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post #121 of 2142
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Originally Posted by zigzag666 View Post

I have been attempting to get ARC to work between my HDTV and the 671. It would appear that ARC is enabled on the TV and the 671, but I don't hear TV audio through the 671. Has anyone been able to get ARC to work? What input setting should be selected (or does it matter)? Does the ARC only work for HDMI sources or does TV audio feed back to the receiver as well?

Your television must support ARC. On a television that supports ARC, there is usually one HDMI connector dedicated to ARC. Be sure to use that one. Use ARC to pump audio from your television's tuner (for example, when your television is connected to an antenna) without attaching an optical cable. ARC is also useful for pumping audio to the AVR from networked based applications such as Pandora that your television supports.
post #122 of 2142
Has anyone else encountered the iPod no longer being detected by the USB port? I had to restore my receiver to factory to fix it the first time, and it just happened again. With what I paid for this unit, I shouldn't have to reconfigure it every 6-8 weeks to use a basic function.
post #123 of 2142
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Originally Posted by zanth99 View Post

Has anyone else encountered the iPod no longer being detected by the USB port? I had to restore my receiver to factory to fix it the first time, and it just happened again. With what I paid for this unit, I shouldn't have to reconfigure it every 6-8 weeks to use a basic function.

I see there's firmware update (1.13) for this unit. Perhaps it addresses your issue.
post #124 of 2142
There is? Huh, I just checked on my receiver this weekend and it didn't have the notification.... *checks* and it still doesn't. Good to know that the network update thing works. :P

Thanks for the heads up tho! Off to the website!

Edit: Awesome, after singing up for the required EasyPass thing it promptly tells me my password is incorrect and won't let me login, and thus can not download. Thankfully the Advanced Mode Network Update seems to be doing something, it says S1: x.x%, so I'm guessing its downloading.
post #125 of 2142
Just got a great deal for my v671 today ( with price matching and 5% additional discount at HHGREGG .... $379!!!!)
I had an old yamaha receiver that I got my harmony to run cable, appletv, ps3 , and receiver. When I went in to add this receiver, it wasn't in h
Logitech's data base. Should I/ could I use the v670 remote or should I try the teach function it suggests?
I went to app store, there were a couple for yamaha , not sure which one to use?
Any help on either front!
Thanks so much for any help in advance,
Brutus
post #126 of 2142
Regarding ARC, I have now spoken to Vizio who claims ARC is supported on the XVR323SV on all of the HDMI ports, and Yamaha who tells me I must set the 672 to AV4 (the default port for ARC).

Well I have some interesting results. When my TV is on, all audio from the 671 routes through the TV speakers. When the TV is turned off, the audio resumes from the 671. In neither case does the TV audio get back to the 671 via ARC.

The TV is updated to the latest FW and as far as Yamaha can tell me, there are no FW updates for the 671.
post #127 of 2142
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Brutus63 View Post

When I went in to add this receiver, it wasn't in Logitech's data base.

My Harmony 1 was already programmed for the RX-V663 and I didn't change a thing - works fine.
post #128 of 2142
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Originally Posted by Brutus63 View Post

Just got a great deal for my v671 today ( with price matching and 5% additional discount at HHGREGG .... $379!!!!)
I had an old yamaha receiver that I got my harmony to run cable, appletv, ps3 , and receiver. When I went in to add this receiver, it wasn't in h
Logitech's data base. Should I/ could I use the v670 remote or should I try the teach function it suggests?
I went to app store, there were a couple for yamaha , not sure which one to use?
Any help on either front!
Thanks so much for any help in advance,
Brutus

The iOS ap is the one called Yamaha AV Controller its v1.02 currently.

And with my above issue, the 1.13 firmware did download via the Advance Network Firmware deal and my iPod works again.
post #129 of 2142
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Originally Posted by cavu View Post

My Harmony 1 was already programmed for the RX-V663 and I didn't change a thing - works fine.


Thanks!!
post #130 of 2142
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Originally Posted by DR.DTS View Post

Anyone using a Harmony on the 671 yet? I've ordered a "700" which based on what I was aiming for, was recommended over at the RX-V671/771 thread. And any tips on setting a Harmony up with the AVR (first time using one by the way).


Kenny J

Any luck yet,,, I'm trying to set up my harmony 650 to control my RX-V671
No luck so far
post #131 of 2142
Thanks, works fine!
iPhone app that is!
post #132 of 2142
I've run into a snag running YPAO. I'm using a 7.1 w/Presence frts. My two front speakers are "large"...not huge tall ones but large. My surrounds and presence speakers are small.

When I run YPAO everything shows up fine except for two issues...
It detect my main fronts as "small"...
It puts my subs crossover at 200hz...

Granted the sub ain't no powerhouse...Boston 8"...but for the space it does good enough. It doesn't have a built in crossover and I've tied the volume three different ways, 1/3, 1/2 and 2/3. And yes I hear it during setup I've tried the default setting and 60hz. But the small sats during setup sound louder. And no idea why the "large frts" keep showing up as small.


Kenny J
post #133 of 2142
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Originally Posted by zigzag666 View Post
Regarding ARC, I have now spoken to Vizio who claims ARC is supported on the XVR323SV on all of the HDMI ports, and Yamaha who tells me I must set the 672 to AV4 (the default port for ARC).

Well I have some interesting results. When my TV is on, all audio from the 671 routes through the TV speakers. When the TV is turned off, the audio resumes from the 671. In neither case does the TV audio get back to the 671 via ARC.

The TV is updated to the latest FW and as far as Yamaha can tell me, there are no FW updates for the 671.
Turn your AVR on last and see what happens. Also, you might consider reviewing ARC and HDMI Control in your OM. As for ARC, is your television connected to an antenna? Are you accessing a television application such as Pandora and attempting to deliver its audio to the AVR? Additionally, What equipment do you have and how is it connected?

Is your firmware version 1.13? If not, you don't have the latest release.
post #134 of 2142
I can't find the Index in the English versions of the 671 OM. Anybody else have this problem? If it's in there, where is it?
post #135 of 2142
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Originally Posted by DR.DTS View Post
...When I run YPAO everything shows up fine except for two issues...
It detect my main fronts as "small"...
It puts my subs crossover at 200hz...

Granted the sub ain't no powerhouse...Boston 8"...but for the space it does good enough.
The crossover frequency is determined by how low the main speakers can play, not by what what sub you have.

Since the 671 can only use a single global crossover frequency, YPAO is probably picking 200Hz because you have very small surround speakers (the crossover is chosen according to the smallest speakers).

Normally it's recommended to set all speakers to "small", but in this case when your surrounds speakers are much smaller than your fronts that might not work too well. 200Hz is no good for the fronts, but much lower than that might not be good for the surrounds.

So this could be a case for setting the fronts to "large" manually (in which case the crossover is not used). Or you might find that 100 to 120Hz or so still works OK with all speakers "small". What are the specs on the speakers (the frequency range in particular)?
post #136 of 2142
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Originally Posted by DR.DTS View Post
Anyone using a Harmony on the 671 yet? I've ordered a "700" which based on what I was aiming for, was recommended over at the RX-V671/771 thread. And any tips on setting a Harmony up with the AVR (first time using one by the way).


Kenny J
Any luck yet?
post #137 of 2142
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Originally Posted by DR.DTS View Post

I've run into a snag running YPAO. I'm using a 7.1 w/Presence frts. My two front speakers are "large"...not huge tall ones but large. My surrounds and presence speakers are small.

When I run YPAO everything shows up fine except for two issues...
It detect my main fronts as "small"...
It puts my subs crossover at 200hz...

Granted the sub ain't no powerhouse...Boston 8"...but for the space it does good enough. It doesn't have a built in crossover and I've tied the volume three different ways, 1/3, 1/2 and 2/3. And yes I hear it during setup I've tried the default setting and 60hz. But the small sats during setup sound louder. And no idea why the "large frts" keep showing up as small.


Kenny J

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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

The crossover frequency is determined by how low the main speakers can play, not by what what sub you have.

Since the 671 can only use a single global crossover frequency, YPAO is probably picking 200Hz because you have very small surround speakers (the crossover is chosen according to the smallest speakers).

Normally it's recommended to set all speakers to "small", but in this case when your surrounds speakers are much smaller than your fronts that might not work too well. 200Hz is no good for the fronts, but much lower than that might not be good for the surrounds.

So this could be a case for setting the fronts to "large" manually (in which case the crossover is not used). Or you might find that 100 to 120Hz or so still works OK with all speakers "small". What are the specs on the speakers (the frequency range in particular)?

The fronts are PSB 500i Centuryi. The speacs are...
Freq range...50-20,000
LF Cutoff...32Hz
Woofer...8"
Tweeter...3/4Textile Dome with Ferrofluid

I set up the speakers manually using the "results" from the YPAO...Distance and Level. I set the fronts to "large' and set the crossover at default (80Hz).

I played a bit last night but no much, just radio setup and it was ok but still not enough "umph". I did throw in "Eagles...Hell Freezes Over" DVD DTS and it sounded great and more even out. I'll try some more variations tonight. Reading the manual I might also try "Extra Bass" mode to see what I get thru the large fronts.

Ona side note I did get the Xbox 360 with component cable in working just fine. I had to change the video output in the 360 settings from 1080p to 1080i and frankly cannot see much difference. I'll play a game and see.


And no, still haven't tried the new harmony 700 yet. To busy getting used to this. Do like the on-line menu layout and navigation.


Kenny J
post #138 of 2142
Is t at all possible to hook a keyboard to this rexiever? Using Napster with a harmony 1100 and an RF extender is just painful!
post #139 of 2142
CBHPI: Thank you for your interest in my ARC problems. Here are the answers to your questions

1) "Turn your AVR on last and see what happens." Will try this over the weekend, but at the moment if memory serves - CEC turns the receiver on automatically when the TV is powered up, so I don't think I have manual control of this with the current CEC settings

2) "Also, you might consider reviewing ARC and HDMI Control in your OM" Have already, and neither owners manual is very informative. I did see the A/V 4 default setting and tried that

3) "As for ARC, is your television connected to an antenna?" Yes it is, as well as HDMI (ARC) for Bluray and Satellite

4) "Are you accessing a television application such as Pandora and attempting to deliver its audio to the AVR?" I've tried simply TV and internet applications, neither send audio back to the 671.

5) "Additionally, What equipment do you have and how is it connected?" This is a fairly simple setup. Television is Vizio XVT323SV, Reciever is Yamaha RXV671, BluRay is Sony BDP-S480, Satellite is Dish 211. The Vizio is connected to the RXV671 with a single HDMI 1.4 cable; it also has a OTA antenna connected directly. The RXV671 has one HDMI to the Sony BDP-S480 and one HDMI to the Dish 211. I also have the iPhone USB cable plugged into the front of the receiver, but it is not connected to my iphone at this time.

6) "Is your firmware version 1.13?" I will check. Yamaha told me there are no fw updates for this unit, so I expect I have the latest and only release. But, honestly I was not impressed with the technical skill level of the tech I spoke with and have serious doubts that he knows much about this issue.

While the two issues may be related (audio over HDMI), it would appear that a) the problem of audio being sent to the TV over HDMI, shutting down the receivers amp output might be more of a receiver issue and b) audio not being sent to the receiver from the TV might be more of a TV issue?

J
post #140 of 2142
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Originally Posted by zigzag666 View Post

I have been attempting to get ARC to work between my HDTV and the 671. It would appear that ARC is enabled on the TV and the 671, but I don't hear TV audio through the 671. Has anyone been able to get ARC to work? What input setting should be selected (or does it matter)? Does the ARC only work for HDMI sources or does TV audio feed back to the receiver as well?

Hi zigzag666, Vizio has some issue with ARC so make sure tv has the latest firmware.

A few things to check: on the Vizio - CEC & System Audio Control is set on and that it detected the receiver (under Device Discovery). on the receiver - enable ARC in the receiver under HDMI Setup. Use HDMI High Speed cable connected to tv HDMI-1 input.
post #141 of 2142
I picked up a 671 from Crutchfield last month and it worked for about a week before the protection circuit kicked off and would not recover. As they were backordered by that time I decided to go with an 867 for the exchange, which was just slightly cheaper than the 671 and fairly close in features. So far so good.
post #142 of 2142
I got around to streaming my MP3s from our pc all the way back to the rec room where the 671 is and it was flawless. It was the best I've heard my MP3s ever and the "enhancer" seemed to matter a bit.

On AT&T Uverse modem which is then sent to a Netgear switch then to the 671. No issues so far.

Is there any way to see what the actual sound decode is when playing movies with D.D, DTS-HD on the front panel besides just "Straight"? With my old Denon I got DTS or D.D 5.1. Not really big but seeing just "Straight" is odd.
post #143 of 2142
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Originally Posted by Brutus63 View Post

Just got a great deal for my v671 today ( with price matching and 5% additional discount at HHGREGG .... $379!!!!)

Where did you get them to price match? I was looking at the v867 today (Newegg: $479.99), but the v671 caught my eye... for our living room, I don't need the extras the v867 has (only room for one TV, no need for pre-amp, etc.).

Lowest I've found the v671 is $441 from OneCall (open box)...
post #144 of 2142
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Originally Posted by DR.DTS View Post

Is there any way to see what the actual sound decode is when playing movies with D.D, DTS-HD on the front panel besides just "Straight"? With my old Denon I got DTS or D.D 5.1. Not really big but seeing just "Straight" is odd.

Press the "info" button on your remote. Each time you press it the display item on the front display changes.
post #145 of 2142
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Originally Posted by zigzag666 View Post

Well I have some interesting results. When my TV is on, all audio from the 671 routes through the TV speakers. When the TV is turned off, the audio resumes from the 671. In neither case does the TV audio get back to the 671 via ARC.

If your television and AVR are on, with the television's input on its tuner, the audio from the tuner's programming should play through the television's speakers, the AVR's speakers, or possibly both, depending on your equipment and how you've set it up. Under those circumstances (television's input on tuner), when you turn the television off, it seems you should then get no sound from the television's speakers or the AVR's speakers because the source for audio has been eliminated by turning the television off. Indeed, if HDMI Control is enabled, with Standby Sync set to auto, turning the television off will also turn off your AVR. Your statement leads me to believe that you might not have set up and/or tested ARC properly.
post #146 of 2142
Received e-mail notice for firmware 1.13 update, other than rhapsody are there any other changes from v 1.02? Anyone experience issues?

Given my past history with updates from WD live, Live+ and boxee box introducing new bugs I'm reluctant to update without more feedback. Didn't see previous version on Yamaha site in case i would need to rollback.
post #147 of 2142
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Originally Posted by cbhpi View Post

Press the "info" button on your remote. Each time you press it the display item on the front display changes.

Thanks..I was hitting the button to quick and bypassed the DD/DTS part. I just feel better when I can actually see whats coming thru. I've made the mistake of hitting the wrong mode in the menu of the BR and this helps.
post #148 of 2142
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Originally Posted by eichmat View Post
Where did you get them to price match? I was looking at the v867 today (Newegg: $479.99), but the v671 caught my eye... for our living room, I don't need the extras the v867 has (only room for one TV, no need for pre-amp, etc.).

Lowest I've found the v671 is $441 from OneCall (open box)...

http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.asp?item=RXV671BL
Plus 10% additional discount
Happy shopping
Brutus
post #149 of 2142
Great--thanks... I saw the Saving Lots price, but they got a lousy review on resellerratings.com so I was going to avoid them. But, if I can use them to to price match, great.

One last question before I head out to HH Gregg: will the v671 work with my WD Live Hub?
post #150 of 2142
jchin/cbhpi:
Regarding ARC, the Vizio had already been updated to latest FW, however the 671 was not. Despite being told be Yamaha, there was no new FW available, there now is a firmware posted on their web. The release notes indicate a few improvements for WEB apps, but in appears there are quite a few other fixes in there. ARC now works properly. "System Audio" setting now works as I expect it would.

I did notice that the 671 must be turned on after the HDTV, or I lose the audio through the receiver.

I do not have receiver audio playing through the TV anymore either.

Thank you for the ideas, suggestions and support.
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