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post #121 of 180
Just looked at my memory usage and this thing was @ over 1gig!!!
Something bigtime wrong...
post #122 of 180
Fatshaft
http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=599

sometimes too much testing is worse than no testing at all
post #123 of 180
Thank you Chainik
post #124 of 180
Ver. 3.1.1

- fixed memory leak in SVP Manager
- fixed video memory leak ("error 0x3FFFB")
- added bicubic interpolation for motion vectors and masks, works in gpu mode only
post #125 of 180
I tried this out of curiosity as I wouldnt watch a movie like this and it works well which I think may not be bad for movies like Cars, etc. Is there a way to change it to match the display refresh rate.
My projector is set to 48(47.952) and it still tries to do 60 with the script.
I check the avisynth script in ffdshow but didnt find anything that shows how to adjust it.
Thanks
post #126 of 180
That's exactly what "Target framerate" -> "To screen refresh rate" is for.
You can also check detected refresh rates for each screen in tray menu -> "Screen selection" -> "Force...".
post #127 of 180
I did not do my own script, I only installed with the .exe which added a script in the avisynth part.
Great, I will play with it to see how it looks.
Thanks!
post #128 of 180
Is it only using software acceleration? How to enable GPU?
post #129 of 180
it's enabled by default
post #130 of 180
Version 3.1.2 is out.
It's a bug-fix release, most of fixes were already available in "pre-3.1.2" patch.

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= Improved motion interpolation stability (crashes on seek, MVs random errors, etc) (-Vit-, flagger);
+ Added compatibility with latest GPUs and Avisynth 2.6;
- Fixed a lots of SVP Manager errors (interface type changing, etc);
= SVPtube 1.0.2 (improved links detection, proper 3D handling);
= Updated components: MPC-HC 1.6.2.4902, ffdShow rev.4453, Haali Media Splitter 1.11.288.0, LAV Filters 0.50.5.
post #131 of 180
Thanks ! SVPtube is nice. I was just bothered by the fact you had to check the "entire link" checkbox for links to be detected, so I guess that's what you have changed for "improved links detection" ?
post #132 of 180
yeah, it shoud even understand links from facebook to youtu.be, like this one -
Code:
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2F_Rz_Re7JYVs&h=OAQF8AsDrAQFkUkUqi3wtBLBg-yf3LXVVmB4_pT_T88UKLA
post #133 of 180
I love it!

Thanks so much, you did all the work for us! great job. Porn is incredible. Avengers is incredible. Some 720p TV are only so-so (depends on encoding quality). I look forward to trying out some of my Blurays to see how 24p -> 60p works (should it? can I play back a real /legit bluray with MPC-HC now? I normally use my PS3).

I'm interested in figuring out if my 3D Blurays encoded in 24p frame packed will work in 1080p/30 (max HDMI 1.4 input b/w in 3D). Has anyone tried this scenario? There's some 3D options there in the new control panel for SVP. I wonder if 1080i/60 in side-by-side (SBS) would look the same as 1080p/30 frame packed, or better, as a target refresh rate / resolution. Any ideas / tips ?
post #134 of 180
Sorry, just forgot to make an announcement here smile.gif

SVP 3.1.3 (12/30/12)
Quote:
+ 3D stereo pairs support;
+ Ability to choose GPU on multi-GPU hardware configurations;
= Optimized memory usage;
+ Added compatibility with Intel's Ivy Bridge GPUs (HD2500 & HD4000);
+ New frame lighting ("Ambilight") mode;
+ Selection from 10 predefined profiles sets from "Video profiles" menu;
= Improved compatibility with ProgDVB;
= Lots of small bugs fixed;
post #135 of 180
is there any chance SVP will ever work with WMC x64?
post #136 of 180
nope cause avisynth x64 will never be usable

still you can launch any x32 video player from WMC, I guess o_O
post #137 of 180
Edited
post #138 of 180
You can playback Blu-ray with MPC-HC with a decryptor running. I use Slysoft's AnyDVD.
post #139 of 180
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Originally Posted by Fatshaft View Post

Just looked at my memory usage and this thing was @ over 1gig!!!

Something bigtime wrong...

What should it be ?
post #140 of 180
I just downloaded v3.1.3 and tried it out. I run my FW900 at 1920x1200@96Hz, so SVP uses 4:1 FI. With the best quality settings enabled on my 1:1 Blu-ray rips, it looks pretty good. Fast motion still creates significant artifacts, but for slower pans and movement it is very impressive.
post #141 of 180
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Originally Posted by nathanddrews View Post

I just downloaded v3.1.3 and tried it out. I run my FW900 at 1920x1200@96Hz, so SVP uses 4:1 FI. With the best quality settings enabled on my 1:1 Blu-ray rips, it looks pretty good. Fast motion still creates significant artifacts, but for slower pans and movement it is very impressive.

Ya totally impressive with slow panning scenes but horrendous with face panning scenes.
I cannot watch a movie with all the artifacts this program creates.

I wish it wasn't so...cause I love this feature, just toooooo much artifacts for normal viewing.
post #142 of 180
Two things you can do...

1. Get better hardware. SVP is very CPU hungry, and can offload some of it's processing to fast GPUs.

2. Dial down the settings.
post #143 of 180
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Originally Posted by Puwaha View Post

Two things you can do...

1. Get better hardware. SVP is very CPU hungry, and can offload some of it's processing to fast GPUs.

2. Dial down the settings.

My CPU (3570K) isn't even close to being maxed out with all the settings cranked up. I'm not saying that it's bad, it's just the nature of this particular realtime FI technology.
post #144 of 180
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Originally Posted by nathanddrews View Post

My CPU (3570K) isn't even close to being maxed out with all the settings cranked up. I'm not saying that it's bad, it's just the nature of this particular realtime FI technology.

Doesn't sound like it's cranked up.

To quote from the SVP site: "Best settings for picture quality are marked as "default" in video profile settings but they requires high-end system like Core i7 with dedicated video card. So normally the best settings for your system are determined automatically at the installation time."

Check out the SVPMark googledocs spreadsheet. The only CPUs that can max out "highest" settings (above 60FPS consistently with good headroom) are Core i7 Extreme or overclocked higher-end normal i7s (2700K, 3770K, etc.)
post #145 of 180
I tried madVR Jinc3+AR / Jinc3+AR along with SVP Level 5g. My system is Core i5-3570K and HD 7770 (no OC). CPU / GPU usage was

- HD film in a FHD 60Hz display: 30% / 75%
- FHD film in a FHD 60Hz display: 66% / 47% (more CPU usage because of FHD source, less GPU usage because of no image upscaling by madVR)

Most of Level 5g settings are "default", except for:

- Decrease grid step: Disabled (default) -> To small step 6-8 px (more difficult) with FHD source, By two with global refinement (the most difficult) with HD source
- Wide search: Average (default) -> Strongest (the most difficult) with both HD and FHD source

So Core i5-3570K is hardly a bottleneck? Artifacts masking is disabled (by default), but it seems it does not decrease artifacts in fast moving scenes...
post #146 of 180
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Originally Posted by Puwaha View Post

Doesn't sound like it's cranked up.

To quote from the SVP site: "Best settings for picture quality are marked as "default" in video profile settings but they requires high-end system like Core i7 with dedicated video card. So normally the best settings for your system are determined automatically at the installation time."

Check out the SVPMark googledocs spreadsheet. The only CPUs that can max out "highest" settings (above 60FPS consistently with good headroom) are Core i7 Extreme or overclocked higher-end normal i7s (2700K, 3770K, etc.)

Don't know what to tell you, Puwaha. The SVP Index is nearly always at 1.0 and CPU usage never goes over 85%. My GPU (GTX 670) must be doing most of the heavy lifting.
post #147 of 180
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

I tried madVR Jinc3+AR / Jinc3+AR along with SVP Level 5g. My system is Core i5-3570K and HD 7770 (no OC). CPU / GPU usage was

What is "SVP Level 5g"?

Quote:
- HD film in a FHD 60Hz display: 30% / 75%
- FHD film in a FHD 60Hz display: 66% / 47% (more CPU usage because of FHD source, less GPU usage because of no image upscaling by madVR)

FHD film? I'm assuming this had black bars? Try it with a full 1920x1080p frame.
post #148 of 180


5g is the heaviest preset profile. Details



FHD = Full HD = 1920 x 1080, the term used in SVPmark (haven't you seen this?).
Edited by renethx - 5/1/13 at 6:13pm
post #149 of 180
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Originally Posted by nathanddrews View Post

Don't know what to tell you, Puwaha. The SVP Index is nearly always at 1.0 and CPU usage never goes over 85%. My GPU (GTX 670) must be doing most of the heavy lifting.

SVP prioritizes frame smoothness at the expense of artifacts.

I traded in my GTX680 for a 7970 as there were too many artifacts @120Hz on the GTX680 and the render was half the speed of of the 7970, this includes SVP interpolation time.
The low CPU load is a quirk in Nvidia's implementation of OpenCL on the GK104 which seems to suffer high IO latency. GPU-Z says the load is high (>50%) but the temps are quite low, so the GPU is really waiting and not doing useful work. The GPUs can become the bottleneck slowing everything down.

SVP is adaptive in how it uses the GPU, if the GPU processing latency increases, SVP reduces the workload and is one reason artifacts crop up.
Puwaha is correct about a faster GPU if you want to get rid of artifacts.
The other thing is to increase the thread pool, I use 19 threads on mine.

There is considerable difference in the minimum spec for smooth playback on SVP vs smooth and artifact-free playback,

Additionally if the latter instance is important the playback chain must be capable of rendering and presenting frames at 2X the refresh rate @96Hz, this is about 5.5ms
This applies if there is a lot of motion in the scene

Below are 2 screen captures using the same SVP settings. One is the 7970 and the other is a GTX650Ti. The 650Ti shows pronounced ghosting as SVP needed to keep the workload low to avoid frame drops.
The capture is a 1080p clip of 93Million Miles from Jason Mraz posted on Youtube, the car is moving rapidly from right to left.

Radeon 7970


GTX650Ti



Settings
post #150 of 180
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post



5g is the heaviest preset profile. Details

Ah, I see... I've never seen that screen.

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FHD = Full HD = 1920 x 1080, the term used in SVPmark (haven't you seen this?).

There is a difference in a 1920x800 (or less depending on the AR) and a full 1920x1080 resolution. My question was did you test a full 1920x1080 video file? Not one with black bar cropping.
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