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post #1411 of 1962
the issues are not with the LG (Lg reports truehd as its playing) but with the toshiba hddvd, tried a coupkle things today, when hdmi cable is used between player and 671 PCM shows as decoder (with auto setting on decoder) when toslink is used between player and 671, dolby digital is displayed as decoder (with bitstream selected on player). on a side note i can run thru the audio options on a disc as they are playing without going to the disc menu using my harmony one and the best sound i get is when just the english setting is selected, over english dolby truehd, or the french or spanish options.
post #1412 of 1962
Just got this hooked up this weekend. I'm really happy with it so far.

However, I had an issue hooking up my laptop via HDMI. I used the HDMI v-aux port on the front to my laptop. I had laptop display set to external monitor only. The TV (LG LM7600) recognized the input immediately, and everything seemed ok, but after about 5 minutes, I started having refresh issues -- the screen would go blank for a couple seconds, then come back. After about 5 minutes of that happening, the screen went black and the TV gave me a "no input detected" error, and the display reset back to my laptop only, as if there was nothing outputting from the receiver.

I tried direct HDMI laptop > TV and it worked fine for 15 minutes with no issues (same HDMI cable). It seems to me that the issue is with the receiver, but I'm not sure where I would change settings for this problem. I had the laptop display output set to native 1080P, 60Hz refresh. I really want to be able to use the audio capabilities of the receiver with my laptop. Anyone else have an issue with this? I've seen similar issues in this thread, but no one with the exact problem, or a resolution.
post #1413 of 1962
Try using other HDMI ports on the receiver.

Sometimes HDMI stability is related to which HDMI input is used on a receiver, perhaps due to how the receiver's HDMI circuitry is laid out on the board. Often the HDMI input port closest to the output port is the most reliable.
post #1414 of 1962
I just got an RX-V671. I'm connecting a panasonic DMP-BDT321P blu-ray drive to HDMI1 and outputting to a Epson 3010 projector over a 40" hdmi cable. When I have it connected this way through the HDMI 1, The video signal keeps flashing on and off. The front panel also flashes as if it aquires the signal then looses it then repeats. It works fine connected straight to the blu-ray. But i think its dropping the HDCP handshake when passing through the reciever?

If i set the blu-rat to 1080i I cna get it semi stable
DVD's work
Blu-Rays work
...
Blu-ray 3d dosent work. still flashes.

If I set it to 1080P
Nothing works .

got it working smile.gif had to turn off deep color apparently the run length was to long for that much data.

Kall
Edited by kallx - 7/19/12 at 6:52am
post #1415 of 1962
How do you enable volume OSD? It used to do it, but when I adjust volume nothing appears on screen.
post #1416 of 1962
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Originally Posted by fatbottom View Post

How do you enable volume OSD? It used to do it, but when I adjust volume nothing appears on screen.

It's under Display Set -> Short Message. But the OSD seems to get corrupted from time to time and you have to unplug the receiver for a few seconds to fix it. So you might try that.
post #1417 of 1962
Hello all,

Definitely newb in this area (only had my 671 rigged up for a week or so) but I have genuinely spent hours scrutinising this, and other forums, for answers to the follow questions:-

1) Currently running a PS3 into hdmi 1 and a Xbox into hdmi 2. I'm sure that, until today, I could have both devices on and flip from hdmi 1 to hdmi 2 without the xbox rebooting, however today everytime I either flip hdmi connections, or turn off the receiver (sometime i need to have audio via tv only), the xbox is rebooting. Interesting this never happens to the PS3 in hdmi 1 socket. Have I changed a setting or something? It's not the end of my world but is a bit annoying, especially as I feel sure it didn't happen previously.


2) Is it possible to listen to music from my network (I have a home plug system working nicely from a nas drive) or internet radio whilst playing either PS3 or Xbox. Try as I might I cannot find a system to effectively have the video input from one HDMI device but override the audio with the "net" setting. Is this possible or am I asking too much?


All input will be gratefully received.

Cheers guys!
post #1418 of 1962
One way to get audio from one and video from another is to add additional connections from your input devices, either digital (coax or optical) or analog audio. When you switch the receiver from a source with video to a source which has no video associated with it (like CD), many receivers will continue to display video from the previously selected input. Whether this happens with HDMI on your Yamaha, I don't know.

Edited to add:
Sorry, I dunno what might be causing your xbox to reboot. You might check to make sure that the HDMI feature CEC (Consumer Electronics Control) is disabled in the receiver for all inputs and outputs.
post #1419 of 1962
Answering my own questions now!!

Turns out my applying one of these:-

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003Q958RW/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=103612307&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B000VUVCK6&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=1JC2D0P5KJMXTCTHG5M6

(a XBOX 360 HDMI AV CABLE+OPTICAL RCA ADAPTER) has caused my first problem - I bought this to improve the audio from the xbox (I changed the extended sound option from the 671 menu but am not convinced it's better than via hdmi - should it be?)


Haven't worked out an answer to my second question though, help would still be marvellous!


Thanks
post #1420 of 1962
Thanks Seldon, I have disabled the "simpllink" option on my LG TV but no joy re the xbox reboot issue, looking now to see if I can find any similar settings in the 671 settings.

Also tried the solution relating to video and sound but again no luck.

Appreciate your effort thouh - does anyone else have any clues?


Cheers
post #1421 of 1962
Please help me in setting up the following

AV Receiver - YAMAHA RX-V671

Speaker Front L&R

Monitor Audio Bronze B4 (6ohms)

Surround, L&R, Rear L&R

Monitor Audio Vector V10



Center - Monitor Audio Vector V20.


Sub woofer - Monitor Audio vector VW8



Its a 7.1 system.

Front speakers are 6 ohms

Rest of them are 8 ohms.

I am bit confused in mixing this.

1. is it okay to run the amp at its default settings of 8 0hm while front speakers are 6ohms.

2. How do I wire the two front speakers as I see a lot of configurations over the internet. ( The speaker box has two pairs of connectors, at the moment i ran 2 pairs of cable on to + and - post on the amp ( I think this is called bi-wire not sure)

Every help in this regard is highly appreciated.
post #1422 of 1962
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post #1423 of 1962
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Originally Posted by graylad View Post

Hello all,
Definitely newb in this area (only had my 671 rigged up for a week or so) but I have genuinely spent hours scrutinising this, and other forums, for answers to the follow questions:-
1) Currently running a PS3 into hdmi 1 and a Xbox into hdmi 2. I'm sure that, until today, I could have both devices on and flip from hdmi 1 to hdmi 2 without the xbox rebooting, however today everytime I either flip hdmi connections, or turn off the receiver (sometime i need to have audio via tv only), the xbox is rebooting. Interesting this never happens to the PS3 in hdmi 1 socket. Have I changed a setting or something? It's not the end of my world but is a bit annoying, especially as I feel sure it didn't happen previously.
2) Is it possible to listen to music from my network (I have a home plug system working nicely from a nas drive) or internet radio whilst playing either PS3 or Xbox. Try as I might I cannot find a system to effectively have the video input from one HDMI device but override the audio with the "net" setting. Is this possible or am I asking too much?
All input will be gratefully received.
Cheers guys!

I had one of those dongles. When I switched inputs, xbox rebooted itself. I think the xbox does that, if it detects no displays. I think it has also rebooted directly connecting to display without the dongle. Wheras the PS3 and other HDMI sources don't switch off.

I cannot find out how to listen to music, whilst having another source I don't think there is a way, unless you have a HDMI switcher after the Yamaha so those sources can still be used but switched (visually) on another switcher. If you use the Yamaha as hub as the system then can only view what you're listening to, not seperate watch and listen zones.

When I want to use streaming but use PC to browse, then I can't do it. However

That way will work, can listen to streaming from NAS and use computer. However if you want to play consoles and listen to music from streaming, it won't. You'll have to connect consoles to HDMI switcher. Yamaha is connected to HDMI switcher (out to in) then out from HDMI switcher to TV. So HDMI switcher is video switching, with Yamaha acting as audio switcher. Not really ideal since whole point of HDMI is for combined audio and video cables, plus not enough coaxial/optical to just be wasting HDMI as video only.
Edited by fatbottom - 7/27/12 at 4:36am
post #1424 of 1962
post #1425 of 1962
Cheers fb, really appreciate your effort on that!

Sounds like it might be a bit more haslle than it's worth to pursue, I can stream music stright into the xbox anyway but the folder system is awful to use (no filtering - drives me mad!), I don't think there is a way to reliably stream to the PS3 and play games at the same time, but I can live with that if necessary.

I couldn't be happier with the set up in general and the sound is awesome - I'm mostly just keen to utilise the 671 to it's full capability - nothing worse than having something like this and finding out after 3 years it can do something brilliant I didn't know about previously!


Cheers again.
post #1426 of 1962
is this worth $400 despite the lack of audyssey?
post #1427 of 1962
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Originally Posted by fiyastarting View Post

is this worth $400 despite the lack of audyssey?

Audyssey isn't the end all to room correction. Some like it others don't - works great for some rooms and systems, so so for others etc. I'm not stating that YPAO is the cats meow "by any means" either. :-).

I do however feel for the going price of the 671 (many less than $300) it's current performance is good regardless of room correction. Then again I tend to tweak after running room correction software etc.

Cheers
post #1428 of 1962
Sent my onkyo 616 back and my 671 should be delivered today, can't wait!!
post #1429 of 1962
"I cannot find out how to listen to music, whilst having another source I don't think there is a way"

Go to set up, scroll to input, select tuner or your music source, then select up for tools and select your video source. Now watch TV, DVD ect. while playing your tunes..
post #1430 of 1962
I have done some searching and cannot find an answer. Does the 671 have a built in graphic equalizer? My 467 does and I hope that they did not take that out of the 671.
post #1431 of 1962
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Does the 671 have a built in graphic equalizer? My 467 does and I hope that they did not take that out of the 671.

The manual EQ on the 671 is actually more flexible. Instead of the GEQ on the 467 you now have a PEQ (Parametric Equalizer). The difference being that (within limits) you can set the centre frequency and width of each filter, as well as the amount of cut/boost. The downside to this is it's more complex to use, although I think if you leave each filter at its default frequency and width (Q factor) it will be equivalent to the GEQ on the 467.
post #1432 of 1962
Quote:
Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

The manual EQ on the 671 is actually more flexible. Instead of the GEQ on the 467 you now have a PEQ (Parametric Equalizer). The difference being that (within limits) you can set the centre frequency and width of each filter, as well as the amount of cut/boost. The downside to this is it's more complex to use, although I think if you leave each filter at its default frequency and width (Q factor) it will be equivalent to the GEQ on the 467.
It's useless if you have to go back to college to figure out how to use it. I can also equalize every speaker individually on 467. Very helpful if you wat to set the center different ot have different kinds of speakers for front and back. Very disappointed this has been removed. I like to do my own setup instead of being a slave to computer settings.
post #1433 of 1962
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

It's useless if you have to go back to college to figure out how to use it. I can also equalize every speaker individually on 467. Very helpful if you wat to set the center different ot have different kinds of speakers for front and back. Very disappointed this has been removed. I like to do my own setup instead of being a slave to computer settings.

The capability has not been removed, but they could have added more explanation of the manual PEQ. If you don't touch the Q factor and frequency of each filter (just leave them at the defaults), then you should have something equivalent to the GEQ of the 467. You don't have to run YPAO to use the manual PEQ.
post #1434 of 1962
Okay, I'll admit that I have not yet read through all 48 pages of this thread, though I do plan to when I get the chance. I just bought the 671 last night, and will be hooking it up to a Bose Acoustimass 10. In advance, I fully understand that Bose is poop, etc... I'd really love not to have to hear about that part of it. I recently moved into a new house, and the Bose came with the house. I only had to buy the receiver. So, it will do for now.

Anyway, I'm not very Receiver savvy, so I could use some help with my initial setup. I have an LG PV450 (which I learned last night apparently does not support ARC), I have Directv, I have a PS3, and a Netgear N750 router. The house is also prewired for surround sound in the living room, and there are two speakers on the porch.


With my Directv box, should I connect it directly to the TV, and then use an optical cable to the 671? Or something else? No ARC support apparently, and honestly I don't know what HDMI Control means, so I don't know if my TV supports that or not.

When connecting the PS3, should I use only use HDMI to the receiver, or should I connect the PS3 to the TV and then use the optical cable that will already be there because of the Directv box?

As far as Zone 2, what exactly do I need to do to hook up the speakers that are on the porch? If I plug speaker wire into the "Presence" ports will that do it? Or, do I have to have some sort of analog connection with those speakers?


Any other, HEY DON'T FORGET TO DO THIS type tips?


Much appreciation for any answers, tips, advice.
post #1435 of 1962
Quote:
Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

The capability has not been removed, but they could have added more explanation of the manual PEQ. If you don't touch the Q factor and frequency of each filter (just leave them at the defaults), then you should have something equivalent to the GEQ of the 467. You don't have to run YPAO to use the manual PEQ.
Very cool. I got it. Thanks. I cannot seem to be able to set this up so that I can bi-amp my fronts and use the prescense speakers. I dont want back surround so I thought I would go 5.1 and bi-amp my fronts and use the prescence speakers just to kind of give it a wider sound. I think this would especially be nice for music. Am I missing something?
post #1436 of 1962
Okay, ridiculous question. I bought the Sewell Deadbolt Banana Plugs with Fast-Lock Technology to use with the 671. This is the first time I've used banana plugs, so I may very well not know what I'm doing. In any event, I've followed the instructions in the owners manual that simply says (1) tighten the speaker terminal and then (2) insert a banana plug into the terminal. Not sure how I can possibly screw that up, but I can't get these to fit in there. They seem to be too fat. I don't want to force it.

Those banana plugs got great reviews on Amazon, and I didn't see that they weren't compatible with many models.


Additionally, they also seem to be too big to go into my wall plate.


Am I completely stupid, or are they really not compatible with either the 671 or the wall plate?
post #1437 of 1962
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I cannot seem to be able to set this up so that I can bi-amp my fronts and use the prescense speakers. I dont want back surround so I thought I would go 5.1 and bi-amp my fronts and use the prescence speakers just to kind of give it a wider sound. I think this would especially be nice for music. Am I missing something?

5.1 + two presence speakers is already 7.1, which is all the 671 supports. It would need two more amps to bi-amp the fronts as well.

I've never tried bi-amping or presence speakers, but the concensus seems to be that bi-amping is not going to make a significant difference.
post #1438 of 1962
Also, there are no plastic inserts to pop out to make them fit. Is everyone else's 671 the same way? I really could use some help.
post #1439 of 1962
I'm an idiot, please disregard my last two posts. Just wasn't pushing them hard enough.
post #1440 of 1962
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Originally Posted by Bret191 View Post

"I cannot find out how to listen to music, whilst having another source I don't think there is a way"
Go to set up, scroll to input, select tuner or your music source, then select up for tools and select your video source. Now watch TV, DVD ect. while playing your tunes..


Is the correct answer, thanks buddy, turns an awesome thing into a work of art!
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