whether or not it would actually be good. You turn your head to the side, but you still have to look straight ahead at the screen. This strikes me as very unnatural. Anyone have direct experience with something like this?

jeff

I don't have any experience with this yet but I think you are over thinking it.

Most likely you won't be turning your head 90 degrees which would make looking at your screen difficult. Try looking straight on at your screen now and then turn your head just a few degrees to the side while keeping your eyes fixed on the screen.

That few degrees should be enough to " turn " your on screen view to see the track turn or maybe a car coming along side but not enough to make viewing the screen difficult. Think more subtle than extreme. I think it would be pretty cool to be able to sit in the car and move your head to look around the interior.
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post #38 of 611
6/1/11 at 12:49pm
Did that look like a new 360 wheel to anyone else? Kinect head tracking is rad, but I really want MS to start making a wheel again.
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post #39 of 611
6/1/11 at 3:48pm
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Did that look like a new 360 wheel to anyone else? Kinect head tracking is rad, but I really want MS to start making a wheel again.

I think that's the old wheel. It just has some felt or something under the base to keep it from slipping on the glass table top.
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post #40 of 611
6/1/11 at 6:52pm
Definitely the old wheel...
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post #41 of 611
6/6/11 at 12:32pm
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http://jalopnik.com/5808738/how-forz...ulture-forever

it's a really good read. I've just included some snippets.

some clips:

"For starters, Turn 10's re-rendered every single vehicle, ripping the graphics engine down and building it back up. And the results are simply staggering. Polygons per car are up from Forza 3's 400,000 to over one million polygons per car in Forza 4. Turn 10's added real-light changes like blooming and lens flares help make the cars look like they're really in the environment. Forza 4 is achieving in real-time at 60 frames per second what was once something Pixar needed weeks to render."

"Not only has Turn 10 rebuilt the physics engine from scratch, they've also tried to address one of the most glaring problems with Forza 3, the tires. That's why, for enthusiasts anyway, the most important addition to the game is going to be the tire physics. Thanks to a partnership with Pirelli, Turn 10 has completely redone the modeling for tire dynamics. The tire company let them inside their testing system to give the game a soup-to-nuts data download and allow them to directly input it into the game."

"One of the coolest new community features is the ability to create a guild-like car club and then recruit your friends or, really, the best of the best and have the ultimate dream team of drivers, tuners and painters from the "Forza" community. Within each club you'll be able to share your custom cars and then, if you're interested, use them to dominate the other clubs. "
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post #42 of 611
6/6/11 at 1:36pm
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http://jalopnik.com/5808738/how-forz...ulture-forever

it's a really good read. I've just included some snippets.

some clips:

"For starters, Turn 10's re-rendered every single vehicle, ripping the graphics engine down and building it back up. And the results are simply staggering. Polygons per car are up from Forza 3's 400,000 to over one million polygons per car in Forza 4. Turn 10's added real-light changes like blooming and lens flares help make the cars look like they're really in the environment. Forza 4 is achieving in real-time at 60 frames per second what was once something Pixar needed weeks to render."

"Not only has Turn 10 rebuilt the physics engine from scratch, they've also tried to address one of the most glaring problems with Forza 3, the tires. That's why, for enthusiasts anyway, the most important addition to the game is going to be the tire physics. Thanks to a partnership with Pirelli, Turn 10 has completely redone the modeling for tire dynamics. The tire company let them inside their testing system to give the game a soup-to-nuts data download and allow them to directly input it into the game."

"One of the coolest new community features is the ability to create a guild-like car club and then recruit your friends or, really, the best of the best and have the ultimate dream team of drivers, tuners and painters from the "Forza" community. Within each club you'll be able to share your custom cars and then, if you're interested, use them to dominate the other clubs. "
Hmmm, deja vus. New tire physics and all is great, but if it turns back into forza 2 I will be skipping it.
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post #43 of 611
6/6/11 at 9:11pm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/majorne...7626896127512/

Well that's an interesting little official wheel. I don't think I want one and it's a bit disappointing that they don't seem to be bringing back a proper wheel redesign.

http://majornelson.com/2011/06/06/an...s-speed-wheel/
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post #44 of 611
6/6/11 at 9:32pm
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post #45 of 611
6/7/11 at 6:18am
Take a look at MS new weird steering "wheel". Looks like something out of a plane. Not sure how well it does or doesnt work, so I wont even bother commenting on that.

http://gizmodo.com/5809319/microsoft...-cord/gallery/

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post #46 of 611
6/7/11 at 6:35am
It's smiling at me...
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post #47 of 611
6/7/11 at 9:36am
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It's smiling at me...

And if you throw it across the room after losing a race it will come back to you.
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post #48 of 611
6/7/11 at 10:48am
Looks like I'll be getting back into gaming on October 11th.
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post #49 of 611
6/7/11 at 11:59am
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Take a look at MS new weird steering "wheel". Looks like something out of a plane. Not sure how well it does or doesnt work, so I wont even bother commenting on that.

http://gizmodo.com/5809319/microsoft...-cord/gallery/


For a flight sim I think it would be great, for racing.... let's just say now I'm REALLY glad I bought my Fanatec last year.
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post #50 of 611
6/7/11 at 1:28pm
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post #51 of 611
6/7/11 at 3:59pm
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post #52 of 611
6/7/11 at 4:04pm
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post #53 of 611
6/8/11 at 7:39am
Looked like there was some lag. Damn Lag!
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post #54 of 611
6/8/11 at 7:51am
Looks like a few new 360 wheels this fall:

Mad Catz Interactive announced today a new licensed Wireless Force Feedback Wheel for the Xbox 360 video game and entertainment system.

The Wireless Force Feedback Wheel is compatible with all Xbox 360 racing games and is expected to ship in time for the holiday 2011 season.

“Games like Forza Motorsport 4 offer highly realistic driving simulation and we believe that our fully licensed Wireless Force Feedback Wheel will appeal to gamers wishing to replicate an authentic racing experience.” said Darren Richardson, the President and Chief Executive Officer of Mad Catz Interactive, Inc. “Our new licensed Wireless Force Feedback Wheel is a further example of our ability to introduce high quality gaming controllers which offer great appeal to core gamers.”

Mac Catz aren’t the only ones in the race to bring new steering periphreals into the market before the end of the year, as company Fanatec are making two wheels of their own, one of which, it has been rumoured, could retail up as high as $700
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post #55 of 611
6/8/11 at 10:28am
Gamespot has 24 minute demo of the game.

http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6318146...nstration?hd=1
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post #56 of 611
6/8/11 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by darklordjames View Post

http://www.flickr.com/photos/majorne...7626896127512/

Well that's an interesting little official wheel. I don't think I want one and it's a bit disappointing that they don't seem to be bringing back a proper wheel redesign.

http://majornelson.com/2011/06/06/an...s-speed-wheel/

Uggh, that's horrible. That has to be due to Kinect interfacing.

Greg
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post #57 of 611
6/8/11 at 11:34am
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Gamespot has 24 minute demo of the game.

http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6318146...nstration?hd=1

I love developer vids... good get.

this comes out Oct 11? day after my birthday. a mighty fine gift, indeed.
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post #58 of 611
6/9/11 at 9:28am
All I'm going to say is... after watching some of the videos including the 24minute DG interview... I'm back to being super stoked for FM4!!

Apparently there's more to still be announced. I'm glad T10 watch the Top Gear show cuz clearly PD didn't with how they handled the Top Gear Test Track. In one of the videos I saw last night, was a Kia Cee'd (reasonably priced car) on the track from a standing start, not rolling one.

Also, MadCatz and Fanatec wheels were basically unveiled so more wheel options for us. That MS wireless Ushaped dildo with buttons.... meh.
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post #59 of 611
6/9/11 at 10:12am
Man I'm already hooked on FM4. New lighting engine is looking insane. All the new options and whatnot. And you know this is just some of the info. You know they're holding back on us with more info. Some of the stupid speculation about it being a Kinect only game cleared up. (Still can't figure out how someone in their right mind would think steering wheels wouldn't work with FM4)
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post #60 of 611
6/9/11 at 10:16am
It looks like there is a new wheel:

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Forza Motorsport CSR and CSR Elite wheel and pedals hands-on.

If you're a console racer and you own an Xbox 360 then you know Forza Motorsport is among the best, but you also know that your selection of compatible controllers has left a bit to be desired. At this year's E3, which saw Microsoft peeling the protective tape from the bumpers and fenders of Forza Motorsport 4, there was actually an abundance of compatible wheels on display, but it's clear which were the most serious: two new wheels from Fanatec. They're called the CSR and CSR Elite, and there's a new set of pedals to match. Click on through for our detailed impressions.



http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/09/f...dals-hands-on/
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