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post #1831 of 2142
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Pandora is free. You should try it.

Signed up with Pandora. It's working fine. Not bad but i'm not crazy about them throwing music in that has nothing to do with my playlist and I'm limited to 4 stations that I can create. Albeit, at least it's working. Thanks.
I still would like to get Sirius to work though.
Edited by phoenixone - 3/13/13 at 6:01pm
post #1832 of 2142
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Originally Posted by phoenixone View Post

Signed up with Pandora. It's working fine. Not bad but i'm not crazy about them throwing music in that has nothing to do with my playlist and I'm limited to 4 stations that I can create. Albeit, at least it's working. Thanks.
I still would like to get Sirius to work though.
I have about 25 stations. Are you sure about that limit? I didnt suggest it to replace Sirius. It is another option and now you know that the problem is with Sirius.
post #1833 of 2142
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I have about 25 stations. Are you sure about that limit? I didnt suggest it to replace Sirius. It is another option and now you know that the problem is with Sirius.

25? Ok, what the heck is going on with my Yami. It's like...it's possessed or something.
post #1834 of 2142
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Originally Posted by phoenixone View Post

25? Ok, what the heck is going on with my Yami. It's like...it's possessed or something.
Is it telling you that you cant create anymore? If so try doing it on your computer. They will carry over.
post #1835 of 2142
That's what I was doing. I first created them on my comp but only 4 would transfer over. Then I deleted 1 from the Yami list and it replaced it with 1 from my computer. *Scratches head*
post #1836 of 2142
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Originally Posted by phoenixone View Post

That's what I was doing. I first created them on my comp but only 4 would transfer over. Then I deleted 1 from the Yami list and it replaced it with 1 from my computer. *Scratches head*
What happens on the 671 if you try to create a station?
post #1837 of 2142
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

What happens on the 671 if you try to create a station?

Holy crap on a cracker. Yamaha's Pandora interface sucks. As soon as I created a station on the 671, ALL the stations I created on the PC showed up. Beyond wacky.....or my Yamaha is buggy. Either way, Thanks Bond 007 for your help. Sirius can now go kiss my a**.
post #1838 of 2142
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Originally Posted by phoenixone View Post

Holy crap on a cracker. Yamaha's Pandora interface sucks. As soon as I created a station on the 671, ALL the stations I created on the PC showed up. Beyond wacky.....or my Yamaha is buggy. Either way, Thanks Bond 007 for your help. Sirius can now go kiss my a**.
Glad it worked out for ya. smile.gif
post #1839 of 2142
Hello friends.
First I apologize for my bad English.
I come to ask the help of you, for I am with a model rx-v-671 without work for more than 1 year.
I bought the model and in less than 1 week I decided to do a firmware update, that's when all the problems appeared.
The rx-v671 died ...
Only the red button main zone is turned on ...
Already upgraded with several firmwares that I found, and no work.
Could someone help me?
post #1840 of 2142
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Originally Posted by italoserafin View Post

Hello friends.
First I apologize for my bad English.
I come to ask the help of you, for I am with a model rx-v-671 without work for more than 1 year.
I bought the model and in less than 1 week I decided to do a firmware update, that's when all the problems appeared.
The rx-v671 died ...
Only the red button main zone is turned on ...
Already upgraded with several firmwares that I found, and no work.
Could someone help me?
Have you contacted Yamaha?
post #1841 of 2142
anyone got IR discrete codes for the sound modes? Just interested the best ones,
post #1842 of 2142
Yes, I'm in Brazil, and went on an authorized yamaha here.
A rx-v671 costs here in Brazil, about USD 900.00 and authorized told me you have to change the plate and the repair would cost around USD 700.00. And I can not use the warranty because the product was purchased in the U.S..
I think a very high value for a repair, and I do not think you have to replace the whole board ...
Thanks....
post #1843 of 2142
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Originally Posted by italoserafin View Post

Yes, I'm in Brazil, and went on an authorized yamaha here.
A rx-v671 costs here in Brazil, about USD 900.00 and authorized told me you have to change the plate and the repair would cost around USD 700.00. And I can not use the warranty because the product was purchased in the U.S..
I think a very high value for a repair, and I do not think you have to replace the whole board ...
Thanks....

You can get a refurbished unit from Yamaha for $350 USD.

http://www.yamahashoponline.com/detail/YAM+RX-V671BL-R
post #1844 of 2142
OK i have a problem with my RX-X671. everytime i try to log in using the internet account i use every day on my ipad and desktops it says login failed. im in the process of doing an upgrade from firmware 1.18 to 1.39 but looking for some guidence.

Also im wondering if i want to start using hdmi, can i use an hdmi to component cable for my monitor out hdmi connection. I have a panasonic pro series plasma monitor with a component and also a composite sysem board in them. it pre dated HDMI. will the rx-v671 work this way or am i stuck with old school technology. when i try to use it, i get the audio , just no display.
post #1845 of 2142
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Originally Posted by rsudol View Post

OK i have a problem with my RX-X671. everytime i try to log in using the internet account i use every day on my ipad and desktops it says login failed. im in the process of doing an upgrade from firmware 1.18 to 1.39 but looking for some guidence.

Also im wondering if i want to start using hdmi, can i use an hdmi to component cable for my monitor out hdmi connection. I have a panasonic pro series plasma monitor with a component and also a composite sysem board in them. it pre dated HDMI. will the rx-v671 work this way or am i stuck with old school technology. when i try to use it, i get the audio , just no display.
Can you hardwire the 671 and upgrade via internet? Why do you have to log into any account at all? Can you go to the Yamaha website and download the update to a usb?
Edited by Bond 007 - 3/29/13 at 8:19pm
post #1846 of 2142
Do the firmware update over USB. That's what I did.

HDMI to component will not work.
post #1847 of 2142
Hi guys,

Been reading some about the adaptive DRC and confusion sets in. Some receivers don't seem to support DRC for DTS tracks, and it's only active for DD (AC3). Do you reckon this is the case with our receivers - I can't really tell, but generally find DRC lacking in performance. Could it be that it is being disabled for DTS, which happens to be the majority of content a put through it anyway.
post #1848 of 2142
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Originally Posted by triggerhippie View Post

...I can't really tell, but generally find DRC lacking in performance.

What are you expecting it to do? Unless you're trying to listen at low levels you want to turn Adaptive DRC OFF. Anything that reduces dynamic range is to be avoided otherwise.
post #1849 of 2142
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Originally Posted by triggerhippie View Post

Hi guys,

Been reading some about the adaptive DRC and confusion sets in. Some receivers don't seem to support DRC for DTS tracks, and it's only active for DD (AC3). Do you reckon this is the case with our receivers - I can't really tell, but generally find DRC lacking in performance. Could it be that it is being disabled for DTS, which happens to be the majority of content a put through it anyway.

You mention "lacking in performance". Just to be clear you are using DRC to "minimize" the dynamics of the soundtrack correct? I'm not being a smart arse, just want to ensure you realized that with DRC on, the performance of the receiver is going to be limited.

I myself have never used DRC (thus DRC is set to OFF). Not sure if it works for DD vs DTS etc. Without researching, I wouldn't think it would matter what the source was, DRC on would digitally manage/smooth out a soundtrack regardless.

Cheers
post #1850 of 2142
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

You mention "lacking in performance". Just to be clear you are using DRC to "minimize" the dynamics of the soundtrack correct? I'm not being a smart arse, just want to ensure you realized that with DRC on, the performance of the receiver is going to be limited.

Exactly - I expect DRC to trim the dB range, thus, allowing for midnight viewings smile.gif The whole question arises from a discussion in another forum where users seemingly prefer DolbyDigital sources as their receivers are unable to subject DTS to DRC.
post #1851 of 2142
I am not getting any sound from streaming movies with DTS. This has just started happening and did work perfectly. I have the input set to auto on the Yamaha receiver and tried DTS only but nothing works. When streaming directly to my Samsung TV I get sound through the TV speakers. I also swapped around HDMI cables and tried another HDMI input but so far no luck.
post #1852 of 2142
When stuck in a strange state, the first thing to try is power cycle by unplugging from the wall (the power button never really turns it off). It may not fix it, but it's always worth a try.
post #1853 of 2142
Hey, krik.
Can you briefly explain how the "extra bass" works? Specifically, with the fronts set to large, how does it affect the sub crossover?
Edited by Bond 007 - 4/3/13 at 6:38am
post #1854 of 2142
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Originally Posted by triggerhippie View Post

Hi guys,

Been reading some about the adaptive DRC and confusion sets in. Some receivers don't seem to support DRC for DTS tracks, and it's only active for DD (AC3). Do you reckon this is the case with our receivers - I can't really tell, but generally find DRC lacking in performance. Could it be that it is being disabled for DTS, which happens to be the majority of content a put through it anyway.
DRC is part of Dolby processing. Some processors have a "midnight mode" that can be used with DTS and PCM sources. It works the same, although not quite as well. But, DRC itself can only be applied to Dolby sources.
post #1855 of 2142
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Can you briefly explain how the "extra bass" works? Specifically, with the fronts set to large, how does it affect the sub crossover?

It only has an effect when you have a sub and also set your main speakers to Large (which is not normally recommended). In this case, without Extra Bass the crossover setting is ignored and the sub only plays dedicated LFE content (the .1 in 5.1), so the sub will not be used for normal stereo music (for example). If you turn on Extra Bass the sub will now play bass below the crossover frequency, even though the Large front speakers are also playing it.

If everybody followed the "if you have a sub then your main speakers are small" rule, there would be no need for the Extra bass setting. But some people feel insulted if you tell them to set their tower speakers to small, so they use Extra Bass to make sure their sub is used all the time.
post #1856 of 2142
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

It only has an effect when you have a sub and also set your main speakers to Large (which is not normally recommended). In this case, without Extra Bass the crossover setting is ignored and the sub only plays dedicated LFE content (the .1 in 5.1), so the sub will not be used for normal stereo music (for example). If you turn on Extra Bass the sub will now play bass below the crossover frequency, even though the Large front speakers are also playing it.

If everybody followed the "if you have a sub then your main speakers are small" rule, there would be no need for the Extra bass setting. But some people feel insulted if you tell them to set their tower speakers to small, so they use Extra Bass to make sure their sub is used all the time.
Thanks. That was pretty much my understanding. This is the way I set mine up.
For 5.1.......AVR crossover at 120, SUB crossover 120, fronts set to small, extra bass Off
For 2.0.......AVR crossover at 100, SUB crossover 100, fronts set to large, extra bass On
There are many reasons for this. Mostly due to the way that I have equalized my speakers. My front towers are supposed to go down to 35Hz. Make any sense?
post #1857 of 2142
The sub's own crossover should really always be set to the max (or disabled), because you don't want another low-pass filter on top of the AVR's.

One potential problem with setting the fronts to Large is that it's harder to tune the bass response for room modes. You can move the sub around in the room to find the best place for it (which can make a big difference), but you can't really move your fronts. This is a also good article to read: http://www.audyssey.com/blog/2009/05/small-vs-large

For 2.0 have you tried the front speakers as small but with a lower crossover (say 80Hz)? The fronts will still play some bass (even below the crossover, because it's not a hard cut off), but you'll have more headroom as it takes a load off the receiver.
post #1858 of 2142
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

The sub's own crossover should really always be set to the max (or disabled), because you don't want another low-pass filter on top of the AVR's.

One potential problem with setting the fronts to Large is that it's harder to tune the bass response for room modes. You can move the sub around in the room to find the best place for it (which can make a big difference), but you can't really move your fronts. This is a also good article to read: http://www.audyssey.com/blog/2009/05/small-vs-large

For 2.0 have you tried the front speakers as small but with a lower crossover (say 80Hz)? The fronts will still play some bass (even below the crossover, because it's not a hard cut off), but you'll have more headroom as it takes a load off the receiver.
I see your point about the sub crossover. I will probably just set the Klipsch RW-12d at 120 (LFE mode) and leave it. When I lower the AVR crossover that low, I get localization. If I leave it at 100 and fronts to large, by letting the fronts share more of the bass it eliminates the localization and seems to give me a smoother response. My fronts are pretty capable. As far as headroom though, I never listen at anywhere near reference level. I live in an apt.
I should also note that in the graphic eq I bump up the fronts +4 at 100Hz.
post #1859 of 2142
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I see your point about the sub crossover. I will probably just set the Klipsch RW-12d at 120 (LFE mode) and leave it. When I lower the AVR crossover that low, I get localization. If I leave it at 100 and fronts to large, by letting the fronts share more of the bass it eliminates the localization and seems to give me a smoother response. My fronts are pretty capable. As far as headroom though, I never listen at anywhere near reference level. I live in an apt.
I should also note that in the graphic eq I bump up the fronts +4 at 100Hz.

I always set the sub cross over max and let the avr handle everything. Im with you tho, I love my fronts set to large because of localization. However this all my change when the xs30 shows up cool.gif
post #1860 of 2142
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

I always set the sub cross over max and let the avr handle everything. Im with you tho, I love my fronts set to large because of localization. However this all my change when the xs30 shows up cool.gif
Yi. It can get complicated and depends on a lot of stuff but the universal "set the fronts to small" stuff is baloney as far as Im concerned. Its the easiest way but not always the best. That XS30 is going to be a major change to your setup. I wish I had your towers and sub. Your system is better than mine.
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