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post #481 of 905
I thought Rosie's murderer would be revealed and was only mildly disappointed when it wasn't. I assumed the next season would be another victim's story.

But I'm with you, Archiguy. I enjoyed the show as a whole and will watch it as before (as I'm sure many naysayers will also).
post #482 of 905
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

if you enjoyed the series except for the last episode then there's no reason not to watch Season 2 because they have guaranteed everyone that the killer will 100% be revealed (in the final episode of S2 I believe)...if the bait-and-switch ending was all that bothered most people then they should be happy to know that it will not be the case this season

I wasn't a fan of the ending of S1 but I'm definitely going to watch Season 2 because I want to know who killed Rosie Larsen and why

I take your point that for those who were reasonably satisfied with the arc of the season before its disappointing season finale, it might make sense to give Season 2 a chance before writing it off. I'm not in that category though. I thought the movement of the story slowed down dramatically as the season went on. The shaggy dog season finale was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
post #483 of 905
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I take your point that for those who were reasonably satisfied with the arc of the season before its disappointing season finale, it might make sense to give Season 2 a chance before writing it off. I'm not in that category though. I thought the movement of the story slowed down dramatically as the season went on. The shaggy dog season finale was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

Spot on.
As the season wore on we were treated to red herring after red herring to an extent that it became a joke. After a few episodes, the viewer KNEW that the latest suspect would prove to be a ruse. And the clues were presented in flimsy context. A show's dark aura works if the drama is well done but Killing simply became tiresome and depressing as the writers and producer gave us little else for our time. I hung to the end because I was curious as to the denouement having invested a season's time with satisfaction decreasing markedly from the promising start as the season wore on. The show failed to deliver in many more ways than the abomination of an ending.
post #484 of 905
I liked the show. I actually would have enjoyed the last episode had it not been the last episode of the season. I certainly wanted resolution to the mystery by the end of the season one and I was pretty frustrated to find out I needed to wait the better part of a year to continue the story.

I'll definitely be watching again this year. Hopefully the show won't repeat that mistake again in the future.
post #485 of 905
When Season One ended, I wanted to throw a shoe at my screen .. about the same way I felt when "Lost" ended ..

But, time has passed, and I'll be in for Season Two .. it's shaping up to possibly be a hot summer here in the Mid West, so some of that dark, gloomy Seattle style might be welcome at some point ..

Besides, the cast does a pretty good job .. and at this point, I don't care if the dog did it .. IOW, I've gotten over that shoe throwing moment ..
post #486 of 905
For any that might be interested and missed it, Ralph in the review area has his take up at :

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post21778565
post #487 of 905
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

Besides, the cast does a pretty good job .. and at this point, I don't care if the dog did it .. IOW, I've gotten over that shoe throwing moment ..

'Atta boy! Maybe to make it up to us returning viewers, they'll let Mireille wear a tight sweater this year. Then all those angry drop-outs will be sad & sorry.
post #488 of 905
here's a Deleted Scene from the Season 1 finale...this is part of the DVD/Blu-ray box set...

http://omg.yahoo.com/video/ytv-24572...-28600141.html
post #489 of 905
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

'Atta boy! Maybe to make it up to us returning viewers, they'll let Mireille wear a tight sweater this year. Then all those angry drop-outs will be sad & sorry.

We can only hope ..
post #490 of 905
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

'Atta boy! Maybe to make it up to us returning viewers, they'll let Mireille wear a tight sweater this year. Then all those angry drop-outs will be sad & sorry.

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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

We can only hope ..

Only if they move the story to Los Angeles, those sweaters are basically are a character trait of those who live in cold Scandinavian countries, but more to the point, it's the same sort of sweater that Sarah Lund wears in the original.

But yeah, we can still hope I suppose.
post #491 of 905
nice article about the controversy over not revealing the killer in Season 1 and what to look forward to in Season 2...

"The show now debuts to a chorus of viewers who claim they will stick to their year-old vow to never watch again...executives point to a study they conducted showing that only 1% of viewers from the first season definitively would not watch this year"

I believe that as well...people's anger will subside now that the season is almost underway...

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,7591888.story
post #492 of 905
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

nice article about the controversy over not revealing the killer in Season 1 and what to look forward to in Season 2...

"The show now debuts to a chorus of viewers who claim they will stick to their year-old vow to never watch again...executives point to a study they conducted showing that only 1% of viewers from the first season definitively would not watch this year"

I believe that as well...people's anger will subside now that the season is almost underway...

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,7591888.story

I'll watch so I can continue to bitch and moan about it
post #493 of 905
I'm one of the one percent, I guess. I'm out, but will check in here to see who the killer is. Hopefully, we'll get that answer by the end of season three.
post #494 of 905
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Sure, no prob. I always viewed the show as more about the journey than the destination anyway. I tend to like this serialized sort of thing.

I liked the slow unraveling of the intricate plot, the twists & red-herrings, the atmosphere & mood, Joel Kinnaman's twitch-perfect performance, the way Mireille Enos fills out a bulky wool sweater, and even the glacial pacing and all. that. rain. (God is in the details ~ Mies)

I'd "set my DVR right now", as many here like to say, if only TWC would let me do it more than a week in advance. Looking forward to it, and will be happy to discuss the plot intricacies on these very pages with the other 3 members who didn't get their panties all wadded up by the non-resolution and who also plan to watch S-2. Fill free to bogart our knowledge. When we finally find out....um, what was the big mystery again?....oh yeah, who killed Rosie, ya'll will be the 700,000th to know.


Agree, I very much enjoyed the atmospheric and serialistic nature of the show and am looking very forward to Season 2. I don't quite understand the amount of negative emotion over not revealing the killer in the Season 1 finale, but then again, so many viewers want everything all tied up neatly in a bow.

I think that is the outrage, some folks need a clean ending and that's also why so many things are spelled out in black and white. When in reality, it the shows with shades of grey (characters with flaws) that are most compelling.

My issue with the finale was not the non-reveal but the non-sensical turn of Holden, which contrasted his prior actions. Not sure how/if they can explain that one. The other main issue I had was the whole Darren Richmond/political angle, they never really seemed to fit in and brought down the quality of the show.

But overall, wed efinitely need more shows like "The Killing" IMO, it is the journey not the destination. And it is well done.
post #495 of 905
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

nice article about the controversy over not revealing the killer in Season 1 and what to look forward to in Season 2...

"The show now debuts to a chorus of viewers who claim they will stick to their year-old vow to never watch again...executives point to a study they conducted showing that only 1% of viewers from the first season definitively would not watch this year"

I believe that as well...people's anger will subside now that the season is almost underway...

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,7591888.story

Agree, it is only a small subset of the "superviewer" who will bail on the show because of the non-reveal. Now ratings may likely go down for Season 2, but I'd bet most of it would be for reasons other than the non-reveal.
post #496 of 905
It's been reported that Sofie Gråbøl who plays Sarah Lund (the Sarah Linden character) in the original 'The Killing' (aka Forbrydelsen) is to have a role as a Danish-accented Seattle DA in series 2 of the US remake. (She featured in 'Absolutely Fabulous' as Sarah Lund in a cameo this Christmas over here)

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-...of-the-killing
post #497 of 905
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Originally Posted by sneals2000 View Post

It's been reported that Sofie Gråbøl who plays Sarah Lund (the Sarah Linden character) in the original 'The Killing' (aka Forbrydelsen) is to have a role as a Danish-accented Seattle DA in series 2 of the US remake. (She featured in 'Absolutely Fabulous' as Sarah Lund in a cameo this Christmas over here)

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-...of-the-killing

For those whose haven't seen the original,



Too bad she just can't take over the main role!
post #498 of 905
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Originally Posted by djb5f View Post

... My issue with the finale was not the non-reveal but the non-sensical turn of Holden, which contrasted his prior actions. ... the whole Darren Richmond/political angle, they never really seemed to fit in and brought down the quality of the show.

Exactly! To me, this show was less a police procedural than a (moody and dark) character study and development (with a bit of political intrigue thrown in). TV series rarely show the grief and family destruction caused by this kind of murder, as this one did. I liked the contrast of Sarah's doggedness and determination to solve the crime even though it was costing her dearly (both with her boyfriend and with her son). I really liked the Holder character and character development and was interested to see where and how he ended up.

And even though the political intrigue was facile or murky (at best), at least something different than most TV series was attempted.

The season 1 finale just flushed all of that away. I haven't put it back on the DVR record list, and I don't miss it.

Cliff
post #499 of 905
2 hour premiere tonight!

who killed Rosie?...my guess is the mother
post #500 of 905
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post


Actually, Series 1 aired 10 eps from Jan to Mar, then the final 10 from Sept to Nov, all within the same year so there was only a little over a 5 month break. Series 2 was only 10 eps and ran from Sept to Nov. Both series concluded with resolutions to the crime by their final episodes. Series 3 is due to air in Denmark this Sept, most likely to be 10 episodes as well.

Good to know there will be a season 3. I didn't enjoy season 2 quite as much as the first, but I'll be definitely game.

Is it safe to assume the resolution to the American version will be the same as the original? If so, and the reveal won't be until the last episode, that's really going to drag out this season for me. But I like Kinneman a lot, so that will help.

OT: keenan, have you seen the latest Varg Veum yet? Varg goes international -- a lot of fun. :-)
post #501 of 905
Just watched the premiere and I'm a little confused about something. Holder switched bags for the analysis with "his bag." What bag was that?
post #502 of 905
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Originally Posted by bruce73 View Post

Good to know there will be a season 3. I didn't enjoy season 2 quite as much as the first, but I'll be definitely game.

Is it safe to assume the resolution to the American version will be the same as the original? If so, and the reveal won't be until the last episode, that's really going to drag out this season for me. But I like Kinneman a lot, so that will help.

Impossible to say, this version has deviated from the original on several points already, only the writers could say, plus I wouldn't want to spoil this or the original for those who haven't seen it.

It was nice to see the original "Sarah Lund" although Gråbøl seemed a bit uncomfortable with the lines, it appeared as if she was trying to suppress the Scandinavian accent while some words came out unmistakably accented. I wonder if she'll make any future appearances?
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OT: keenan, have you seen the latest Varg Veum yet? Varg goes international -- a lot of fun. :-)

No I haven't, I'll have to look for it, didn't know the series was still active, thanks.
post #503 of 905
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Originally Posted by bruce73 View Post

Just watched the premiere and I'm a little confused about something. Holder switched bags for the analysis with "his bag." What bag was that?

I didn't get that either, I assumed he went and got a like bag and "conditioned" it to look like Rosie's. Which indicates that he was suspicious of the lab tech before he gave him the original. His suspicion was borne out, although the reason for it at that time seemed pretty thin to me, a bit of round about writing on that.
post #504 of 905
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Impossible to say, this version has deviated from the original on several points already, only the writers could say, plus I wouldn't want to spoil this or the original for those who haven't seen it.

Absolutely. Hopefully they'll keep it original enough to keep it interesting.

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It was nice to see the original "Sarah Lund" although Gråbøl seemed a bit uncomfortable with the lines, it appeared as if she was trying to suppress the Scandinavian accent while some words came out unmistakably accented. I wonder if she'll make any future appearances?

It was. I'm hoping it was only a cameo, sort of in tribute to her and the original, rather than re-occurring, which might get to be a little, I dunno, gratuitous somehow (if that's the right word).

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No I haven't, I'll have to look for it, didn't know the series was still active, thanks.

Just out in the past couple of weeks. You shouldn't have any problems finding it (look for it under the Danish title). ;-)
post #505 of 905
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

I didn't get that either, I assumed he went and got a like bag and "conditioned" it to look like Rosie's. Which indicates that he was suspicious of the lab tech before he gave him the original. His suspicion was borne out, although the reason for it at that time seemed pretty thin to me, a bit of round about writing on that.

Maybe I'm missing something, Holder seemed to grow suspicious when the Lieutenant told him to use a different tech so he substituted his backpack for Rosie's (his pack didn't look anything like Rosie's). Seemed clear to me (again, I could be wrong) that suspicion was the reason he was doing it.

But I am confused about something else: did we actually see Belko commit suicide? All we saw, from the other side of the glass, was his head being blown apart.
post #506 of 905
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Maybe I'm missing something, Holder seemed to grow suspicious when the Lieutenant told him to use a different tech so he substituted his backpack for Rosie's (his pack didn't look anything like Rosie's). Seemed clear to me (again, I could be wrong) that suspicion was the reason he was doing it.

I went back and took another look and, sure enough, the backpack Holder submitted was a generic blue one. I totally missed that the first time.
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But I am confused about something else: did we actually see Belko commit suicide? All we saw, from the other side of the glass, was his head being blown apart.

No, we didn't, just Holder yelling, "No, no!" I thought at first a cop standing behind Holder shot him until later when suicide was mentioned. But after re-watching, Holder's reaction makes sense.
post #507 of 905
What I found curious is the anime character that was in the mirror of Rosies bike...it sure looked like the book her son Jack was reading. Linden seemed to noticed it as well. So Jack knew Rosie maybe?
post #508 of 905
Holder's comment to the bald guy (not sure who he is -Holder's boss?)" the guy she robbed banks with"
----- Huh?
post #509 of 905
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Originally Posted by Karnis View Post

What I found curious is the anime character that was in the mirror of Rosies bike...it sure looked like the book her son Jack was reading. Linden seemed to noticed it as well. So Jack knew Rosie maybe?

It was a tatoo on the person's arm riding bikes with Rosie....I doubt Jack has a tatoo.
post #510 of 905
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Originally Posted by fhall1 View Post

It was a tatoo on the person's arm riding bikes with Rosie....I doubt Jack has a tatoo.

Yea, it's either going to be that Jack is associated with the tattoo in the movie (man, Super 8???) or he's going to be a fount of information.
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