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post #1081 of 1120
Approaching this show as a murder mystery, I can definitely understand your complaints about the resolution. However, for some reason (maybe just because I'm weird?), I never really watched it as a murder mystery where I'm trying to discern clues about whodunnit. I just watch this show for the murky atmosphere and the angst of the characters. Thus, this season's finale was gut wrenching because it wrapped up a huge arc in Linden's development. Where she thought she had returned to her roots as a cop's cop, and seemed to be returning to her relationship w/ Skinner, at the end she was betrayed and crushed yet again.
post #1082 of 1120
Gut wrenching for Linden? Sure, she's beyond damaged goods now. Totally ridiculous and contrived? Sure.

Real problem here is same as always, Veena Sud. Won't matter now I think, just waiting for the cancellation notice for this show.
post #1083 of 1120
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

Real problem here is same as always, Veena Sud. Won't matter now I think, just waiting for the cancellation notice for this show.

Hope you're right. If there ever was a show whose time to go had come, it's The Killing.
post #1084 of 1120
I wouldn't mind a new season of 'The Killing', perhaps with a new showrunner, simply because I love the characters of Linden and Holder and wouldn't mind seeing them working on another crime. The problem would be how to extricate Linden from the crime she just committed. They could put a gun in Skinner's hand and claim self-defense, but that would be problematic from both a character and narrative perspective. She's such damaged goods now that her return to the police force really wouldn't make a lot of sense. My guess is it's over. frown.gif
post #1085 of 1120
put the show out of its misery...that way I won't get tempted to watch again if a new season rolls around biggrin.gif

AMC has too many new shows in development...I doubt they're going to give this one another shot
post #1086 of 1120
No season 4 for The Killing. It's over.
post #1087 of 1120
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Originally Posted by hamstang View Post

No season 4 for The Killing. It's over.

hopefully it stays cancelled this time...it was time to pack it in...Season 3 might have been a tad bit better then the Rosie Larsen seasons but the show still had major flaws that didn't seem correctable with Veena Sud as showrunner
post #1088 of 1120
Perfect time to bring back Rubicon with Truxton Spangler, and Chase... Wish it would happen...
post #1089 of 1120
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Originally Posted by Ray Lucca View Post

Perfect time to bring back Rubicon with Truxton Spangler, and Chase... Wish it would happen...

+100. Much better show than 'The Killing', with one of the best intro theme/montages ever. Loved that show! smile.gif Can you believe they didn't even make a shiny disk set? confused.gifmad.gif

I always use 'Rubicon' as Exhibit A of "shows too smart for TV". Can't figure out any other reason why it didn't draw enough of an audience for renewal (according to AMC).
post #1090 of 1120
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+100. Much better show than 'The Killing', with one of the best intro theme/montages ever. Loved that show! smile.gif Can you believe they didn't even make a shiny disk set? confused.gifmad.gif

I always use 'Rubicon' as Exhibit A of "shows too smart for TV". Can't figure out any other reason why it didn't draw enough of an audience for renewal (according to AMC).

I bet it would gather a much larger audience if they started the series today. AMC has so much more exposure and a good rep, that tons of people would give it a shot, and I'm sure many would stick with it. IMO Rubicon came along just a little early.
post #1091 of 1120
If 'Comic Book Men' is considered a hit, then 'Rubicon' would be gold ..
post #1092 of 1120
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Originally Posted by Ray Lucca View Post

Perfect time to bring back Rubicon with Truxton Spangler, and Chase... Wish it would happen...

Speaking of...he was on the last Ray Donavon episode.
post #1093 of 1120
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

+100. Much better show than 'The Killing', with one of the best intro theme/montages ever. Loved that show! smile.gif Can you believe they didn't even make a shiny disk set? confused.gifmad.gif

I always use 'Rubicon' as Exhibit A of "shows too smart for TV". Can't figure out any other reason why it didn't draw enough of an audience for renewal (according to AMC).

there are lots of reasons a show fails...in Rubicon's case I don't think it had anything at all to do with being too smart for TV...there are plenty of smarter shows then that on TV...I don't think AMC marketed the show very well...I didn't watch because I had no clue what the show was supposed to be about and barely saw any advertising for it...plus it wasn't a critical or audience hit...and with a highly serialized show like that if fans don't latch on quick then the chances of it gaining viewers is remote, so Season 2 was all but out of the question...all that factored into Rubicon's demise
post #1094 of 1120
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there are lots of reasons a show fails...in Rubicon's case I don't think it had anything at all to do with being too smart for TV...there are plenty of smarter shows then that on TV...I don't think AMC marketed the show very well...I didn't watch because I had no clue what the show was supposed to be about and barely saw any advertising for it...plus it wasn't a critical or audience hit...and with a highly serialized show like that if fans don't latch on quick then the chances of it gaining viewers is remote, so Season 2 was all but out of the question...all that factored into Rubicon's demise

There are certain shows that the network allows to continue even if the ratings aren't very good. Breaking Bad took a while to find an audience. I don't know if the network sticks with a low rated show because of the demographics or whether a producer has pictures of a network executive in a compromised position. I just wish they would allow good shows to find their audience (thinking Rubicon, not The Killing).
post #1095 of 1120
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There are certain shows that the network allows to continue even if the ratings aren't very good. Breaking Bad took a while to find an audience. I don't know if the network sticks with a low rated show because of the demographics or whether a producer has pictures of a network executive in a compromised position. I just wish they would allow good shows to find their audience (thinking Rubicon, not The Killing).

HBO is the only network that always cares about quality over ratings...a lot of that has to do with their being no advertising (commercials) during any HBO programming...most other networks rely heavily on ratings but there are exceptions for critically praised but low rated shows like Mad Men and Breaking Bad...when you're consistently winning Emmy's for Best Drama, Best Actor etc it's hard to cancel a show...Rubicon had none of that (ratings, critical acclaim or awards)
post #1096 of 1120
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HBO is the only network that always cares about quality over ratings...a lot of that has to do with their being no advertising (commercials) during any HBO programming...most other networks rely heavily on ratings but there are exceptions for critically praised but low rated shows like Mad Men and Breaking Bad...when you're consistently winning Emmy's for Best Drama, Best Actor etc it's hard to cancel a show...Rubicon had none of that (ratings, critical acclaim or awards)

It didn't have time. I can't remember if it had any best drama nominations from the TCA's, Peabody's, etc. It sure should have.
post #1097 of 1120
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Originally Posted by hamstang View Post

No season 4 for The Killing. It's over.

Thank God for small favors! I vowed I would never watch another episode after the disgusting way we got baited by the promise of a mystery to be completed in the first season and then switched to a cliffhanger to be followed by a second season. I came back to the show anyway but always had a love-hate relationship with it, almost perfectly balanced between love for its great stars and decent writing and hate for its sleazy showrunner.
post #1098 of 1120
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It didn't have time. I can't remember if it had any best drama nominations from the TCA's, Peabody's, etc. It sure should have.

Homeland won the Emmy for Best Drama in Season 1...Mad Men the same I believe...Bryan Cranston won Best Actor for Breaking Bad in Season 1...
post #1099 of 1120
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+100. Much better show than 'The Killing', with one of the best intro theme/montages ever. Loved that show! smile.gif Can you believe they didn't even make a shiny disk set? confused.gifmad.gif

I always use 'Rubicon' as Exhibit A of "shows too smart for TV". Can't figure out any other reason why it didn't draw enough of an audience for renewal (according to AMC).
With a few small adjustments I think 'Rubicon' would play well now given the recent revelations about our government checking to see what's in everyone's underwear.
post #1100 of 1120
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With a few small adjustments I think 'Rubicon' would play well now given the recent revelations about our government checking to see what's in everyone's underwear.

Good point. Timely, for sure.

I would think 'Rubicon' would be a good series for Netflix or some other company developing original content to pick up. It's all about attracting demographics and shows like 'Rubicon' typically have small but smart, dedicated followings. You'd start with whatever the audience for the show was, and you might pick up a decent number of new subscribers based on that show alone. Better than taking a flyer on something completely new, I should think.

I don't know if AMC still has the rights to the show but they're clearly not going to do anything with it, not even producing a disk set ferpetesake.
post #1101 of 1120
post #1102 of 1120
That's too bad.

They got the acting. They got the mood. They got the look.
If only they had the story.

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post #1103 of 1120
And another showrunner.
post #1104 of 1120
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

+100. Much better show than 'The Killing', with one of the best intro theme/montages ever. Loved that show! smile.gif Can you believe they didn't even make a shiny disk set? confused.gifmad.gif

I always use 'Rubicon' as Exhibit A of "shows too smart for TV". Can't figure out any other reason why it didn't draw enough of an audience for renewal (according to AMC).

Rubicon is now free on amazon for Prime members so I've just started watching. Only begun the 1st episode but have to agree about the opening montage/theme music. Also get a strong Spooks vibe from the beginning.

How much am I going to be left hanging by the ending? Do they resolve the first season's plotlines?
post #1105 of 1120
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Rubicon is now free on amazon for Prime members so I've just started watching. Only begun the 1st episode but have to agree about the opening montage/theme music. Also get a strong Spooks vibe from the beginning.

How much am I going to be left hanging by the ending? Do they resolve the first season's plotlines?

Sort of. They knew they were cancelled, so they did a quick, unsatisfying wrap-up to the major plotline, but there were still several elements left hanging and you could see where a second season would have gone.

No matter. It's well worth the journey, some of the best TV I've ever seen. smile.gif
post #1106 of 1120
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Originally Posted by leebo View Post

That's too bad.

They got the acting. They got the mood. They got the look.
If only they had the story.

They did - they just chose to quickly veer away from the original storyline of the Danish show.
post #1107 of 1120
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Originally Posted by sneals2000 View Post

They did - they just chose to quickly veer away from the original storyline of the Danish show.

Have you seen the originals season three ending?

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post #1108 of 1120
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Have you seen the originals season three ending?

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Yes - have all three series on Blu-ray and watched them when they were broadcast here on BBC Four. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Sounds like they went back to the original, at least in part, for the US season three ending?

I'm afraid I only survived through part of Episode 1 before realising the US remake wasn't going to be for me. (Lost all the subtlety of the Danish original. Too much dialogue shoe-horned in - rather than leaving the actors, who are obviously very good, and direction to tell some of the story without script. The setup of the main characters was appallingly hamfisted)
post #1109 of 1120
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Originally Posted by sneals2000 View Post

Yes - have all three series on Blu-ray and watched them when they were broadcast here on BBC Four. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Sounds like they went back to the original, at least in part, for the US season three ending?
Yes, Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
the same sort of act of no return in the US version.
post #1110 of 1120
“The Killing” has cheated death for a second time

Netflix has ordered six episodes of what it is calling a fourth and final limited season to wrap up the series that began on AMC in 2011...Veena Sud is back as showrunner of the moody drama that stars Mireille Enos and Joel Kinnaman as Seattle detectives enmeshed in murder cases...

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/11/15/the-killing-netflix-4/
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