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post #571 of 1120
In the pilot episode, Stan's ATM card was found in the field near the crime scene...was it ever explained how it got there?
post #572 of 1120
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Originally Posted by sneals2000 View Post

And I'm not sure a chemical found in his flat was properly resolved - but that's the nature of the series - lots of lose ends left hanging

I forgot about that chemical...wasn't there some hint last season about there being some sort of serial killer pattern?
post #573 of 1120
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BTW - if anyone here enjoyed the original - there is a great Danish/Swedish co-production called Bron/Broen (The Bridge) set in Denmark and Sweden (near the bridge linking the two countries).

It's just started airing on BBC Four over here - though I'm watching it on Blu-ray. Cracking good drama.

Do you know whether the original version of The Killing is available on BD with English subtitles from any of the European Amazons? When I looked for them at Amazon.uk several weeks ago I could only find the DVD version. I am out of town this week and don't have a convenient way to check again. Using a browser on an iPad 1 in a hotel with a slow wifi connection is not fun.
post #574 of 1120
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Do you know whether the original version of The Killing is available on BD with English subtitles from any of the European Amazons? When I looked for them at Amazon.uk several weeks ago I could only find the DVD version. I am out of town this week and don't have a convenient way to check again. Using a browser on an iPad 1 in a hotel with a slow wifi connection is not fun.

Looks like Forbrydelsen(The Killing) is available in Blu-ray from Amazon Germany but there's no indication of any English subs. France is no, as well as the UK as far as Blu-ray goes. It's titled as "Kommissarin Lund" in Germany. I can't really say that Blu-ray picture quality will make much of a difference over the DVD version as the Danish original is even darker and drearier looking than the USA re-make.
post #575 of 1120
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Looks like Forbrydelsen(The Killing) is available in Blu-ray from Amazon Germany but there's no indication of any English subs. France is no, as well as the UK as far as Blu-ray goes. It's titled as "Kommissarin Lund" in Germany. I can't really say that Blu-ray picture quality will make much of a difference over the DVD version as the Danish original is even darker and drearier looking than the USA re-make.

Now that you have reminded me, I recall that I found the Blu-ray version of the Danish series on the Amazon Germany site. Like you, I couldn't learn whether it had English subtitles so I didn't order it. Does anybody know whether or not this set has English subtitles?
post #576 of 1120
I'm wondering if part of the licensing of the property was to keep the original version out of the US market until maybe at least the end of season 2. IOW, a couple months might see a US version?
post #577 of 1120
I'm convinced now that Stan killed Rosie. They've red herring'd so many other people that only one of the parents as the killer would have any shock value...and it isn't Mitch.
post #578 of 1120
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Originally Posted by Don S View Post

What makes The Killing good IMO is not just the mystery, but the character development. I find the characters to be quite interesting - though not particularly pleasant (no one I would want to hang around). The detectives, the Larson family, etc, all of them are interesting and have been developed nicely over the season + ..

I'm sure this show not for everyone, and yes, the pace is very slow. Not much happens in some shows as some posters have pointed out. All true. But I definitely did not watch the show just to find out "who did it?" even after 1 full season. Would I have liked the show any more if they told us the killer already? No actually. I can watch CSI or the dozen other "who done it" shows if all I want is to guess a killer.

While I agree the case - and the killer - are still the core of the show, what makes it good for me is not that at all, but the characters. Unlikable as they are....


Agree, really enjoying Season 2 much like the first season. I espescially like Holder a lot, flaws or not. That so many of these characters are multi-faceted and developed so well makes it enjoyable. The best shows/movies IMO have a lot of shades of grey; it isn't all black and white.

I too don't care so much about the reveal of the killer, I am just enjoying the journey. Hope there is a Season 3.

Many folks also complained that shows like The Sopranos, The Wire, Boardwalk Empire were too slow and too character-driven as well. Phooey to them!
post #579 of 1120
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

dr. Phil tv schedule


lol :d
post #580 of 1120
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Now that you have reminded me, I recall that I found the Blu-ray version of the Danish series on the Amazon Germany site. Like you, I couldn't learn whether it had English subtitles so I didn't order it. Does anybody know whether or not this set has English subtitles?

Pretty certain that it was dubbed into German - I believe that is quite common with Scandinavian drama that is often co-produced with German broadcasters (ARD and ZDF co-produce a lot) There are at least two Swedish/Geman co-productions with a mixed Swedish/German speaking cast - the Germans are dubbed into Swedish for Swedish TV, the Swedes dubbed into German for German TV...

http://www.amazon.de/Kommissarin-Lun...6173724&sr=8-1 states that both the Dolby and DTS tracks are Deutsch (i.e. German)

Doubt it has English subtitles - but I'm not interested in anything that has been dubbed.
post #581 of 1120
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Do you know whether the original version of The Killing is available on BD with English subtitles from any of the European Amazons? When I looked for them at Amazon.uk several weeks ago I could only find the DVD version. I am out of town this week and don't have a convenient way to check again. Using a browser on an iPad 1 in a hotel with a slow wifi connection is not fun.

Pretty certain there isn't a European BD release with English subs. Don't think there is even one with the original Danish audio - just the German dub?

There are DVD releases which are perfectly watchable. Neither Series 1 or 2 of the show aired on BBC HD in the UK - unlike Borgen 1 and Bron/Broen. (Both of which are available on BD)

Fingers crossed that Series 3 of Forbrydelsen will have a BD release (though Borgen 2 doesn't seem to have...)
post #582 of 1120
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

I've heard about Broen and it's on my list to see but the Blu-ray price is way too high currently at about $75. Also been wanting to see Borgen, and I see the 4th series of Engrenages(Spiral) is due out on disc in the UK in July.

Borgen 1 was great. Different - but very well made. (Apparently every storyline was run past people who do the jobs depicted for real as a form of 'reality check')

I'm half-way through Bron/Broen and it's definitely worth it. It looks beautiful on Blu-ray.
post #583 of 1120
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Originally Posted by sneals2000 View Post

Pretty certain that it was dubbed into German - I believe that is quite common with Scandinavian drama that is often co-produced with German broadcasters (ARD and ZDF co-produce a lot) There are at least two Swedish/Geman co-productions with a mixed Swedish/German speaking cast - the Germans are dubbed into Swedish for Swedish TV, the Swedes dubbed into German for German TV...

http://www.amazon.de/Kommissarin-Lun...6173724&sr=8-1 states that both the Dolby and DTS tracks are Deutsch (i.e. German)

Doubt it has English subtitles - but I'm not interested in anything that has been dubbed.

Thanks for your feedback. I was afraid that the German version would lack English subs. Guess I won't see it after all because I refuse to buy DVDs at this late date. Like you, I also won't watch any foreign film with English dubbing. Yuk!
post #584 of 1120
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Thanks for your feedback. I was afraid that the German version would lack English subs. Guess I won't see it after all because I refuse to buy DVDs at this late date. Like you, I also won't watch any foreign film with English dubbing. Yuk!

Yep - and in this case it's dubbed into German which makes it even worse...

I'm quite lucky, my Swedish is now at a point where I can watch Swedish drama with Swedish subtitles and pretty much cope. I can't cope with Danish pronunciation yet - but Danish subtitles also make a bit of sense.

The other option is to remaster with your own subtitles - which usually involves ripping the DVD/Blu-ray and either downloading English subtitles (often excellent) and remastering, or OCRing the Danish/Swedish and google translating them (better than you might think) I've done this with lots of Scandinavian drama (the first 26 Becks, the Wallander Blu-rays, the second series of Irene Huss, all three series of Ørnen, the Camilla Läckbergs etc.)

I think you'd have to be particularly brave to buy the German Blu-ray AND the Danish DVDs to remaster with the Danish audio AND add English subtitles - and I bet there has been some editing in the German version so it probably wouldn't work.

(** EDIT : Oh - what's the postman just delivered? An Arne Dahl Blu-ray and a Box set of Van Veeterens!**)
post #585 of 1120
Whoa, has everyone given up on The Killing?

I happen to be impressed with this season and IMHO it gets better with each new episode. Sunday night's outing was especially good, with a lot happening (Stan tells Mitch's sister to get lost and then goes proactive for Rosie by appearing at the press conference, resulting in Billy Campbell being cleared as a suspect......Linden and Jack bail on the guys interviewing Jack, so she's "on the lam"...Holder gets beat up (or worse) on the 'res' after Linden gets booted off the island). What more could you ask for?
post #586 of 1120
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Originally Posted by djoberg View Post

Whoa, has everyone given up on The Killing?

I happen to be impressed with this season and IMHO it gets better with each new episode. Sunday night's outing was especially good, with a lot happening (Stan tells Mitch's sister to get lost and then goes proactive for Rosie by appearing at the press conference, resulting in Billy Campbell being cleared as a suspect......Linden and Jack bail on the guys interviewing Jack, so she's "on the lam"...Holder gets beat up (or worse) on the 'res' after Linden gets booted off the island). What more could you ask for?

Nope still watching every week :-). Still enjoying this season as well.
post #587 of 1120
^^^Have to agree. Mrs. Archie & I are enjoying the ever-livin'-daylights out of this season. It's risen to #1 on our DVR list of Most Anticipated Shows. Lot's of new twists and turns - now we can add a Native American gambling conspiracy into the mix. I feel a little bit sorry for the bailers; they've missed out on some good stuff. Their loss.

What's happened to Holder?!
post #588 of 1120
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

^^^Have to agree. Mrs. Archie & I are enjoying the ever-livin'-daylights out of this season. It's risen to #1 on our DVR list of Most Anticipated Shows. Lot's of new twists and turns - now we can add a Native American gambling conspiracy into the mix. I feel a little bit sorry for the bailers; they've missed out on some good stuff. Their loss.

What's happened to Holder?!

No need for the sympathy (though it is appreciated). I'm certain those who have given up are enlightened enough to know what they're doing.

Although I, myself, haven't completely bailed, I doubt missing "The Killing" is much of a loss. As far as I'm concerned this kind of thing has been done just as well or better elsewhere, but if the show can manage to hold your attention then by all means....
post #589 of 1120
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

^^^Have to agree. Mrs. Archie & I are enjoying the ever-livin'-daylights out of this season. It's risen to #1 on our DVR list of Most Anticipated Shows. Lot's of new twists and turns - now we can add a Native American gambling conspiracy into the mix. I feel a little bit sorry for the bailers; they've missed out on some good stuff. Their loss.

What's happened to Holder?!

Agreed, my wife is back in the fold after getting tired of it last year. Holder might have a tough time making that meeting with the maid.
post #590 of 1120
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

^^^Have to agree. Mrs. Archie & I are enjoying the ever-livin'-daylights out of this season. It's risen to #1 on our DVR list of Most Anticipated Shows. Lot's of new twists and turns - now we can add a Native American gambling conspiracy into the mix. I feel a little bit sorry for the bailers; they've missed out on some good stuff. Their loss.

What's happened to Holder?!

I have my suspicions but it would be unfair to those who haven't seen the original yet to elaborate further.
post #591 of 1120
And there are no toll bridges or toll roads around Walla Walla.
post #592 of 1120
So...was the person watching Holder's place the night Linden slept over an oriental or native american? A native american makes sense based on all that happened at the casino, but it was hard to tell with the dark look they gave us. Just trying to figure out if they're throwing something else into the mix or not.
post #593 of 1120
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Originally Posted by fhall1 View Post

So...was the person watching Holder's place the night Linden slept over an oriental or native American? A native American makes sense based on all that happened at the casino, but it was hard to tell with the dark look they gave us. Just trying to figure out if they're throwing something else into the mix or not.

Native American, based on what we saw last week. It's shaping up to be collusion between them and the city's power brokers over gambling interests. Rosie might have found some kind of "smoking gun" and they offed her.

They have the rest of the police department under their control, but Linden and Holder are loose cannons - they probably won't kill them because that would attract undo attention and cops tend to vigorously pursue those who kill their own, so the Evildoers are trying to intimidate them into giving up.

The city police don't have jurisdiction over the Indian casino, which means Linden has to find another way, all the while trying to protect herself, Holder, and her son. At least that's how I see it now.
post #594 of 1120
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Native American, based on what we saw last week. It's shaping up to be collusion between them and the city's power brokers over gambling interests. Rosie might have found some kind of "smoking gun" and they offed her.

They have the rest of the police department under their control, but Linden and Holder are loose cannons - they probably won't kill them because that would attract undo attention and cops tend to vigorously pursue those who kill their own, so the Evildoers are trying to intimidate them into giving up.

The city police don't have jurisdiction over the Indian casino, which means Linden has to find another way, all the while trying to protect herself, Holder, and her son. At least that's how I see it now.

That's how I see it too!

Again, I have really been into the character development, so much so that I wasn't disappointed by the lack of "twists and turns." But this last episode was chock full of action and revelations and now "my cup is full and running over."
post #595 of 1120
tonight's episode was the best one in a long time...lots of answers...they finally explained the chemical on Rosie's fingers, the key which they found among her belongings, the whole Sonoma crap was revisited 1 final time, they finally got rid of her annoying son, Jack...the scene with Stan and the woman who ended up just wanting $$ was very well done

and was it just me or did most of the episode have a postcard type of look to it...beautiful scenery and cinematography (which is not something usually associated with this show)...the audio was also very immersive with nice use of the surround speakers...overall an excellent episode
post #596 of 1120
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

tonight's episode was the best one in a long time...lots of answers...they finally explained the chemical on Rosie's fingers, the key which they found among her belongings, the whole Sonoma crap was revisited 1 final time, they finally got rid of her annoying son, Jack...the scene with Stan and the woman who ended up just wanting $$ was very well done

and was it just me or did most of the episode have a postcard type of look to it...beautiful scenery and cinematography (which is not something usually associated with this show)...the audio was also very immersive with nice use of the surround speakers...overall an excellent episode

I agree with your observations and I also like the budding "chemistry" between Linden and Holder. The PQ and AQ were definitely above average, almost as good as AMC's Hell On Wheels.
post #597 of 1120
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I agree with your observations and I also like the budding "chemistry" between Linden and Holder. The PQ and AQ were definitely above average, almost as good as AMC's Hell On Wheels.

Okay you guys talked me into it. I'm watching this weeks episode tonight!
post #598 of 1120
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

tonight's episode was the best one in a long time...lots of answers...they finally explained the chemical on Rosie's fingers, the key which they found among her belongings, the whole Sonoma crap was revisited 1 final time, they finally got rid of her annoying son, Jack...the scene with Stan and the woman who ended up just wanting $$ was very well done

and was it just me or did most of the episode have a postcard type of look to it...beautiful scenery and cinematography (which is not something usually associated with this show)...the audio was also very immersive with nice use of the surround speakers...overall an excellent episode

+1. And it was directed by Veena Sud. Was this her first? I don't recall any others.
post #599 of 1120
+2

Best ep in a long while!
post #600 of 1120
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Okay you guys talked me into it. I'm watching this weeks episode tonight!

You have more nerve than I do. I have no reason to believe that the latest episodes suck less than the earlier episodes. I do have them on the DVR, but have not been tempted.

I plan to watch the finale
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