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post #931 of 2142
Hi I just plugged in Polk audio monitor 60 series ii floorstandings. YPAO is still recognizing them as small but I believe they should come up as large... any idea.
post #932 of 2142
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Originally Posted by snema View Post

Polk audio monitor 60 series ii floorstandings. YPAO is still recognizing them as small

The specs for those speakers indicate they only go down to 38Hz. That makes them "small" relative to the performance of your sub-woofer (which presumably goes an octave or so lower) so YPAO decided to send the bass to your sub instead of burdening the mains.

Change the setting to "large" if you wish but no bass from those channels will be sent to your sub unless you also select "extra bass". In that instance, the AVR will send low frequencies to BOTH your Polks and your sub.
post #933 of 2142
Hi,

I'm having an issue with the use of presence speakers + zone 2 in 7 channel stereo on my rx-v771. I don't use my presence speakers for surround sound, these are actually in-ceiling mounted in another part of the house. I also have my zone 2 set up outdoors.

The issue that I'm having is that when I'm listening to music in 7 channel stereo mode throughout the house (5 speakers in living room plus the 2 presence speakers) all 7 speakers work fine.

But, as soon as I activate the zone 2 (outdoor) I lose my presence speakers. The living room 5 keep playing but they presence speakers just stop playing anything.

Any idea what's going on here?
post #934 of 2142
Thread Starter 
You only have 7 amplifier channels! You can only use rear-surround, presence or zone 2 at any given time - pick one.
post #935 of 2142
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Originally Posted by cbhpi View Post

Can you rephrase your description of your problem and possibly add more detail concerning CEC/HDMI Control settings and source of HD programming (television tuner, cable, sat)? Also, it would be good to know in advance if you're using a programmable (Harmony type) remote.

Hi

The HD programming comes from the TV's inbuilt tuner along with the rest of the freeview.

I am using the standard remote that comes with the TV and the Receiver.

Im not sure what you mean by the HDMI control settings, would you be able to let me know what else you need to know and I will supply the information.

For example: You can have the Yamaha Receiver completely off and put the TV onto BBC HD for instance - it will work perfectly (Obviously you would have to use the audio direct from the TV)
As soon as you turn the Yamaha Receiver on the picture will break up, it will lose audio completely and then the screen will go black stating that no broadcast is being received. - Turn the Receiver back off again and the picture/audio will go back to being perfect again.

This example will happen most of the time, very occasionally HD will work with the Yamaha which makes it strange. 99% of the time it wont though.

Anyones help greatly appreciated for this annoying problem.
post #936 of 2142
I was going to roll back firmware to try and fix my issue, but i realized the old firmware versions are not available for download anymore.

Does anyone have the old files? will the receiver let you load an older version?
post #937 of 2142
Quote:
Originally Posted by cavu View Post

The specs for those speakers indicate they only go down to 38Hz. That makes them "small" relative to the performance of your sub-woofer (which presumably goes an octave or so lower) so YPAO decided to send the bass to your sub instead of burdening the mains.

Change the setting to "large" if you wish but no bass from those channels will be sent to your sub unless you also select "extra bass". In that instance, the AVR will send low frequencies to BOTH your Polks and your sub.

I was told to invoke that setting to help break in a pair of towers, so that the tower's woofs get a chance to work out during break-in. He referred to it as double bass, which is Audessey's terminology.
post #938 of 2142
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Originally Posted by cavu View Post

Don't worry about it. "Biamping/biwiring" speakers with passive crossovers isn't worth the bytes required to comment on it!! Plaebo effect for the ignorant.

I did that just because. (once read about it, had the extra wire, had speakers that supported it). Is having bi-wired/bi-amped a liability that I should remove and reconnect the regular way? Or the fact that it's done I should just leave it alone with no ill effect on sound?
post #939 of 2142
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Originally Posted by emmaur1 View Post

Hi

The HD programming comes from the TV's inbuilt tuner along with the rest of the freeview.

I am using the standard remote that comes with the TV and the Receiver.

Im not sure what you mean by the HDMI control settings, would you be able to let me know what else you need to know and I will supply the information.

For example: You can have the Yamaha Receiver completely off and put the TV onto BBC HD for instance - it will work perfectly (Obviously you would have to use the audio direct from the TV)
As soon as you turn the Yamaha Receiver on the picture will break up, it will lose audio completely and then the screen will go black stating that no broadcast is being received. - Turn the Receiver back off again and the picture/audio will go back to being perfect again.

This example will happen most of the time, very occasionally HD will work with the Yamaha which makes it strange. 99% of the time it wont though.

Anyones help greatly appreciated for this annoying problem.

With the information supplied, my best guess at this time is that you are using the tv "scene" button to power up the AVR, which is causing the AVR to switch to an input into which nothing is connected. Use the main power button to power up the AVR when using the television's internal tuner.
post #940 of 2142
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by FieldingMelish View Post

break in a pair of towers

Another utter waste of time. Falls into the category of cable lifters, magic wire, et al.
post #941 of 2142
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FieldingMelish View Post

Is having bi-wired/bi-amped a liability that I should remove and reconnect the regular way?

Its not going to do anything but it won't do any harm either. Leave it alone until you want to do something useful with the wire.
post #942 of 2142
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbhpi View Post

With the information supplied, my best guess at this time is that you are using the tv "scene" button to power up the AVR, which is causing the AVR to switch to an input into which nothing is connected. Use the main power button to power up the AVR when using the television's internal tuner.

I always use the power button to power up the AVR and then switch to the TV Scene afterwards in order to get sound. Sometimes it will work all night but most often it just doesnt like HD, I cant understand why the channel being HD would make a difference. Any ideas anyone?
post #943 of 2142
Ever since around the time I played some music off a USB stick this afternoon my subwoofer has not been getting input from the receiver set to 2ch Stereo, I can only get a signal to it set to 7ch Stereo. I think I must have inadvertently ticked something that set it off but I've gone though the manual & settings & can't seem to find anything. I was terribly afraid something was wrong with the subwoofer but since it looked ok after running YPAO & plays fine set to 7ch Stereo I don't think there's an issue on that end, I've been pulling my hair out & I'm fresh out of ideas.
post #944 of 2142
Thread Starter 
The only way of getting the sub to work on 2-channel stereo sources is to set the main L/R speakers to "Small" or set them to "large" and turn on "extra bass" to force low frequencies to go to both the mainsand the sub.
post #945 of 2142
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Originally Posted by cavu View Post

The only way of getting the sub to work on 2-channel stereo sources is to set the main L/R speakers to "Small" or set them to "large" and turn on "extra bass" to force low frequencies to go to both the mainsand the sub.

Yeah, I read this in the manual but I've had the sub a week working, had the two front set to large & to my knowledge the extra bass setting was off (I assume thats the default, when I checked it was off & I didn't change that setting prior), the Jamo C603 speakers have really good bass range to my ears so perhaps I'll live with it this way (sans the extra bass setting) for music listening, but its strange that it was working before & not now.
post #946 of 2142
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Blackbeen View Post

Yeah, I read this in the manual but ....

What's your point?

I gave you the correct advice you've confirmed it by RTFM ... "BUT ..." ???

Set it that way - it wll work. Don't set it that way - it won't.

Am I supposed to guess whether your memory is failing or whether you imagined something? That's beyond my pay grade.
post #947 of 2142
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Originally Posted by cavu View Post

What's your point?

Set it that way - it wll work. Don't set it that way - it won't.

Am I supposed to guess whether your memory is failing or whether you imagined something? That's beyond my pay grade.

The point is that it WAS working the other way w/o extra bass, which to me sounds overly FAT compared to how it sounded prior, is that any reason to make rude personal insults, I think not.
post #948 of 2142
Thread Starter 
The point is that the sub can't have worked w/mains=Large and extra bass=Off with a 2-channel source. Period.

I'm looking for "rude personal insults" in my last post but cannot find any.
post #949 of 2142
Thread Starter 
PS. I can only surmise that you had mains=Small if you are certain that extrabass was never ON.
post #950 of 2142
Quote:
Originally Posted by cavu View Post

PS. I can only surmise that you had mains=Small if you are certain that extrabass was never ON.

The main speakers have NEVER been set to small & I have never touched the extra bass setting (I honestly wasn't even aware of it prior to troubleshooting this problem). When I got the VTF-1 subwoofer last week I placed it, ran YPAO & was done, didn't touch any other settings. I did run YPAO again yesterday, as I did a number of times during the last week actually as I have changed my speaker placement a few times. The only possible explanation I can see is that on the last run of YPAO turned extra bass from on to off but if it did this why didn't it do likewise on the half dozen+ runs in the last week? It just doesn't make sense.
post #951 of 2142
Thread Starter 
YPAO does *not* fiddle with "extra bass"! Ever.

YPAO *does* usually default to mains=Small when it detects a sub!
post #952 of 2142
Quote:
Originally Posted by cavu View Post


YPAO *does* usually default to mains=Small when it detects a sub!

The only variance I have had with speaker size in this setup running YPAO has been falsely detecting the small rear speakers as large due to the mic being off center I believe, but the front main have always been detected as large of this I am certain.
post #953 of 2142
Thread Starter 
Well then ... you have a conundrum!
post #954 of 2142
Hello all. This is a really nice unit, but for some reason Pandora isn't working on it. Internet radio works fine. I have it hooked into a powerline connection which works really well. I could not find anything anywhere in the manual about Pandora, so apparently there really shouldn't be anything special to get it to work.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

AJ
post #955 of 2142
Hi Guys,
Do you know if (and how) you can adjust bass/treble for zone 2?
For the life of me I have not been able to work out how to do it.

Thanks,
post #956 of 2142
There does not appear to be a way to adjust the Tone of Zone 2 speakers connected to the internal amplifier. If you want Tone Control of Zone 2 you will need to connect to Zone 2 with a separate amplifier instead of the internal one.
post #957 of 2142
Quote:
Originally Posted by goofy646 View Post

Hello all. This is a really nice unit, but for some reason Pandora isn't working on it. Internet radio works fine. I have it hooked into a powerline connection which works really well. I could not find anything anywhere in the manual about Pandora, so apparently there really shouldn't be anything special to get it to work.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

AJ

Keep hitting the net button on the remote until Pandora comes up.
What do you mean it is not working, does Pandora come up on the TV and does it ask you for an email and password.
Have you set up a Pandora account using a computer.
Old Mike
post #958 of 2142
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Originally Posted by mf15 View Post

Keep hitting the net button on the remote until Pandora comes up.
What do you mean it is not working, does Pandora come up on the TV and does it ask you for an email and password.
Have you set up a Pandora account using a computer.
Old Mike

Thanks for the response but I did get it sorted out. I wasn't aware you needed an account and it had to be set up using the display and not the browser.
Funny how this seems nowhere to be found in the manual doing a search for "pandora".

Anyhow, thanks again.
post #959 of 2142
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Originally Posted by cavu View Post

Another utter waste of time. Falls into the category of cable lifters, magic wire, et al.

I'm getting rid of my cable lifter and magic wire, lol! ... and I'll stop breaking speakers in.
post #960 of 2142
Hi
I'm going to buy an AVR and am writing to see if anyone uses the "remote in" jack and an IR signal receiver (page 70 in the manual) to control their V671?

I have my PS3 and and cable box in a closet behind the TV with a pass-through for the HDMI cable and an IR signal receiver for the cable box.
I hope to use an extra IR receiver I have (3.5mm stereo plug, works with cable box)and put the AVR in the same closet as the PS3 and cable box and have it controllable with the remote.

If anyone uses the "remote in" jack and could tell me the type/brand of signal receiver they use and if all of the functions on the remote control work with that set-up, I'd appreciate it. TIA
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