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post #1651 of 3425
the prices of used sets went back down to $1327 on amazon...I recommend getting them. Is anything is wrong you can call sony for there warranty and more than likely get a replacement.
post #1652 of 3425
"$25 extra for the 3D glasses and all."

Can you link to the page showing this $25 glasses deal? I looked, but could not find it.
post #1653 of 3425
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Originally Posted by iatacs19 View Post

I think I am ready to order a 55NX720 to replace my current LN52A750. It doesn't seem like SONY has anything drastically different lined up for 2012. Amazon's price is decent at the moment with $25 extra for the 3D glasses and all. My only concern is the usability of the Netflix app, is it slow to open and navigate? How good is the Audio Channel Return feature? I will be using with TV with an Onkyo RC-270.

Also, can this TV be mounted on the wall using one of these Samsung mounts?

http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs-...s/WMN2000CX/ZA

(I was thinking VESA mounting points should be the same for any displays.)

There's no reason why you should not be able to do so. All the ports are downward and side facing and this model does not have that bulky box on the back. I have this mount, albeit a non samsung model from Amazon which received great reviews, sadly I have not mounted it yet. I'm in a co-op lease short term and the way my open floor plan is set up is not conducive to picture-frame hang (I need the 20 degrees for the couch to be center of sweet spot).

I would suggest you look at similar mounts on amazon, these mounts are basically braided steel cable and two ABS plastic "pucks". There is no room for adjustment, so you're not paying for engineering just quality of materials; braided cable, strength of plastic and steel mounting points for vesa holes.

This is what I purchased: http://www.amazon.com/VideoSecu-Fash...ref=pd_vtp_e_1

BTW, that Samsung mount can be had for $88 there.
post #1654 of 3425
Back in October I was shopping for a new TV, it was between Samsung and Sony models. I eventually went with Sony, but mainly because of the monolithic design and because Samsung sells so many models I couldn't figure them out.

Well, I'm quite unhappy about my 55NX720... I don't even go into my living room anymore because looking at the Bravia depresses me to no end.

I'm a techie, so picture quality was only part of the deal for me when picking a model. This TV has good picture quality and design, sure... but the apps are a joke, the browser is slower than a computer on a 14.4k modem, the Android and iOS remote apps are problematic - but worst of all DLNA might as well be non-existant, I can't stream anything over my network.

At this point I've made peace with every shortcoming expect that I cannot really stream any videos. I'm on a wired connection on both ends, I have tried both my PC on Windows 7 and MacBook on OSX Lion as streamers, I have used both PS3 Media Server and TVersity to transcode on the host machine...

I still only get a few seconds of video playback at first before the Bravia craps out and tells me the video is unavailable. This is coming off an i7 desktop with a dedicated Radeon card that is hardwired into my home network and I still can't even stream SD files off my PC, so I have no choice but to blame everything on the Bravia.

Please help, I'm not a cable TV kinda guy so not being able to stream anything off my PC makes this expensive TV totally useless for me.
post #1655 of 3425
In the beginning of January a bought a 46NX720 and I was truly happy!
I have been in love with the design since I first saw it in a store in june last year.
At first it gave me and my girlfriend a headache and it became a love-hate about to my new set.

after lowering some settings (recommended by a post in this thread) the headache disappeared.

I was once again really happy about the set and my girlfriend also loved it.
Then to my disappointment I noticed that the gorilla glass was a little loose on the lower left corner on my 46NX720.
I felt forced to take it back to the store and because they was out of stock they couldn´t give me a replacement so I got my money back instead.

I bought a 46CX520 (lcd) instead but didn´t took it home. (in this way I have 30 days to decide if I want it or not)

I did this because they only had one left and to a reasonable price. (CX520 is out if stock everywhere else)
Somehow I felt I didn´t have the energy to buy another LED with the “lottery” it seems to get a “bug-free” set.
(there was however no problem with mine except the glass) but the more you read about LED the more problem it seems to be.

Anyway that was a week ago and I have put back my old 40W4000 and must say I miss my NX720 a lot.

I have been in different stores to check the glass fitting on both NX720, HX820 and HX920
(Swedish model names – may differ from US modell names)
and almost everyone has more or less loose glass.
Therefore I don´t think I “dare” to order anyone of these models.

So my choices seem to be:

1. take home my LCD 46CX520 and try to enjoy that set (without the gorgeous monolithtic design :-( )
2. Or to wait and buy the new HX850 (2012 new model)

Option number 2 will certainly be much more expensive both than option number 1 and my old NX720.
How much do you think the HX850 46” will cost?

How would you do in my position?
(maybe impossible question for anyone else to answer but would much appreciate advice and thoughts about price 46HX850)

Best regards
Kim
post #1656 of 3425
Quote:
Originally Posted by JosDewey View Post

Back in October I was shopping for a new TV, it was between Samsung and Sony models. I eventually went with Sony, but mainly because of the monolithic design and because Samsung sells so many models I couldn't figure them out.

Well, I'm quite unhappy about my 55NX720... I don't even go into my living room anymore because looking at the Bravia depresses me to no end.

I'm a techie, so picture quality was only part of the deal for me when picking a model. This TV has good picture quality and design, sure... but the apps are a joke, the browser is slower than a computer on a 14.4k modem, the Android and iOS remote apps are problematic - but worst of all DLNA might as well be non-existant, I can't stream anything over my network.

At this point I've made peace with every shortcoming expect that I cannot really stream any videos. I'm on a wired connection on both ends, I have tried both my PC on Windows 7 and MacBook on OSX Lion as streamers, I have used both PS3 Media Server and TVersity to transcode on the host machine...

I still only get a few seconds of video playback at first before the Bravia craps out and tells me the video is unavailable. This is coming off an i7 desktop with a dedicated Radeon card that is hardwired into my home network and I still can't even stream SD files off my PC, so I have no choice but to blame everything on the Bravia.

Please help, I'm not a cable TV kinda guy so not being able to stream anything off my PC makes this expensive TV totally useless for me.

Maybe get a $99 Apple TV? That should stream wonderfully.

I bought this TV for satellite and bluray so I never use the internet apps and I love it when using as a display device and not a network hub.
post #1657 of 3425
I like the apps for YouTube, Amazon and Pandora (and Netflix before I cancelled it)... but if you're serious about streaming movies off a PC then you should really look into some kind of HTPC set-up using XBMC or similar software. I hooked up my desktop computer in another room to my TV with a 50' HDMI cable and run XMBC in the background and it works wonderfully. Depending on your layout, you could do something similar or invest in standalone HTPC. You can even load an Apple TV with the software, but it will only go up to 720p.
post #1658 of 3425
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Originally Posted by millerrh View Post


Maybe get a $99 Apple TV? That should stream wonderfully.

I bought this TV for satellite and bluray so I never use the internet apps and I love it when using as a display device and not a network hub.

I use the tv just as a display as well. I don't think we are quite there yet where a tv is going to replace a media steaming device/computer and handle all the different formats. For netflix I use the xbox, I like the interface better. For streaming movies, mkv, divx, etc. I use a western digital tv live box. All my videos are on a hard drive connected to my linksys e4200 router, that way I dont have to leave my pc on. This setup works well for me.
post #1659 of 3425
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Originally Posted by Musicbiz View Post

"$25 extra for the 3D glasses and all."

Can you link to the page showing this $25 glasses deal? I looked, but could not find it.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004ZP7UDQ/...m&linkCode=as1

Add that to your cart and then on the checkout page you will see the $75 off promo. Make sure the seller is Amazon and not a 3rd party. Good luck!
post #1660 of 3425
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Originally Posted by iatacs19 View Post

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004ZP7UDQ/...m&linkCode=as1

Add that to your cart and then on the checkout page you will see the $75 off promo. Make sure the seller is Amazon and not a 3rd party. Good luck!

I tried that (Amazon LLC is the seller) and don't see any discount offered on the checkout page... It's still $101.

Maybe someone else will have different results, but that didn't work for me (even with the fatwallet referral code in the link...)
post #1661 of 3425
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Originally Posted by bakerzdosen View Post

I tried that (Amazon LLC is the seller) and don't see any discount offered on the checkout page... It's still $101.

Maybe someone else will have different results, but that didn't work for me (even with the fatwallet referral code in the link...)

It seems to be working:
LL
post #1662 of 3425
Quote:
Originally Posted by iatacs19 View Post

It seems to be working:

(I don't know why I even care about this, we've already purchased the only 55nx720 we're going to purchase...)

Yeah, that was my fault. The GLASSES/Narnia bundle were coming from Amazon, but when I just quickly added the 55nx720, it added it from Vanns.
post #1663 of 3425
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Originally Posted by millerrh View Post

Maybe get a $99 Apple TV? That should stream wonderfully.

I bought this TV for satellite and bluray so I never use the internet apps and I love it when using as a display device and not a network hub.

AppleTV or some of the other boxes are what Dewey needs.

In my case, I use TVMOBILY (free download) with Lion and iMac. It works well for the occasional movie or iTube video we watch, hooked to my 2010 Sony 60EX700 via Cat5 wire.
post #1664 of 3425
kdl46nx720 avail through bestbuy for $999 right now...
post #1665 of 3425
Thanks for the responses guys, you work quick around here!

You guys are right that if I'm after apps or internet stuff a cheap box added to my setup will be much better than any TV's built-in offerings, but I still can't help and think if I had gone with a Samsung I would end up with better techie stuff as theirs do seem a lot less half-baked.

Anyway, the reason I haven't bought a separate device for streaming is I guess I want to find something to like about my NX720 aside from the picture quality - I want to believe Sony didn't throw in this stuff as pure gimmicks?

The fact that the knowledgeable guys in this thread right away told me to get a separate box, the fact that the TV often can't even display simple photos or native SD videos all points to Sony basically just lying about DLNA support. I hope I'm wrong but it looks that way sadly.
post #1666 of 3425
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Originally Posted by JosDewey View Post

Thanks for the responses guys, you work quick around here!

You guys are right that if I'm after apps or internet stuff a cheap box added to my setup will be much better than any TV's built-in offerings, but I still can't help and think if I had gone with a Samsung I would end up with better techie stuff as theirs do seem a lot less half-baked.

Anyway, the reason I haven't bought a separate device for streaming is I guess I want to find something to like about my NX720 aside from the picture quality - I want to believe Sony didn't throw in this stuff as pure gimmicks?

The fact that the knowledgeable guys in this thread right away told me to get a separate box, the fact that the TV often can't even display simple photos or native SD videos all points to Sony basically just lying about DLNA support. I hope I'm wrong but it looks that way sadly.

My opinion (that others may not agree with) is that all of these apps are just gimmicks. TV makers will never get their apps to be even close to what a computer or iPad can do. The ONLY thing that makes them even a little bit worthwhile is if they have streaming from Netflix/etc. and from my computer/iPad. I could not care less when there is a software update to these TVs bringing more internet apps. They all suck.

A TV is a display device. It's OK to not buy in to all these gimmicky apps that are so much slower and more awkward to use than your computer.

I'd rather spend my money on the best display device and if I want streaming that works well, invest in something that does that well, like an Apple TV. Would it be cool if the ease of use and usefulness of an Apple TV was baked into the display itself, sure. But until they get it as good, I'll probably turn to third party devices anyway for what I want to do simply because they work better and are not that expensive.
post #1667 of 3425
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Originally Posted by chrisedwards85 View Post

I recently purchased a KDL46NX720. I've had it for about a week or so and I'm loving it. Unfortunately, I noticed yesterday a very small 3-4 inch scratch on the Gorilla Glass. I'm not sure how it happened but it's irking the sh*t out of me. Does anyone know any way to buff out this very small scratch?

Thoughts? Opinions?

Wii controller maybe? I disconnected and packed away the Wii the day I got my new Sony. Not taking any chances.
post #1668 of 3425
Dewey,

I don't think Sony is lying about DLNA support. A lot of people here use it with some degree of success. But those people happen to be using Windows. My Bravia TV does not support Apple OS. That much I have gathered. However, in our case, we have gone around the problem by using a free app called TVMOBILY and with it, we can view the photos on iPhoto, we can stream movies from Qriocity, Amazon and any of the apps that Sony has placed on our TV.

Here's another way around the problem. Get a Blue-ray player from Samsung and with TVMOBILY, you will have access to all the Samsung apps that come with the Blue-ray player.

Good luck, friend.
post #1669 of 3425
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Originally Posted by millerrh View Post

My opinion (that others may not agree with) is that all of these apps are just gimmicks. TV makers will never get their apps to be even close to what a computer or iPad can do. The ONLY thing that makes them even a little bit worthwhile is if they have streaming from Netflix/etc. and from my computer/iPad. I could not care less when there is a software update to these TVs bringing more internet apps. They all suck.

A TV is a display device. It's OK to not buy in to all these gimmicky apps that are so much slower and more awkward to use than your computer.

I'd rather spend my money on the best display device and if I want streaming that works well, invest in something that does that well, like an Apple TV. Would it be cool if the ease of use and usefulness of an Apple TV was baked into the display itself, sure. But until they get it as good, I'll probably turn to third party devices anyway for what I want to do simply because they work better and are not that expensive.

Don't forget Skype. My wife uses the built-in Skype app with the add-on camera at least 1 hour every day. It works pretty well. It's occasionally buggy and much prefers wired over wi-fi connections, but for the most part it's great to have.

I do admit the apps on the TV are mostly a joke though. But in this case, Skype has such a low bar for client quality on ANY platform that the fact that it works 95% of the time on the TV is at least noteworthy for any potential buyer (who uses Skype a lot).
post #1670 of 3425
Quote:
Originally Posted by JosDewey View Post

Well, I'm quite unhappy about my 55NX720... I don't even go into my living room anymore because looking at the Bravia depresses me to no end.

I'm a techie, so picture quality was only part of the deal for me when picking a model. This TV has good picture quality and design, sure... but the apps are a joke, the browser is slower than a computer on a 14.4k modem, the Android and iOS remote apps are problematic - but worst of all DLNA might as well be non-existant, I can't stream anything over my network.

At this point I've made peace with every shortcoming expect that I cannot really stream any videos. I'm on a wired connection on both ends, I have tried both my PC on Windows 7 and MacBook on OSX Lion as streamers, I have used both PS3 Media Server and TVersity to transcode on the host machine...

I still only get a few seconds of video playback at first before the Bravia craps out and tells me the video is unavailable. This is coming off an i7 desktop with a dedicated Radeon card that is hardwired into my home network and I still can't even stream SD files off my PC, so I have no choice but to blame everything on the Bravia.

Please help, I'm not a cable TV kinda guy so not being able to stream anything off my PC makes this expensive TV totally useless for me.

For a self proclaimed techie, you seem to be blaming the wrong component. My new sony streams like a mother. The interface is fast too. I have no complaints in this area.
post #1671 of 3425
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Originally Posted by Dave1027 View Post

For a self proclaimed techie, you seem to be blaming the wrong component. My new sony streams like a mother. The interface is fast too. I have no complaints in this area.

When I used to stream copyrighted content to my old TV I would get a few seconds of video and then it would "crap out". Turns out that in order for me to stream to a second display or screen such as a TV, I had to blank out my laptop screen by shifting output to HDMI vs screen. It drove me nuts until I finally figured it out through extensive trial and error.

Since you may potentially be streaming content devoid of any digital rights management software, this is probably not the issue but it hit close to home so I figured I'd share.

FYI, the Sony skype cam can be had on ebay for $59 currently: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Skype-W...68660.m2000036

FYI, I'm posting this because the thread touched upon Skype and this price is significantly less than other sources.
post #1672 of 3425
Have to just weigh in here as well. While the mfr's just keep adding the "extra's" to keep the prices high - they really are for the most part gimmicks to me as well. I don't expect any of them to work - although they should work for those that expect them since they are advertised and touted. They are half baked at best, everyone wants to put their own spin on browers and interfaces and none of them really get the development attention they need to make them worth anything. I'm old school here - I just want my TV to display a picture, want the receiver and speakers to play the sound. I don't want to toss the TV when something that isn't part of displaying a picture breaks. It's just a way to rape the consumer in my book. As for streaming and music I've moved to Apple TV as well - for only $99 - it is the best money I've spent in any of my gear. All of this is personal preference to everyone however.
post #1673 of 3425
Hello all,

I've been looking into the nx720 and was basically set on picking it up until I read the last few pages of this thread and noticed a trend of reports regarding the gorilla glass becoming detached from the panel. Is this issue isolated to a few unlucky individuals, or does it seem inevitable for all of these sets at some point? This TV is basically perfect for my needs, but I would be inclined to look for a different model if It seems like I will be dealing with the detachment issue in the relatively near future. So what is the general consensus on this, is it becoming a trend, or does it seem like a rare manufacturing defect that is isolated to a few sets? Any insight would be greatly appreciated, as I was looking to pull the trigger on this TV this weekend.
post #1674 of 3425
Quote:
Originally Posted by pacowles View Post

Hello all,

I've been looking into the nx720 and was basically set on picking it up until I read the last few pages of this thread and noticed a trend of reports regarding the gorilla glass becoming detached from the panel. Is this issue isolated to a few unlucky individuals, or does it seem inevitable for all of these sets at some point? This TV is basically perfect for my needs, but I would be inclined to look for a different model if It seems like I will be dealing with the detachment issue in the relatively near future. So what is the general consensus on this, is it becoming a trend, or does it seem like a rare manufacturing defect that is isolated to a few sets? Any insight would be greatly appreciated, as I was looking to pull the trigger on this TV this weekend.

It may not e a trend but it is def something to look for. I think it is due to the pressure applied to the glass when held on the sides. I noticed its happens exactly where you would hold it if your one person moving or lifting the tv, in the middle. It seems thats where everyone glass is getting detached from I kinda heard a cracking noise when I did it today.

Honestly, I don't think it would be a problem in the long run. Since my replacement is coming on saturday I decided to see how bad an issue the was with the glass. The detachment of my glass was minor and it seem like it would not effect it over the years. The rest of the glass along the side seem to be holding up very strong. Unless your constantly moving the tv or not lifting it from the lower bottom or upper top the glas should be fine.

Honestly, I would have still kept this tv if I had to.
post #1675 of 3425
Quote:
Originally Posted by pacowles View Post

Hello all,

I've been looking into the nx720 and was basically set on picking it up until I read the last few pages of this thread and noticed a trend of reports regarding the gorilla glass becoming detached from the panel. Is this issue isolated to a few unlucky individuals, or does it seem inevitable for all of these sets at some point? This TV is basically perfect for my needs, but I would be inclined to look for a different model if It seems like I will be dealing with the detachment issue in the relatively near future. So what is the general consensus on this, is it becoming a trend, or does it seem like a rare manufacturing defect that is isolated to a few sets? Any insight would be greatly appreciated, as I was looking to pull the trigger on this TV this weekend.

i've already called sony service center on monday and the customer service rep. told me that they will call me back when they have the time to schedule and take a look at the detached gorilla glass. up to now no call back...
post #1676 of 3425
Anyone has a idea of the price on the new 46HX850?
post #1677 of 3425
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Originally Posted by jwb1 View Post

FYI, here are my new calibration settings. I have also updated my original post.

I used the THX Optimizer on the T2 Blu-Ray.

Home menu>Settings>Picture & Display

--Picture Adjustments menu--
Setting Memory: [current]
Picture Mode: Cinema 1
Backlight: 5 (personal preference - I wouldn't go any lower than 5)
Picture: Max
Brightness: 45 (THX recommended 40-42, but I thought it was too dark, personal preference)
Color: 55
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Warm 1
Sharpness: 40
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Dot noise reduction: Off
Motionflow: Off
CineMotion: Off

-Advanced Settings submenu-
Black Corrector: Low
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Low
Gamma: 0
LED Dynamic Control: Standard
Auto Light Limiter: Off
Clear White: Off
Live Color: Off
Detail Enhancer: High
Edge Enhancer: Low (Any higher and I noticed artifacts on certain objects on screen)
Skin Naturalizer: Off [grayed out]
i/p Conversion Preference: Quality [grayed out]

--Screen menu--
Setting Memory: [current]
Wide Mode: Full
Auto Wide: Off
4:3 Default: Off [grayed out]
Auto Display Area: Off
Display Area: Normal (Full Pixel is best, but for certain content that are still behind the times, Normal is best)
Screen Position: [grayed out]
Vertical Size: 0 [grayed out]

--Pro Picture Setup menu--
[all settings default/Auto]

--Home Menu>Settings>Preferences--

--Scene Select menu--
Cinema

--Eco menu--
Power Saving: Off
Light Sensor: Off

--Sound menu--
Audio is set to External

--Hookups--
PS3 HDMI
XBOX 360 HDMI
Satbox HDMI
Wii Component

I don't have "Cinema 1" I don't understand??
post #1678 of 3425
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Originally Posted by kimme87 View Post

Anyone has a idea of the price on the new 46HX850?

Here you go bud it's a thread that's a few pages ahead titled Sony 2012 pricing.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1392212
post #1679 of 3425
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Originally Posted by JimmmyD View Post

I don't have "Cinema 1" I don't understand??

You need to do this part first:
Quote:
--Home Menu>Settings>Preferences--

--Scene Select menu--
Cinema

I tried the settings and me/wife felt everything seemed a bit dark and greenish.
post #1680 of 3425
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Originally Posted by ReDs View Post

Here you go bud it's a thread that's a few pages ahead titled Sony 2012 pricing.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1392212

Thanks!

That means that it will be a big price difference between my choices 

As I wrote in a earlier post I had a 46NX720 (but returned it due to loose gorilla glass) but apart from that I loved it.

Now I can´t decide what to do.


1. 46CX520 - Try a old school lcd (CCFL)
2. 46NX720 - Try another 46NX720 (unfortunately more expensive this time)
3. 46HX850 - wait and hope for a better mounting on the gorilla glas (hopefully also better PQ)
only downside is much more expensive than the other two and also don´t know when it is coming to sweden.

anyone have an option?

Best regards

Kim
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