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post #961 of 1120
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Speaking of that, from the HOTP thread, 5 Great International Shows That Should Be Streaming

Yeah, I saw that.
post #962 of 1120
I haven't read the thread because of fear of spoilers, but how is this season (i haven't started yet!), do you think it is on par the last 2 seasons?
post #963 of 1120
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I haven't read the thread because of fear of spoilers, but how is this season (i haven't started yet!), do you think it is on par the last 2 seasons?

I think that this season is the best yet. A story that could have been told in a single season was strung out over two, thanks to a new red herring being introduced nearly every week. I have found the storytelling much, much better during Season 3.
post #964 of 1120
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I think that this season is the best yet. A story that could have been told in a single season was strung out over two, thanks to a new red herring being introduced nearly every week. I have found the storytelling much, much better during Season 3.

interesting, thanks. can't wait to get started (literally can't wait as my DVR box is flaking out and I need a replacement). have 2 hour premiere on the PS3 and the next 5 episodes on the DVR. Time to get a crackin... cool.gif
post #965 of 1120
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Originally Posted by StonesCat View Post

You are right, though, the producers signed a deal with Netflix that gave them an exclusive, and after only three months after the season ends. That revenue stream was the key in the Killing's return. Its ratings this year have been equal to a little higher than last year, so who knows if this is the end or not?

The Netflix deal was the reason I started watching it in the first place. When I heard they would offer season 3 only three months after it aired, I decided at the beginning of May, it would be worth starting season 1, on NF streaming. I of course got hooked and watched the entire first two seasons in just a few weeks in order to watch season 3 episodes as they aired rather than wait for them to come to NF.

Here's the details on the efforts to save the show:
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A deal, which is still being hammered out, would be the culmination of a relentless effort by The Killing producer Fox TV Studios to keep the series alive. When The Killing‘s cancellation was announced, the studio vowed to “try to find another home for the show” and talked with a number of potential buyers before zeroing in on Netflix. The talks, which were touch and go for awhile, subsequently brought AMC back into the equation. I hear a strong third-season pitch by series’ developer/executive producer Veena Sud helped get the modestly-rated drama back on the cable network which will now share its The Killing-associated costs with Netflix. Fox TV Studios already had the cast, including breakout stars Mireille Enos and Joel Kinnaman, locked in for Season 3, which also made a renewal an easier proposition. I hear feelers are now being sent out to key behind-the-scene auspices to return, and Season 3 is eying a February production start. AMC, Netflix and FtvS declined comment.

The split window deal for The Killing resembles that for NBC’s critically praised drama Friday Night Lights, which was on the verge of cancellation after Season 2 before the broadcast network partnered with DirecTV. In that case, the satcaster got the premiere run of the show, with NBC airing the seasons a few months later.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/11/killing-tv-series-amc-netflix-season-3-negotiations/#utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
post #966 of 1120
I thought this week's episode was one of the best ever for the show. The first 30 minutes was damned intense. I'm really enjoying this season more and more each week.
post #967 of 1120
Anyone else thinking the killer is a cop?smile.gif
post #968 of 1120
I knew the priest would be a red herring (with 4 episodes to go? of course). The only surprising thing to me was him not committing suicide either by shooting or jumping off the pier. I figured that would complicate the investigation. But at this point, you have to figure the killer is the mom/whore's boyfriend. Twitch isn't competent enough.
post #969 of 1120
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Originally Posted by rebkell View Post

I thought this week's episode was one of the best ever for the show. The first 30 minutes was damned intense. I'm really enjoying this season more and more each week.
I would agree; certainly Mireille Enos' best work.
post #970 of 1120
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Originally Posted by jandron View Post

I would agree; certainly Mireille Enos' best work.

Although her part was somewhat limited, her work in "World War Z" was top notch .. I kept thinking that if Hollywood takes notice, that may make film roles much more lucrative than "Killing" and thus cause an exit ..
post #971 of 1120
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Anyone else thinking the killer is a cop?smile.gif

Actually, my wife offered the opinion it was the bald prison guard. After observing that was something I hadn't thought of I figured his nasty behavior might be a red herring and instead it was the "quiet" guard.

On another point, I was surprised that Linden's radio was muted; every time I've heard a police radio it's alive with traffic. Even if reception could be muted she clearly didn't have the opportunity to do it.

Regardless, I liked the episode quite a bit.
post #972 of 1120
It would be silent with the transmit button depressed, wouldn't it?
post #973 of 1120
Also seems to me that the prison guard is being set up as a possible suspect. The statements from his wife that she fears him, and he vanishes for days at a time. Could be a red herring, but that information was not written in for nothing.
post #974 of 1120
Yea, you're right of course, but did we see her press the transmit button? Regardless, that brings up another point, is there a 'lock' on that button? Look, I don't want to nitpick, good episode.
post #975 of 1120
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Also seems to me that the prison guard is being set up as a possible suspect. The statements from his wife that she fears him, and he vanishes for days at a time. Could be a red herring, but that information was not written in for nothing.
I'm thinking it's the "good guy" prison guard, he's exactly the sort of character that ends up being the bad guy in this show. It will have red herrings all the way until the final reveal. It seems too easy to think he's only there as a foil to the bad guard, who we actually see less of than the good guard. The bad guard will end up being gone so much because he's off fighting his demons about being an executioner or something.
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Yea, you're right of course, but did we see her press the transmit button? Regardless, that brings up another point, is there a 'lock' on that button? Look, I don't want to nitpick, good episode.

I was thinking at the very start when they picked it up that they said it was keyed up or something similar to that, and her partner said that's Linden's radio. She may have used her seat belt to keep the button in, I'd have to look at it again, but can't get to it here at work smile.gif
post #977 of 1120
This week's episode was the best show of The Killing yet, I thought. The scene between the desperate, deranged, preacher, and Linden put my heart in my throat. to call it "intense" would understate the case. I have always admired Mireille Enos' work but she blew me away in her scenes with the preacher. It has taken this show two plus seasons to hit its stride but it is, finally, on a roll.
post #978 of 1120
First half of the ep was great stuff, definitely some of Enos' best work. And then they went back to the prison...

Agree with others' speculation that it's one of the two guards, typical way to throw you off track until the end.
post #979 of 1120
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I think that this season is the best yet. A story that could have been told in a single season was strung out over two, thanks to a new red herring being introduced nearly every week. I have found the storytelling much, much better during Season 3.

Season 3 is better but the same red-herring-of-the-week storytelling still applies...introduce a new supect who cannot be the killer because it's too early...have him ruled out the next episode or 2...move on to another red herring until the real killer is revealed during the final episode

the show is also better watching it in bunches versus week-to-week...I watched the 8 episodes of Season 3 over a 3 day span and it was much more enjoyable versus having to deal with the red herring fakeouts of week-to-week

my guess on the killer: Henderson (the 'good' prison guard or the parole officer who we've barely seen)...hopefully it doesn't end up being Linden's former boyfriend as that would be too far out...they are literally making every male character a suspect this season

I also didn't get the timeline for Annie...she ran away from the pastor's home...was taken by the killer, beaten up, had her finger sliced off...then she ran away and back to that shelter where the pastor showed up and she ran away from him as well until he caught up with her and took her to the animal doctor?
Edited by TitusTroy - 7/17/13 at 5:41am
post #980 of 1120
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Although her part was somewhat limited, her work in "World War Z" was top notch .. I kept thinking that if Hollywood takes notice, that may make film roles much more lucrative than "Killing" and thus cause an exit ..

Just saw that last night, and I agree it was nice to see her in a role more lively (ironically in a movie about the un-dead...)smile.gif
post #981 of 1120
now that was a fantastic episode last night!...best episode of the entire 3 seasons in my opinion...last night's episode was also directed by the great Jonathan Demme...one thing which The Killing has done really well this season compared to the previous 2 was that we got to know the victim(s), so their death(s) had a bigger impact...Rosie Larsen was just a ghost of flashbacks and we only knew her through her friends and family's memories

this season we really got to know the street kids and *spoiler alert for last night's episode* it made Bullet's death much more shocking...so why did Seward's kid falsely identify Joe as being there the night his Mom was killed?...or maybe Joe was there and had an accomplice?...all signs are now pointing towards Reddick as the killer as he was the one who got Bullet's messages from the diner...or maybe the show will throw us a twist and make Ray Seward guilty after all?...either way I'm glad to see the show has learned a bit from its creative flaws with the Rosie Larsen case and is improved this season...probably won't matter though as ratings are horrible
post #982 of 1120
The last two episodes in particular have been great.
post #983 of 1120
Ah, in hindsight this all might be crystal clear, but my thought-of-the-week is that maybe the kid isn't lying: maybe the girlfriend (Danelle, or Danette, or whatever, Kallie's mom) is lying to, among other things, insure Seward's hung. The only reason this even crossed my mind is the scene when she discovers her boyfriend in the trailer: we never actually see her beat up, all we see is her all bloodied in the next scene. I'm wondering if she set up her boyfriend by planting the rings, told him people with guns were after him, or whatever. It really doesn't seem likely as she looks genuinely distraught over the loss of her daughter, but it's the only thing I can think of (warning: preposition at the end).

BTW, agree this season is more compelling (at least to this point, who knows what garbage they might pull in the last two episodes) than the last one.
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my crazy thought of the week is that maybe Seward's son killed his Mom and Ray is just covering up for him by taking the rap?...why else would he have been so willing to stay and die in prison for so long?
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As fair as anything, but then what would you say changed Seward's mind?
post #986 of 1120
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Originally Posted by nlk10010 View Post

As fair as anything, but then what would you say changed Seward's mind?

maybe after speaking to Linden...she now believes he is innocent...so maybe he is just taking advantage of the opportunity to get out of jail and pin the crime on someone else...no one suspects the son...it's a bit of a stretch but the son does have that creepy serial-killer-in-waiting look to him, so who knows...I still don't understand why the son stated that he saw Joe kill his mother if Joe was in Alaska during that time
post #987 of 1120
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

maybe after speaking to Linden...she now believes he is innocent...so maybe he is just taking advantage of the opportunity to get out of jail and pin the crime on someone else...no one suspects the son...it's a bit of a stretch but the son does have that creepy serial-killer-in-waiting look to him, so who knows...I still don't understand why the son stated that he saw Joe kill his mother if Joe was in Alaska during that time

Again, if in fact Joe was in Alaska at the time. Or Ray is a "shape-shifter". smile.gif
post #988 of 1120
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Originally Posted by nlk10010 View Post

Again, if in fact Joe was in Alaska at the time. Or Ray is a "shape-shifter". smile.gif

should be easy enough to check out his story...seems like every male character on the show is a legit suspect this season...there are technically 3 episodes left this season (last episode is 2 hours which is really 2 episodes) so I don't think they are going to reveal the true killer until the final episode
post #989 of 1120
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

should be easy enough to check out his story...seems like every male character on the show is a legit suspect this season...there are technically 3 episodes left this season (last episode is 2 hours which is really 2 episodes) so I don't think they are going to reveal the true killer until the final episode

'Course not. Red herrings are part of the DNA of a show like this. It's all about the journey.

Thought they may have gone a little over the top showing Holder snapping like that. Beating up his partner? Guess it's anger-manifested guilt from him not taking Bullet's calls on his cell. Still, they made a point of showing how Holder had "mainstreamed" this season, his druggie days long behind him, now this loss of self-control. He and Linden are really a dysfunctional team now.

As usual, I'm a little foggy on some of the plotline's subtleties at this point. There is a real killer (Joe) who killed a bunch of girls including poor Bullet, but he's not the real killer of Kallie.

Interesting that the killer on this show cuts off his girl victims' fingers. And currently on 'Dexter', there's a killer who breaks his girl victim's toes. Messing with victims' digits must be the serial-killer flavor of the week this year. tongue.gifeek.gif
post #990 of 1120
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

As usual, I'm a little foggy on some of the plotline's subtleties at this point. There is a real killer (Joe) who killed a bunch of girls including poor Bullet, but he's not the real killer of Kallie.

I don't think a Joe is the real killer. He had no injuries from "killing" Bullet, while Reddick who "found" the rings and has an injury to his hand. He also talked to Bullet and would have been told by her that she knew who the killer was so would have motive for killing her. Maybe he was working with Joe to help hide his porn ring and that's how he had access to the taxi. Also the preview shows the kid telling Linden he saw someone that night leading me to believe he tells the truth next week about who it is.

Obviously all this could be to trick us with red herrings #451,452,453 but I guess we'll see.
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